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1. 07:44 AM - Re: command push pull cables (Roger Kemp MD)
2. 07:57 AM - Re: command push pull cables (John Cox)
3. 09:59 AM - Re: command push pull cables (Roger Kemp MD)
4. 06:52 PM - Yak CHT Thermocouple (Scott Glaser)
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Subject: | command push pull cables |
Doug,
You found a trained 3 foot monkey with 12" fingers? Is he/she for rent? If
so, how much?!
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Johnson
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: command push pull cables
I have experienced almost complete lockage of the throttle and prop
controls. Could not find any binding in the tubes forward of the front
cockpit controls. The binding was bwtween the front cockpit and rear,
somebody had tightened the control lock in the rear and moving the front
bent the tubes between the two. My advise is to remove the rear control lock
knob.
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp <mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: command push pull cables
Cy,
Most of the time the problem is not with the inner cable assembly, the
problem is caused by the soft copper shield/tube which the cable assembly
runs in. The shield becomes dented or kinked and each dent or kink adds to
the friction placed on the cable, soon it becomes stiff and unusable. If
the dent or kink is within the travel range of the end rods the assembly
qiuckly becomes nearly unusable. The outer shield or tube can be easily
replaced with std copper tubing of the correct size. I built one up from
scratch for the mini yak and I think I used 7/16 copper tubing. If you do
need the cable assembly it's doable by contacting the McFarlane company.
They can swage the SS rods onto the cable but at that time they did not have
the tooling to cut the metric threads on the rod ends.
Like many jobs getting the part out to work on it is 99% percent of the
battle, this one is no different, you will be talking to yourself before you
get the control R&R'd, so do it on a day when you have your midget
contortionist buddy visiting your hanger. Or maybe wait until the circus
comes to town to recruit some help.
Hope this helps.
Always Yakin,
Doug
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Cyrus Kissling <cyco55@comcast.net> wrote:
Has anyone had experience making or buying the push pull cables for
throttle, prop, shutters ect?
--
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
Phone 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/
Navigator?Yak-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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Subject: | command push pull cables |
We have a manufacturer of Cablecraft control cables here in Portland. I
set up Shane Wease of Vintage Aircraft Restoration for those interested
in the 3' monkey removal and replacement system.
John Cox - Bozo the Clown
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp MD
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 7:43 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: command push pull cables
Doug,
You found a trained 3 foot monkey with 12" fingers? Is he/she for rent?
If so, how much?!
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Forrest
Johnson
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: command push pull cables
I have experienced almost complete lockage of the throttle and prop
controls. Could not find any binding in the tubes forward of the front
cockpit controls. The binding was bwtween the front cockpit and rear,
somebody had tightened the control lock in the rear and moving the front
bent the tubes between the two. My advise is to remove the rear control
lock knob.
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp <mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: command push pull cables
Cy,
Most of the time the problem is not with the inner cable
assembly, the problem is caused by the soft copper shield/tube which the
cable assembly runs in. The shield becomes dented or kinked and each
dent or kink adds to the friction placed on the cable, soon it becomes
stiff and unusable. If the dent or kink is within the travel range of
the end rods the assembly qiuckly becomes nearly unusable. The outer
shield or tube can be easily replaced with std copper tubing of the
correct size. I built one up from scratch for the mini yak and I think
I used 7/16 copper tubing. If you do need the cable assembly it's
doable by contacting the McFarlane company. They can swage the SS rods
onto the cable but at that time they did not have the tooling to cut the
metric threads on the rod ends.
Like many jobs getting the part out to work on it is 99% percent
of the battle, this one is no different, you will be talking to yourself
before you get the control R&R'd, so do it on a day when you have your
midget contortionist buddy visiting your hanger. Or maybe wait until
the circus comes to town to recruit some help.
Hope this helps.
Always Yakin,
Doug
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Cyrus Kissling
<cyco55@comcast.net> wrote:
Has anyone had experience making or buying the push pull cables
for throttle, prop, shutters ect?
--
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
Phone 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics
.
com/Navigator?Yak-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | command push pull cables |
John,
Can you provide more info off line?
doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: command push pull cables
We have a manufacturer of Cablecraft control cables here in Portland. I set
up Shane Wease of Vintage Aircraft Restoration for those interested in the
3' monkey removal and replacement system.
John Cox - Bozo the Clown
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp MD
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 7:43 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: command push pull cables
Doug,
You found a trained 3 foot monkey with 12" fingers? Is he/she for rent? If
so, how much?!
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Johnson
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: command push pull cables
I have experienced almost complete lockage of the throttle and prop
controls. Could not find any binding in the tubes forward of the front
cockpit controls. The binding was bwtween the front cockpit and rear,
somebody had tightened the control lock in the rear and moving the front
bent the tubes between the two. My advise is to remove the rear control lock
knob.
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp <mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: command push pull cables
Cy,
Most of the time the problem is not with the inner cable assembly, the
problem is caused by the soft copper shield/tube which the cable assembly
runs in. The shield becomes dented or kinked and each dent or kink adds to
the friction placed on the cable, soon it becomes stiff and unusable. If
the dent or kink is within the travel range of the end rods the assembly
qiuckly becomes nearly unusable. The outer shield or tube can be easily
replaced with std copper tubing of the correct size. I built one up from
scratch for the mini yak and I think I used 7/16 copper tubing. If you do
need the cable assembly it's doable by contacting the McFarlane company.
They can swage the SS rods onto the cable but at that time they did not have
the tooling to cut the metric threads on the rod ends.
Like many jobs getting the part out to work on it is 99% percent of the
battle, this one is no different, you will be talking to yourself before you
get the control R&R'd, so do it on a day when you have your midget
contortionist buddy visiting your hanger. Or maybe wait until the circus
comes to town to recruit some help.
Hope this helps.
Always Yakin,
Doug
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Cyrus Kissling <cyco55@comcast.net> wrote:
Has anyone had experience making or buying the push pull cables for
throttle, prop, shutters ect?
--
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
Phone 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/
Navigator?Yak-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Yak CHT Thermocouple |
Anyone know what type thermocouple is used for the M-14 CHT sensor in a
Yak-52?
Scott
N8252
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