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1. 03:40 AM - Oshkosh Dorm Contacts (Cpayne)
2. 07:48 AM - Fuel price (Jerry Painter)
3. 08:01 AM - Re: Fuel price (Budd Davisson)
4. 10:12 AM - Re: Fuel price (Roger Baker)
5. 11:26 AM - Re: Fuel price (Budd Davisson)
6. 03:36 PM - Re: out of subject but spares parts search (Marcus Bates)
7. 06:39 PM - Re: Fuel Costs (CJcanuck)
8. 07:43 PM - Re: Fuel Costs (fish@aviation-tech.com)
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| Subject: | Oshkosh Dorm Contacts |
There are 3 ways to reach the dorm reservation people;
920-424-3226 Voice
920-424-0388 Voice
uwoeaa@mio.uwosh.edu Email
Sometimes they ignore one phone line vs another, I have no insight as to why they
do that. My experience over the years was to call mid-morning and mid-afternoon.
This is a college operation, using studentsto supplement staff....
Craig Payne
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Hmmm. Let's see, under Bill Clinton the budget was in surplus and mogas was
a buck. But he was a lousy democrat, so it was all *ucked up. So now we
got our man Bush, a re*ublican, a real man, six years of re*ublican congress
and the budget is Trillion$ out of whack, user fees on everything and more
coming, never ending war in Iraq, gas is $4 and the average take home pay is
less than it was thirty years ago. Yeah, right, makes sense to me. Vote
for Bush clone Mc*ain and maybe we can get gas for $10 and go completely
bankrupt. Sure, that's it, vote Mc*ain. Makes sense to me. That'll really
boost airplane values.
Maybe its all that sun, Pappy.
Jerry Painter
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There are no good choices in this one. None! No matter who gets in, in some
area, one way or another, we'll be screwed by them all.
And I suggest we leave it at that. Politics and pilots is a bad mix.
On 5/21/08 7:45 AM, "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Hmmm. Let's see, under Bill Clinton the budget was in surplus and mogas was
> a buck. But he was a lousy democrat, so it was all *ucked up. So now we
> got our man Bush, a re*ublican, a real man, six years of re*ublican congress
> and the budget is Trillion$ out of whack, user fees on everything and more
> coming, never ending war in Iraq, gas is $4 and the average take home pay is
> less than it was thirty years ago. Yeah, right, makes sense to me. Vote
> for Bush clone Mc*ain and maybe we can get gas for $10 and go completely
> bankrupt. Sure, that's it, vote Mc*ain. Makes sense to me. That'll really
> boost airplane values.
>
> Maybe its all that sun, Pappy.
>
> Jerry Painter
>
>
>
>
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Hi Budd,
It's too bad that "somebody" has posted a mindless political
message on this list...a message that needs to be repudiated.
So, I wish to thank Jerry Painter for his reasoned statement
about the present condition of our country and how it has gotten to
this awful situation.
I don't wish to throw fuel on the fire with this message, but
it was important that Jerry, or another of us, make it known that the
"somebody" political statement certainly doesn't reflect the view of
everybody on the list.
Budd, I agree with you that this Yak List forum should be free
of political statements. However, I don't particularly agree with
your contention that it doesn't matter who "gets in". As a more than
40 year registered Republican, I think it is critically important
that Republican party be soundly thrashed in this election. Then,
perhaps, we could get back to doing what is actually good for our
country and for us ordinary citizens.
Roger Baker____________________________________________________
On May 21, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Budd Davisson wrote:
>
> There are no good choices in this one. None! No matter who gets in,
> in some
> area, one way or another, we'll be screwed by them all.
>
> And I suggest we leave it at that. Politics and pilots is a bad mix.
>
>
> On 5/21/08 7:45 AM, "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> <wild.blue@verizon.net>
>>
>> Hmmm. Let's see, under Bill Clinton the budget was in surplus and
>> mogas was
>> a buck. But he was a lousy democrat, so it was all *ucked up. So
>> now we
>> got our man Bush, a re*ublican, a real man, six years of
>> re*ublican congress
>> and the budget is Trillion$ out of whack, user fees on everything
>> and more
>> coming, never ending war in Iraq, gas is $4 and the average take
>> home pay is
>> less than it was thirty years ago. Yeah, right, makes sense to
>> me. Vote
>> for Bush clone Mc*ain and maybe we can get gas for $10 and go
>> completely
>> bankrupt. Sure, that's it, vote Mc*ain. Makes sense to me.
>> That'll really
>> boost airplane values.
>>
>> Maybe its all that sun, Pappy.
>>
>> Jerry Painter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Get to me off line, if you want, and we'll thrash this out. This isn't for
the Yak list.
On 5/21/08 10:09 AM, "Roger Baker" <f4ffm2@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Budd,
>
> It's too bad that "somebody" has posted a mindless political
> message on this list...a message that needs to be repudiated.
>
> So, I wish to thank Jerry Painter for his reasoned statement
> about the present condition of our country and how it has gotten to
> this awful situation.
>
> I don't wish to throw fuel on the fire with this message, but
> it was important that Jerry, or another of us, make it known that the
> "somebody" political statement certainly doesn't reflect the view of
> everybody on the list.
>
> Budd, I agree with you that this Yak List forum should be free
> of political statements. However, I don't particularly agree with
> your contention that it doesn't matter who "gets in". As a more than
> 40 year registered Republican, I think it is critically important
> that Republican party be soundly thrashed in this election. Then,
> perhaps, we could get back to doing what is actually good for our
> country and for us ordinary citizens.
>
> Roger Baker____________________________________________________
>
> On May 21, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Budd Davisson wrote:
>
>>
>> There are no good choices in this one. None! No matter who gets in,
>> in some
>> area, one way or another, we'll be screwed by them all.
>>
>> And I suggest we leave it at that. Politics and pilots is a bad mix.
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/08 7:45 AM, "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> <wild.blue@verizon.net>
>>>
>>> Hmmm. Let's see, under Bill Clinton the budget was in surplus and
>>> mogas was
>>> a buck. But he was a lousy democrat, so it was all *ucked up. So
>>> now we
>>> got our man Bush, a re*ublican, a real man, six years of
>>> re*ublican congress
>>> and the budget is Trillion$ out of whack, user fees on everything
>>> and more
>>> coming, never ending war in Iraq, gas is $4 and the average take
>>> home pay is
>>> less than it was thirty years ago. Yeah, right, makes sense to
>>> me. Vote
>>> for Bush clone Mc*ain and maybe we can get gas for $10 and go
>>> completely
>>> bankrupt. Sure, that's it, vote Mc*ain. Makes sense to me.
>>> That'll really
>>> boost airplane values.
>>>
>>> Maybe its all that sun, Pappy.
>>>
>>> Jerry Painter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: out of subject but spares parts search |
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: out of subject but spares parts search
Last I knew, which was last year, he was in North Carolina.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: L. Starace
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: out of subject but spares parts search
where is Michael Carr and his YAK 52???
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
mougellionel@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 1:47 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: out of subject but spares parts search
Hi all ,
i friend of mine is currently looking for some spare tires for his
Bucker Jungman . Does anyone heard something about such parts for sale ?
feel free to contact me ;)
Happy landings
Lionel
Lionel....try Marcus Bates in Odessa, Texas......432-563-2885
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Being Canadian I will refrain from commenting on the political scene in the United
States (unless someone wishes to discuss NAFTA) but I do have a few thoughts
on fuel prices.
Do I think the current prices are here to stay? Yes, I do. However, both Europe,
Canada and the Antipodians have been putting up with USD5.00+ per gallon for
many years and both have active, if not as prolific, GA communities.
I see parallel's with the energy crisis of '79. The daily consumption rate for
the United States has only recently matched the daily consumption rate of those
days (see Energy Information Agency info for detail), and that's with a much
larger population. The rationalization of daily oil use (namely, cars) had
a tremendous effect back then and I feel it needs to be revisited. Now, if the
current prices drive all the H2's and sparklingly clean F350's off the road
then I'm all for it. Many of my neighbours have large ski boats with 350HP+ motors
that they go fishing with for Lord's sake.. what are they fishing, submarines??
I rationalize my CJ this way:
My car (Toyota Matrix) driven around 35,000km (22,000miles) per year = ~800 gallons.
(~30miles per gallon)
25hours of CJ @14gal per hour = 350gallons.
Total = 1150gallons
vs
Toyota 4-Runner (common larger vehicle I see) driven same distance = ~1300gallons
(~17miles per gallon)
vs
Hummer H2 (lots on the road in Anchorage) for same distance = ~2000gallons (~11gallons
per mile)
Simply put America, park those ridiculously big cars (H2's, F350's), buy a Ford
Focus/Honda Civic/Motorbike for your daily commute (or better yet, take mass
transit) and put the oil where it's needed most, in the tanks of our CJ's/Yak's!!!
Just my 2 (CDN) cents worth.
Mike
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184280#184280
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Group,
I agree fuel prices are probably here to stay and if we
would like to continue flying, we will need to explore other
methods. Some ideas would be a flying club or fractional
ownership. (Berry, yes I like your idea, currently I can not
afford the buy in)
Using Mike's breakdown, flying 25 hrs per year (2.08 hrs a
month). Lets assume there are 12 hours of daylight flying
per day (year round average). The aircraft is parked for 350
Hrs of day flying per month, where the aircraft is available
for someone else to fly.
A more realestic figure would be to say there are 4 weekends
in a month (24 day hrs X 4 weekends= 96 flying hrs available
per month). So with 4 partners in an aircraft, that leaves
one weekend a month for each to fly the aircraft. Weekends
could be drawn by lotto(aircraft avail wed - tue), giving
everyone an even chance of getting the aircraft on a weekend
they want. If you did not get the weekend you want, you
could then attempt to trade with the others.
This would drop the cost for the individual, and poss allow
more then 2 flight hrs per month. Increasing the utilization
factor of the aircraft, and dropping cost per flight hour.
With a club, you could add aditional aircraft (cross
country, STOL, instrument trainer, Multi Eng, Jet, Ect),
adding additional value to being a member.
Anyone want to purchase a 1/4 to 1/2 shares of a Yak-52?
have aircraft (Cessna, Piper, Twin, Jet, Ect) to include in
a club?
Fly Safe
John Fischer
Yak-52, N213YA
BT-13, Project
L-5, project
PT-19, Project
----- Original Message Follows -----
From: "CJcanuck" <m_kirk69@hotmail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fuel Costs
> <m_kirk69@hotmail.com>
>
> Being Canadian I will refrain from commenting on the
> political scene in the United States (unless someone
> wishes to discuss NAFTA) but I do have a few thoughts on
> fuel prices.
>
> Do I think the current prices are here to stay? Yes, I
> do. However, both Europe, Canada and the Antipodians have
> been putting up with USD5.00+ per gallon for many years
> and both have active, if not as prolific, GA communities.
>
> I see parallel's with the energy crisis of '79. The daily
> consumption rate for the United States has only recently
> matched the daily consumption rate of those days (see
> Energy Information Agency info for detail), and that's
> with a much larger population. The rationalization of
> daily oil use (namely, cars) had a tremendous effect back
> then and I feel it needs to be revisited. Now, if the
> current prices drive all the H2's and sparklingly clean
> F350's off the road then I'm all for it. Many of my
> neighbours have large ski boats with 350HP+ motors that
> they go fishing with for Lord's sake.. what are they
> fishing, submarines??
>
> I rationalize my CJ this way:
>
> My car (Toyota Matrix) driven around 35,000km
> (22,000miles) per year = ~800 gallons. (~30miles per
> gallon) 25hours of CJ @14gal per hour = 350gallons.
> Total = 1150gallons
>
> vs
>
> Toyota 4-Runner (common larger vehicle I see) driven same
> distance = ~1300gallons (~17miles per gallon)
>
> vs
>
> Hummer H2 (lots on the road in Anchorage) for same
> distance = ~2000gallons (~11gallons per mile)
>
> Simply put America, park those ridiculously big cars (H2's
> , F350's), buy a Ford Focus/Honda Civic/Motorbike for your
> daily commute (or better yet, take mass transit) and put
> the oil where it's needed most, in the tanks of our
> CJ's/Yak's!!!
>
> Just my 2 (CDN) cents worth.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184280#184280
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ===
>
>
>
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