---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/16/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:20 AM - Doug, anyone, 400hp engines please... (Drew) 2. 09:32 AM - Re: Doug, anyone, 400hp engines please... (Ernest Martinez) 3. 09:54 AM - Re: Northeast Spring Formation Clinic (Mozam) 4. 02:34 PM - how much (Terry Lewis) 5. 03:16 PM - Re: Yak 52 or CJ6? (Forrest Johnson) 6. 03:56 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 03/15/08 (Jerry Painter) 7. 07:34 PM - OSH 2008 (cjpilot710@AOL.COM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:37 AM PST US From: Drew Subject: Yak-List: Doug, anyone, 400hp engines please... As a previous owner of 2 M14s, I just spent 2 days with folks 1v1 with my Hoosai. This may have been in a past Yak discussion I missed, but with M14P prices so high and stock dwindling (red alert article), is there no future, or any new/possible developments for a chinese supplier of higher bang Hoosai's priced to take the market by storm ;) Sounds crazy, Chinese coming in with an as good/better product at lower cost, but thought I would ask...this one's not going to last forever, and I know DVT is well on their way to giving these motors a power-lift... Hmm, seems if the reason were about to pay $4.00 a gallon for 87 octane and $6.50 for avgas is because the Chinese nation is massively expanding their industrial base, urbanizing and drinking all the oil they can buy, hey, the least they could do was send us American "Nanchang" pilots (and yaks too) a competitive source of beefed up engines at fair prices so we can show off their handywork here in the states come on - show some love Premier Wen Jiabao! (somebody, Doug, please fax this to his office, thanks) Also, any update on the success of the metal 3 blade (performance results/controllability) - I hear it was down in AZ?? You can also reach me at lacloudchaser@gmail.com --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:26 AM PST US From: "Ernest Martinez" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Doug, anyone, 400hp engines please... I've got a brand new housai for sale along with a new prop, if you're interested. Ernie On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Drew wrote: > > As a previous owner of 2 M14s, I just spent 2 days with folks 1v1 with my > Hoosai. > > This may have been in a past Yak discussion I missed, but with M14P prices > so high and stock dwindling (red alert article), is there no future, or any > new/possible developments for a chinese supplier of higher bang Hoosai's > priced to take the market by storm ;) > > Sounds crazy, Chinese coming in with an as good/better product at lower > cost, but thought I would ask...this one's not going to last forever, and I > know DVT is well on their way to giving these motors a power-lift... > > Hmm, seems if the reason were about to pay $4.00 a gallon for 87 octane and > $6.50 for avgas is because the Chinese nation is massively expanding their > industrial base, urbanizing and drinking all the oil they can buy, hey, the > least they could do was send us American "Nanchang" pilots (and yaks too) a > competitive source of beefed up engines at fair prices so we can show off > their handywork here in the states > > come on - show some love Premier Wen Jiabao! (somebody, Doug, please fax > this to his office, thanks) > > Also, any update on the success of the metal 3 blade (performance > results/controllability) - I hear it was down in AZ?? > > > You can also reach me at lacloudchaser@gmail.com > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:22 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Northeast Spring Formation Clinic From: "Mozam" I am reposting this (with some new info) as a reminder to you all about the NE Spring Clinic: Hey guys, Many of us in the Northeast dont make it to Sun & Fun every year due to the 600+ mile ride each way. So, this year were having a Spring Clinic of our own. All you guys in the Carolinas, Tennessee, Georgia, etc., COME ON UP! I have responses from more than 20 planes flying in so far! The bigger, the better! So far, there are at least six RPA Instructors and Check Pilots attending who will be available for anyone needing FAST training (Wing or Lead). However, the primary focus of this clinic will be on developing sound Flight Lead fundamentals. RPA IPs, Check Pilots and experienced Leads will be flying in your flights (or back seat) and offering techniques, tips, and suggestions (not found anywhere in manuals) to make you a better Lead. The goal is NOT increasing the quantity of Leads, but rather, the quality. While the training emphasis will geared toward the Leads, ALL newbies and wingmen are welcome. Obviously the Leads need someone to lead! ANYONE WANTING FORMATION TRAINING (wing or Lead) IS WELCOME. The Spring Clinic will be at Easton, MD (KESN) located on the scenic eastern shore of Chesapeake Bay. KESN is NOT in the ADIZ, nor do you have to go through it to get there (unless you start out in the ADIZ). The dates are May 2-4. Thursday afternoon arrivals are encouraged because everything begins Friday morning. KESN has two 100 wide runways and a new control tower (non-FAA) staffed with almost all prior military controllers who love Yaks and 4-ships on initial for the overhead. They will be riding with us and joining us for after hours entertainment, which will include a party Saturday night at a great private location on the water. The Airport Manager is excited about having us and has waived all overnight tie down fees (please dont divulge this to any non-RPA plane owners), there is a good restaurant on the airport, and the FBO will provide a discount on all fuel. Jim Meadows has personally inspected and secured a discounted rate ($90) for us at the Comfort Inn only two miles from the airport. It is a clean newer hotel with a Dennys next door. Call ASAP to get the discounted RedStar rate. (410-820-8333). This is a tourist area and rooms fill up fast. Jim and I will provide a Suburban and an SUV for attendees use, which along with driving our other cars should negate the need for anyone to have to rent a car. If anyone wants a car the FBO will have them available at a good rate. While we fly, my wife (the Indian Princess) will provide an Eastern Shore shopping experience for any spouses attending (guard your credit cards!). If you havent already done so, please let me know ASAP if you plan to attend. I need an estimate of the numbers for planning purposes. And keep your fingers crossed for good weather! Mr. Emperor's Club himself, Charlie Lynch (Client #1), has graciously accepted responsibility for any virginal sacrifices required for good weather. [Twisted Evil] -Steve Dalton (Mozam) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170175#170175 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:34:08 PM PST US From: "Terry Lewis" Subject: Yak-List: how much Ernie, How much for the engine, Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Martinez" Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Doug, anyone, 400hp engines please... > > I've got a brand new housai for sale along with a new prop, if you're > interested. > > Ernie > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Drew wrote: >> >> As a previous owner of 2 M14s, I just spent 2 days with folks 1v1 with my >> Hoosai. >> >> This may have been in a past Yak discussion I missed, but with M14P >> prices >> so high and stock dwindling (red alert article), is there no future, or >> any >> new/possible developments for a chinese supplier of higher bang Hoosai's >> priced to take the market by storm ;) >> >> Sounds crazy, Chinese coming in with an as good/better product at lower >> cost, but thought I would ask...this one's not going to last forever, and >> I >> know DVT is well on their way to giving these motors a power-lift... >> >> Hmm, seems if the reason were about to pay $4.00 a gallon for 87 octane >> and >> $6.50 for avgas is because the Chinese nation is massively expanding >> their >> industrial base, urbanizing and drinking all the oil they can buy, hey, >> the >> least they could do was send us American "Nanchang" pilots (and yaks too) >> a >> competitive source of beefed up engines at fair prices so we can show off >> their handywork here in the states >> >> come on - show some love Premier Wen Jiabao! (somebody, Doug, please fax >> this to his office, thanks) >> >> Also, any update on the success of the metal 3 blade (performance >> results/controllability) - I hear it was down in AZ?? >> >> >> >> You can also reach me at lacloudchaser@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:16:56 PM PST US From: "Forrest Johnson" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 or CJ6? I have owned a CJ for 9 years and love the airplane. I considered the 52 but after flying both cross country, 2-3 hrs. the CJ is much more comfortable. It will do all the aerobatics that the avarage pilot will ever want to do.I do a lot of formation flying and the CJ is much more stable do to the longer dihedrel wing. The CJ with the stock 285 engine will out perform the 52 in every aspect except roll rate , initial climb rate. The CJ is about 20 kts. faster than the 52. In cruise with a 52 at about 120 kts the CJ will burn about 13 gph. vs 16 to 17 for the 52. I just purchased my second CJ with the 360 hp motor which makes the aairplane a different beast. It will out climb the 52 by 500 fpm. cruise 35- 40 kts faster at the same power setting. The CJ will cost on the avarage about 15 to 20k more than a comprable 52. I am going to put my original CJ on the market for 80k well equipped. If you are interested give me a call cell 817 366 3150 or Email flushjohnson@charter.net. Thanks Forrest Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "jon" Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 or CJ6? > > Hello, Im very interested in purchasing a Yak or CJ. I have joined Redstar > and just found this forum. My question is what are somethings > to watch for in a purchase and what dealers have a good reputation. > Are CJ parts harder to find than the Yak? I am sure this has been asked > before so Thank You in advance. > John, > Wisconsin > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169924#169924 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:35 PM PST US From: "Jerry Painter" Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 03/15/08 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:15 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@AOL.COM Subject: Yak-List: OSH 2008 Troops, Just a reminder. You need to not only register on the RPA web sit for the dorm room at the University BUT you need to call the University itself. Here is the contact stuff for reservations. Phone UW: (920)-424-3226 or (920)-424-0388 and even _uwoeaa@mio.uwosh.edu _ (mailto:uwoeaa@mio.uwosh.edu) . They will accept all credit cards except Discover Card. Make sure you tell them you=99re with the RPA. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby **************It's Tax Time! 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