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2. 12:58 PM - Re: News from Russia (Dee Conger)
3. 06:04 PM - Anybody have a CJ Near Raleigh, NC (Craig Winkelmann, CFI)
4. 10:08 PM - Cameras and helicopters (Jerry Painter)
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| Subject: | Re: News from Russia |
Richard,
Doug Sapp here. Recently I purchased several M14B engines (AN-14), each was
equiped with a mount ring which was not of the normal tubular type
construction, but is it flat stock and appears to be solid metal. The
attach points where the mount legs attach are "eye bolts" rather than a
welded on tab. It was suggested to me that these may be the same as used on
the suk? Can you please look at the photos and give me your opinion?
Best from here.
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Richard Goode <
richard.goode@russianaeros.com> wrote:
> I have just returned from Russia and thought that Russian aircraft Owners
> might be interested in a variety of developments:
>
> *Yak-54*
>
> The Yak-54 had a total of seventeen aircraft made at the Saratov factory,
> and production has, over the last year been moved to the Arsenyev factory in
> Russian Far East. Five aircraft have now been made at Arsenyev and are for
> sale. Ex factory price is Euro 200,000 - say US $310,000! The aircraft
> however has full certification in Russia, and now has a "Lifetime" of 2,000
> hours.
>
> Apparently factory capacity is twenty/thirty aircraft are year, but I
> suspect that the market capacity is far less.
>
> Also Arsenyev are finally producing some Service Bulletins for Yak-54s
> which are not dissimilar to those of 59 and 60 on Yak-52 for wing mountings,
> as well as strengthening of stabilisers.
>
> *Yak-52*
>
> Yakovlev and the military manufacturing unit at Kubinka near Moscow have
> made three Yak-52M aircraft. These are effectively 52s, but with the
> Zvesda extraction seats; 260 litres of fuel; 400hp; 3-blade (Russian) MT
> props and a bubble canopy.
>
> We were told that one hundred aircraft were to be made, but that does not
> seem to be happening.
>
> *Yak-152*
>
> This is an interesting deal, since it is being done on a 50/50 basis with
> the Chinese government.
>
> The aircraft has been improved in a number of small aerodynamic ways, but
> principally through a fully retracting undercarriage (inwards), but
> otherwise as the 52M.
>
> It is having a Chinese 3-blade prop of their own design.
>
> The Chinese have, as part of the deal, taken three 400hp M14PF engines, but
> the Russian view is that they will be using this to copy and manufacture
> their own engines.
>
> I understand this is intended to be a major production for China -
> presumably it will end up replacing all CJ6 aircraft.
>
> The first prototype will be manufactured by the end of this year, and fly
> early next.
>
> Clearly the performance is greatly enhanced - maximum level speed is
> calculated 370kph.
>
> *Yak-58T*
>
> Some might remember the original Yak-58 which was a 6-seat, M14P engined,
> but "pusher" aircraft. In my own view the design was basically good, but
> the prototype stalled on approach to the Berlin Air Show a number of years
> ago and crashed, which seemingly stopped the programme. However recent
> news is that testing has recommenced on two remaining aircraft.
>
> However for some reason, Yak have used the same number for a totally
> different number for the 58T. This is a 6-seat 18T development, in which
> it is intended either to use these Centurion 350hp diesel or the Mistral
> 350hp rotary engine.
>
> It is a 6-seater, considerably sleeker and seemingly more streamlined than
> the 18T. They have funding to make some prototypes, but whether this is a
> serious and long-term project I cannot say.
>
> I can send drawings and details directly to anyone who might be interested.
>
>
> *Yak-18T production*
>
> As I have written before the Russian Minister of Transport placed an order
> for sixty 18T aircraft with the Smolensk factory.
>
> It would seem that Smolensk are being fairly efficient, and almost on
> schedule with twenty-two aircraft made, but they are having major problems
> with engine deliveries. These aircraft have an all-Garmin cockpit with 530
> GNS; American horizon etc. The propeller is the 3-blade metal Avia prop made
> in Czech Republic, but note that the Avia factory is now owned by MT.
>
> The M14P factory is having major problems to produce these engines for the
> new 18Ts. The view currently is that engines are roughly one-third
> "new-old stock"; one-third totally new parts; one third overhauled parts.
>
> Engine rebuilders in various places around the world have been obtaining
> parts over the last five / six years from the "back-door" of the factory,
> and apparently FSB (new KGB) have been called in and I hear that the
> back-door is firmly closed.
>
> Vedeneyev however are saying that the Russian government is expecting no
> less than 2,000 engines to be built over the next fifteen years, but
> everyone is looking pessimistic and says that this will never happen.
>
> *Yak-55*
>
> There have been rumours of a Service Bulletin for wing mountings on the
> 55. Like many things in Russia this is somewhat confused, but the latest
> information is that there is a "Manufacturers Directive" but not a formal
> Service Bulletin. This involves replacing the wing mountings on the wings
> themselves, but not the corresponding fuselage mountings. It gives a
> further 250 hours, and then again needs to be repeated. I suspect that,
> since it is not mandatory, this is not so important, but if I were a 55
> owner I would make repetitive crack-tests of wing mountings on a regular
> basis.
>
> *Carburettors*
>
> All carburettors were made at a prison factory outside Perm. Rumours that
> I had heard over the last couple of years are now substantiated, and the
> prison has been closed - indeed demolished. I suspect it unlikely that
> there will be new carburettors for the future.
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Herefordshire
> HR5 3LW
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129
> www.russianaeros.com
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
Phone 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
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| Subject: | News from Russia |
How much does that boat anchor weigh?
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: News from Russia
Richard,
Doug Sapp here. Recently I purchased several M14B engines (AN-14), each
was equiped with a mount ring which was not of the normal tubular type
construction, but is it flat stock and appears to be solid metal. The
attach points where the mount legs attach are "eye bolts" rather than a
welded on tab. It was suggested to me that these may be the same as
used on the suk? Can you please look at the photos and give me your
opinion?
Best from here.
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Richard Goode
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com> wrote:
I have just returned from Russia and thought that Russian aircraft
Owners might be interested in a variety of developments:
Yak-54
The Yak-54 had a total of seventeen aircraft made at the Saratov
factory, and production has, over the last year been moved to the
Arsenyev factory in Russian Far East. Five aircraft have now been made
at Arsenyev and are for sale. Ex factory price is Euro 200,000 - say
US $310,000! The aircraft however has full certification in Russia,
and now has a "Lifetime" of 2,000 hours.
Apparently factory capacity is twenty/thirty aircraft are year, but I
suspect that the market capacity is far less.
Also Arsenyev are finally producing some Service Bulletins for Yak-54s
which are not dissimilar to those of 59 and 60 on Yak-52 for wing
mountings, as well as strengthening of stabilisers.
Yak-52
Yakovlev and the military manufacturing unit at Kubinka near Moscow have
made three Yak-52M aircraft. These are effectively 52s, but with the
Zvesda extraction seats; 260 litres of fuel; 400hp; 3-blade (Russian) MT
props and a bubble canopy.
We were told that one hundred aircraft were to be made, but that does
not seem to be happening.
Yak-152
This is an interesting deal, since it is being done on a 50/50 basis
with the Chinese government.
The aircraft has been improved in a number of small aerodynamic ways,
but principally through a fully retracting undercarriage (inwards), but
otherwise as the 52M.
It is having a Chinese 3-blade prop of their own design.
The Chinese have, as part of the deal, taken three 400hp M14PF engines,
but the Russian view is that they will be using this to copy and
manufacture their own engines.
I understand this is intended to be a major production for China -
presumably it will end up replacing all CJ6 aircraft.
The first prototype will be manufactured by the end of this year, and
fly early next.
Clearly the performance is greatly enhanced - maximum level speed is
calculated 370kph.
Yak-58T
Some might remember the original Yak-58 which was a 6-seat, M14P
engined, but "pusher" aircraft. In my own view the design was
basically good, but the prototype stalled on approach to the Berlin Air
Show a number of years ago and crashed, which seemingly stopped the
programme. However recent news is that testing has recommenced on two
remaining aircraft.
However for some reason, Yak have used the same number for a totally
different number for the 58T. This is a 6-seat 18T development, in
which it is intended either to use these Centurion 350hp diesel or the
Mistral 350hp rotary engine.
It is a 6-seater, considerably sleeker and seemingly more streamlined
than the 18T. They have funding to make some prototypes, but whether
this is a serious and long-term project I cannot say.
I can send drawings and details directly to anyone who might be
interested.
Yak-18T production
As I have written before the Russian Minister of Transport placed an
order for sixty 18T aircraft with the Smolensk factory.
It would seem that Smolensk are being fairly efficient, and almost on
schedule with twenty-two aircraft made, but they are having major
problems with engine deliveries. These aircraft have an all-Garmin
cockpit with 530 GNS; American horizon etc. The propeller is the 3-blade
metal Avia prop made in Czech Republic, but note that the Avia factory
is now owned by MT.
The M14P factory is having major problems to produce these engines for
the new 18Ts. The view currently is that engines are roughly
one-third "new-old stock"; one-third totally new parts; one third
overhauled parts.
Engine rebuilders in various places around the world have been obtaining
parts over the last five / six years from the "back-door" of the
factory, and apparently FSB (new KGB) have been called in and I hear
that the back-door is firmly closed.
Vedeneyev however are saying that the Russian government is expecting no
less than 2,000 engines to be built over the next fifteen years, but
everyone is looking pessimistic and says that this will never happen.
Yak-55
There have been rumours of a Service Bulletin for wing mountings on the
55. Like many things in Russia this is somewhat confused, but the
latest information is that there is a "Manufacturers Directive" but not
a formal Service Bulletin. This involves replacing the wing mountings
on the wings themselves, but not the corresponding fuselage mountings.
It gives a further 250 hours, and then again needs to be repeated. I
suspect that, since it is not mandatory, this is not so important, but
if I were a 55 owner I would make repetitive crack-tests of wing
mountings on a regular basis.
Carburettors
All carburettors were made at a prison factory outside Perm. Rumours
that I had heard over the last couple of years are now substantiated,
and the prison has been closed - indeed demolished. I suspect it
unlikely that there will be new carburettors for the future.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129
www.russianaeros.com <http://www.russianaeros.com/>
--
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
Phone 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
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| Subject: | Anybody have a CJ Near Raleigh, NC |
I have a friend who is considering buying a CJ. He's flown in a 52 and now wants
to fly a CJ. Anybody close to Raleigh, NC who would take him up for a flight?
Craig
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192200#192200
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| Subject: | Cameras and helicopters |
FWIW I've never flown a TD but have a few hours in TW's. I prefer the air
brakes on standard -52's and CJ's (Clevelands on W's and TW's are perfectly
fine, too, though the bigger Russian/Chinese tires roll much easier, have
never experienced fade though I believe the stories), think a camera(s) is a
fine idea for supplemental forward vision, especially for the back seat,
which is practically blind except behind the wing, but no substitute for
eyeballs. Then go slow, go slower, go still slower, and even slower yet,
like waaaaaaaaay, waaaaaaaaaaaaaay, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay slow on
narrow taxiways... Especially if a ditch is close by.
Also FWIW knew a guy years ago who taxied his P-51 into a helicopter tail
boom--some folks have no sense of humor about things like that--especially
insurance companies. Go figure. Sounds like a perfectly good idea to me
(chopping off helicopter tail booms). Just kidding. Sort of. Cost him his
P-51 tho--shoulda gotta bounty. Still kidding. Sort of. Good riddance SSH
Not kidding.
Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
425-876-0865
JP@FlyWBA.com
www.FlyWBA.com
PS
I have a really nice TW for sale--see my web site.
PPS
Budd--did Jim Bourke touch base with you?
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