---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/25/08: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:11 AM - Re: Re: M14P Missing Oil & Hydraulic Lock (dabear) 2. 06:18 AM - Re: M14P Missing Oil & Hydraulic Lock (tjyak50) 3. 06:12 PM - Missing man formation (jblake207@COMCAST.NET) 4. 07:36 PM - Re: Missing man formation (Tim Gagnon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:43 AM PST US From: "dabear" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: M14P Missing Oil & Hydraulic Lock Hit delete now..... Ok, I warned you. I've had the kimbal oil shut off valve and the oil sump drain pump for over 350 hours on my M14P. I love it, period, end of story. Used properly, there is zero chance of a hydraulic lock. It has the starter interupt if the valve is closed. and if you remove all the oil from your engine after shutting off the oil valve, there is no oil to drain into the Cyl, therefore no lock. Now, I've heard of danger of the starter interupt not working while the valve is closed and electrically, don't see how that will happen. But I'll grant you it might be possibility. However, when ever I start an engine I look for oil pressure once the engine is running, no pressure I immediately shut down the engine. We do this for cessnas, pipers, etc, why is this any different. I guess you could "accidently" shut the oil valve in flight, but then again if you did that, you really shouldn't be flying. The only real issue I see with the system is the half second it takes to get oil pressure into the engine and that could be fixed with a pre-oiler. But I've not seen (even in winter) it take more than a second to get oil pressure, so while I might do a pre-oiler in the future, it is not a priority. The nice thing the system does (besides preventing Hydraulic Lock, is prevent oil from coming out the intake drains and the exhaust onto the hanger floor or ramp. Your mileage may varry, void where prohibited. Dabear ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:20 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14P Missing Oil & Hydraulic Lock From: "tjyak50" 1) Oil migration may reduce or go away during winter. 2) Try changing your oil, and to something heavier? 3) When I installed Bill Blackwells oil filter kit my oil migration reduced significantly. 4) If you have an insurance policy from www.airpowerinsurance.com it may help also..., heck its worth checking at least. Tj Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=210227#210227 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:11 PM PST US From: jblake207@COMCAST.NET Subject: Yak-List: Missing man formation Mark Fitzgerald, recent RPA member is looking for some immediate assistance. He needs at least four airplanes to conduct a Missing man formation in the Marietta, GA area. The airfield is Stockmar airport (20GA) near Dobbins, AFB. A distinguished business man from the Atlanta metro area, Earl Small, passed away and Marc is trying to arrange the formation for the family. They expect well over a thousand people at the funeral. Mark needs this to happen tomorrow, Sunday 26 Oct. They will cover expenses, so if you can help, contact Marc at 678-557-7193 or ifly4yall@aol.com. JB

Mark Fitzgerald, recent RPA member is looking for some immediate assistance. He needs at least four airplanes to conduct a Missing man formation in the Marietta, GA area. The airfield is Stockmar airport (20GA) near Dobbins, AFB. A distinguished business man from the Atlanta metro area, Earl Small, passed away and Marc is trying to arrange the formation for the family. They expect well over a thousand people at the funeral.

Mark needs this to happen tomorrow, Sunday 26 Oct. They will cover expenses, so if you can help, contact Marc at 678-557-7193 or ifly4yall@aol.com.

________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:03 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Missing man formation From: "Tim Gagnon" Was the guy a veteran? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=210299#210299 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.