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1. 06:52 AM - Re: Shell smoke oils (Mark Davis)
2. 07:06 AM - Re: Shell smoke oils (John Cox)
3. 07:08 AM - Re: Shell smoke oils (Barry Hancock)
4. 07:16 AM - Re: Shell smoke oils (Budd Davisson)
5. 07:41 AM - Re: Shell smoke oils (Mark Davis)
6. 09:09 AM - Re: Shell smoke oils (Herb Coussons)
7. 09:41 AM - Re: Shell smoke oils (cjpilot710@aol.com)
8. 11:42 AM - Re: Shell smoke oils (Dale)
9. 01:27 PM - Re: Shell smoke oils (Etienne)
10. 02:04 PM - Re: Shell smoke oils (Jerome van der Schaar)
11. 02:46 PM - Re: Shell smoke oils (Don Milbourn)
12. 02:53 PM - Re: Shell smoke oils (Etienne Verhellen)
13. 03:37 PM - Re: Shell smoke oils (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
14. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
15. 04:05 PM - Re: Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units (Frank Stelwagon)
16. 04:11 PM - Re: Shell smoke oils (doug sapp)
17. 05:31 PM - Re: Shell smoke oils (cjpilot710@aol.com)
18. 05:42 PM - Re: Shell smoke oils (cjpilot710@aol.com)
19. 05:42 PM - Re: Shell smoke oils (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
20. 05:49 PM - Re: Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
21. 06:36 PM - Smoke Oil is concrete form oil (vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
22. 06:48 PM - Re: Smoke Oil is concrete form oil (Brian Tallmadge)
23. 07:17 PM - Re: Shell smoke oils (John Cox)
24. 07:20 PM - Re: Shell smoke oils (John Cox)
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| Subject: | Re: Shell smoke oils |
John,
Is there any of the three Shell oils that works better than the
others?
Thanks,
Mark Davis
N44YK
----- Original Message -----
From: John Cox
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Yes, and a great way to obtain some is to contact your local airshow
at the conclusion of activities. They usually don't want to store it
and make it available for a song.
John Cox
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:15 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils mentioned
on smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with the price
of oil down again.
Shell Carnea #10
Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
Shell VITREA 13
Mark Davis
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| Subject: | Shell smoke oils |
My favorite was because the Blues often contractually demanded it.
Corvus. We would have to secure supplies in 55 gal drums and at the end
of a city tour, we would have an odd lot supply of 7 to 30 gallons
surplus. No one wanted to store a partial 55 gallon drum in a hangar
for six months. Flows easy and burns without the brown tint of some
other refractions. They liked the billowy, white result.
John
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
John,
Is there any of the three Shell oils that works better than the
others?
Thanks,
Mark Davis
N44YK
----- Original Message -----
From: John Cox <mailto:johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Yes, and a great way to obtain some is to contact your local
airshow at the conclusion of activities. They usually don't want to
store it and make it available for a song.
John Cox
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:15 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils
mentioned on smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with
the price of oil down again.
Shell Carnea #10
Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
Shell VITREA 13
Mark Davis
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| Subject: | Re: Shell smoke oils |
> Time: 08:16:11 PM PST US
> From: "Mark Davis" <mark@pld.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>
> Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils mentioned
> on smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with the price
> of oil down again.
Mark,
John at Smoking Airplanes is testing a new smoke oil that is mineral oil
based. The early results have been good, according to him. He plans more
testing in cold weather to make sure he gets adequate flow under those
conditions and also wants to insure the injectors don't get fowled. He
says it has good density and hang time due to the high parafin content.
You can contact him directly at smokingairplanes.com
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Barry Hancock
Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
office (909) 606-4444
cell (949) 300-5510
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| Subject: | Re: Shell smoke oils |
Corvus is the smoke standard. Plus it is mostly non-toxic where others
aren=B9t necessarily.
bd
On 10/20/08 7:06 AM, "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
> My favorite was because the Blues often contractually demanded it. Corvu
s.
> We would have to secure supplies in 55 gal drums and at the end of a city
> tour, we would have an odd lot supply of 7 to 30 gallons surplus. No one
> wanted to store a partial 55 gallon drum in a hangar for six months. Flo
ws
> easy and burns without the brown tint of some other refractions. They li
ked
> the billowy, white result.
>
> John
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:52 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>
>
> John,
>
> Is there any of the three Shell oils that works better than the othe
rs?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Davis
>
> N44YK
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: John Cox <mailto:johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>>
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>
>> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:13 AM
>>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>>
>>
>> Yes, and a great way to obtain some is to contact your local airshow at
the
>> conclusion of activities. They usually don't want to store it and make
it
>> available for a song.
>>
>> John Cox
>>
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:15 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils mentioned o
n
>> smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with the price of o
il
>> down again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Shell Carnea #10
>> Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
>>
>> Shell VITREA 13
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>>
>>
>> Mark Davis
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| Subject: | Re: Shell smoke oils |
Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oilsMy son's college roommate and his father
are Shell oil dealers. He told my son Saturday that he can get me a
"deal" on oils. I haven't seen any prices yet, but was curious what
experiences anyone had with the Shell products.
Mark Davis
N44YK
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From: Budd Davisson
To: Yak List
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Corvus is the smoke standard. Plus it is mostly non-toxic where others
aren't necessarily.
bd
On 10/20/08 7:06 AM, "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
My favorite was because the Blues often contractually demanded it.
Corvus. We would have to secure supplies in 55 gal drums and at the end
of a city tour, we would have an odd lot supply of 7 to 30 gallons
surplus. No one wanted to store a partial 55 gallon drum in a hangar
for six months. Flows easy and burns without the brown tint of some
other refractions. They liked the billowy, white result.
John
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:52 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
John,
Is there any of the three Shell oils that works better than the
others?
Thanks,
Mark Davis
N44YK
----- Original Message -----
From: John Cox <mailto:johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Yes, and a great way to obtain some is to contact your local
airshow at the conclusion of activities. They usually don't want to
store it and make it available for a song.
John Cox
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:15 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils
mentioned on smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with
the price of oil down again.
Shell Carnea #10
Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
Shell VITREA 13
Mark Davis
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| Subject: | Re: Shell smoke oils |
Agree - Corvus
I have used a whole barrel of Vitrea 13 without problems in a
smokongplanes system.
I just picked up a barrel for cheap after a local air show got rained
out.
Herb
On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils
> mentioned on smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again
> with the price of oil down again.
>
> Shell Carnea #10
> Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
> Shell VITREA 13
>
> Mark Davis
> N44YK
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Shell smoke oils |
In a message dated 10/20/2008 12:10:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
drc@wscare.com writes:
I've used 10 weight turbine oil. I was able to get it for free. How? At
jet engine overhaul shops with test cells, after a test run, the oil that was
used in the engine is drained and never used again. It is "filtered" in the
normal course of things but the feds require it not to be used again.
Companies normally pay someone to come and get rid of it.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Agree - Corvus
I have used a whole barrel of Vitrea 13 without problems in a smokongplanes
system.
I just picked up a barrel for cheap after a local air show got rained out.
Herb
On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils mentioned on
smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with the price of oil down
again.
Shell Carnea #10
Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
Shell VITREA 13
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| Subject: | Re: Shell smoke oils |
The Conoco Industrial 70 is a clear as water 10 weight high paraffin oil that I
think is the best I have used and the least costly from the dealers around me.
Every time I smoke with it I get a lot of remarks about how much it hangs
around. I think I Mark I have mentioned it to you. I have also used the concrete
form oil that is around $10 a gallon and smells like berries when you pour
it in with a slight rose cooler. It is easier to find at the supply houses than
chasing down the Shell and Conoco dealers for me but I prefer the Industrial
70 because it's so clean burning.
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Shell smoke oils |
We use Shell ONDINA 917, expensive but good.
See pictures. Click on the links below ...
And as you can see on some of the pics, sometimes some smoke gets inside
!!
http://www.airshowactionphotography.com/san07/page1.html
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/129005.html
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8502
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8503
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8504
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8505
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8506
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8507
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8508
Etc ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk8bHKoSpBo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2e8f7_1ohQ
Cheers,
http://www.aerobatics.org.uk/photos/profile.php?uid=84
Yak 52 G-CBSS.
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Sujet : Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Corvus is the smoke standard. Plus it is mostly non-toxic where others
aren=B9t necessarily.
bd
On 10/20/08 7:06 AM, "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
> My favorite was because the Blues often contractually demanded it. Cor
vus.
> We would have to secure supplies in 55 gal drums and at the end of a ci
ty
> tour, we would have an odd lot supply of 7 to 30 gallons surplus. No o
ne
> wanted to store a partial 55 gallon drum in a hangar for six months. F
lows
> easy and burns without the brown tint of some other refractions. They
liked
> the billowy, white result.
>
> John
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:52 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>
>
> John,
>
> Is there any of the three Shell oils that works better than the ot
hers?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Davis
>
> N44YK
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: John Cox <mailto:johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>>
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>
>> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:13 AM
>>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>>
>>
>> Yes, and a great way to obtain some is to contact your local airshow a
t the
>> conclusion of activities. They usually don't want to store it and mak
e it
>> available for a song.
>>
>> John Cox
>>
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:15 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils mentioned
on
>> smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with the price of
oil
>> down again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Shell Carnea #10
>> Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
>>
>> Shell VITREA 13
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Davis
>>
>> N44YK
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Shell smoke oils |
AVIATOR SMOKE !!!!
http://www.yakkes.com/images/gallery/yakkes_01.jpg
http://yakkes.com/support.shop.php
Etienne, You've should have known better !
Ps. I've got some great blown up photo's here from you...
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From: Etienne
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
We use Shell ONDINA 917, expensive but good.
See pictures. Click on the links below ...
And as you can see on some of the pics, sometimes some smoke gets inside
!!
http://www.airshowactionphotography.com/san07/page1.html
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/129005.html
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8502
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8503
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8504
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8505
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8506
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8507
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8508
Etc ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk8bHKoSpBo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2e8f7_1ohQ
Cheers,
http://www.aerobatics.org.uk/photos/profile.php?uid=84
Yak 52 G-CBSS.
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Sujet : Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Corvus is the smoke standard. Plus it is mostly non-toxic where others
aren=B9t necessarily.
bd
On 10/20/08 7:06 AM, "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
> My favorite was because the Blues often contractually demanded it. Cor
vus
> We would have to secure supplies in 55 gal drums and at the end of a ci
ty
> tour, we would have an odd lot supply of 7 to 30 gallons surplus. No o
ne
> wanted to store a partial 55 gallon drum in a hangar for six months.
Flows
> easy and burns without the brown tint of some other refractions. They
liked
> the billowy, white result.
>
> John
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:52 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>
>
> John,
>
> Is there any of the three Shell oils that works better than the
others?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Davis
>
> N44YK
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: John Cox <mailto:johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>>
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>
>> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:13 AM
>>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>>
>>
>> Yes, and a great way to obtain some is to contact your local airshow a
t
the
>> conclusion of activities. They usually don't want to store it and mak
e
it
>> available for a song.
>>
>> John Cox
>>
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:15 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils mentioned
on
>> smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with the price of
oil
>> down again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Shell Carnea #10
>> Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
>>
>> Shell VITREA 13
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Davis
>>
>> N44YK
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matron
ics
com/N
>> avigator?Yak-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.co
m/c
>>
>> 10/18/2008 6:01 PM
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
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Has anyone tried used automatic transmission fluid? Is it good or bad? I
have a auto repair shop with lots of used fluid.
----- Original Message -----
From: cjpilot710@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
In a message dated 10/20/2008 12:10:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
drc@wscare.com writes:
I've used 10 weight turbine oil. I was able to get it for free. How?
At jet engine overhaul shops with test cells, after a test run, the oil
that was used in the engine is drained and never used again. It is
"filtered" in the normal course of things but the feds require it not to
be used again. Companies normally pay someone to come and get rid of
it.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Agree - Corvus
I have used a whole barrel of Vitrea 13 without problems in a
smokongplanes system.
I just picked up a barrel for cheap after a local air show got
rained out.
Herb
On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils
mentioned on smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with
the price of oil down again.
Shell Carnea #10
Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
Shell VITREA 13
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| Subject: | Re: Shell smoke oils |
OF COURSE, Jerome ... I forgot !!
Engine and smoke oil from Yakkes !!
http://www.yakkes.com/
Too much Vodka ... AVIATOR VODKA ! You bet !!
http://www.aviatorwodka.com/
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/129002L.html
http://www.aviacioncr.net/foto.php?id=17925
Cheers,
Etienne.
http://www.yakkes.com/about.crew.show.php?crewmember=etienne
http://www.flyforfun.be/?q=yaks
http://airpic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2347
PS : Jerome if you have other nice photos you know we always love to see
them
;-))
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Sujet : Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
AVIATOR SMOKE !!!!
http://www.yakkes.com/images/gallery/yakkes_01.jpg
http://yakkes.com/support.shop.php
Etienne, You've should have known better !
Ps. I've got some great blown up photo's here from you...
-------Original Message-------
From: Etienne
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
We use Shell ONDINA 917, expensive but good.
See pictures. Click on the links below ...
And as you can see on some of the pics, sometimes some smoke gets inside
!!
http://www.airshowactionphotography.com/san07/page1.html
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/129005.html
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8502
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8503
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8504
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8505
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8506
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8507
http://forums.matronics.com/download.php?id=8508
Etc ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk8bHKoSpBo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2e8f7_1ohQ
Cheers,
http://www.aerobatics.org.uk/photos/profile.php?uid=84
Yak 52 G-CBSS.
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Corvus is the smoke standard. Plus it is mostly non-toxic where others
aren=B9t necessarily.
bd
On 10/20/08 7:06 AM, "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
> My favorite was because the Blues often contractually demanded it. Cor
vus
> We would have to secure supplies in 55 gal drums and at the end of a ci
ty
> tour, we would have an odd lot supply of 7 to 30 gallons surplus. No o
ne
> wanted to store a partial 55 gallon drum in a hangar for six months.
Flows
> easy and burns without the brown tint of some other refractions. They
liked
> the billowy, white result.
>
> John
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:52 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>
>
> John,
>
> Is there any of the three Shell oils that works better than the
others?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Davis
>
> N44YK
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: John Cox <mailto:johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>>
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>
>> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:13 AM
>>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>>
>>
>> Yes, and a great way to obtain some is to contact your local airshow a
t
the
>> conclusion of activities. They usually don't want to store it and mak
e
it
>> available for a song.
>>
>> John Cox
>>
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:15 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils mentioned
on
>> smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with the price of
oil
>> down again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Shell Carnea #10
>> Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
>>
>> Shell VITREA 13
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Davis
>>
>> N44YK
>>
>>
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>> http://forums.matronics.com
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>>
>> 10/18/2008 6:01 PM
>>
>>
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>> http://forums.matronics.com <mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.co
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I can get this stuff by the case Pappy... Usually because of a "use by"
date that has expired. Does it really work that well for smoke? I
always thought it was synthetic and would not burn all that well.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
In a message dated 10/20/2008 12:10:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
drc@wscare.com writes:
I've used 10 weight turbine oil. I was able to get it for free. How?
At jet engine overhaul shops with test cells, after a test run, the oil
that was used in the engine is drained and never used again. It is
"filtered" in the normal course of things but the feds require it not to
be used again. Companies normally pay someone to come and get rid of
it.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Agree - Corvus
I have used a whole barrel of Vitrea 13 without problems in a
smokongplanes system.
I just picked up a barrel for cheap after a local air show got
rained out.
Herb
On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke
oils mentioned on smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again
with the price of oil down again.
Shell Carnea #10
Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
Shell VITREA 13
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| Subject: | Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units |
Frank, I have not delved into the Russian thermocouple designs at all.
Do you know whether they are using the any of the standard wiring for
their designs, such as:
KX - Chromel/Alumel
TX - Copper/Constantan
JX - Iron/Constantan
SX - Copper/Alloy II
EX - Chromel/Constantan
BX - PCLW 630/Copper
NX - Nicrosil/Nisil
?????????????????????
Thanks,
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank
Stelwagon
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units
--> <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
The thermocouple sender uses the junction of two dissimilar metals to
generate a voltage based on temperature, the voltage is quite small
usually in the milivolt range. The resistance style sensor varies the
resistance based on temperature. The gauge system usually supplies a
constant voltage to the resistor and as the resistance changes the
current flow in the system changes.
Frank
N23021
----- Original Message -----
From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 5:09 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units
> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
>
> Thanks for the reply Frank. I did notice that MGL makes an insert
probe
> which can be placed inside of a hollowed out CJ temp probe. As for the
oil
> pressure sender, I'd lack the motivation to re-do the fittings, lines
and
> /or hoses to support the standard thread on an auto/cessna sender.
>
> Out of curiosity, how does the thermocouple sender work as opposed to
the
> resistance style sensor.
>
> Keith
> 700HS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9409#209409
>
>
>
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No Mark I don't know what they use and I have never seen it written up any
where. Maybe Doug knows.
Frankl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Frank, I have not delved into the Russian thermocouple designs at all.
> Do you know whether they are using the any of the standard wiring for
> their designs, such as:
>
> KX - Chromel/Alumel
> TX - Copper/Constantan
> JX - Iron/Constantan
> SX - Copper/Alloy II
> EX - Chromel/Constantan
> BX - PCLW 630/Copper
> NX - Nicrosil/Nisil
>
> ?????????????????????
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Bitterlich
> N50YK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank
> Stelwagon
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:40 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units
>
> --> <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
>
> The thermocouple sender uses the junction of two dissimilar metals to
> generate a voltage based on temperature, the voltage is quite small
> usually in the milivolt range. The resistance style sensor varies the
> resistance based on temperature. The gauge system usually supplies a
> constant voltage to the resistor and as the resistance changes the
> current flow in the system changes.
>
> Frank
> N23021
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 5:09 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units
>
>
>> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
>>
>> Thanks for the reply Frank. I did notice that MGL makes an insert
> probe
>> which can be placed inside of a hollowed out CJ temp probe. As for the
> oil
>> pressure sender, I'd lack the motivation to re-do the fittings, lines
> and
>> /or hoses to support the standard thread on an auto/cessna sender.
>>
>> Out of curiosity, how does the thermocouple sender work as opposed to
> the
>> resistance style sensor.
>>
>> Keith
>> 700HS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9409#209409
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Shell smoke oils |
Hey guys, what you burn you breath. I tried tranny oil, but after puking up
my guts and having a headache for two days, I surmised it just might not be
a good thing to use even if it was free. I made a decision that if I was
going to kill brain cells, I'd do it the old fashioned way....with a good
well aged dbl malt scotch.
Doug
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> I can get this stuff by the case Pappy... Usually because of a "use by"
> date that has expired. Does it really work that well for smoke? I
> always thought it was synthetic and would not burn all that well.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> cjpilot710@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:41 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
>
> In a message dated 10/20/2008 12:10:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> drc@wscare.com writes:
>
> I've used 10 weight turbine oil. I was able to get it for free. How?
> At jet engine overhaul shops with test cells, after a test run, the oil
> that was used in the engine is drained and never used again. It is
> "filtered" in the normal course of things but the feds require it not to
> be used again. Companies normally pay someone to come and get rid of
> it.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
> Agree - Corvus
>
> I have used a whole barrel of Vitrea 13 without problems in a
> smokongplanes system.
> I just picked up a barrel for cheap after a local air show got
> rained out.
>
> Herb
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke
> oils mentioned on smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again
> with the price of oil down again.
>
> Shell Carnea #10
> Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
> Shell VITREA 13
>
>
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In a message dated 10/20/2008 5:47:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
valleyauto@clearwire.net writes:
I tried it once. No good.
Jim "Pappy" Gooldby
Has anyone tried used automatic transmission fluid? Is it good or bad? I
have a auto repair shop with lots of used fluid.
----- Original Message -----
From: _cjpilot710@aol.com_ (mailto:cjpilot710@aol.com)
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
In a message dated 10/20/2008 12:10:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
_drc@wscare.com_ (mailto:drc@wscare.com) writes:
I've used 10 weight turbine oil. I was able to get it for free. How? At
jet engine overhaul shops with test cells, after a test run, the oil that was
used in the engine is drained and never used again. It is "filtered" in the
normal course of things but the feds require it not to be used again.
Companies normally pay someone to come and get rid of it.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Agree - Corvus
I have used a whole barrel of Vitrea 13 without problems in a smokongplanes
system.
I just picked up a barrel for cheap after a local air show got rained out.
Herb
On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils mentioned on
smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with the price of oil down
again.
Shell Carnea #10
Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
Shell VITREA 13
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In a message dated 10/20/2008 6:37:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mark.bitterlich@navy.mil writes:
It is not the best stuff in the world. Smoke a little on thin side. There
will be some residue on the airplane after you use it. Great to practice
with. BUT it was cheap!
Pappy
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
I can get this stuff by the case Pappy... Usually because of a "use by"
date that has expired. Does it really work that well for smoke? I
always thought it was synthetic and would not burn all that well.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
In a message dated 10/20/2008 12:10:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
drc@wscare.com writes:
I've used 10 weight turbine oil. I was able to get it for free. How?
At jet engine overhaul shops with test cells, after a test run, the oil
that was used in the engine is drained and never used again. It is
"filtered" in the normal course of things but the feds require it not to
be used again. Companies normally pay someone to come and get rid of
it.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Agree - Corvus
I have used a whole barrel of Vitrea 13 without problems in a
smokongplanes system.
I just picked up a barrel for cheap after a local air show got
rained out.
Herb
On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke
oils mentioned on smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again
with the price of oil down again.
Shell Carnea #10
Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
Shell VITREA 13
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| Subject: | Shell smoke oils |
So you're telling me you get good smoke burning Double Malt Scotch even
if it does make you have a headache after puking your guts out?
You da man.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Hey guys, what you burn you breath. I tried tranny oil, but after
puking up my guts and having a headache for two days, I surmised it just
might not be a good thing to use even if it was free. I made a decision
that if I was going to kill brain cells, I'd do it the old fashioned
way....with a good well aged dbl malt scotch.
Doug
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry
Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
I can get this stuff by the case Pappy... Usually because of a
"use by"
date that has expired. Does it really work that well for smoke?
I
always thought it was synthetic and would not burn all that
well.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
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cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:41 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
In a message dated 10/20/2008 12:10:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight
Time,
drc@wscare.com writes:
I've used 10 weight turbine oil. I was able to get it for free.
How?
At jet engine overhaul shops with test cells, after a test run,
the oil
that was used in the engine is drained and never used again. It
is
"filtered" in the normal course of things but the feds require
it not to
be used again. Companies normally pay someone to come and get
rid of
it.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Agree - Corvus
I have used a whole barrel of Vitrea 13 without problems
in a
smokongplanes system.
I just picked up a barrel for cheap after a local air
show got
rained out.
Herb
On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with any of these
smoke
oils mentioned on smokingairplanes.com
<http://smokingairplanes.com/> ? May be time to stock up again
with the price of oil down again.
Shell Carnea #10
Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
Shell VITREA 13
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| Subject: | Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units |
My guess would be KX - Chromel/Alumel since that was pretty much the
standard back in the day, and most everything else I have seen in the
YAK/CJ designs was pretty much standard U.S. way of doing things back in
the late 50's to the mid 60's or so. Would be nice to know, but.... Oh
well.
Mark Bitterlich
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank
Stelwagon
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units
--> <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
No Mark I don't know what they use and I have never seen it written up
any where. Maybe Doug knows.
Frankl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units
Point,
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Frank, I have not delved into the Russian thermocouple designs at all.
> Do you know whether they are using the any of the standard wiring for
> their designs, such as:
>
> KX - Chromel/Alumel
> TX - Copper/Constantan
> JX - Iron/Constantan
> SX - Copper/Alloy II
> EX - Chromel/Constantan
> BX - PCLW 630/Copper
> NX - Nicrosil/Nisil
>
> ?????????????????????
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Bitterlich
> N50YK
>
>
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> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank
> Stelwagon
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:40 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending
units
>
> --> <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
>
> The thermocouple sender uses the junction of two dissimilar metals to
> generate a voltage based on temperature, the voltage is quite small
> usually in the milivolt range. The resistance style sensor varies the
> resistance based on temperature. The gauge system usually supplies a
> constant voltage to the resistor and as the resistance changes the
> current flow in the system changes.
>
> Frank
> N23021
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 5:09 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak/CJ temp probes and pressure sending units
>
>
>> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
>>
>> Thanks for the reply Frank. I did notice that MGL makes an insert
> probe
>> which can be placed inside of a hollowed out CJ temp probe. As for
the
> oil
>> pressure sender, I'd lack the motivation to re-do the fittings, lines
> and
>> /or hoses to support the standard thread on an auto/cessna sender.
>>
>> Out of curiosity, how does the thermocouple sender work as opposed to
> the
>> resistance style sensor.
>>
>> Keith
>> 700HS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9409#209409
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Smoke Oil is concrete form oil |
Canopus 13 from Texaco is concrete form oil.? The stuff they spray on concrete
form boards so the concrete don't stick.? We have been using it for ten years,
buying it by the drum at the local masonry supply.? Cheap too.? Just don't drink
it!
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| Subject: | Re: Smoke Oil is concrete form oil |
What local business is that?
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 20, 2008, at 6:29 PM, vectorwarbirds@aol.com wrote:
> Canopus 13 from Texaco is concrete form oil. The stuff they spray
> on concrete form boards so the concrete don't stick. We have been
> using it for ten years, buying it by the drum at the local masonry
> supply. Cheap too. Just don't drink it!
>
>
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| Subject: | Shell smoke oils |
MSDS sheets are available on all of these alternatives including Pappy's
Mobil One synthetic 10W that is recycled. Know the handling and
toxicity of any product that you use. If you need one, an MSDS sheet,
let me know.
Etienne provided some great (Fabulous) smoke shots which many of you
can relate to the ingestion of the oil you are burning. Then again
Pappy has probably plumbed that Chinese leather mask with an independent
supply of O2 or nitrous oxide blended gas.
Vegetable, Mineral or Synthetic they all get the job done with differing
toxicity to the pilot.
John Cox.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Budd Davisson
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Corvus is the smoke standard. Plus it is mostly non-toxic where others
aren't necessarily.
bd
On 10/20/08 7:06 AM, "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
My favorite was because the Blues often contractually demanded it.
Corvus. We would have to secure supplies in 55 gal drums and at the end
of a city tour, we would have an odd lot supply of 7 to 30 gallons
surplus. No one wanted to store a partial 55 gallon drum in a hangar
for six months. Flows easy and burns without the brown tint of some
other refractions. They liked the billowy, white result.
John
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
John,
Is there any of the three Shell oils that works better than the
others?
Thanks,
Mark Davis
N44YK
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From: John Cox <mailto:johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Yes, and a great way to obtain some is to contact your local airshow at
the conclusion of activities. They usually don't want to store it and
make it available for a song.
John Cox
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:15 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils mentioned
on smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with the price
of oil down again.
Shell Carnea #10
Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
Shell VITREA 13
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| Subject: | Shell smoke oils |
I rest my case.
John Cox
Other alternatives work as well.
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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
Agree - Corvus
I have used a whole barrel of Vitrea 13 without problems in a
smokongplanes system.
I just picked up a barrel for cheap after a local air show got rained
out.
Herb
On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils mentioned
on smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with the price
of oil down again.
Shell Carnea #10
Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
Shell VITREA 13
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| Subject: | Re: Smoke Oil is concrete form oil |
Check out this site for secret smoke oil formulas!!? And as I said don't drink
it!!
http://www.tmenet.com/brews.htm
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From: vectorwarbirds@aol.com
Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 6:29 pm
Subject: Yak-List: Smoke Oil is concrete form oil
Canopus 13 from Texaco is concrete form oil.? The stuff they spray on concrete
form boards so the concrete don't stick.? We have been using it for ten years,
buying it by the drum at the local masonry supply.? Cheap too.? Just don't drink
it!
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| Subject: | Smoke Oil is concrete form oil |
Do you have the address for the mason supply that you were talking about. I
can't find anyone after Bennett burned down. Dri Smoke in the Chicago area
has the cleanest fly backwards smoke I have used. BT
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vectorwarbirds@aol.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Smoke Oil is concrete form oil
Check out this site for secret smoke oil formulas!! And as I said don't
drink it!!
http://www.tmenet.com/brews.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: vectorwarbirds@aol.com
Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 6:29 pm
Subject: Yak-List: Smoke Oil is concrete form oil
Canopus 13 from Texaco is concrete form oil. The stuff they spray on
concrete form boards so the concrete don't stick. We have been using it for
ten years, buying it by the drum at the local masonry supply. Cheap too.
Just don't drink it!
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| Subject: | Re: looking for a cowl air intake mod |
What is the difference? I have a CJ and did not know there is a different
cowling.
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From: "Elmar Hegenauer" <elmar.h@shaw.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 6:59 PM
Subject: Yak-List: looking for a cowl air intake mod
>
> I still have the old CJ-6 cowling
> without the CJ-6A ram air modification.
>
> Is there a modification kit and if yes,
> who sells it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> cheers
>
> Elmar
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Charlotte area RPA Members? |
Craig, are you looking for a CJ6, i have a great plane for sale.
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From: "Craig Winkelmann" <capav8r@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 7:24 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Charlotte area RPA Members?
>
> Dave:
>
> There are some great guys in Charlotte who are members. They fly Pilatus
> P-3s and Focke-Wulfs. They came to the Tar Heel FAST clinic we held at
> Sandord, NC in June. I live in Raleigh and will have a CJ by Waycross and
> there are a few Yak-52 guys in the Raleigh area as well.
>
> Contact me off list and I can help put you in touch with the Charlotte
> based guys.
>
> Craig
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9269#209269
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| Subject: | Shell smoke oils |
Here in the UK most display yaks run with one of two:
Marcol
or
Ondina
Shell Ondina is in my tank. It's the base oil used in pharmacy (a bit like
"baby oil").
Thin, clear, (good for your skin apparently!), environmentally friendly,
odourless, and edible.
Meaning it's cockpit breathable with no nasty side effects..
Also produces thick WHITE (not the faintest hint of a brown) smoke.
Nigel
http://yakdisplay.com
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Sent: 21 October 2008 01:30
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
In a message dated 10/20/2008 5:47:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
valleyauto@clearwire.net writes:
I tried it once. No good.
Jim "Pappy" Gooldby
Has anyone tried used automatic transmission fluid? Is it good or bad? I
have a auto repair shop with lots of used fluid.
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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shell smoke oils
In a message dated 10/20/2008 12:10:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
drc@wscare.com writes:
I've used 10 weight turbine oil. I was able to get it for free. How? At
jet engine overhaul shops with test cells, after a test run, the oil that
was used in the engine is drained and never used again. It is "filtered" in
the normal course of things but the feds require it not to be used again.
Companies normally pay someone to come and get rid of it.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Agree - Corvus
I have used a whole barrel of Vitrea 13 without problems in a smokongplanes
system.
I just picked up a barrel for cheap after a local air show got rained out.
Herb
On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with any of these smoke oils mentioned on
smokingairplanes.com? May be time to stock up again with the price of oil
down again.
Shell Carnea #10
Shell Carnea E-? (10 weight)
Shell VITREA 13
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