---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/09/08: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:14 AM - Chinese Copy of M-14PF (Craig Winkelmann, CFI) 2. 07:19 AM - Different Props for Housai (Craig Winkelmann, CFI) 3. 08:07 AM - Re: Different Props for Housai (doug sapp) 4. 04:41 PM - Re: Different Props for Housai (Craig Winkelmann, CFI) 5. 05:13 PM - Re: Re: Different Props for Housai (doug sapp) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:33 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Chinese Copy of M-14PF From: "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" Richard: We can only hope that the Russians are correct in that the Chinese want to copy the M-14PF. It would, hopefully, be as great source of parts and engines since the Russians can't seem to get their act together. In addition, for the Chinese, it would be a way to ensure they have a source of parts and engines for the Yak-152K whenever they start producing and flying it. Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=191939#191939 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:55 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Different Props for Housai From: "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" Has anyone put a different prop on a Housai. It would seem as though a 3-bladed composite prop would add some nice climb performance to the CJ with a Housai. I thought I saw a 4-blade design on the web site from the folks who are still making the CJ. Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=191940#191940 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:17 AM PST US From: "doug sapp" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Different Props for Housai Craig, Reports are that the Chinese three blade will cost you about 5 kts and 5K (for a used one). Let me know if you want one. I have a customer who bought one and flew it for only 7-8 hours and went back to the two blade because it was faster. Sexy yes, faster no. As far as the Chinese building 360 or 400 hp engines for the new CJ7, yes it is true they are being licensed to do so. But IMHO you and I will not live long enough to see overhauled engines cycle through thier system, reach a point of excess and be offerd to the US market at a price point compareable to the Russian engines. Considering that the Chinese feel that a new HS6A is worth in excess of 45K right now, one can only guess that a new Chinese P or PF would cost. See yall at OSH. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Craig Winkelmann, CFI wrote: > > > > Has anyone put a different prop on a Housai. It would seem as though a > 3-bladed composite prop would add some nice climb performance to the CJ with > a Housai. I thought I saw a 4-blade design on the web site from the folks > who are still making the CJ. > > Craig > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=191940#191940 > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:57 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Different Props for Housai From: "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" At those kind of prices for engines, we can buy a surplus aircraft, take the engine and part out the plane and be ahead of the game. Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192044#192044 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:23 PM PST US From: "doug sapp" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Different Props for Housai Craig, You can buy a surplus aircraft with a 0 time engines? I can't find them for around 40K? 50K maybe. Most of the aircraft imported latley are timed out by Chinese standards, engine 500 hours, and airframe @ 3800 to 4000 hours. If you want a 500 hour engine there is no need to go to all that bother, they are all over the US for 3-4K. No unfortunatly the days of the 10K 285 is long gone. If you can buy one for 15 to 18K take my advice and do it, 2 years or less you will thank me. M14P's are pushing 25K and the rmb is still gaining strength aginst the dollar. They are talking about par by Christmas, you do the math. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Craig Winkelmann, CFI wrote: > > > > At those kind of prices for engines, we can buy a surplus aircraft, take > the engine and part out the plane and be ahead of the game. > > Craig > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192044#192044 > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.