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1. 08:29 AM - Partsbase and mag timing (Jill Gernetzke)
2. 12:15 PM - Re: Partsbase and mag timing (Chris Wise)
3. 02:28 PM - Re: Partsbase and mag timing (Herb Coussons)
4. 07:08 PM - Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership (Tim Gagnon)
5. 07:45 PM - Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership (Dale)
6. 08:20 PM - Re: Partsbase and mag timing (Terry Lewis)
7. 08:48 PM - Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership (Tim Gagnon)
8. 09:15 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership (Roger Kemp MD)
9. 09:26 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership (vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
10. 10:51 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership (n4829t@aol.com)
11. 11:03 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership (n4829t@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Partsbase and mag timing |
>
Group,
Have any of your ever used Partsbase to locate aircraft parts? Do any
of you list your parts on Partsbase? I am doing a bit of my own market
research on their product (website). Any feedback is appreciated.
To all who responded to my request for Czech Mate contact info" Thank
you! The list is awesome in this respect.
Re: Mag timing
If you remove the magneto and rubber coupling to change its timing,
please remember to reinstall the rubber coupling in the correct
orientation. It is possible to install it upside down. There is a
deeper cut in one side of the rubber coupling (bushing). The shallower
cut couples to the drive in the engine.
I am looking at having the Russian V-530 prop overhaul manual
translated. However, this will cost approximately $2,000. I will go
ahead with the translation, if I can break even at the very least.
Please contact me offlist and let me know if you are interested in a
copy. I would like a preorder list of at least 40 people to keep the
cost reasonable. Years ago, I bought an original Yak 55 parts manual
for a large sum of money. I have not broken even on sales of that
manual, yet. This is a service to you, so please let me know and I
will do it.
Best regards,
Jill
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| Subject: | Re: Partsbase and mag timing |
G'Day Jill,
Yep, Im in for a copy of the prop OVH manual.
Thanks and kind regards,
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jill Gernetzke" <jill@m-14p.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 12:56 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Partsbase and mag timing
>
>>
>
> Group,
>
> Have any of your ever used Partsbase to locate aircraft parts? Do any of
> you list your parts on Partsbase? I am doing a bit of my own market
> research on their product (website). Any feedback is appreciated.
>
> To all who responded to my request for Czech Mate contact info" Thank
> you! The list is awesome in this respect.
>
> Re: Mag timing
> If you remove the magneto and rubber coupling to change its timing, please
> remember to reinstall the rubber coupling in the correct orientation. It
> is possible to install it upside down. There is a deeper cut in one side
> of the rubber coupling (bushing). The shallower cut couples to the drive
> in the engine.
>
> I am looking at having the Russian V-530 prop overhaul manual translated.
> However, this will cost approximately $2,000. I will go ahead with the
> translation, if I can break even at the very least. Please contact me
> offlist and let me know if you are interested in a copy. I would like a
> preorder list of at least 40 people to keep the cost reasonable. Years
> ago, I bought an original Yak 55 parts manual for a large sum of money. I
> have not broken even on sales of that manual, yet. This is a service to
> you, so please let me know and I will do it.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jill
>
>
> --
> Date: 6/19/2008 3:21 PM
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Partsbase and mag timing |
Jill,
I would like a copy of the Yak 55 parts manual. I have one and 3
crates full of spare parts that I need to go through. You can contact
me off list at drc@wscare.com
Herb Coussons
On Jun 20, 2008, at 10:26 AM, Jill Gernetzke wrote:
>
>>
>
> Group,
>
> Have any of your ever used Partsbase to locate aircraft parts? Do
> any of you list your parts on Partsbase? I am doing a bit of my own
> market research on their product (website). Any feedback is
> appreciated.
>
> To all who responded to my request for Czech Mate contact info"
> Thank you! The list is awesome in this respect.
>
> Re: Mag timing
> If you remove the magneto and rubber coupling to change its timing,
> please remember to reinstall the rubber coupling in the correct
> orientation. It is possible to install it upside down. There is a
> deeper cut in one side of the rubber coupling (bushing). The
> shallower cut couples to the drive in the engine.
>
> I am looking at having the Russian V-530 prop overhaul manual
> translated. However, this will cost approximately $2,000. I will
> go ahead with the translation, if I can break even at the very
> least. Please contact me offlist and let me know if you are
> interested in a copy. I would like a preorder list of at least 40
> people to keep the cost reasonable. Years ago, I bought an original
> Yak 55 parts manual for a large sum of money. I have not broken
> even on sales of that manual, yet. This is a service to you, so
> please let me know and I will do it.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jill
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership |
I was in a McDonald's today here at Kirtland AFB and overheard a guy talking airplanes.
I guess he owns one and is concerned enough about the rising cost of
av-fuel that he is planning on selling his airplane. It made me think..at what
point will fuel have to get before people start parking or selling their Yaks
or CJ's. Mine is gone and fuel was one of many considerations in selling her.
(A new big house in a new town was the big one...)
So...where does fuel have to be before people start getting really worried or seriously
curtail their flying...or has it already started to happen?
I hope all is well with everyone!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188843#188843
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership |
1.Cost of Plane $60,000 to 130,000 Plus loss of Interest on money. (investment
loss=up to $6,500 per year, I didn't spend this much on fuel.)
2.Hangar $35,000 or $300 month ( more than most spend on fuel)
3.Maint per year$ $?To $3,000 ( did anyone spend less that this much on fuel )
4.Insurance $1,600 To $6,000 ( what's that about fuel )
5.Fuel $4.45 Gal ,
6. Oil toss up for fuel on cost. Not sure if I drip more than burn.
7. Try flying in Europe for these cost. Fuel $3eu liter?
8. Don't forget to set back $2.50 a hour for a air compressor. whew!
Never understood someone selling their plane because of fuel going up and costing
20 bucks more a hour to fly when they invested this much to begin with.
9. I forgot the fun factor. Priceless. (for me but I'm worth it)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188845#188845
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| Subject: | Re: Partsbase and mag timing |
I tried to do a little research on PARTSBASE and came up with zilch in the
stock market.
There symbol, at one time,on DJ was PRTS . That symbol now belongs to an
auto parts co.
During the time of 2000 to 2001 the stock went from above $12.00 per share
to under $2.00 per share due to a class action law suite.
Google this company and decide if its for you.
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jill Gernetzke" <jill@m-14p.com>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:26 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Partsbase and mag timing
>
>>
>
> Group,
>
> Have any of your ever used Partsbase to locate aircraft parts? Do any of
> you list your parts on Partsbase? I am doing a bit of my own market
> research on their product (website). Any feedback is appreciated.
>
> To all who responded to my request for Czech Mate contact info" Thank
> you! The list is awesome in this respect.
>
> Re: Mag timing
> If you remove the magneto and rubber coupling to change its timing, please
> remember to reinstall the rubber coupling in the correct orientation. It
> is possible to install it upside down. There is a deeper cut in one side
> of the rubber coupling (bushing). The shallower cut couples to the drive
> in the engine.
>
> I am looking at having the Russian V-530 prop overhaul manual translated.
> However, this will cost approximately $2,000. I will go ahead with the
> translation, if I can break even at the very least. Please contact me
> offlist and let me know if you are interested in a copy. I would like a
> preorder list of at least 40 people to keep the cost reasonable. Years
> ago, I bought an original Yak 55 parts manual for a large sum of money. I
> have not broken even on sales of that manual, yet. This is a service to
> you, so please let me know and I will do it.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jill
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership |
Dale,
99.9% of airplane operators in the world are concerned about the rising cost of
fuel and how it will impact their operations. I am including EVERY operator...airlines,
military, corporate..and so on. The company I fly for is certainly
concerned about it..and we pass the cost on directly to our owners...BUT..the
owners certainly have a voice in this..and they use that voice when it comes to
operations.
There is little doubt you can match the fun per pound ratio of any Yak....I cannot
argue that point. I miss the shit out of my airplane...but it had come time
to part with it. Was fuel a consideration, as I stated, it was one of many.
Was it a large percentage, nope..I did not fly the airplane enough for it to have
a large impact.
It will and has found its way into general aviation....I am just curious about
its impact on the Yak community. While we cannot quantify the value of fun...you
can with the rising cost of overall ownership.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188851#188851
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership |
Great analogy!
The price of gas is not the reason to sell the YAK or the CJ. Now the
L29/39/9 or 11 maybe. Welcome to the T-6,Corsair, Spitfire, P-51 or P-47
world 4 to 5 years ago. Now the cost to top those tanks at today's gas
prices are a reason to park the fun machine.
Yesterday for 12 gals @ $4.69/gal I had 47 min of sheer fun doing Cuban
8's, loops, split S 's, barrel rolls around the sun all following the low
level up the river over the lake at sunset. Threw in a few ridge crossings
over the building Qs over the lake during the acro session. What a great way
to end a day after being in the office!
The price of gas is not a reason to part with the YAK/CJ. We still have the
cheapest most fun warbird to operate even at today's gas prices.
Go fly and get an attitude adjustment! Sixty bucks for 3/4's hour of fun is
not going to break us. It's the most fun we can have with on cloths on!
Now $703 for 150 gal of JP4 may make me think about turning the L-39 into a
static display.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:43 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership
1.Cost of Plane $60,000 to 130,000 Plus loss of Interest on money.
(investment loss=up to $6,500 per year, I didn't spend this much on fuel.)
2.Hangar $35,000 or $300 month ( more than most spend on fuel)
3.Maint per year$ $?To $3,000 ( did anyone spend less that this much on fuel
)
4.Insurance $1,600 To $6,000 ( what's that about fuel )
5.Fuel $4.45 Gal ,
6. Oil toss up for fuel on cost. Not sure if I drip more than burn.
7. Try flying in Europe for these cost. Fuel $3eu liter?
8. Don't forget to set back $2.50 a hour for a air compressor. whew!
Never understood someone selling their plane because of fuel going up and
costing 20 bucks more a hour to fly when they invested this much to begin
with.
9. I forgot the fun factor. Priceless. (for me but I'm worth it)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188845#188845
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership |
Looks to me like yall are gluttons for punishment:
1.? Cost of Plane I agree with but then I don't think they are losing value like
buying a new car does!!
2.? Hanger?? Nope shade:? $1140. year or $95.00 per month
3.? Maintenance:? $200. for inspection and do my own work Auto Spark Plugs as
well, $1.95 each.?
4.? Insurance:? $500.00 Liability only, take the risk?
5.? Fuel:? $3.80 p/gal.? I use only mogas and have for years, send in for the road
tax refund as well.
6.? Oil:? About $735.00 per year for 200 hrs of flight time 50 hr changes
7.? Forget Europe
8.? Pull the air compressor and completely clean the piston and ALL the valves,
I have never replaced one in 1000hrs of flying.
So you see, if your willing to work at it, it is still rather cheap, and there
is one thing for sure, it will only get more expensive, so fly now as our time
is running out!!
I figure my Nanchang burns about 8 GPH when running mogas as cost compared to 100LL.?
So why are you running 100LL?? The Chinese sure didn't I can assure you
of that!
Happy Flying!!
Bunndini for King!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Dale <hdinamic@qwest.net>
Sent: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 7:42 pm
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership
1.Cost of Plane $60,000 to 130,000 Plus loss of Interest on money. (investment
loss=up to $6,500 per year, I didn't spend this much on fuel.)
2.Hangar $35,000 or $300 month ( more than most spend on fuel)
3.Maint per year$ $?To $3,000 ( did anyone spend less that this much on fuel )
4.Insurance $1,600 To $6,000 ( what's that about fuel )
5.Fuel $4.45 Gal ,
6. Oil toss up for fuel on cost. Not sure if I drip more than burn.
7. Try flying in Europe for these cost. Fuel $3eu liter?
8. Don't forget to set back $2.50 a hour for a air compressor. whew!
Never understood someone selling their plane because of fuel going up and
costing 20 bucks more a hour to fly when they invested this much to begin with.
9. I forgot the fun factor. Priceless. (for me but I'm worth it)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188845#188845
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership |
-----Original Message-----
From: vectorwarbirds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership
Looks to me like yall are gluttons for punishment:
1.? Cost of Plane I agree with but then I don't think they are losing value like
buying a new car does!!
2.? Hanger?? Nope shade:? $1140. year or $95.00 per month
3.? Maintenance:? $200. for inspection and do my own work Auto Spark Plugs as
well, $1.95 each.?
4.? Insurance:? $500.00 Liability only, take the risk?
5.? Fuel:? $3.80 p/gal.? I use only mogas and have for years, send in for the road
tax refund as well.
6.? Oil:? About $735.00 per year for 200 hrs of flight time 50 hr changes
7.? Forget Europe
8.? Pull the air compressor and completely clean the piston and ALL the valves,
I have never replaced one in 1000hrs of flying.
So you see, if your willing to work at it, it is still rather cheap, and there
is one thing for sure, it will only get more expensive, so fly now as our time
is running out!!
I figure my Nanchang burns about 8 GPH when running mogas as cost compared to 100LL.?
So why are you running 100LL?? The Chinese sure didn'
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership |
-----Original Message-----
From: vectorwarbirds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Fuel Prices and aircraft ownership
Looks to me like yall are gluttons for punishment:
1.? Cost of Plane I agree with but then I don't think they are losing value like
buying a new car does!!
2.? Hanger?? Nope shade:? $1140. year or $95.00 per month
3.? Maintenance:? $200. for inspection and do my own work Auto Spark Plugs as
well, $1.95 each.?
4.? Insurance:? $500.00 Liability only, take the risk?
5.? Fuel:? $3.80 p/gal.? I use only mogas and have for years, send in for the road
tax refund as well.
6.? Oil:? About $735.00 per year for 200 hrs of flight time 50 hr changes
7.? Forget Europe
8.? Pull the air compressor and completely clean the piston and ALL the valves,
I have never replaced one in 1000hrs of flying.
So you see, if your willing to work at it, it is still rather cheap, and there
is one thing for sure, it will only get more expensive, so fly now as our time
is running out!!
I figure my Nanchang burns about 8 GPH when running mogas as cost compared to 100LL.?
So why are you running 100LL?? The Chinese sure didn'
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