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1. 05:13 AM - Re: The Cj, the Isotopes and US costum... (skidmk)
2. 06:55 AM - Re: RPA e-communications (cjpilot710@aol.com)
3. 07:19 AM - Re: RPA e-communications (Craig Winkelmann, CFI)
4. 07:49 AM - Re: Hangar Floors (Forrest Johnson)
5. 08:01 AM - Re: Re: Yak52 Cowling Shutter axle/pivot Screws (Kregg Victory)
6. 08:06 AM - air leaks (CZ)
7. 08:36 AM - Re: air leaks (Peter K. Van Staagen)
8. 09:05 AM - New Yak-18Ts (Richard Goode)
9. 01:57 PM - Re: New Yak-18Ts (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
10. 02:23 PM - Re: M14P & M14PF engines (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
11. 03:48 PM - Re: Oshkosh Yak List (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
12. 06:46 PM - Snakes (jon blake)
13. 07:14 PM - Re: M14P & M14PF engines (Walter Lannon)
14. 10:30 PM - Re: New Yak-18Ts (Jan Mevis)
15. 11:43 PM - Re: New Yak-18Ts (Hans Oortman)
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| Subject: | Re: The Cj, the Isotopes and US costum... |
[quote="cjpilot710(at)aol.com"]In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:46:53 A.M. Eastern
Daylight Time, fougapilot@hotmail.com writes:
Nothing personal understand, but Canada is the easiest place for terrorist to
get into the US.
1. You have a very large Moslem population they can easily hid in and your immigration
policies easy.
2. Because of PC your welfare system will take care them. (It is actually in
their manual to use the welfare system)
3. Also because of PC you security forces are hamstrung.
4. Our (yours and ours) bounder is the most porous of any in the world, simply
because of the trust we've had with one another.
I guess we're still a little gun shy after 911.
Pappy
Hi Pappy,,
I don't know you, and of course without speaking face to face I can't really tell
how serious you are, but I have to reply.
I am an air traffic controller, I worked 911, I am a patriot, and I am Canadian.
1. there are more Muslims in the USA than in Canada, thats a fact.
2. every high jacker, not some, every high jacker during 911 was based, lived,
and was allowed to enter the USA by the USA. They did not (contrary to popular
belief) come from Canada.
3. PC? are you talking about the conservative government?, if so they have only
been in power a short while (we were subjected to Liberal (democrat) rule for
13 years) and already our immigration policies are changing for the good. I'm
a conservative, and much like you guys, when the wrong government party gets
in, we all look like idiots.
4. I'm curious as to how a good American, god fearing, and country loving would
have access to a "manual",, come on you really didn't say that. This is clearly
one of the half truths promoted by Pat something er other on TV.
5. Again PC, hamstrung border is about the long living Lieberals in our country
that governed and were caught with their hands in the jelly jar all the time.
6. Ok, I agree we have a very porous border, there is a good reason for that. TRADE!....
did you know you get more oil and gas from Canada, than even the middle
east? Did you know that we export roughly 90% of our exportations to the
US? Also, amongst other things, we are 2 of the fewest nations on the planet
that don't have a major problem with each other, sure we have squabbles, but
the best of brothers do that too.
The USA and Canada have a had a long and prosperous history together, my only
regret is that some of our friends to the south rely on News zealots, half truths,
and somewhat sketchy reports from news media such as FOX to form their opinion
of us. Dude, our families have fought side by side in WW1, WW2, Korea,
Vietnam, and now Afghanistan, do you really think we would knowingly allow "terrorists"
to attack you guys?
We're guilty of listening to lousy news too, but please stop relying on media
such as FOX, Pat Bucanan, or Pat Robertson, et al to form your opinions without
doing some other research.
Pappy, nothing personal and we will meet for a beer some day and we can discuss
this further if you like. I just felt I had to clear up some misconceptions
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "fougapilot"
>
> As many of you may know, US custom began scanning all arriving aircrafts for
radiation in January of this year.
>
> In an effort to protect the US public against those Canadian CJ/Yak owners,
every aircraft arriving in the US has a date with a new "toy" that makes
all sorts of weird noises.
>
> You should have seen the expression on the Officer's face when he approached
my CJ last Friday... His magical toy was having a field trip...
>
> After taking isotope readings (the machine not only detect radiation, but
it also identify the actual source of the radiation) in 3 different locations
(ground power connector, LH and RH side of the front cockpit) he held me
there while he went to check his bible for guidance.
>
> 5 minutes later, he call me on my cell phone and told me I was clear to go.
>
> Good to know that even if I might eventually glow in the dark, my airplane
is still cleared to enter in the US [Wink]
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
>
Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851).
> [b]
:D
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Mike "Skidmk" Bourget
Ottawa, Ontario
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| Subject: | Re: RPA e-communications |
In a message dated 4/22/2008 1:36:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jonboede@hotmail.com writes:
I'll forward this to Condor.
Pappy
Who's running the RPA e-communications these days?
They lost the list of everybody who's registered for an event when they
converted to the "new" system.
You don't need to be an RPA member to register for an event, which is bad in
and of itself, but since it accepts ANYTHING when someone goes to register,
you don't get a validated user name, so it's hard to tell who registered.
It doesn't seem to keep a list of who's registered, so event organizers
can't see who's coming and people who go to register can't see who else is going.
When they sent out my eCOM for the Lone Star Red Star the link to the
registration was broken and the link to the web site we'd set up was broken.
It
was broken both in the email and back on the "having trouble viewing this
email" site that maildog does as a back end.
Doesn't anybody test anything anymore before they release it? The RPA web
site used to run pretty smoothly... now it's a complete mess... what
happened????
Jon
**************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car
listings at AOL Autos.
(http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
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| Subject: | Re: RPA e-communications |
Gang:
I am planning the Tar Heel FAST Clinic and have the same issues that Jon raised
(as an event coordinator, we get no info on who registers, etc). I've communicated
with Drew, Heather, and Darrell. Drew and Heather have assured me that
the membership has been heard loud and clear.
The old site was simple. The new site is complex. I understand the old site had
a great deal of custom coding and the attempt was to move to a site that had
less custom stuff and was more "standard" coding. Hopefully, the old site returns
or the issues with the new are resolved quickly.
Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar Floors |
MessageI built a new hanger and used a good cemmercial grade epoxy
paint. 8 years and no problems. Oil , MEK, etc do not effect it, just
wipe up.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ira Saligman
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 2:05 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Hangar Floors
Does anyone have any suggestions for a new construction hangar floor
finish. I have heard sealing was good but others say that it still lets
oil in. Other people swear by various paint products.
All suggestions on and off line are welcome.
Ira Saligman
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f 215 243 7699
isaligman@Saligman.com
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| Subject: | Re: Yak52 Cowling Shutter axle/pivot Screws |
No Problem at all here. I am having a hard time finding those screws as
well, so I have a machine shop make the for me. I will take 500 of the
shutter bottom attach screws too. Would you be willing to make some?
Thanks,
Kregg
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak52 Cowling Shutter axle/pivot Screws
The short screws on the shutter bottom can be made out of cap screws. I did
not mention the long pivot screws so don't get excited. I am talking about
the screws that are about 6 and 8mm long. I did not say I would do it for
you. I made them for myself at a cost of 50 cents. Jill does not have any in
stock so I made my own. I am only pointing out what alternatives can be used
for some of the parts. I am sorry I fueled the sarcasm.
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What methods are folks using to seal air leaks at joints? Silicone? If so does
anybody have a product the recommend?
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Which joints?
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CZ
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: Yak-List: air leaks
What methods are folks using to seal air leaks at joints? Silicone? If so
does anybody have a product the recommend?
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I thought that some Yak Owners would be interested to know that I have
just received a letter from the Smolensk aircraft factory in Russia,
where all 18Ts have been made, and where they are currently producing
sixty 18Ts as part of an order for the Russian Ministry of Transport.
They are offering new 18T's to me and what is interesting is that the
price ex-works is Euro 455,000 (the Russians have given up US Dollars),
which today is US $719,000. The Ministry of Transport order
incorporates long-range wing tanks; 3-blade propeller and quite
sophisticated avionics, and it is not clear to me whether this price
covers those items - but I suspect that they will not be selling a lot
to the West.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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At 455,000 Euro, do you think they'll be selling a lot to Europe?
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:02
Subject: Yak-List: New Yak-18Ts
I thought that some Yak Owners would be interested to know that I have
just received a letter from the Smolensk aircraft factory in Russia,
where all 18Ts have been made, and where they are currently producing
sixty 18Ts as part of an order for the Russian Ministry of Transport.
They are offering new 18T's to me and what is interesting is that the
price ex-works is Euro 455,000 (the Russians have given up US Dollars),
which today is US $719,000. The Ministry of Transport order
incorporates long-range wing tanks; 3-blade propeller and quite
sophisticated avionics, and it is not clear to me whether this price
covers those items - but I suspect that they will not be selling a lot
to the West.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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| Subject: | M14P & M14PF engines |
I concur with that too Richard. I've run nothing but 25W60 in my stock
YAK-50 for 9 years now. Over 750 hours flown and the only issues I've
had are mags going bad (both within 50 hours of each other) and leaking
exhaust valves from lead build-up, now reduced greatly since I began
running... Dare I say it? MMO.
Walt, just as a comment, there are indeed many brands of automotive oil
that are "ashless dispersant". An example is Valvoline Racing Oil.
Same reason by and large. The oil burns better without contaminating
the plugs. At least that is why I was led to believe by the factory
rep.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Walter Lannon
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 22:26
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14P & M14PF engines
Hi Richard;
There are no "detergent" oils certified for aircraft engines. What you
are referring to is an "ashless dispersant" additive - quite different
from automotive oils.
The Russians probably tried Aeroshell W15W50 and found it too thin. I
agree with that. IMHO the only acceptable multigrade is Phillips X/C
25W60 (20W50 is also too thin). I have used 25W60 in the R985, R1340 for
about 25 years and in the Huosai and M14 for at least ten years.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Goode <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14P & M14PF engines
Vedenyeev have tried Western multigrade oils and say that they
are too thin.
However,they do accept that a good Western oil with detergent is
significantly better than their oil.
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Land <mailto:jland@popeandland.com>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14P & M14PF engines
Richard
What problem have you found with multigrade oil in M14s?
Thanks, Jay
________________________________
From: Richard Goode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:44:51 +0100
To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Yak-List: M14P & M14PF engines
* Since we have sold a lot more of these engines
than anyone else I suppose we should have a view on the relative issues
between them.
* Our experience, drawn from over 250 engines, is
that the PF is statistically somewhat more reliable than the P.
* Remember also that many PFs are worked extremely
hard in Unlimited Level competition Sukhois etc.
* However to present an accurate picture, a much
higher proportion of the PFs that we have sold have been 'new' rather
than overhauled and I am sure this must affect the statistics.
* The PF is not a recent engine - the first ones
were being flown in 1984 and then sold from 1990 - I would guess that
there are something like 200 in service so we have a large 'database'
already.
* I use a PF in my own Yak-18T, where apart from
the obvious advantages of take-off distance; rate of climb, the aircraft
is very significantly faster in cruise if you go up to 8/10,000 feet,
and, I suspect, for many pilots this is where the real advantage might
lie in long trips.
* To get the performance advantage from a PF you
must use the MTV 3-blade propeller. The V-530 2-blade can only transmit
about 350hp, beyond that it becomes inefficient.
* To clarify the official overhaul times, the
first overhaul for a new engine is 750 hours and then a further three
overhauls at 500 hours each to give a life of 2250 hours. These are the
limits that we in Europe have to follow, although we recognise they are
absurdly conservative.
* I would be interested to hear of M14P or M14PF
engines being operated in the US with over 1,000 hours since
new/overhaul - I am led to believe that there are engines with well over
2,000 hours - is this true?
* In terms of engine longevity the following are
critical:
* Careful warming up, and
more importantly, careful cooling down.
* Total avoidance of oil
in the lower cylinders on start up.
* The use of good quality
- ie detergent, but not multigrade Western oil.
* Pre-heating if starting
below +5 degrees centigrade.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
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| Subject: | Oshkosh Yak List |
I wonder......
How many people on this list know anything about Kapton wiring?
Is anyone aware of the fact that we've pulled it out of every military
aircraft that used it? At significant expense?
Also aware that we left it in the airliners?
Anyone here besides me that has direct experience with it blowing up
right in their faces?
Not to take anything away from the FAA's reputation or intent... Which I
have experienced as well... But if you are not aware of the issues with
Kapton wiring, it might be worth your time to educate yourself. You also
might want to make damn sure you never use it to rewire your own
aircraft.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Coussons
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 18:59
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oshkosh Yak List
FAA agent says - "I'm not happy, until you're not happy."
Besides the maint issues, it took me 4 months to transfer the paprework
(OL's, airworthiness etc) when I bought the 55,
Herb
On Apr 21, 2008, at 12:07 PM, John Cox wrote:
Airventure Attendees -
For anyone wanting a CDROM copy of "Aging Aircraft", the FAAs
focus on electrical wiring and potential onboard fires from same, I will
bring copies to OSH. Just contact me offline.
The FAA has been clear on the hard date to comply with
Conformity Inspections. Adel clamps were changed, wiring practices
required removal and replacement of some wire runs and some electrical
controlled devices were removed and then replaced with "improved"
devices. Our entire fleet was done within the time alloted. The
consequence by delaying compliance was a financial one by each carrier.
Cannot comment on American's decision but the behind the scenes efforts
to outsource as much maintenance to non company mechanics is
understandable in an effort to protect bonuses during such times of high
fuel costs.
I can't help those of you who believe that missing Navy missile
brought down TWA #800. The FBI and FAA found it would be easier to
blame it on "Aging Wiring". A lot of the ideas in the CDROM will some
day trickle down to Experimental Built aircraft. The newer certificated,
production units are already meeting the newest standards. I am just
waiting for the EAA to join the fray.
Allan McArter (FAA administrator) told me in 1987 that the two
things the FAA tries to protect is their retirement pension and the
protective rights of unsuspecting citizens on the ground. Those who
chose to fly have already made a decision on their safety. His was an
interesting perspective since Congress got into the focus of what is
being done in aviation.
John Cox
airline mechanic
________________________________
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Craig
Payne
Sent: Mon 4/21/2008 4:13 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Yak-List: Oshkosh Yak List
AirVenture Attendees:
I have heard some chatter from Oshkosh about the FAA conducting
ramp checks on Experimentals during Oshkosh. While they have restrained
themselves from doing this during the event in the past , times have
changed. Just look how they have been "protecting" the flying public
lately by measuring the cable clamp and bundle stitches on airliners.
Your paperwork should be ready pass inspection:
aircraft/pilot/parachute.
Craig Payne
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Thought you'd like to see Pappy in a real WARBIRD!!
Can someone please say GARRY OWEN!!
See you at Fiddlers Green Pappy.
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| Subject: | Re: M14P & M14PF engines |
> Walt, just as a comment, there are indeed many brands of automotive oil
> that are "ashless dispersant". An example is Valvoline Racing Oil.
> Same reason by and large. The oil burns better without contaminating
> the plugs. At least that is why I was led to believe by the factory
> rep.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
Mark;
I had a conversation with a Shell rep many years ago about their new "W"
ashless dispersant oil. As I recall they had experimented with detergent
oils for aircraft but had determined that there was a danger of pre-ignition
in air cooled cylinders due to the presence of super heated ash particles
from the detergent. Apparently not a problem with liquid cooling.
Perhaps racing engines are subject to higher temperatures and a similar
problem with detergents.
That was so many years back I may be totally out to lunch but that is what I
remember.
Cheers;
Walt
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Very unlikely. I can imagine buying other planes with the same
characteristics for far less money.
Jan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: dinsdag 22 april 2008 22:55
Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Yak-18Ts
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
At 455,000 Euro, do you think they'll be selling a lot to Europe?
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:02
Subject: Yak-List: New Yak-18Ts
I thought that some Yak Owners would be interested to know that I have
just received a letter from the Smolensk aircraft factory in Russia,
where all 18Ts have been made, and where they are currently producing
sixty 18Ts as part of an order for the Russian Ministry of Transport.
They are offering new 18T's to me and what is interesting is that the
price ex-works is Euro 455,000 (the Russians have given up US Dollars),
which today is US $719,000. The Ministry of Transport order
incorporates long-range wing tanks; 3-blade propeller and quite
sophisticated avionics, and it is not clear to me whether this price
covers those items - but I suspect that they will not be selling a lot
to the West.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
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You can buy 2 Extra's for that.....rediculous price!
Hans
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Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens Jan Mevis
Verzonden: woensdag 23 april 2008 7:26
Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: RE: Yak-List: New Yak-18Ts
Very unlikely. I can imagine buying other planes with the same
characteristics for far less money.
Jan
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: dinsdag 22 april 2008 22:55
Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Yak-18Ts
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
At 455,000 Euro, do you think they'll be selling a lot to Europe?
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:02
Subject: Yak-List: New Yak-18Ts
I thought that some Yak Owners would be interested to know that I have
just received a letter from the Smolensk aircraft factory in Russia,
where all 18Ts have been made, and where they are currently producing
sixty 18Ts as part of an order for the Russian Ministry of Transport.
They are offering new 18T's to me and what is interesting is that the
price ex-works is Euro 455,000 (the Russians have given up US Dollars),
which today is US $719,000. The Ministry of Transport order
incorporates long-range wing tanks; 3-blade propeller and quite
sophisticated avionics, and it is not clear to me whether this price
covers those items - but I suspect that they will not be selling a lot
to the West.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
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