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Fri 05/23/08


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 02:12 AM - Intercom not working (Armin Riekert)
     2. 03:58 AM - Re: Yakking in Canada?? (fougapilot)
     3. 04:20 AM - Re: Intercom not working (A. Dennis Savarese)
     4. 04:58 AM - Re: Yakking in Canada?? (skidmk)
     5. 06:52 AM - Owensboro, KY Fun Fly - June 20-21 (David McGirt)
     6. 07:49 AM - Re: Ordering a JPI FS-450 fuel flow instrument (tjyak50)
     7. 08:26 AM - Re: Fuel Costs (Ron Davis)
     8. 09:05 AM - Re: Re: Yakking in Canada?? (doug sapp)
     9. 09:12 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Costs (Richard Goode)
    10. 09:15 AM - Re: Owensboro, KY Fun Fly - June 20-21 (David McGirt)
    11. 11:47 AM - Re: Re: Ordering a JPI FS-450 fuel flow instrument (A. Dennis Savarese)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:12:11 AM PST US
    From: "Armin Riekert" <armin@jarin.de>
    Subject: Intercom not working
    Hi, I'm having problems with my russian intercom in my Yak52. Since a while, it fails to work for a while, sometimes just for a portion of a flight, sometimes for several flights in a row , then again working for months without failure. There is no fading in or out. It quits or comes back completely. Tryed with different headsets, no help. Switching and changing volume at the two selector panels no help either. There is nothing hearable, neither in front nor in the rear. Found that the VHF doesn't work without the intercom selected on too. No sidetone then, and also no change in electrical load when pushing the VHF-ptt. With both switches on, VHF works ok. The SPU-9 box (intercom) has power and ground, same goes for the acoustic warning board. As far as I could find associated points in the wiring diagram, the cables are fine from connector to connector. Am I missing something simple like a fuse or switch? Any comments welcome! Armin


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    Time: 03:58:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yakking in Canada??
    From: "fougapilot" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
    Royden, Good to hear progress is being made with the -55 being able to receive hull coverage. I have had extensive communications with both the people at Marsh and COPA on this and unfortunately the CJ6 (and to the best of my knowledge the Yak52 also) is still black listed as far as hull is concerned. Typical insurance BS. They are under the impression that since it is a foreign Warbird, repairs would be outrageously expensive. Now we all know this is not the case, but they simply don't care to do their home work for such a small market (25 some airplanes). However, there are other benefits to having an airplane Canadian registered. You see, here in Canada, Experimental Exhibition does not exist. The regulation under which these airplanes are authorized clearly says "the purpose of this regulation is to allow the use of foreign ex-military airplanes for recreational uses". This is true for any eligible airplane from the simple CJ to the complex Mig29 (if you win the national lottery). So no 300-600nm play area, no letter to send to the FAA, no "proficiency". Nothing but play time. Heck, if you really have $$ to burn, you could put the wife in the back seat of that Mig and fly across the country just to get better sushi... The only draw back to not being "experimental" is that you are somewhat limited on the modifications you can bring to the airplane. Basically, any modification that will change the performances of the airplane needs to be approved by TC. But even then, the process is rather simple since it is not a truly certified aviation product. D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184483#184483


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    Time: 04:20:28 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Intercom not working
    Armin, It sounds like you have done your homework on the problem. All audio, including the VHF radio and ADF (normally removed) goes through the amplifier box which as you know is under the glare shield between the two cockpits mounted on the left side looking at it from the rear cockpit. Most likely you have a flakey amplifier box. Finding a schematic for it may be difficult and then even if you were able to troubleshoot the unit down to the component level, finding a replacement for the faulty component may be difficult to say the least. I can find out what the repair costs will be through Termikas and see if they have one on the shelf that they would swap with you for the repair cost plus core charge until your unit is returned to them. Let me know if you'd like me to do this. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Armin Riekert" <armin@jarin.de> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:09 AM Subject: Yak-List: Intercom not working > > Hi, > > I'm having problems with my russian intercom in my Yak52. > Since a while, it fails to work for a while, sometimes just for a portion > of > a flight, sometimes for several flights in a row , then again working for > months without failure. There is no fading in or out. It quits or comes > back > completely. Tryed with different headsets, no help. Switching and changing > volume at the two selector panels no help either. There is nothing > hearable, > neither in front nor in the rear. > Found that the VHF doesn't work without the intercom selected on too. No > sidetone then, and also no change in electrical load when pushing the > VHF-ptt. With both switches on, VHF works ok. > The SPU-9 box (intercom) has power and ground, same goes for the acoustic > warning board. As far as I could find associated points in the wiring > diagram, the cables are fine from connector to connector. > Am I missing something simple like a fuse or switch? > Any comments welcome! > > Armin > > >


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    Time: 04:58:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yakking in Canada??
    From: "skidmk" <bourgem@cia.com>
    Hey, glad to hear you've got insurance on your Yak 55M. Curious though, WTF! , over. 1 of these aircraft on the Canadian Registry, same class as Chang's and other yaks, and we cannot get insurance. What kind of premiums are you paying? (If you don't mind me asking). How did you get the insurance? (I really would like hull insurance on my ship) thanks Mike -------- Mike &quot;Skidmk&quot; Bourget Ottawa, Ontario Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184488#184488


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    Time: 06:52:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Owensboro, KY Fun Fly - June 20-21
    From: David McGirt <david@mcgirt.net>
    FYI ALL ( Will add to the website as well ) Dr. Cannon is having his 2nd annual fun fly-in June 20-21 at Owensboro, KY (KOWB). We had a great time last year, and he's "kicking it up a notch" this year. Plans are for arrival Fri. with hamburger cook out at the hanger. Sat. fly all day, then a shrimp boil (or possibly catfish fry) along with a Bluegrass band from Nashville (maybe a cameo appearance by Bill (Strings) Walker. The new airport manager is excited about the fly-in, and is having an airport appreciation day in conjunction. We will get fuel discounts. The hotel of choice is the holiday inn express 270-685-2433, and mention the fly-in. Doc does things right so you won't be disappointed. Contact # for Dr. Cannon is 270-316-9014. Please pass this along to any warbird guys, all are welcome.


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    Time: 07:49:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ordering a JPI FS-450 fuel flow instrument
    From: "tjyak50" <tomjohnson@cox.net>
    Dennis: JPI has had a note about the M14 and the 231 transducer on their website for a few years actually. It is just hard to find. The 231 transducer is the required transducer no matter what any retailer tells you. I have been running this transducer and fuel flow unit in my 50 for 3 years and they are a fantastic unit. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184511#184511


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    Time: 08:26:50 AM PST US
    From: Ron Davis <l39parts@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Fuel Costs
    11 USD per gallon = 440 USD per barrel. The spot price for crude is $130 . Where does the rest go in the U.K.? From: richard.goode@russianaeros.comTo: yak-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Yak-List: Fuel CostsDate: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:04:30 +0100 100LL is already US$11 per US Gallon-not Imperial -in many parts of the UK! ! Richard Richard Goode AerobaticsRhodds FarmLyonshallHerefordHR5 3LWUnited Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129www.russianaeros.com ----- Original Message ----- From: fish@aviation-tech.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 3:40 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fuel Costs h.com>Group,I agree fuel prices are probably here to stay and if wewould li ke to continue flying, we will need to explore othermethods. Some ideas wou ld be a flying club or fractionalownership. (Berry, yes I like your idea, c urrently I can notafford the buy in)Using Mike's breakdown, flying 25 hrs p er year (2.08 hrs amonth). Lets assume there are 12 hours of daylight flyin gper day (year round average). The aircraft is parked for 350Hrs of day fly ing per month, where the aircraft is availablefor someone else to fly. A mo re realestic figure would be to say there are 4 weekendsin a month (24 day hrs X 4 weekends= 96 flying hrs availableper month). So with 4 partners i n an aircraft, that leavesone weekend a month for each to fly the aircraft. Weekendscould be drawn by lotto(aircraft avail wed - tue), givingeveryone an even chance of getting the aircraft on a weekendthey want. If you did no t get the weekend you want, youcould then attempt to trade with the others. This would drop the cost for the individual, and poss allowmore then 2 flig ht hrs per month. Increasing the utilizationfactor of the aircraft, and dro pping cost per flight hour.With a club, you could add aditional aircraft (c rosscountry, STOL, instrument trainer, Multi Eng, Jet, Ect),adding addition al value to being a member.Anyone want to purchase a 1/4 to 1/2 shares of a Yak-52?have aircraft (Cessna, Piper, Twin, Jet, Ect) to include ina club? Fly SafeJohn FischerYak-52, N213YABT-13, ProjectL-5, projectPT-19, Project- ---- Original Message Follows -----From: "CJcanuck" <m_kirk69@hotmail.com>T o: yak-list@matronics.comSubject: Yak-List: Re: Fuel CostsDate: Wed, 21 May @hotmail.com>> > Being Canadian I will refrain from commenting on the> poli tical scene in the United States (unless someone> wishes to discuss NAFTA) but I do have a few thoughts on> fuel prices.> > Do I think the current pri ces are here to stay? Yes, I> do. However, both Europe, Canada and the An tipodians have> been putting up with USD5.00+ per gallon for many years> an d both have active, if not as prolific, GA communities.> > I see parallel's with the energy crisis of '79. The daily> consumption rate for the United States has only recently> matched the daily consumption rate of those days (see> Energy Information Agency info for detail), and that's> with a much larger population. The rationalization of> daily oil use (namely, cars) ha d a tremendous effect back> then and I feel it needs to be revisited. Now, if the> current prices drive all the H2's and sparklingly clean> F350's of f the road then I'm all for it. Many of my> neighbours have large ski boat s with 350HP+ motors that> they go fishing with for Lord's sake.. what are they> fishing, submarines??> > I rationalize my CJ this way:> > My car (Toy ota Matrix) driven around 35,000km> (22,000miles) per year = ~800 gallons . (~30miles per> gallon) 25hours of CJ @14gal per hour = 350gallons.> Tot al = 1150gallons> > vs> > Toyota 4-Runner (common larger vehicle I see) d riven same> distance = ~1300gallons (~17miles per gallon)> > vs> > Hummer H2 (lots on the road in Anchorage) for same> distance = ~2000gallons (~1 1gallons per mile)> > Simply put America, park those ridiculously big cars (H2's> , F350's), buy a Ford Focus/Honda Civic/Motorbike for your> daily co mmute (or better yet, take mass transit) and put> the oil where it's needed most, in the tanks of our> CJ's/Yak's!!!> > Just my 2 (CDN) cents worth.> > Mike> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com /viewtopic.php?p=184280#184280> > > > > > > > ====> > > p; Navigator Photoshare, and href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-Li st">http://www.matronicsnbsp; via the Web href="http://forum ===============nbsp; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.ma tronics.com/c=================----------- ------------------------------------------------------------------This mess age has been scanned for viruses anddangerous content by the http://www.inv ictawiz.comMailScanner, and is believed to be clean.----------------------- ------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_family_safety_052008


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    Time: 09:05:46 AM PST US
    From: "doug sapp" <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Yakking in Canada??
    Guys, During the "early days" almost every one of US. warbird insurers contacted me (and I assume other resellers also) about parts availability, most requested a copy of my inventory on hand. I was told that without the inventory on hand (in the US), they weren't comfortable offering hull insurance. Evidently they were satisfied with the level of existing parts inventories because we seem to have a good supply of companies offering the service. If the folks at Marsh and COPA are willing to spend a bit of time and look into the parts availability both in the US and Canada, they will be pleasantly surprised at the level of "parts on hand" which are maintained by the various Yak and CJ parts houses. New conduits of parts are continually being opened up between ourselves and the manufacturers in China and Russia. Just last week we received two aft fuselage assemblies from the factory in China to replace those damaged in two separate accidents, one in Australia and one in Texas. While this was a long and arduous process the fact that this was possible at all should reinforce the notion that ALL parts are available and not just "expendables". If I can be of service to the Canadian Yak and CJ community with respect to convincing Marsh or COPA that the parts required to do a major repair really do exist, please do not fail to have them contact me. See you all at OSH. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:55 AM, fougapilot <fougapilot@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Royden, > > Good to hear progress is being made with the -55 being able to receive hull > coverage. > > I have had extensive communications with both the people at Marsh and COPA > on this and unfortunately the CJ6 (and to the best of my knowledge the Yak52 > also) is still black listed as far as hull is concerned. Typical insurance > BS. They are under the impression that since it is a foreign Warbird, > repairs would be outrageously expensive. Now we all know this is not the > case, but they simply don't care to do their home work for such a small > market (25 some airplanes). > > However, there are other benefits to having an airplane Canadian > registered. You see, here in Canada, Experimental Exhibition does not exist. > The regulation under which these airplanes are authorized clearly says "the > purpose of this regulation is to allow the use of foreign ex-military > airplanes for recreational uses". This is true for any eligible airplane > from the simple CJ to the complex Mig29 (if you win the national lottery). > So no 300-600nm play area, no letter to send to the FAA, no "proficiency". > Nothing but play time. Heck, if you really have $$ to burn, you could put > the wife in the back seat of that Mig and fly across the country just to get > better sushi... > > The only draw back to not being "experimental" is that you are somewhat > limited on the modifications you can bring to the airplane. Basically, any > modification that will change the performances of the airplane needs to be > approved by TC. But even then, the process is rather simple since it is not > a truly certified aviation product. > > D > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184483#184483 > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 09:12:17 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Costs
    I believe about 65% is in tax.I'm not in the oil business,but I assume the rest is shipping; refining; transport; retailing etc. Our automotive fuel is not far behind at 9 US$ per US Gallon!! Richard Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Davis To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:24 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fuel Costs 11 USD per gallon = 440 USD per barrel. The spot price for crude is $130. Where does the rest go in the U.K.? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: richard.goode@russianaeros.com To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fuel Costs Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:04:30 +0100 100LL is already US$11 per US Gallon-not Imperial -in many parts of the UK!! Richard Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com ----- Original Message ----- From: fish@aviation-tech.com To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 3:40 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fuel Costs <fish@aviation-tech.com> Group, I agree fuel prices are probably here to stay and if we would like to continue flying, we will need to explore other methods. Some ideas would be a flying club or fractional ownership. (Berry, yes I like your idea, currently I can not afford the buy in) Using Mike's breakdown, flying 25 hrs per year (2.08 hrs a month). Lets assume there are 12 hours of daylight flying per day (year round average). The aircraft is parked for 350 Hrs of day flying per month, where the aircraft is available for someone else to fly. A more realestic figure would be to say there are 4 weekends in a month (24 day hrs X 4 weekends= 96 flying hrs available per month). So with 4 partners in an aircraft, that leaves one weekend a month for each to fly the aircraft. Weekends could be drawn by lotto(aircraft avail wed - tue), giving everyone an even chance of getting the aircraft on a weekend they want. If you did not get the weekend you want, you could then attempt to trade with the others. This would drop the cost for the individual, and poss allow more then 2 flight hrs per month. Increasing the utilization factor of the aircraft, and dropping cost per flight hour. With a club, you could add aditional aircraft (cross country, STOL, instrument trainer, Multi Eng, Jet, Ect), adding additional value to being a member. Anyone want to purchase a 1/4 to 1/2 shares of a Yak-52? have aircraft (Cessna, Piper, Twin, Jet, Ect) to include in a club? Fly Safe John Fischer Yak-52, N213YA BT-13, Project L-5, project PT-19, Project ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "CJcanuck" <m_kirk69@hotmail.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fuel Costs Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 18:36:50 -0700 > <m_kirk69@hotmail.com> > > Being Canadian I will refrain from commenting on the > political scene in the United States (unless someone > wishes to discuss NAFTA) but I do have a few thoughts on > fuel prices. > > Do I think the current prices are here to stay? Yes, I > do. However, both Europe, Canada and the Antipodians have > been putting up with USD5.00+ per gallon for many years > and both have active, if not as prolific, GA communities. > > I see parallel's with the energy crisis of '79. The daily > consumption rate for the United States has only recently > matched the daily consumption rate of those days (see > Energy Information Agency info for detail), and that's > with a much larger population. The rationalization of > daily oil use (namely, cars) had a tremendous effect back > then and I feel it needs to be revisited. Now, if the > current prices drive all the H2's and sparklingly clean > F350's off the road then I'm all for it. Many of my > neighbours have large ski boats with 350HP+ motors that > they go fishing with for Lord's sake.. what are they > fishing, submarines?? > > I rationalize my CJ this way: > > My car (Toyota Matrix) driven around 35,000km > (22,000miles) per year = ~800 gallons. (~30miles per > gallon) 25hours of CJ @14gal per hour = 350gallons. > Total = 1150gallons > > vs > > Toyota 4-Runner (common larger vehicle I see) driven same > distance = ~1300gallons (~17miles per gallon) > > vs > > Hummer H2 (lots on the road in Anchorage) for same > distance = ~2000gallons (~11gallons per mile) > > Simply put America, park those ridiculously big cars (H2's > , F350's), buy a Ford Focus/Honda Civic/Motorbike for your > daily commute (or better yet, take mass transit) and put > the oil where it's needed most, in the tanks of our > CJ's/Yak's!!! > > Just my 2 (CDN) cents worth. > > Mike > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184280#184280 > > > > > > > > === > > > p; Navigator Photoshare, and href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics nbsp; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http:==========n bsp; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ================ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- et=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. 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    Time: 09:15:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Owensboro, KY Fun Fly - June 20-21
    From: David McGirt <david@mcgirt.net>
    My pee brain just remembered that the Tarheel clinic is that same weekend.. Anyway, be at one of them On 5/23/08 9:47 AM, "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net> wrote: > > FYI ALL ( Will add to the website as well ) > > Dr. Cannon is having his 2nd annual fun fly-in June 20-21 at Owensboro, KY > (KOWB). We had a great time last year, and he's "kicking it up a notch" this > year. Plans are for arrival Fri. with hamburger cook out at the hanger. Sat. > fly all day, then a shrimp boil (or possibly catfish fry) along with a > Bluegrass band from Nashville (maybe a cameo appearance by Bill (Strings) > Walker. The new airport manager is excited about the fly-in, and is having > an airport appreciation day in conjunction. We will get fuel discounts. > > The hotel of choice is the holiday inn express 270-685-2433, and mention the > fly-in. Doc does things right so you won't be disappointed. Contact # for > Dr. Cannon is 270-316-9014. Please pass this along to any warbird guys, all > are welcome. > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:47:05 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Ordering a JPI FS-450 fuel flow instrument
    You're right about finding anything on the JPI web site. Thanks for the feedback though. Quite frankly, I have seen absolutely no difference in fuel flow whatsoever with the 201B vs. 231. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "tjyak50" <tomjohnson@cox.net> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:46 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Ordering a JPI FS-450 fuel flow instrument > > Dennis: > JPI has had a note about the M14 and the 231 transducer on their website > for a few years actually. It is just hard to find. > > The 231 transducer is the required transducer no matter what any retailer > tells you. > > I have been running this transducer and fuel flow unit in my 50 for 3 > years and they are a fantastic unit. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184511#184511 > > >




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