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Fri 06/13/08


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 08:18 AM - Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the w ord ou (aeroconcept)
     2. 08:27 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 06/12/08 (Michael Hanshew)
     3. 01:07 PM - New topic.. how but dem bears?... seriously Barry pedal mod? (skidmk)
     4. 04:01 PM - new to oshkosh question (ronwasson)
     5. 04:14 PM - Program Letter (Peter K. Van Staagen)
     6. 04:26 PM - egt (Aviatre)
     7. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 06/12/08 (doug sapp)
     8. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the w ord ou (Roger Kemp MD)
     9. 08:19 PM - Re: new to oshkosh question (Herb Coussons)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:18:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the w ord
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    From: "aeroconcept" <info@aero-concept.com>
    This may be not a matter of honesty, or of lack thereof. The guy takes 50% upfront, yet his mark-up is too low, so he does not have enough of his own funds to put into business. To catch up, he ends up running a pyramid rather than, say, raise prices. He is lucky for some long time, then the Yak costs soar and hes logically out of business. He would be dishonest, though, if he had some funds or goods available and did not do his best to refund his clients. This is only an educated guess. I have never had business with the individual. Ilia Palamodov Aeroconcept Trading Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187744#187744


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    Time: 08:27:09 AM PST US
    From: "Michael Hanshew" <michael@sf2racing.com>
    Subject: RE: Yak-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 06/12/08
    I have been reading with great interest the many posts concerning Litaurus. My concern would be the lack of responsibility on behalf of the aircraft brokers involved. We have two individuals in business brokering airplanes. I say "business" because I am sure there is profit involved in the transaction, or else why bother? The people who placed deposits on airplanes, were they advised that ultimately they were dealing with some one of less than reputable reputation? I think not. I am fairly certain the deposits were sent to the brokers, not Lithuania. At that point the responsibility lies with the broker. If you chose to represent people who are known to be less than reputable, you take the risk of soiling your own reputation. You took the risk, now you are expecting people who gave YOU the deposits to assume the loss? If the transaction would have gone smoothly would you have returned your commissions? I think not. To separate oneself from this responsibility, to "pass the buck" instead of returning earnest money and accepting responsibility for your own poor judgment I find appalling. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak-List Digest Server Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:59 PM Subject: Yak-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 06/12/08 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-06-12&Archive=Yak Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2008-06-12&Archive=Yak =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/12/08: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:35 AM - Re: Re: YAK 52 FUEL TANK STRAPS (warren hallstrom) 2. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the w ord out (Roger Kemp MD) 3. 08:04 AM - Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the word out (mougellionel@aol.com) 4. 09:10 AM - Re: Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the word out (doug sapp) 5. 09:40 AM - Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the (frenchsukhoi) 6. 09:49 AM - Re : Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the (mougellionel@aol.com) 7. 10:03 AM - Re : Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get (frenchsukhoi) 8. 09:23 PM - Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the w ord ou (Tim Gagnon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:48 AM PST US From: warren hallstrom <aviat501@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: YAK 52 FUEL TANK STRAPS Dennis I will make up a set straps to support the tanks midsection.. In response to your previous E Mail on my vent system, the aircraft has been modified with the dual vents. Thanks for the info on the fuel bladder mod. Warren The CJ straps will not fit. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "warren552" Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:01 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: YAK 52 FUEL TANK STRAPS > > Hi Doug, > maybe someone on the YAK list has experience with the CJ > straps in regard to modifying them to work in the YAK. > > Thanks > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187214#187214 > > > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:55 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp MD" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the w ord out Yeah but are you guys going to get your airplanes out of him before he goes? Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of netmaster15@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the w ord out Remi, I could have told you that some years back. CLIFF -- "frenchsukhoi" <remi@frenchsukhoi.fr> wrote: Don't worry...it won't take a long time now. Lithuanians jails are cold!!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187463#187463 ================================================; - MATRONICS================================================bsp; - List Contribution Web Site -<B ================================================ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:10 AM PST US Subject: Re : Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the word out From: mougellionel@aol.com Maybe you could join him in jail with your business partner in the same time =C2- .... Lionel Mougel French air force -----E-mail d'origine----- De : frenchsukhoi <remi@frenchsukhoi.fr> A : yak-list@matronics.com Envoy=C3=A9 le : Jeudi, 12 Juin 2008 1:21 Sujet : Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the wor d out Don't worry...it won't take a long time now. Lithuanians jails are cold!!! ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187463#187463 -= - The Yak-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List -======================= -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! -= --> http://forums.matronics.com -======================= -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================= ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:20 AM PST US From: "doug sapp" <dougsappllc@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re : Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the word out On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:01 AM, <mougellionel@aol.com> wrote: > Maybe you could join him in jail with your business partner in the same > time .... > > Lionel Mougel > > French air force > Geeze guys, where did that come from? Doc does have a point, intentional or not he has touched on the reason this scoundrel is still in business. That point is very simply this: Hope springs eternal! Once he has your deposit you have no choice but to hope that he WILL do what he says, if you wait long enough. And we all feel tha t if we rock the boat to violently we will get nothing, so we have no choice but to remain quiet and hope for the best. In the mean time this jerk goes about his business of screwing even more folks in the flying community. Personally I think the guy really does intend to do what he says he will do , but for one reason or another he gets himself in a financial jamb and so he sells the same plane twice or takes a deposit on something he does not even have yet. In my situation he took a 50% deposit on 4 engines, 24 hours after he rec'd my deposit he canceled two of the engines and refused to refund the deposit on the cancelled engines. So now he has full payment fo r the two engines! Very slick indeed!! He then sold my engines to another party here in the states, not once but TWICE and only after I threatened hi m with legal action, Dennis visited him, and I waited more than 2 years did he finally send my engines. Yes folks this guy needs to be put in jail, hopefully that will happen after Dennis gets his aircraft. But as Doc hinted somebody is going to be left holding the bag when it happens. What we need to do is to get the word out about him or better than that, go over there and "talk to him by hand", he obviously need an attitude adjustment. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:01 AM, <mougellionel@aol.com> wrote: > Maybe you could join him in jail with your business partner in the same > time .... > > Lionel Mougel > > French air force > > > -----E-mail d'origine----- > De : frenchsukhoi <remi@frenchsukhoi.fr> > A : yak-list@matronics.com > Envoy=E9 le : Jeudi, 12 Juin 2008 1:21 > Sujet : Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the > word out > > > Don't worry...it won't take a long time now. Lithuanians jails are cold!! ! > > > Read this topic online here: > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187463#187463 > > > t=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ://forums.matronics.com > lank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > * > ========== ========== ========== ========== > * > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:13 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the From: "frenchsukhoi" <remi@frenchsukhoi.fr> Hello Lionel, Why you tell that? Rmi Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187605#187605 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:28 AM PST US Subject: Re : Yak-List: Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the From: mougellionel@aol.com I said that in regards of two things : Firstly , a L 39 in the south east maybe Mr Iturria or Barbier could refresh your mind second , a yak 52 sold to two of my other friends from the french air force officer school i think it's enough to argue that i said regards -----E-mail d'origine----- De : frenchsukhoi <remi@frenchsukhoi.fr> A : yak-list@matronics.com Envoy=C3=A9 le : Jeudi, 12 Juin 2008 18:37 Sujet : Yak-List: Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get th e Hello Lionel, Why you tell that? R=C3=83=C2=A9mi ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187605#187605 -= - The Yak-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List -======================= -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! -= --> http://forums.matronics.com -======================= -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================= ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:38 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re : Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get From: "frenchsukhoi" <remi@frenchsukhoi.fr> Dear Lionel, 1) L39 in the south? 2) You friends from French Air Force: the problem is that this Yak-52 was supposed to be delivered by Liutauras...but as usually nothing happened after we paid the deposit. I am between Liutauras and your friends without any power to act...only legal way as I do now. I never stolen anybody and I will not start to stole someone today. I'm just claiming against Anabaras to take my deposit back and I soon as will receive the money I will give it back to your friends. I'm not a bad guy and situation is pretty complicate for me...Dennis SAVARESE can confirm this. Best regards Lionel, Rmi Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187609#187609 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:23:04 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the w ord ou From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net> How about we stop doing business with anyone over there? What will that do...maybe put pressure on those that are honest to take some sort of action against those that are not...a from of peer pressure. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187696#187696


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    Time: 01:07:46 PM PST US
    Subject: New topic.. how but dem bears?... seriously Barry pedal mod?
    From: "skidmk" <bourgem@cia.com>
    any word thanks 8) -------- Mike &quot;Skidmk&quot; Bourget Ottawa, Ontario Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187778#187778


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    Time: 04:01:56 PM PST US
    Subject: new to oshkosh question
    From: "ronwasson" <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
    I am hoping to make oshkosh on the 27 jul. Do you do the warbird arrival or ripon in a CJ-6a Ron Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187797#187797


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    Time: 04:14:11 PM PST US
    From: "Peter K. Van Staagen" <petervs@knology.net>
    Subject: Program Letter
    Can anyone email me an example of a new program letter and modifications to other documents for the Yak for removing the 300 mile restriction? Any help would be great. Thanks, Peter


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    Time: 04:26:27 PM PST US
    From: Aviatre <aviatre@aol.com>
    Subject: egt
    My CJ6 is finally flying again, After being down for a very long time. I now have a single cylinder egt installed. Any advice as to power and EGT settings would be appreciated. A/C Heating & Refrigeration By Frank Surfas Quality Service and installations since 1977 (530) 644-0272 Cell (530) 391-9760 Ca contractors license #354595


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    Time: 04:39:05 PM PST US
    From: "doug sapp" <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Yak-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 06/12/08
    Since in your hast to be critical you did not sign your email I can only assume your name is really is Michael..... Michael, You have stated the obvious about making a profit, and then you go on to make assumptions way outside the scope of your knowledge of the situation. I don't mean to be harsh but none of the "brokers" that I know of (including myself) have any intention of expecting the customer to assume the loss. They are honorable folks caught up in a bad situation, and I seriously doubt that there is any basis for your your comments. In my situation I gave deposits back on 4 engines when this gentlemen did not ship, and I would expect that if it becomes apparent that he is not going to provide the aircraft a similar action will make the customer whole again. The reason this dialogue was started in the first place was not to cast doubt or question the honor or intentions of the brokers involved, but to utilize the far reaching readership of the Yak list in an attempt to stop any more people from being sucked into a similar situation. If you personally know the folks involved and have heard them say that they expect the customer to absorb the loss then there is a basis for your email, but I can assure the readership that this is NOT the case and I personally take great offense at your saying that this is our intentions or is a reflection of how we operate. You owe the brokers involved an apology, but since you didn't even sign your email I doubt you are a big enough man to admit that you mis spoke. My name and contact information is below should you wish to contact me. On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Michael Hanshew <michael@sf2racing.com> wrote: > > I have been reading with great interest the many posts concerning Litaurus. > My concern would be the lack of responsibility on behalf of the aircraft > brokers involved. We have two individuals in business brokering airplanes. > I > say "business" because I am sure there is profit involved in the > transaction, or else why bother? The people who placed deposits on > airplanes, were they advised that ultimately they were dealing with some > one > of less than reputable reputation? I think not. I am fairly certain the > deposits were sent to the brokers, not Lithuania. At that point the > responsibility lies with the broker. If you chose to represent people who > are known to be less than reputable, you take the risk of soiling your own > reputation. You took the risk, now you are expecting people who gave YOU > the > deposits to assume the loss? If the transaction would have gone smoothly > would you have returned your commissions? I think not. To separate oneself > from this responsibility, to "pass the buck" instead of returning earnest > money and accepting responsibility for your own poor judgment I find > appalling. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak-List Digest > Server > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:59 PM > To: Yak-List Digest List > Subject: Yak-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 06/12/08 > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter > 08-06-12&Archive=Yak > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter > 2008-06-12&Archive=Yak > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Yak-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Thu 06/12/08: 8 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 05:35 AM - Re: Re: YAK 52 FUEL TANK STRAPS (warren hallstrom) > 2. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get > the w ord out (Roger Kemp MD) > 3. 08:04 AM - Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get > the word out (mougellionel@aol.com) > 4. 09:10 AM - Re: Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL > (get the word out (doug sapp) > 5. 09:40 AM - Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get > the (frenchsukhoi) > 6. 09:49 AM - Re : Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL > (get the (mougellionel@aol.com) > 7. 10:03 AM - Re : Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL > (get (frenchsukhoi) > 8. 09:23 PM - Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the w > ord ou (Tim Gagnon) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:35:48 AM PST US > From: warren hallstrom <aviat501@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: YAK 52 FUEL TANK STRAPS > > Dennis > I will make up a set straps to support the tanks midsection.. In response > to your > previous E Mail on my vent system, the aircraft has been modified with the > dual vents. Thanks for the info on the fuel bladder mod. > > Warren > > > The CJ straps will not fit. > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "warren552" > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:01 PM > Subject: Yak-List: Re: YAK 52 FUEL TANK STRAPS > > > > > > Hi Doug, > > maybe someone on the YAK list has experience with the CJ > > straps in regard to modifying them to work in the YAK. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187214#187214 > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:58:55 AM PST US > From: "Roger Kemp MD" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get > the w > ord out > > Yeah but are you guys going to get your airplanes out of him before he > goes? > > Doc > > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > netmaster15@juno.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 8:14 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get > the w ord out > > > Remi, I could have told you that some years back. > CLIFF > -- "frenchsukhoi" <remi@frenchsukhoi.fr> wrote: > > Don't worry...it won't take a long time now. Lithuanians jails are cold!!! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187463#187463 > > > ================================================; - > MATRONICS================================================bsp; - List > Contribution Web Site -<B > ================================================ > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:04:10 AM PST US > Subject: Re : Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get > the > word out > From: mougellionel@aol.com > > Maybe you could join him in jail with your business partner in the same > time > =C2- .... > > Lionel Mougel > > French air force > > > -----E-mail d'origine----- > De : frenchsukhoi <remi@frenchsukhoi.fr> > A : yak-list@matronics.com > Envoy=C3=A9 le : Jeudi, 12 Juin 2008 1:21 > Sujet : Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the > wor > d out > > > Don't worry...it won't take a long time now. Lithuanians jails are cold!!! > > > ead this topic online here: > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187463#187463 > > > -= - The Yak-List Email Forum - > -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse > -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, > -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > -= Photoshare, and much much more: > -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > -======================= > -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! > -= --> http://forums.matronics.com > -======================= > -= - List Contribution Web Site - > -= Thank you for your generous support! > -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > -======================= > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:10:20 AM PST US > From: "doug sapp" <dougsappllc@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Re : Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL > (get > the word out > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:01 AM, <mougellionel@aol.com> wrote: > > > Maybe you could join him in jail with your business partner in the same > > time .... > > > > Lionel Mougel > > > > French air force > > > > Geeze guys, where did that come from? > > Doc does have a point, intentional or not he has touched on the reason this > scoundrel is still in business. That point is very simply this: Hope > springs eternal! Once he has your deposit you have no choice but to hope > that he WILL do what he says, if you wait long enough. And we all feel tha > t > if we rock the boat to violently we will get nothing, so we have no choice > but to remain quiet and hope for the best. In the mean time this jerk goes > about his business of screwing even more folks in the flying community. > Personally I think the guy really does intend to do what he says he will do > , > but for one reason or another he gets himself in a financial jamb and so he > sells the same plane twice or takes a deposit on something he does not even > have yet. In my situation he took a 50% deposit on 4 engines, 24 hours > after he rec'd my deposit he canceled two of the engines and refused to > refund the deposit on the cancelled engines. So now he has full payment fo > r > the two engines! Very slick indeed!! He then sold my engines to another > party here in the states, not once but TWICE and only after I threatened hi > m > with legal action, Dennis visited him, and I waited more than 2 years did > he finally send my engines. Yes folks this guy needs to be put in jail, > hopefully that will happen after Dennis gets his aircraft. But as Doc > hinted somebody is going to be left holding the bag when it happens. What > we need to do is to get the word out about him or better than that, go over > there and "talk to him by hand", he obviously need an attitude adjustment. > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:01 AM, <mougellionel@aol.com> wrote: > > > Maybe you could join him in jail with your business partner in the same > > time .... > > > > Lionel Mougel > > > > French air force > > > > > > -----E-mail d'origine----- > > De : frenchsukhoi <remi@frenchsukhoi.fr> > > A : yak-list@matronics.com > > Envoy=E9 le : Jeudi, 12 Juin 2008 1:21 > > Sujet : Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the > > word out > > > > > > Don't worry...it won't take a long time now. Lithuanians jails are cold!! > ! > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187463#187463 > > > > > > t=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > > ://forums.matronics.com > > lank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > * > > > ========== > ========== > ========== > ========== > > * > > > > > > > -- > Always Yakin, > Doug Sapp > Phone 509-826-4610 > Fax 509-826-3644 > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:40:13 AM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get > the > From: "frenchsukhoi" <remi@frenchsukhoi.fr> > > > Hello Lionel, > > Why you tell that? > > Rmi > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187605#187605 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:49:28 AM PST US > Subject: Re : Yak-List: Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL > (get > the > From: mougellionel@aol.com > > > I said that in regards of two things : > > Firstly , a L 39 in the south east maybe Mr Iturria or Barbier could > refresh > your mind > second , a yak 52 sold to two of my other friends from the french air force > officer school > > i think it's enough to argue that i said > > regards > > > -----E-mail d'origine----- > De : frenchsukhoi <remi@frenchsukhoi.fr> > A : yak-list@matronics.com > Envoy=C3=A9 le : Jeudi, 12 Juin 2008 18:37 > Sujet : Yak-List: Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get > th > e > > > Hello Lionel, > Why you tell that? > R=C3=83=C2=A9mi > > > ead this topic online here: > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187605#187605 > > > -= - The Yak-List Email Forum - > -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse > -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, > -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > -= Photoshare, and much much more: > -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > -======================= > -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! > -= --> http://forums.matronics.com > -======================= > -= - List Contribution Web Site - > -= Thank you for your generous support! > -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > -======================= > > > ________________________________ Message 7 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:03:38 AM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: Re : Re : Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL > (get > From: "frenchsukhoi" <remi@frenchsukhoi.fr> > > > Dear Lionel, > > 1) L39 in the south? > > 2) You friends from French Air Force: the problem is that this Yak-52 was > supposed > to be delivered by Liutauras...but as usually nothing happened after we > paid > the deposit. I am between Liutauras and your friends without any power to > act...only > legal way as I do now. I never stolen anybody and I will not start to > stole someone today. I'm just claiming against Anabaras to take my deposit > back > and I soon as will receive the money I will give it back to your friends. > I'm not a bad guy and situation is pretty complicate for me...Dennis > SAVARESE > can confirm this. > > Best regards Lionel, > > Rmi > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187609#187609 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:23:04 PM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the w > ord > ou > From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net> > > > How about we stop doing business with anyone over there? What will that > do...maybe > put pressure on those that are honest to take some sort of action against > those that are not...a from of peer pressure. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187696#187696 > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    From: "Roger Kemp MD" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the w
    ord ou Termikus appears to be the honest one of the three. Does outstanding work but is a bit more pricey than the other two Lithuanian suppliers. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:20 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Liutauras Dzuisas needs to be put in JAIL (get the w ord ou How about we stop doing business with anyone over there? What will that do...maybe put pressure on those that are honest to take some sort of action against those that are not...a from of peer pressure. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187696#187696


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    Time: 08:19:26 PM PST US
    From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
    Subject: Re: new to oshkosh question
    Warbird arrival - easier and less crowded with slower planes. On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:58 PM, ronwasson wrote: > > I am hoping to make oshkosh on the 27 jul. Do you do the warbird > arrival or ripon in a CJ-6a > > Ron > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187797#187797 > >




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