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1. 08:50 AM - Re: News from Russia (Robert Schwartz)
2. 09:18 AM - Re: News from Russia (Dale)
3. 10:27 AM - Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Tim Gagnon)
4. 10:54 AM - Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Joe Enzminger)
5. 10:54 AM - Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Tim Gagnon)
6. 11:00 AM - Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Tim Gagnon)
7. 01:59 PM - Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Joe Enzminger)
8. 02:12 PM - Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Roger Kemp MD)
9. 02:30 PM - Re: Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Roger Kemp MD)
10. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
11. 03:06 PM - Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Kregg Victory)
12. 03:32 PM - Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Tim Gagnon)
13. 04:24 PM - Re: Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Kregg Victory)
14. 04:57 PM - Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Tim Gagnon)
15. 05:13 PM - Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... (Tim Gagnon)
16. 06:28 PM - Re: News from Russia (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
17. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: News from Russia (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
18. 09:09 PM - High Idle (Andrew Love)
19. 09:40 PM - Re: High Idle (nc69666@aol.com)
20. 09:41 PM - Re: News from Russia (Dale)
21. 10:21 PM - Re: Re: News from Russia (Walter Lannon)
22. 10:25 PM - Re: High Idle (Royden Heays)
23. 10:45 PM - Re: News from Russia (Dale)
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Subject: | Re: News from Russia |
=0AI want to power some avionics as well as landing light, strobes and some
other extras in my YAK 52. I'm looking for some battery recommendations. I
'm not as interested in the price as in something that will provide plenty
of power to run the extras, even if there was a Gen failure.- Suggestions
?- 24 volt or--- 2--- 12 volt options-- Ill look at eithe
r=0A-=0Athanks-- bob=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom
: Dee Conger <dee@innoviveinc.com>=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu
rsday, July 10, 2008 2:53:24 PM=0ASubject: RE: Yak-List: News from Russia
=0A=0A=0AHow much does that boat anchor weigh?=0A-=0AFrom:owner-yak-list-
server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf
Of doug sapp=0ASent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:24 PM=0ATo: yak-list@matro
nics.com=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: News from Russia=0A-=0ARichard,=0ADoug
Sapp here.- Recently I purchased several M14B engines (AN-14), each was e
quiped with a mount ring which was not of the normal tubular type construct
ion, but is it flat stock and appears to be solid metal.- The attach poin
ts where the mount legs attach are "eye bolts" rather than a welded on tab.
- It was suggested to me that these may be the same as used on the suk?
- Can you please look at the photos and give me your opinion?=0A-=0ABes
t from here.=0A-=0A=0A=0A-=0AOn Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Richard Go
ode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> wrote:=0AI have just returned from Rus
sia and thought that Russian aircraft Owners might be interested in a varie
ty of developments:=0A-=0AYak-54=0A-=0AThe Yak-54 had a total of sevent
een aircraft made at the Saratov factory, and production has, over the last
year been moved to the Arsenyev factory in Russian Far East.-- Five ai
rcraft have now been made at Arsenyev and are for sale.---- Ex fact
ory price is Euro 200,000 - say US $310,000!-- The aircraft however has
full certification in Russia, and now has a "Lifetime" of 2,000 hours.-
=0A-=0AApparently factory capacity is twenty/thirty aircraft are year, bu
t I suspect that the market capacity is far less. =0A-=0AAlso Arsenyev ar
e finally producing some Service Bulletins for Yak-54s which are not dissim
ilar to those of 59 and 60 on Yak-52 for wing mountings, as well as strengt
hening of stabilisers.- =0A-=0AYak-52=0A-=0AYakovlev and the military
manufacturing unit-at Kubinka near Moscow have made three Yak-52M aircra
ft.-- These are effectively 52s, but with the Zvesda extraction seats;
260 litres of fuel; 400hp; 3-blade (Russian) MT props and a bubble canopy.
- =0A-=0AWe were told that one hundred aircraft were to be made, but th
at does not seem to be happening. =0A-=0AYak-152=0A-=0AThis is an inter
esting deal, since it is being done on a 50/50 basis with the Chinese gover
nment. =0A-=0AThe aircraft has been improved in a number of small aerodyn
amic ways, but principally through a fully retracting undercarriage (inward
s), but otherwise as the 52M.-- =0A-=0AIt is having a Chinese 3-blade
prop of their own design. =0A-=0AThe Chinese have, as part of the deal,
taken three 400hp M14PF engines, but the Russian view is that they will be
using this to copy and manufacture their own engines.-- =0A-=0AI unde
rstand this is intended to be a major production for China - presumably it
will end up replacing all CJ6 aircraft. =0A-=0AThe first prototype will b
e manufactured by the end of this year, and fly early next. =0A-=0AClearl
y the performance is greatly enhanced - maximum level speed is calculated 3
70kph.- =0A=0AYak-58T=0A-=0ASome might remember the original Yak-58 whi
ch was a 6-seat, M14P engined, but "pusher" aircraft.-- In my own view
the design was basically good, but the prototype stalled on approach to the
Berlin Air Show a number of years ago and crashed, which seemingly stopped
the programme.-- However recent news is that testing has recommenced o
n two remaining aircraft. =0A-=0AHowever for some reason, Yak have used t
he same number for- a totally different number for the 58T.-- This is
a 6-seat 18T development, in which it is intended either to use these Cent
urion 350hp diesel or the Mistral 350hp rotary engine. =0A-=0AIt is a 6-s
eater, considerably sleeker and seemingly more streamlined than the 18T.-
- They have funding to make some prototypes, but whether this is a seriou
s and long-term project I cannot say. =0A-=0AI can send drawings and deta
ils directly to anyone who might be interested. =0A-=0AYak-18T- product
ion=0A-=0AAs I have written before the Russian Minister of Transport plac
ed an order for sixty 18T aircraft with the Smolensk factory.-- =0A-
=0AIt would seem that Smolensk are being fairly efficient, and almost on sc
hedule with twenty-two aircraft made, but they are having major problems wi
th engine deliveries.-- These aircraft have an all-Garmin cockpit with
530 GNS; American horizon etc. The propeller is the 3-blade metal Avia prop
made in Czech Republic, but note that the Avia factory is now owned by MT.
- =0A-=0AThe M14P factory is having major problems to produce these eng
ines for the new 18Ts.-- The- view currently is that engines are roug
hly one-third "new-old stock"; one-third totally new parts; one third overh
auled parts. =0A-=0AEngine rebuilders in various places around the world
have been obtaining parts over the last five / six years from the "back-doo
r" of the factory, and apparently FSB (new KGB) have been called in and I h
ear that the back-door is firmly closed. =0A-=0AVedeneyev however are say
ing that the Russian government is expecting no less than 2,000 engines to
be built over the next fifteen years, but everyone is looking pessimistic a
nd says that this will never happen. =0A-=0AYak-55=0A-=0AThere have bee
n rumours of a Service Bulletin for wing mountings on the 55.- Like many
things in Russia this is somewhat confused, but the latest information is t
hat there is a "Manufacturers Directive" but not a formal Service Bulletin.
-- This involves replacing the wing mountings on the wings themselves,
but not the corresponding fuselage mountings.-- It gives a further 250
hours, and then again needs to be repeated.-- I suspect that, since it
is not mandatory, this is not so important, but if I were a 55 owner I woul
d make repetitive crack-tests of wing mountings on a regular basis. =0A-
=0ACarburettors=0A-=0AAll carburettors were made at a prison factory outs
ide Perm.- Rumours that I had heard over the last couple of years are now
substantiated, and the prison has been closed - indeed demolished.-- I
suspect it unlikely that there will be new carburettors for the future.
=0A-=0ARichard Goode Aerobatics =0ARhodds Farm =0ALyonshall=0AHerefordshi
re=0AHR5 3LW =0AUnited Kingdom=0A-=0ATel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120=0AFax: +44
(0) 1544 340 129 =0Awww.russianaeros.com=0A -=0A -=0A -=0A=0A=0A=0A-
- =0AAlways Yakin,=0ADoug Sapp=0APhone 509-826-4610=0AFax 509-826-3644 =0A
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Subject: | Re: News from Russia |
Just do the 24V , no battery balance problems sucking off each other.
delfin_driver(at)yahoo.co wrote:
> I want to power some avionics as well as landing light, strobes and some other
extras in my YAK 52. I'm looking for some battery recommendations. I'm not as
interested in the price as in something that will provide plenty of power to
run the extras, even if there was a Gen failure. Suggestions? 24 volt or
2 12 volt options Ill look at either
>
> thanks bob
>
>
>
> ---
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Subject: | Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
Folks,
I have been working on getting something going with this company for awhile and
I was finally successful! Most who have camera systems on their airplane know
the wiring is a nightmare and the whole set-up is a bit bulky. This thing is
NOT!
I was looking for something as well for a military application and found this company.
The POV was originally part of a project with the Army Research Lab so
the thing is "mil-spec".
Check it out.....
http://www.vio-pov.com/
I am looking at placing an order in the next week or so. If there is enough interest,
I will place a bulk order and they can drop ship it directly to you! As
for pricing, I am still working on that but I can GUARANTEE it will not be list
or anything close to that.
So, who is interested?
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Subject: | Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
I can vouch for it. I use it and built a helmet mount with a bayonet fitting for
my HGU-33. The whole system is "wearable", so nothing tangles up if you ever
had to egress in a hurry - the camera/recorder just comes with you (which would
make for an interesting video).
What I'd really like to find is a multi-channel digital video recorder that could
record from three or four cameras to an SD card or hard drive. Anyone have
a lead on what might work in an airplane (the commercial systems are all pretty
heavy and have prohibitive power requirements).
Joe Enzminger
N700YK
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Subject: | Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
By the way, if you are going to email me, use this address:
TimsMisc (@) msn.com
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Subject: | Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
Joe,
Can you post some video? I am going to visit the local Viper unit and see if they
will test thing out and put some G's on it. I might even ask if I can ride
along!!!! After that, I am going to strap it to the GAU-2 mini-gun when we go
the range to see if can handle the vibration of a 6-barrel mini-gun spewing fire
and death!
It also comes with a picatinny mount for you shooters. I will put it on my M-4
and see how that goes too!
We will see if it is truly mil-spec.
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Subject: | Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
Tim,
I'll try to throw some video up on Youtube in the next few days. However, I'm
going to have to insist that I be allowed to do any inflight testing, especially
if it involves the backseat of an F-16.
I've run with the camera mounted on the glareshield and the recorder literally
sitting on the panel behind the main air valve and have had no vibration problems.
The video quality is very good.
Joe
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Subject: | Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
Had seen this earlier when I was looking for a camera to mount in the YAK.
If you can get it for less than $699 plus shipping, I'm interested.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:25 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect......
Folks,
I have been working on getting something going with this company for awhile
and I was finally successful! Most who have camera systems on their airplane
know the wiring is a nightmare and the whole set-up is a bit bulky. This
thing is NOT!
I was looking for something as well for a military application and found
this company. The POV was originally part of a project with the Army
Research Lab so the thing is "mil-spec".
Check it out.....
http://www.vio-pov.com/
I am looking at placing an order in the next week or so. If there is enough
interest, I will place a bulk order and they can drop ship it directly to
you! As for pricing, I am still working on that but I can GUARANTEE it will
not be list or anything close to that.
So, who is interested?
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Subject: | Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
No civilian cameras allowed in the Viper. Sorry....FOD and all that you
know. ;>().
Doc
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joe Enzminger
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:57 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect......
<panchoandlefty2002@yahoo.com>
Tim,
I'll try to throw some video up on Youtube in the next few days. However,
I'm going to have to insist that I be allowed to do any inflight testing,
especially if it involves the backseat of an F-16.
I've run with the camera mounted on the glareshield and the recorder
literally sitting on the panel behind the main air valve and have had no
vibration problems. The video quality is very good.
Joe
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Subject: | Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
No... The real answer is: "Sorry, this is the Airforce. If you want to
do something logical and neat such as that, you really want to go see
the Marines or the Navy. Shoot... Maybe even the Army!"
:-)
Mark Bitterlich
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp MD
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:25 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect......
--> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
No civilian cameras allowed in the Viper. Sorry....FOD and all that you
know. ;>().
Doc
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joe Enzminger
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:57 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect......
<panchoandlefty2002@yahoo.com>
Tim,
I'll try to throw some video up on Youtube in the next few days.
However, I'm going to have to insist that I be allowed to do any
inflight testing, especially if it involves the backseat of an F-16.
I've run with the camera mounted on the glareshield and the recorder
literally sitting on the panel behind the main air valve and have had no
vibration problems. The video quality is very good.
Joe
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Subject: | Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
I am a dealer for VIO. I can get them to you for $595.00 If you want one
contact me directly.
Kregg Victory
408-836-5122
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp MD
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:10 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect......
Had seen this earlier when I was looking for a camera to mount in the YAK.
If you can get it for less than $699 plus shipping, I'm interested.
Doc
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:25 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect......
Folks,
I have been working on getting something going with this company for awhile
and I was finally successful! Most who have camera systems on their airplane
know the wiring is a nightmare and the whole set-up is a bit bulky. This
thing is NOT!
I was looking for something as well for a military application and found
this company. The POV was originally part of a project with the Army
Research Lab so the thing is "mil-spec".
Check it out.....
http://www.vio-pov.com/
I am looking at placing an order in the next week or so. If there is enough
interest, I will place a bulk order and they can drop ship it directly to
you! As for pricing, I am still working on that but I can GUARANTEE it will
not be list or anything close to that.
So, who is interested?
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Subject: | Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
I was going to ask less but if you are getting $600.00, then I maybe I will too.
Nope..still will be asking less...much less.
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Subject: | Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
Have fun
K
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:30 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect......
I was going to ask less but if you are getting $600.00, then I maybe I will
too.
Nope..still will be asking less...much less.
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Subject: | Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
I have some people here on base interested so I am going to place an order this
week. Drop me a note and I will give you some pricing and some details.
TimsMisc@msn.com
The original reason behind pursuing this camera was to make it available (cheaply)
for another project I am working on with someone else that has a military
flavor.
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Subject: | Re: Helmet Cam, On board Camera...ect...... |
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CvsTkT20n7A
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Subject: | News from Russia |
The stock YAK-52 Generator, if properly cooled, will handle 100 amps at
28 volts, or roughly 3KW, which is enough to power most tactical jet
aircraft. So, that said.... You have plenty of generator power
available for most anything you want.
Battery: One 24 or two 12's, makes no difference really unless you put
a pickup off of one 12 volt battery for something that needs 12 volts.
That's a big no-no, when it comes to battery life. Assuming you are not
doing that, it simply becomes a matter of converting all of your power
requirements to amps, and then looking at battery AMP-HOUR ratings. In
the end, it really is not so much a matter of price, but of WEIGHT.
So... It comes back to you to answer some questions:
1. You are not going to lose your generator and then start out on a
cross country. So just how long do you need the battery to last?
Obviously not much more than an hour I would think.
2. Once you lose your generator, you are going to turn off everything
that you can that is unnecessary. So what you want to do here is to
first get all this stuff INSTALLED that you are planning on, and then
either using the crude built in ammeter in the YAK, or better yet,
borrowing a good ammeter from a friend, hook it in series with the main
battery lead and then start turning each and everything you have on and
off and recording the current draw. After that is done, turn on just
the things you would need in the daytime, and then again just what you
would need at night. Record the amps!
Let's say that you draw 20 amps with everything you want turned on. A
battery with a 10 amp/hour rating would last ROUGHLY 30 minutes under
that load. The math as you can see is simple. Of course there are
other factors such as declining voltage, etc., etc, but this at least
puts you in the ball park.
My list would be external lights, internal lights (as few as possible
and think of converting to LED's), transponder, radio and GPS. The
biggest draw there would be your transponder. Second the lights.
Personally, I carry a really good LED flashlight and a handheld radio
with built in VOR that connects to the headset. I have about a 12 amp
hour battery at 28 volts, which went for 2 hours one time when I flew my
YAK-50 home without a generator working. But... I shut EVERYTHING else
off. Even engine gages. I don't fly at night, so I can not compute
those current draws for you, but they are not going to be over a few
amps, except for the landing light which will suck the current down big
time. But then... You'll only be using it for a few minutes at most.
More than likely, a stock YAK-52 battery would do the job.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Schwartz
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: News from Russia
I want to power some avionics as well as landing light, strobes and some
other extras in my YAK 52. I'm looking for some battery recommendations.
I'm not as interested in the price as in something that will provide
plenty of power to run the extras, even if there was a Gen failure.
Suggestions? 24 volt or 2 12 volt options Ill look at either
thanks bob
----- Original Message ----
From: Dee Conger <dee@innoviveinc.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:53:24 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: News from Russia
How much does that boat anchor weigh?
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: News from Russia
Richard,
Doug Sapp here. Recently I purchased several M14B engines (AN-14), each
was equiped with a mount ring which was not of the normal tubular type
construction, but is it flat stock and appears to be solid metal. The
attach points where the mount legs attach are "eye bolts" rather than a
welded on tab. It was suggested to me that these may be the same as
used on the suk? Can you please look at the photos and give me your
opinion?
Best from here.
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Richard Goode
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com> wrote:
I have just returned from Russia and thought that Russian aircraft
Owners might be interested in a variety of developments:
Yak-54
The Yak-54 had a total of seventeen aircraft made at the Saratov
factory, and production has, over the last year been moved to the
Arsenyev factory in Russian Far East. Five aircraft have now been made
at Arsenyev and are for sale. Ex factory price is Euro 200,000 - say
US $310,000! The aircraft however has full certification in Russia,
and now has a "Lifetime" of 2,000 hours.
Apparently factory capacity is twenty/thirty aircraft are year, but I
suspect that the market capacity is far less.
Also Arsenyev are finally producing some Service Bulletins for Yak-54s
which are not dissimilar to those of 59 and 60 on Yak-52 for wing
mountings, as well as strengthening of stabilisers.
Yak-52
Yakovlev and the military manufacturing unit at Kubinka near Moscow have
made three Yak-52M aircraft. These are effectively 52s, but with the
Zvesda extraction seats; 260 litres of fuel; 400hp; 3-blade (Russian) MT
props and a bubble canopy.
We were told that one hundred aircraft were to be made, but that does
not seem to be happening.
Yak-152
This is an interesting deal, since it is being done on a 50/50 basis
with the Chinese government.
The aircraft has been improved in a number of small aerodynamic ways,
but principally through a fully retracting undercarriage (inwards), but
otherwise as the 52M.
It is having a Chinese 3-blade prop of their own design.
The Chinese have, as part of the deal, taken three 400hp M14PF engines,
but the Russian view is that they will be using this to copy and
manufacture their own engines.
I understand this is intended to be a major production for China -
presumably it will end up replacing all CJ6 aircraft.
The first prototype will be manufactured by the end of this year, and
fly early next.
Clearly the performance is greatly enhanced - maximum level speed is
calculated 370kph.
Yak-58T
Some might remember the original Yak-58 which was a 6-seat, M14P
engined, but "pusher" aircraft. In my own view the design was
basically good, but the prototype stalled on approach to the Berlin Air
Show a number of years ago and crashed, which seemingly stopped the
programme. However recent news is that testing has recommenced on two
remaining aircraft.
However for some reason, Yak have used the same number for a totally
different number for the 58T. This is a 6-seat 18T development, in
which it is intended either to use these Centurion 350hp diesel or the
Mistral 350hp rotary engine.
It is a 6-seater, considerably sleeker and seemingly more streamlined
than the 18T. They have funding to make some prototypes, but whether
this is a serious and long-term project I cannot say.
I can send drawings and details directly to anyone who might be
interested.
Yak-18T production
As I have written before the Russian Minister of Transport placed an
order for sixty 18T aircraft with the Smolensk factory.
It would seem that Smolensk are being fairly efficient, and almost on
schedule with twenty-two aircraft made, but they are having major
problems with engine deliveries. These aircraft have an all-Garmin
cockpit with 530 GNS; American horizon etc. The propeller is the 3-blade
metal Avia prop made in Czech Republic, but note that the Avia factory
is now owned by MT.
The M14P factory is having major problems to produce these engines for
the new 18Ts. The view currently is that engines are roughly
one-third "new-old stock"; one-third totally new parts; one third
overhauled parts.
Engine rebuilders in various places around the world have been obtaining
parts over the last five / six years from the "back-door" of the
factory, and apparently FSB (new KGB) have been called in and I hear
that the back-door is firmly closed.
Vedeneyev however are saying that the Russian government is expecting no
less than 2,000 engines to be built over the next fifteen years, but
everyone is looking pessimistic and says that this will never happen.
Yak-55
There have been rumours of a Service Bulletin for wing mountings on the
55. Like many things in Russia this is somewhat confused, but the
latest information is that there is a "Manufacturers Directive" but not
a formal Service Bulletin. This involves replacing the wing mountings
on the wings themselves, but not the corresponding fuselage mountings.
It gives a further 250 hours, and then again needs to be repeated. I
suspect that, since it is not mandatory, this is not so important, but
if I were a 55 owner I would make repetitive crack-tests of wing
mountings on a regular basis.
Carburettors
All carburettors were made at a prison factory outside Perm. Rumours
that I had heard over the last couple of years are now substantiated,
and the prison has been closed - indeed demolished. I suspect it
unlikely that there will be new carburettors for the future.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129
www.russianaeros.com <http://www.russianaeros.com/>
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Subject: | Re: News from Russia |
Actually Dale, there are no battery balance problems at all unless you
hook a wire to just one of the two batteries in series and use it to
power some 12 volt device. THAT is when you will get into balance
problems.
For example, what is the difference between one 24 volt battery and two
12 volt batteries connected in series?
Nothing, except the piece of wire connecting the two 12 volt batteries
together is external instead of internal on the 24 volt battery.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: News from Russia
Just do the 24V , no battery balance problems sucking off each other.
delfin_driver(at)yahoo.co wrote:
> I want to power some avionics as well as landing light, strobes and
some other extras in my YAK 52. I'm looking for some battery
recommendations. I'm not as interested in the price as in something that
will provide plenty of power to run the extras, even if there was a Gen
failure. Suggestions? 24 volt or 2 12 volt options Ill look at
either
>
> thanks bob
>
>
>
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Hi folks=2C
A few issues with high idle on our M14P at the moment - it was running fine
over the weekend=2C but another pilot went to do some flying this morning
=2C and found it wouldn't idle below 34%=2C any ideas?
Andrew Love
Contract Pilot
NZCPL (A)Queenstown
New Zealand
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818 816
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Hi Andrew, Gary Gabbard here, CJ N22YK.. A few years ago I had the same thing happen,
It turned out to be a intake leak, one of the three induction intake tube
drain fittings had snapped off at the elbow where it screwed into the intake
tube. Idled at about 36%, fixed leak, and it went back to normal idle speed..So
the first thing I would do is look for a induction leak...? Good Hunting...
Gary
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From: Andrew Love <torque_roll@hotmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 9:06 pm
Subject: Yak-List: High Idle
Hi folks,
?
A few issues with high idle on our M14P at the moment - it was running fine over
the weekend, but another pilot went to do some flying this morning, and found
it wouldn't idle below 34%, any ideas?
?
Andrew Love
?
Contract Pilot
NZCPL (A)
Queenstown
New Zealand
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I had a electrical engineer explain it to me, I use a 24V. Tell me this , when
one battery gets charged up all the way and the other one is slow. Does one
overcharge and the other one that is weak ever charge up? or do you keep overcharging
the strong one until the weak finally get it up. Or just how do you keep
both batteries in square with each other. Oh is it who cares because it is
cheaper to replace the whatever batteries than a aircraft battery. I believe
he ask the question of "money is no object" and being such why bother with two
batteries if that was the case.
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Subject: | Re: News from Russia |
Dale;
I think Mark already covered this. If you have two 12 V batteries connected
in series you, in essence, have one 24V battery as far as the charging
circuit is concerned.
I think the only time you would have unequal charging (other than internal
cell failure) is if you are running a separate 12 V circuit from one of the
batteries.
Walt
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From: "Dale" <hdinamic@qwest.net>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:38 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: News from Russia
>
> I had a electrical engineer explain it to me, I use a 24V. Tell me this ,
> when one battery gets charged up all the way and the other one is slow.
> Does one overcharge and the other one that is weak ever charge up? or do
> you keep overcharging the strong one until the weak finally get it up. Or
> just how do you keep both batteries in square with each other. Oh is it
> who cares because it is cheaper to replace the whatever batteries than a
> aircraft battery. I believe he ask the question of "money is no object"
> and being such why bother with two batteries if that was the case.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192791#192791
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Andrew,
It could also be carb ice. You are into winter down-under and Queenstown
is
more chilly than Auckland. Cold & moist I would think. If you were
running
up at 46% to warm the oil, then pulled the power off, ice in the carb
will
prevent a low idle. Work the throttle a bit and it may clear. If it is
carb
ice, be very wary because if your approach to landing is a low power,
ice
may prevent you from getting the power completely off on rollout. Dicey
if
you have a short runway.
I get the problem in Vancouver, Canada in late fall and early spring
when it
is cold and moist, if I have not reinstalled the heat tubes that feed
into
the back of the carb.
Royden Heays
Kiwi in Canada
Yak 55M
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Love
Sent: 14 Jul 2008 9:07 PM
Subject: Yak-List: High Idle
Hi folks,
A few issues with high idle on our M14P at the moment - it was running
fine
over the weekend, but another pilot went to do some flying this morning,
and
found it wouldn't idle below 34%, any ideas?
Andrew Love
Contract Pilot
NZCPL (A)
Queenstown
New Zealand
P +64 3 451 0396 I F +64 3 342 5189 I M +64
21
818 816
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Subject: | Re: News from Russia |
Walt
your right I'm sorry for posting a response.
Dale
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