---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/03/08: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:37 AM - Re: cylinder baffle rubber strips (A. Dennis Savarese) 2. 04:49 AM - Re: cylinder baffle rubber strips (netmaster15@juno.com) 3. 08:09 AM - non-russian radio problems (Jorgen Nielsen) 4. 08:35 AM - Re: non-russian radio problems (Kregg Victory) 5. 08:39 AM - Re: cylinder baffle rubber strips (doug sapp) 6. 08:52 AM - Re: non-russian radio problems (Brian Lloyd) 7. 10:34 AM - Re: Northeast Spring Formation Clinic (Mozam) 8. 01:35 PM - Red Alert back issues (John Graham) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:12 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: cylinder baffle rubber strips Jon, Contact Doug Sapp. I believe Doug stocks the cylinder baffle rubber/leather strips. That's really the best solution. Replace with new, identical parts. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Boede To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:38 AM Subject: Yak-List: cylinder baffle rubber strips I have noticed that the paper-wrapped rubber strips at the top of my cylinder baffles are... well, slowing turning to cr@p. So, before I engineer my own not-so-clever solution to replacing them, I thought I'd ask here if anybody had some ideas. The rubber strips are about 1" wide, 1/4" thick and like 6 or 7" long. They're usually in a little metal "tray" held in by rivets. Not only are my strips slowly disintegrating but some of the trays are suffering pretty badly, too (becoming detached from the baffles). I was thinking to remove the trays entirely and cement rubber replacements right to the top of the baffles. But I don't know enough about "rubber" to know what to use that will take the head, slime and vibration. Or how to attach new strips in a mostly-permanent fashion. Suggestions? Thanks, Jon ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:57 AM PST US From: "netmaster15@juno.com" Subject: Re: Yak-List: cylinder baffle rubber strips JON, try a piece of cowling anti-chafe stripping; you can cut it to an y length you choose and it''s tough enough to rivet if necessary. Cliff Umscheid -- Jon Boede wrote: I have noticed that the paper-wrapped rubber strips at the top of my cyl inder baffles are... well, slowing turning to cr@p. So, before I engineer my own not-so-clever solution to replacing them, I thought I'd ask here if anybody had some ideas. The rubber strips are about 1" wide, 1/4" thick and like 6 or 7" long. They're usually in a little metal "tray" held in by rivets. Not only are my strips slowly disintegrating but some of the trays are s uffering pretty badly, too (becoming detached from the baffles). I was thinking to remove the trays entirely and cement rubber replacemen ts right to the top of the baffles. But I don't know enough about "rubber" to know what to use that will tak e the head, slime and vibration. Or how to attach new strips in a mostl y-permanent fashion. Suggestions? Thanks, Jon ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== = _____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on how to reduce your debt by filing for bankruptcy. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/REAK6aAYJL2XONp9tvIR5sEhCZ7U vivUNUrBHaSaJ0C4xgX1ibcN8f/ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:10 AM PST US From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: Yak-List: non-russian radio problems Before I bought my Yak the previous owner had removed the original radio and installed a King KY97. This worked OK with built in intercom but never as well as the original. I fly a friends original Yak and it works much better. Then I started having intermittent problems with it - intercom not working, and sometimes failure to transmit. Also would not work when under negative g. Pressing the intercom button would usually cause it to function again, a couple times I had to recycle power. Then it finally stopped working almost completely. But it would always work on the ground without the engine running. Had the wiring looked at, then succumbed and bought a new Icom A210, with the thought that the dual watch feature would be great for formo. Installed it (tray compatible, tested on ground all worked perfect. Intercom sounded better. In a happy state pulled out the aircraft to go fly, started the engine.and.you guessed it, radio stops working with the exact same symptoms as before as with the King! I said a few choice words! So, the fault appears to be not the radio but something, somewhere in the install. Any ideas? I am at a loss to think what could cause it - the power seems fine (display illuminated solidly). Could a wire rubbing through to say a jack or PTT cause such a fault? Jorgen ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:39 AM PST US From: "Kregg Victory" Subject: RE: Yak-List: non-russian radio problems Jorgen, When the radio doesn't transmit, Do the intercom still work? Does the "xmit" indicator light on the radio come on? Therefore giving you carrier only with no voice? If so you probably have a intermittent ground in the mic circuit. If the radio doesn't light up the "xmit" indicator on the A210 then it is most likely in the PTT switch or the connections of the back of the switch. Sometimes if you look closely at the wiring from the PTT switch down through the throttle handle and even further down where the wiring makes the bend in the area of the throttle/prop cables you may find some chafing in that area. You can spend a lot of time with this type of problem. Another way to eliminate the PTT circuit is to make a temporary ptt switch that bypasses every thing and connects to the back of the radio, go fly as see the results.. Hope this helps, Kregg _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jorgen Nielsen Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:05 AM Subject: Yak-List: non-russian radio problems Before I bought my Yak the previous owner had removed the original radio and installed a King KY97. This worked OK with built in intercom but never as well as the original. I fly a friends original Yak and it works much better. Then I started having intermittent problems with it - intercom not working, and sometimes failure to transmit. Also would not work when under negative g. Pressing the intercom button would usually cause it to function again, a couple times I had to recycle power. Then it finally stopped working almost completely. But it would always work on the ground without the engine running. Had the wiring looked at, then succumbed and bought a new Icom A210, with the thought that the dual watch feature would be great for formo. Installed it (tray compatible, tested on ground all worked perfect. Intercom sounded better. In a happy state pulled out the aircraft to go fly, started the engine.and.you guessed it, radio stops working with the exact same symptoms as before as with the King! I said a few choice words! So, the fault appears to be not the radio but something, somewhere in the install. Any ideas? I am at a loss to think what could cause it - the power seems fine (display illuminated solidly). Could a wire rubbing through to say a jack or PTT cause such a fault? Jorgen ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:48 AM PST US From: "doug sapp" Subject: Re: Yak-List: cylinder baffle rubber strips how bout calling Doug? ;o) I have them in stock. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Jon Boede wrote: > I have noticed that the paper-wrapped rubber strips at the top of my > cylinder baffles are... well, slowing turning to cr@p. > > So, before I engineer my own not-so-clever solution to replacing them, I > thought I'd ask here if anybody had some ideas. > > The rubber strips are about 1" wide, 1/4" thick and like 6 or 7" long. > They're usually in a little metal "tray" held in by rivets. > > Not only are my strips slowly disintegrating but some of the trays are > suffering pretty badly, too (becoming detached from the baffles). > > I was thinking to remove the trays entirely and cement rubber replacements > right to the top of the baffles. > > But I don't know enough about "rubber" to know what to use that will take > the head, slime and vibration. Or how to attach new strips in a > mostly-permanent fashion. > > Suggestions? > > Thanks, > Jon > > * > > * > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:57 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: non-russian radio problems > I said a few choice words! So, the fault appears to be not the > radio but something, somewhere in the install. > > Any ideas? I am at a loss to think what could cause it the power > seems fine (display illuminated solidly). Could a wire rubbing > through to say a jack or PTT cause such a fault? Yes. Isolate (insulate) the mic jack from ground and then give it its own common return lead to the radio. Headphone jacks may be grounded to the airframe. Make sure you have good wiring up to the intercom and radio PTT buttons on the throttles. FWIW, I have never found a built-in intercom that works worth a darn. Best to get a first-class intercom and then mate that with the radio. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:42 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Northeast Spring Formation Clinic From: "Mozam" Guys, Were less than a month away from our spring clinic (May 2-4). Heres an update on the latest news: So far there are 22 planes attending. If you havent already done so, please let me know if youre attending. We will have at least SEVEN Instructors and Check Pilots at the clinic. There is also a good chance we will have both our RPA President (Darrell Condor Gary) and VP (Dave Talon McGirt) flying with us! Come meet the Grand Poo-Bahs in person. All these IPs and CPs will be there to work with all current and future Flight Leads. The goal is to grow our NE culture of excellence with our Lead pilots. Anyone needing Wing training is also welcome. If you havent already done so, CALL THE COMFORT INN (410-820-8333) ASAP to make a reservation. Ask for the RedStar discount. This is a tourist area and rooms fill up FAST in the spring! I just had a meeting up in the control tower with the Airport Manager, Tower Chief and other controllers. They are all very excited about our event. I explained to the tower guys how we operate (formation take offs, and overheads to land) and they will be giving us priority in the pattern over the spam cans. We also worked out a parking plan that you will like (very convenient). I anticipate the event fee to be $75-$100 per person for the weekend. This pays for dinner and beer on both Friday and Saturday night, refreshments during the day, and to cover some minor facility costs (like a couple dry-erase boards and other stuff). Dinner Friday night will be in a big corporate hanger at the airport. It will be a catered meal by a very popular local chef who will be grilling our meal in front of the hanger. He will also cater our dinner Saturday night (which will include local favorite dishesreally GOOD stuff). Well also have plenty of beer on hand. A very FUN event is planned for Saturday night entertainment. Dont miss it! We will have two FBOs providing fuel (at discounted prices), so refueling should be fairly rapid and not delay us. They will have Phillips 25w60 on hand, so dont worry about dragging it with you. I dont think anyone will need to rent a car, but if you want one the FBO will have them available (at a good rate). We will be getting both local print and TV media coverage. Heres your chance to star on TV. Harry, dont get any ideas! The tower controllers and airport manager want to fly with us and I anticipate several media rides as well. Id like to ask each of you to all plan on giving one ride to these folks while youre here. Spare chutes and headsets will be greatly appreciated. There will be a Mass Formation event on Saturday afternoon. This will be our big media event for the weekend. Ski is coming from TX and will present a clinic on the proper way to clean your Yak/CJ. This clinic will run from sunup to sundown on Friday. CALL THE HOTEL ASAP!!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174606#174606 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:35:27 PM PST US From: John Graham Subject: Yak-List: Red Alert back issues If anyone has back issues of the RPA's Red Alert magazine (2007 and prior) and would consider selling them, please contact me off line. Thanks! John P. 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