Yak-List Digest Archive

Sat 11/01/08


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 12:23 AM - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! (dralle@matronics.com)
     2. 06:02 AM - Re: Recovery from loss of a wing- one very skilled dude! (yak-52@comcast.net)
     3. 07:46 AM - FW: Listen to this! (Bill Geipel)
     4. 09:53 AM - Re: FW: Listen to this! (Walter Lannon)
     5. 09:56 AM - Re: FW: Listen to this! OT (ByronMFox@aol.com)
     6. 02:51 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 10/31/08 (James Bourke)
     7. 07:36 PM - Re: FW: Listen to this! (Bill Geipel)
     8. 07:51 PM - Re: FW: Listen to this! (Stephen Fox)
     9. 07:51 PM - Re: Operational Questions (keithmckinley)
    10. 07:57 PM - pulses per revolution on the Housai? (keithmckinley)
    11. 09:12 PM - Re: FW: Listen to this! (Roger Kemp MD)
    12. 09:54 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 10/31/08 (mikspin)
    13. 10:02 PM - Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions (AKMac)
    14. 11:04 PM - Re: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions (Kurt Howerton)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:23:01 AM PST US
    From: dralle@matronics.com
    Subject: Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
    Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through soley through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts. Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/). These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really do feel like family. Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 06:02:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Recovery from loss of a wing- one very skilled dude!
    From: "yak-52@comcast.net" <yak-52@COMCAST.NET>
    not a fake, is a model airplane however. Very light weight with a lot of power. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211456#211456


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    Time: 07:46:46 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6@mesanetworks.net>
    Subject: FW: Listen to this!
    _____ From: garypwhite@juno.com [mailto:garypwhite@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 3:22 AM Subject: Listen to this! LISTEN TO THIS MESSAGE AND PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ? Thanks Gary <http://www.lawatchdog.com/SecondRevolution071108.html> http://www.lawatchdog.com/SecondRevolution071108.html _____________________________________________________________ Click for free info on college degrees. <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2122/fc/Ioyw6i3l8WvpYSiySYocF4h8JkMstnv 2FvL3vycIO5yF9ywNkIKshA/?count=1234567890>


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    Time: 09:53:27 AM PST US
    From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>
    Subject: Re: FW: Listen to this!
    Why??? What the ^#$* does this have to do with the Yak List? Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Geipel To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 7:45 AM Subject: Yak-List: FW: Listen to this! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: garypwhite@juno.com [mailto:garypwhite@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 3:22 AM To: Undisclosed-recipients: Subject: Listen to this! LISTEN TO THIS MESSAGE AND PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ? Thanks Gary http://www.lawatchdog.com/SecondRevolution071108.html _____________________________________________________________ Click for free info on college degrees.


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    Time: 09:56:01 AM PST US
    From: ByronMFox@aol.com
    Subject: Re: FW: Listen to this! OT
    Nice piece, Gary, but please take it off list. We're all politically saturated as it is. More here seems inappropriate. Thanks, Blitz In a message dated 11/1/2008 7:47:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, czech6@mesanetworks.net writes: ____________________________________ From: garypwhite@juno.com [mailto:garypwhite@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 3:22 AM Subject: Listen to this! LISTEN TO THIS MESSAGE AND PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ? Thanks Gary _http://www.lawatchdog.com/SecondRevolution071108.html_ (http://www.lawatchdog.com/SecondRevolution071108.html) _____________________________________________________________ _Click for free info on college degrees._ (http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2122/fc/Ioyw6i3l8WvpYSiySYocF4h8JkMstnv2FvL3vycIO5yF9ywNkIKshA/?count=1234567 890) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List) **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals!


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    Time: 02:51:50 PM PST US
    From: James Bourke <jtbourke@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 10/31/08
    I'm a new list member and just noticed the one-wing landing post. I'm the only western hemisphere owner of a Yak-54. Many people know it under the name "Russian Thunder". It happens that I had a one wing landing of my own with an R/C model recently. This video was the avweb video of the week, and has been shared on many other sites, including my own: RCGroups.com and FlyingGiants.com. I find the fake video a bit annoying because so many people have sent it to me and so many have been suckered by it. It seems obvious to me that this is a CGI rendering of an airplane (something I also know something about since I develop the RealFlight flight simulator) and not a model or a real aircraft. I don't mean to insult the people who thought the video was real, but I am simply stunned by how many of my aviation-loving friends bought into it. To me, it seems just as off as the CGI sequences in Pearl Harbor, The Aviator, Flyboys, and other aviation-themed movies. The aircraft in the video simply doesn't behave like a real airplane, whether man-carrying or model. I can tell you from experience that bringing in an R/C model with one wing is not something most people can hope to do. Since the event happened to me in an R/C model, it's given me an opportunity to consider how hopeless such a situation would be with Russian Thunder. Even with it's performance capabilities, which are still pretty darn impressive even by 2008 standards, it could not possibly be brought in safely without both wings solidly attached. I'll link everyone to my own One Wing Landing video both on youtube and my blog at RCGroups. I figure this is a good way to introduce myself and maybe you'll find it interesting, even though it is an R/C model of a Yak, and not the real thing: Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOBB_-gZFNo RCGroups: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=486 Yours, Jim


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    Time: 07:36:14 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6@mesanetworks.net>
    Subject: FW: Listen to this!
    And the one wing landing for a week or more? Walt, take a chill pill. _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Walter Lannon Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: FW: Listen to this! Why??? What the ^#$* does this have to do with the Yak List? Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill <mailto:czech6@mesanetworks.net> Geipel Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 7:45 AM Subject: Yak-List: FW: Listen to this! _____ From: garypwhite@juno.com [mailto:garypwhite@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 3:22 AM Subject: Listen to this! LISTEN TO THIS MESSAGE AND PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ? Thanks Gary <http://www.lawatchdog.com/SecondRevolution071108.html> http://www.lawatchdog.com/SecondRevolution071108.html _____________________________________________________________ Click for free info on college degrees. <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2122/fc/Ioyw6i3l8WvpYSiySYocF4h8JkMstnv 2FvL3vycIO5yF9ywNkIKshA/?count=1234567890>


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    Time: 07:51:12 PM PST US
    From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: FW: Listen to this!
    Happy to tell you what I think in a few words - Take it off the list. It has naught to do with flying, Yaks or CJs Stephen Fox Consulting Partner/Facilitator & Trainer thinkx Intellectual Capital innovation drives productivity ideas drive innovation thinkx drives ideas http://www.thinkxic.com email: steve.fox@thinkxic.com Boston Office: 617-379-0865 New Hampshire: 603.924.8660 On Nov 1, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Bill Geipel wrote: > > > From: garypwhite@juno.com [mailto:garypwhite@juno.com] > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 3:22 AM > To: Undisclosed-recipients: > Subject: Listen to this! > > > LISTEN TO THIS MESSAGE AND PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ? > Thanks > Gary > > http://www.lawatchdog.com/SecondRevolution071108.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Click for free info on college degrees.


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    Time: 07:51:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Operational Questions
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    I burn about 13 gph at 2000 rpm and 620. Leaned out to about 730-750 degrees on the left exhaust. Cruise is 240 clicks Keith 700hs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211708#211708


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    Time: 07:57:03 PM PST US
    Subject: pulses per revolution on the Housai?
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    (Concerning the setup of a digital tach).....How many? 4.5? Keith 700 HS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211710#211710


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    Time: 09:12:57 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp MD" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: FW: Listen to this!
    Out of curiosity, how many read the comparison of views on General Aviation by the two candidates in the AOPA newsletter that came out last weekend? What we are facing with this upcoming election will have everything to do with our flying CJ's and YAKs over the next 3 years. It is not only our privilege to fly CJ's and YAKs freely in our US skies that will be under attach. It's our 1st and 2nd amendment rights that are also coming under attach but this all that I'm saying on this subject since the "list" is only for YAK and CJ discussion. No advertising and not a disparaging word should be spoken. That way we will not have to pull our heads out of the sand to face the reality of what is at stake in this impending perfect political storm that has not been seen on the international scene in 60 years. For those interested, I'll be happy to provide information on what a pathological narcissistic personality disorder is but as a hint names like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Jim Baker (Guiana fame) all come to mind. Go on line and read the AOPA article on the views of the two candidates then go vote your condense on 4 Nov 08. I promise this is the last political comment I'll make on the "list". I empathize with Bill Geipel concerning his post and understand fully what he was feeling in his gut when he felt compelled to post it. WE are all sick of politics but hopefully not to the point of sticking our heads in the sand because this election will affect the future of our flying freedom among others. But.what the Hey! Texas Tech just knocked off Texas! In the AM, Alabama will be #1 in the NCAA! Roll DAMNED TIDE from a Red Neck that clings to his Bible and Guns! This did not have anything to do with flying either but neither does the 100 uses of MMO. Just go vote on Tuesday. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Fox Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 9:51 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: FW: Listen to this! Happy to tell you what I think in a few words - Take it off the list. It has naught to do with flying, Yaks or CJs Stephen Fox Consulting Partner/Facilitator & Trainer thinkx Intellectual Capital innovation drives productivity ideas drive innovation thinkx drives ideas http://www.thinkxic.com email: steve.fox@thinkxic.com Boston Office: 617-379-0865 New Hampshire: 603.924.8660 On Nov 1, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Bill Geipel wrote: _____ From: garypwhite@juno.com [mailto:garypwhite@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 3:22 AM Subject: Listen to this! LISTEN TO THIS MESSAGE AND PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ? Thanks Gary <http://www.lawatchdog.com/SecondRevolution071108.html> http://www.lawatchdog.com/SecondRevolution071108.html _____________________________________________________________ Click for free info on college degrees. <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2122/fc/Ioyw6i3l8WvpYSiySYocF4h8JkMstnv 2FvL3vycIO5yF9ywNkIKshA/?count=1234567890> http://www.matronics.com/contribution style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 09:54:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 10/31/08
    From: "mikspin" <acromike@gmail.com>
    Jim Glad you're here, and glad you noticed the bull*#!. Mike Hastings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211718#211718


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    Time: 10:02:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
    From: "AKMac" <macjohnson@gmail.com>
    Hi guys. I'm looking into buying a Yak-52 sometime in the next year. From my research these aircraft seem like capable aerobatic machines, and are relatively easy and inexpensive to maintain. I think they will fit my desires perfectly. This will be my first aircraft purchase and I'm trying to get an idea of exactly how much these birds cost to fly. My estimates are about $110 an hour wet (at 4.90 a gallon) Does this seem correct or am I way off here? Secondly I'm a long legged guy at 6'3" and 250lbs. Now I've flown C152's and Super Cubs, and I can tolerate them. But I would really like an airplane that is at least somewhat comfortable for me. I understand that at my size this is a tall order (pun intended!) but how comfortable are these airplanes for you guys? Anyways I think I have everything else figured out. If there is anything odd that is specific to the Yak please bring it to my attention. Thanks. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211719#211719


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    Time: 11:04:58 PM PST US
    From: Kurt Howerton <kurt@scitechsys.com>
    Subject: Re: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
    At 6'3" and 280 - I'm not all that comfortable in a 52 (sat in, never flown one). Very comfortable in the CJ-6. -- Kurt Howerton N923YK http://cj6.scitechsys.com AKMac wrote: > > Hi guys. I'm looking into buying a Yak-52 sometime in the next year. From my research these aircraft seem like capable aerobatic machines, and are relatively easy and inexpensive to maintain. I think they will fit my desires perfectly. > > This will be my first aircraft purchase and I'm trying to get an idea of exactly how much these birds cost to fly. My estimates are about $110 an hour wet (at 4.90 a gallon) Does this seem correct or am I way off here? > > Secondly I'm a long legged guy at 6'3" and 250lbs. Now I've flown C152's and Super Cubs, and I can tolerate them. But I would really like an airplane that is at least somewhat comfortable for me. I understand that at my size this is a tall order (pun intended!) but how comfortable are these airplanes for you guys? > > Anyways I think I have everything else figured out. If there is anything odd that is specific to the Yak please bring it to my attention. Thanks. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211719#211719 > > >




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