---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/23/08: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:09 AM - Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 (Dale) 2. 07:11 AM - Re: Radios for sale? (Roger Kemp MD) 3. 09:27 AM - Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 (Craig Winkelmann, CFI) 4. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 (Roger Baker) 5. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 (b747crew2003@aol.com) 6. 11:51 AM - Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 - Cost of Ownership (Sam Sax) 7. 12:04 PM - Re: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 - Cost of Ownership (Ernest Martinez) 8. 12:50 PM - Re: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 - Cost of Ownership (doug sapp) 9. 03:51 PM - Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 (Dale) 10. 06:04 PM - Is it me or do they ever so slightly resemble YAKs? (Russ) 11. 06:30 PM - New M-14P wanted (radiopicture) 12. 06:38 PM - Re: New M-14P wanted (Budd Davisson) 13. 06:47 PM - Re: New M-14P wanted (Budd Davisson) 14. 09:42 PM - Re: New M-14P wanted (Peter K. Van Staagen) 15. 10:06 PM - Re: New M-14P wanted (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E) 16. 10:54 PM - Re: New M-14P wanted (Jan Mevis) 17. 11:15 PM - Re: New M-14P wanted (Chris Wise) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:47 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 From: "Dale" All kinds of Yaks and CJ's on Barnstormers.com , go get one. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189256#189256 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:00 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp MD" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Radios for sale? Hi Scott, I'm confused.thought I sent the wlacrussianeng.co link to Andrew Love in AU. That url is a source of YAK parts that I use when I can't get them here in the US. Before saying the following, here is the disclaimer: " I am not a broker, importer, or maintainer of Red Star Aircraft. I maintain my own aircraft in my own hanger. I do get assistance when needed or mandated by FAA regulation. This being said, the following are two known YAK refurbishers/ re-salers across the pond that I know people have had favorable dealings with, myself included. Those were for parts I needed. I've had a protracted time dealing with Liutaraus @ Anabaras in Li. That was over some issues with my 52 concerning the engine. He eventually made that right. He replaced the engine and I paid him what he requested as compensation for that. I am not disparaging Aeroconcept or anyone else for that matter that sells or refurbishs YAK aircraft in the world. So much for the TMFI with the disclaimer. So: Try the Termikus website (www.termikus.com) or Rob Rowe or Mark Jefferies in the UK (www.yakuk.com )( I think) for YAKS for sale across the pond. I'm not aware of any available in the US currently. Jerry Painter (?) I believe had or has a TW for sale up in Oregan or is it Washington State? If you are interested in a YAK-50, talk to Dave Hilker in KS. Contact me off list for that contact info if interested. Thanks, Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SD737@aol.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Radios for sale? Hi Doc, Pete Taylor is the friend who is interested in a Yak-52. I went to the website http://www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk/ that you forwarded to me, but no Yak-52's listed for sale. Thanks for your help, Scott _____ Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:42 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 From: "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" Jerry Painter in Washington has a 1986 Yak-52 w/ 800 hrs, lower time engine and WW prop. Stripped and ready to paint. Asking $65K. Phone 425-876-0865. I'd look into the hx...paint stripped, newer engine and prop. Sounds like a gear up situation. Could be a great deal though and you get to do your own paint scheme!! Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189329#189329 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:38 AM PST US From: Roger Baker Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 Dale, I see two Yak 52's for sale at Barnstormers; one in France at 78,000 Euros and one in the US. On Trade-A-Plane, there is only one 52 advertized. Roger Baker_______________________________________________ On Jun 23, 2008, at 6:06 AM, Dale wrote: > > All kinds of Yaks and CJ's on Barnstormers.com , go get one. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189256#189256 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 From: b747crew2003@aol.com Craig; =C2-=C2- FYI my 52-W is on the market. Jack -----Original Message----- From: Craig Winkelmann, CFI Sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:24 pm Subject: Yak-List: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 Jerry Painter in Washington has a 1986 Yak-52 w/ 800 hrs, lower time engine and WW prop. Stripped and ready to paint. Asking $65K. Phone 425-876-0865. I'd look into the hx...paint stripped, newer engine and prop. Sounds like a gear up situation. Could be a great deal though and you get to do your own p aint scheme!! Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189329#189329 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:51:12 AM PST US From: Sam Sax Subject: Yak-List: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 - Cost of Ownership This is interesting... (few Yak-52 and CJ in the market - in the U.S). Considering the Thread earlier this week regarding concerning cost of ownership and of dropping market values of our airplanes due to rising fuel prices - I would offer the opinion that in the relatively near future, our aircraft value could go up in price... Why? you ask - because we are becoming much more attractive to the larger HP aircraft owner (T-6 and up) who really feel the fuel cost pinch, unless independently wealthy. I believe we will see more and more of those for sale soon as they migrate to the YAK/CJ. I see warbird market reacting similarly to the automotive market where you can get bargain prices on large SUVs and fancy Dullys and trucks while the economy cars' value rising steadily - time will tell but don't rush to sell your Yak or CJ just yet... FWIW Sam Sax Miami, FL ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:57 PM PST US From: "Ernest Martinez" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 - Cost of Ownership As long as people keep importing CJ's and Yaks, supply will always be ahead of demand. Most of the higher HP airplane drivers are in their 60's and 70's and will probably just retire rather than switch to some "Commie Airplane" (their term not mine). Ernie On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Sam Sax wrote: > > > This is interesting... (few Yak-52 and CJ in the market - in the U.S). > > Considering the Thread earlier this week regarding concerning cost of ownership and of dropping market values of our airplanes due to rising fuel prices - I would offer the opinion that in the relatively near future, our aircraft value could go up in price... Why? you ask - because we are becoming much more attractive to the larger HP aircraft owner (T-6 and up) who really feel the fuel cost pinch, unless independently wealthy. I believe we will see more and more of those for sale soon as they migrate to the YAK/CJ. I see warbird market reacting similarly to the automotive market where you can get bargain prices on large SUVs and fancy Dullys and trucks while the economy cars' value rising steadily - time will tell but don't rush to sell your Yak or CJ just yet... > > FWIW > > Sam Sax > Miami, FL > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:19 PM PST US From: "doug sapp" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 - Cost of Ownership One other item no one is considering. The cost to get your CJ to a US port just nearly doubled due to the rising cost of fuel. A over height, open top container was running about 5K 3-4 months ago. I have a open top container on the water right now that is costing me 9K Beijing to Seattle. On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Sam Sax wrote: > > > This is interesting... (few Yak-52 and CJ in the market - in the U.S). > > Considering the Thread earlier this week regarding concerning cost of > ownership and of dropping market values of our airplanes due to rising fuel > prices - I would offer the opinion that in the relatively near future, our > aircraft value could go up in price... Why? you ask - because we are > becoming much more attractive to the larger HP aircraft owner (T-6 and up) > who really feel the fuel cost pinch, unless independently wealthy. I > believe we will see more and more of those for sale soon as they migrate to > the YAK/CJ. I see warbird market reacting similarly to the automotive > market where you can get bargain prices on large SUVs and fancy Dullys and > trucks while the economy cars' value rising steadily - time will tell but > don't rush to sell your Yak or CJ just yet... > > FWIW > > Sam Sax > Miami, FL > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:59 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Looking to buy Yak-52 From: "Dale" Call Al Tinnes in Lamar, Co. I think he has a couple of 52's for sale. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189443#189443 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:19 PM PST US From: "Russ" Subject: Yak-List: Is it me or do they ever so slightly resemble YAKs? Blankhttp://www.veryfunnyads.com/index.html?id=25955 Russ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:30:28 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted From: "radiopicture" In search of first-run Russian (not Romanian), zero time (new-pickled in crate) M-14P. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189472#189472 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:38:34 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted From: Budd Davisson I have a 1999 new, never-run Romanian. Sorry. Not a Russian. Has US harness, B & C mount pad, came in through George Coy, never unwrapped. bd On 6/23/08 6:27 PM, "radiopicture" wrote: > > In search of first-run Russian (not Romanian), zero time (new-pickled in > crate) M-14P. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189472#189472 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted From: Budd Davisson Stored in Phoenix its entire life. Super dry. On 6/23/08 6:35 PM, "Budd Davisson" wrote: > > I have a 1999 new, never-run Romanian. Sorry. Not a Russian. Has US harness, > B & C mount pad, came in through George Coy, never unwrapped. > > bd > > > On 6/23/08 6:27 PM, "radiopicture" wrote: > >> >> In search of first-run Russian (not Romanian), zero time (new-pickled in >> crate) M-14P. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189472#189472 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:42:32 PM PST US From: "Peter K. Van Staagen" Subject: RE: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted There is a new old stock M14-P on Ebay, starting bid of $32,000 with no bids. That price makes me want to part out my Yak. Doesn't say if it is Russian. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB %3ASS%3AUS%3A1123&viewitem=&item=160254017228 Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of radiopicture Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted In search of first-run Russian (not Romanian), zero time (new-pickled in crate) M-14P. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189472#189472 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:06:10 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" They must think engine prices go up with gas prices as well. 32 grand is in the ballpark for a PF, but not a P, not in my opinion anyway. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter K. Van Staagen Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:37 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted --> There is a new old stock M14-P on Ebay, starting bid of $32,000 with no bids. That price makes me want to part out my Yak. Doesn't say if it is Russian. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME %3AB %3ASS%3AUS%3A1123&viewitem=&item=160254017228 Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of radiopicture Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted In search of first-run Russian (not Romanian), zero time (new-pickled in crate) M-14P. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189472#189472 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:54:57 PM PST US From: "Jan Mevis" Subject: RE: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted I also think it 'll be impossible to find a first-run, zero-time Russian M-14P, because there are none. Furthermore, there won't be many brand-new Romanian M14P engines either. Jan -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Budd Davisson Sent: dinsdag 24 juni 2008 3:35 Subject: Re: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted I have a 1999 new, never-run Romanian. Sorry. Not a Russian. Has US harness, B & C mount pad, came in through George Coy, never unwrapped. bd On 6/23/08 6:27 PM, "radiopicture" wrote: > > In search of first-run Russian (not Romanian), zero time (new-pickled in > crate) M-14P. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189472#189472 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:15:14 PM PST US From: "Chris Wise" Subject: Re: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted If the dude on eBay wants that much. I would tell him to go forth and multipply. Buy one from Jill. pay less than that and you know the history etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter K. Van Staagen" Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:06 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted > > > There is a new old stock M14-P on Ebay, starting bid of $32,000 with no > bids. That price makes me want to part out my Yak. Doesn't say if it is > Russian. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB > %3ASS%3AUS%3A1123&viewitem=&item=160254017228 > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of radiopicture > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:27 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: New M-14P wanted > > > In search of first-run Russian (not Romanian), zero time (new-pickled in > crate) M-14P. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189472#189472 > > > -- > Checked by AVG. > 7:16 PM > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.