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1. 06:06 AM - Re: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T delivery (bad list reply) (Aleksej)
2. 06:38 AM - 52 Spinning (Richard Goode)
3. 08:33 AM - Re: (Peter K. Van Staagen)
4. 08:36 AM - Re: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions (Peter K. Van Staagen)
5. 01:02 PM - Re: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
6. 01:20 PM - Re: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions (Peter K. Van Staagen)
7. 01:55 PM - Re: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
8. 02:21 PM - Re: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions (Peter K. Van Staagen)
9. 03:50 PM - Hose from Fuel pump to de-bubbler (Scott Poehlmann)
10. 04:03 PM - Re: Hose from Fuel pump to de-bubbler (doug sapp)
11. 05:13 PM - Re: Hose from Fuel pump to de-bubbler (A. Dennis Savarese)
12. 07:03 PM - Fuel costs (Cpayne)
13. 07:28 PM - Panel upgrade (skidmk)
14. 09:59 PM - Help! Need a mechanic in East Texas (N642K)
15. 11:38 PM - Re: Fuel costs (Hans Oortman)
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| Subject: | Re: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T delivery (bad list reply) |
What is the matter mr. Remi DOBOIS?!
Why you removed your post about Liutauras?
What is a difference bettween you and Liutauras now? [Wink]
If you refuse my suggestion about Konstantin Shluinskij
Iwill put a claim on the court against you for reason blackmail of me.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212890#212890
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I am pleased that people are taking this issue seriously!
Nothing to do with "centrifugal force".
IF a 52 is in a well developed erect flat spin, it is descending very
rapidly in a horizontal attitude. Rapid descent causes the elevator to
be forced upwards, so the stick fully back. Also if spinning to the
left, forces the rudder to its left stop, and again strong forces can be
needed to apply opposite rudder and forward stick. People who would
like more information on this please see the paper that I have prepared
the link is http://www.russianaeros.com/Yak-52%20spinning.htm
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129
www.russianaeros.com
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I had the same problem a few years ago. I ground off all the paint along the
trough with the spot welds for the baffles and added a layer of pro seal.
Problem solved and it will never leak again, even if it does crack.
Leave the fuel caps loose too when you are not flying it.
Pete
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Schlafly
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:22 PM
Subject: Yak-List:
Safety issue:
Aircraft: 1995 YAK-52 flown approx 700 hours TT.
Issue: During the just completed Condition Inspection (Annual) cracks were
found in both fuel tanks. Several cracks, about a half inch long, were at
the bottom of each tank at the center and right next to the spot welds which
hold the internal baffle/support. The right tank was leaking and the left
one just barely started.
Recommendation: Remove the panels under the tanks and inspect each tank for
blue fuel stains, cracks, and fuel leaks.
A good welder can repair the tanks and then cover with welds and original
spot weld areas with PRC for added protection.
Fred Schlafly
YAK-52
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| Subject: | Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions |
Mac,
I'm 6'7" and 295 lbs. I've flow my stock Yak 52 300 hours in the last two
years with no problems. It's a squeeze and friends laugh when I put the
plane on, but I have enjoyed it thoroughly. The Yak however is a more
capable aerobatics plane if you are into that. Of course, every CJ owner
disagrees.
Les Shockley has apparently modified his Yak 52 front seat to where the seat
was moved back 3 inches at the bottom and 5 at the top, but I have no idea
how he did that and it looks like a rather major mod to me.
I'd be interested in a rudder pedal redesign and a Malcolm canopy if someone
perfects them.
Good Luck.
Pete
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Forrest, you are the man! I love it!
Mac, they can be kind of hard to find now-a-days, but if you can live
with a single seat aircraft, the YAK-50 is one of the best aircraft
around for big guys. I am over 6'6", and my weight is classified for
fear someone might actually plug the numbers in on a weight and balance
issue (smile). I can not fit in a 52 or a CJ-6. However, I can fit
into a stock 50 (single seat model). I have moved the seat back a few
inches... An easy mod, and that leaves me with even more comfort.
Forrest is right in that the CJ is a faster aircraft with even less fuel
burn than the 52. I can't honestly let the statement go that the CJ
will do everything that the 52 will do. The CJ will do gentleman
aerobatics with aplomb. The CJ is not built for competitive aerobatic
instruction, while the 52 is. The CJ-6 does what I call "nice"
aerobatics. The YAK-52 does RIP YOUR LIPS OFF aerobatics. That's where
the real difference lies. The CJ is a graceful swan. The 52 is a
freaking tractor.
Of course the 50 beats both of them. At 17 GPH it does around 158
knots. It's a weight thing, pure and simple.
If you combine the best of both though, you get a CJ-6 with the Russian
M-14PF engine and a three bladed MT prop. That's a very serious
airplane and I would have to say would be very hard to resist, even if
the level of aerobatics is not "perfect" per se.
Mark Bitterlich
Wearing a flame proof suit
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Forrest
Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> <flushjohnson@charter.net>
The 52 is a smaller airplane tha the CJ6. Your airframe would be better
off in a CJ. I would advise you to look a little further at the
comparrisions of the 52 and the CJ. The CJ will do every thing the 52
will do and is a better cross country airplane, hands down. the stock CJ
with 285 HP will give you
135 kts at 13 GPH. The 52 will do max 120 kts at 17 gph. Would lile to
discuss further at your convience. I have a great CJ6 forsale.
----- Original Message -----
From: "AKMac" <macjohnson@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
>
> Hi guys. I'm looking into buying a Yak-52 sometime in the next year.
> From my research these aircraft seem like capable aerobatic machines,
> and are relatively easy and inexpensive to maintain. I think they will
> fit my desires perfectly.
>
> This will be my first aircraft purchase and I'm trying to get an idea
> of exactly how much these birds cost to fly. My estimates are about
> $110 an hour wet (at 4.90 a gallon) Does this seem correct or am I way
off here?
>
> Secondly I'm a long legged guy at 6'3" and 250lbs. Now I've flown
> C152's and Super Cubs, and I can tolerate them. But I would really
> like an airplane that is at least somewhat comfortable for me. I
> understand that at my size this is a tall order (pun intended!) but
> how comfortable are these airplanes for you guys?
>
> Anyways I think I have everything else figured out. If there is
> anything odd that is specific to the Yak please bring it to my
attention. Thanks.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211719#211719
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions |
Pete and Mac, I think a lot of this has to do with torso height and leg length,
the two places where tall people differ.
I have a 34-35 inch leg length. My torso height is 48 inches. I am just short
of 6'7" in height. I can not fit into a YAK-52... Period. Yet, I am absolutely
sure that Mac can (I outweigh you Mac [smile]) My guess is that Mac might
have longer legs than myself and a shorter torso height.
Mac?
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter K. Van Staagen
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> <petervs@knology.net>
Mac,
I'm 6'7" and 295 lbs. I've flow my stock Yak 52 300 hours in the last two years
with no problems. It's a squeeze and friends laugh when I put the plane on, but
I have enjoyed it thoroughly. The Yak however is a more capable aerobatics
plane if you are into that. Of course, every CJ owner disagrees.
Les Shockley has apparently modified his Yak 52 front seat to where the seat was
moved back 3 inches at the bottom and 5 at the top, but I have no idea how he
did that and it looks like a rather major mod to me.
I'd be interested in a rudder pedal redesign and a Malcolm canopy if someone perfects
them.
Good Luck.
Pete
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Forrest, you are the man! I love it!
Mac, they can be kind of hard to find now-a-days, but if you can live with a single
seat aircraft, the YAK-50 is one of the best aircraft around for big guys.
I am over 6'6", and my weight is classified for fear someone might actually
plug the numbers in on a weight and balance issue (smile). I can not fit in
a 52 or a CJ-6. However, I can fit into a stock 50 (single seat model). I have
moved the seat back a few inches... An easy mod, and that leaves me with even
more comfort.
Forrest is right in that the CJ is a faster aircraft with even less fuel burn than
the 52. I can't honestly let the statement go that the CJ will do everything
that the 52 will do. The CJ will do gentleman aerobatics with aplomb. The
CJ is not built for competitive aerobatic instruction, while the 52 is. The
CJ-6 does what I call "nice"
aerobatics. The YAK-52 does RIP YOUR LIPS OFF aerobatics. That's where the real
difference lies. The CJ is a graceful swan. The 52 is a freaking tractor.
Of course the 50 beats both of them. At 17 GPH it does around 158 knots. It's
a weight thing, pure and simple.
If you combine the best of both though, you get a CJ-6 with the Russian M-14PF
engine and a three bladed MT prop. That's a very serious airplane and I would
have to say would be very hard to resist, even if the level of aerobatics is
not "perfect" per se.
Mark Bitterlich
Wearing a flame proof suit
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> <flushjohnson@charter.net>
The 52 is a smaller airplane tha the CJ6. Your airframe would be better off in
a CJ. I would advise you to look a little further at the comparrisions of the
52 and the CJ. The CJ will do every thing the 52 will do and is a better cross
country airplane, hands down. the stock CJ with 285 HP will give you
135 kts at 13 GPH. The 52 will do max 120 kts at 17 gph. Would lile to discuss
further at your convience. I have a great CJ6 forsale.
----- Original Message -----
From: "AKMac" <macjohnson@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
>
> Hi guys. I'm looking into buying a Yak-52 sometime in the next year.
> From my research these aircraft seem like capable aerobatic machines,
> and are relatively easy and inexpensive to maintain. I think they will
> fit my desires perfectly.
>
> This will be my first aircraft purchase and I'm trying to get an idea
> of exactly how much these birds cost to fly. My estimates are about
> $110 an hour wet (at 4.90 a gallon) Does this seem correct or am I way
off here?
>
> Secondly I'm a long legged guy at 6'3" and 250lbs. Now I've flown
> C152's and Super Cubs, and I can tolerate them. But I would really
> like an airplane that is at least somewhat comfortable for me. I
> understand that at my size this is a tall order (pun intended!) but
> how comfortable are these airplanes for you guys?
>
> Anyways I think I have everything else figured out. If there is
> anything odd that is specific to the Yak please bring it to my
attention. Thanks.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211719#211719
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions |
I guess that my Yak is bigger. :-)
I have a 34-35 inch inseam and I'm exactly 6'7" tall. I wear a 52XL jacket.
My callsign is Squatch, short for Sasquatch. :-)
I can squeeze in the back seat too, but it sucks with a capital S.
People ask how I fit myself in the Yak, I tell them it is mind over matter.
If you don't mind, it doesn't matter.
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Pete and Mac, I think a lot of this has to do with torso height and leg
length, the two places where tall people differ.
I have a 34-35 inch leg length. My torso height is 48 inches. I am just
short of 6'7" in height. I can not fit into a YAK-52... Period. Yet, I am
absolutely sure that Mac can (I outweigh you Mac [smile]) My guess is that
Mac might have longer legs than myself and a shorter torso height.
Mac?
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter K. Van
Staagen
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> <petervs@knology.net>
Mac,
I'm 6'7" and 295 lbs. I've flow my stock Yak 52 300 hours in the last two
years with no problems. It's a squeeze and friends laugh when I put the
plane on, but I have enjoyed it thoroughly. The Yak however is a more
capable aerobatics plane if you are into that. Of course, every CJ owner
disagrees.
Les Shockley has apparently modified his Yak 52 front seat to where the seat
was moved back 3 inches at the bottom and 5 at the top, but I have no idea
how he did that and it looks like a rather major mod to me.
I'd be interested in a rudder pedal redesign and a Malcolm canopy if someone
perfects them.
Good Luck.
Pete
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Forrest, you are the man! I love it!
Mac, they can be kind of hard to find now-a-days, but if you can live with a
single seat aircraft, the YAK-50 is one of the best aircraft around for big
guys. I am over 6'6", and my weight is classified for fear someone might
actually plug the numbers in on a weight and balance issue (smile). I can
not fit in a 52 or a CJ-6. However, I can fit into a stock 50 (single seat
model). I have moved the seat back a few inches... An easy mod, and that
leaves me with even more comfort.
Forrest is right in that the CJ is a faster aircraft with even less fuel
burn than the 52. I can't honestly let the statement go that the CJ will do
everything that the 52 will do. The CJ will do gentleman aerobatics with
aplomb. The CJ is not built for competitive aerobatic instruction, while
the 52 is. The CJ-6 does what I call "nice"
aerobatics. The YAK-52 does RIP YOUR LIPS OFF aerobatics. That's where the
real difference lies. The CJ is a graceful swan. The 52 is a freaking
tractor.
Of course the 50 beats both of them. At 17 GPH it does around 158 knots.
It's a weight thing, pure and simple.
If you combine the best of both though, you get a CJ-6 with the Russian
M-14PF engine and a three bladed MT prop. That's a very serious airplane
and I would have to say would be very hard to resist, even if the level of
aerobatics is not "perfect" per se.
Mark Bitterlich
Wearing a flame proof suit
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> <flushjohnson@charter.net>
The 52 is a smaller airplane tha the CJ6. Your airframe would be better off
in a CJ. I would advise you to look a little further at the comparrisions of
the 52 and the CJ. The CJ will do every thing the 52 will do and is a better
cross country airplane, hands down. the stock CJ with 285 HP will give you
135 kts at 13 GPH. The 52 will do max 120 kts at 17 gph. Would lile to
discuss further at your convience. I have a great CJ6 forsale.
----- Original Message -----
From: "AKMac" <macjohnson@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
>
> Hi guys. I'm looking into buying a Yak-52 sometime in the next year.
> From my research these aircraft seem like capable aerobatic machines,
> and are relatively easy and inexpensive to maintain. I think they will
> fit my desires perfectly.
>
> This will be my first aircraft purchase and I'm trying to get an idea
> of exactly how much these birds cost to fly. My estimates are about
> $110 an hour wet (at 4.90 a gallon) Does this seem correct or am I way
off here?
>
> Secondly I'm a long legged guy at 6'3" and 250lbs. Now I've flown
> C152's and Super Cubs, and I can tolerate them. But I would really
> like an airplane that is at least somewhat comfortable for me. I
> understand that at my size this is a tall order (pun intended!) but
> how comfortable are these airplanes for you guys?
>
> Anyways I think I have everything else figured out. If there is
> anything odd that is specific to the Yak please bring it to my
attention. Thanks.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211719#211719
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions |
Ok, well I am then at a total loss Squatch. When I sit in a 52, there is no way
I can turn enough to get my fingers on any of the electrical switches on the
left side. My shoulders hit the sides of the aircraft and I have to turn slightly
sideways. My legs hit the bottom of the instrument panel and I can not deflect
the rudders fully. The stick can not be pulled fully backwards, and my
head hits the canopy unless I sit on the bare metal with not only no chute, but
no padding either.
I am convinced you are right ... Mind over matter.... You're darn tootin~! You're
da man~!
Mark Bitterlich
P.s. I'm a 56 XL, but when I WAS a 52XL, I still could not fit. I really would
love to see how you pull this off someday!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter K. Van Staagen
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> <petervs@knology.net>
I guess that my Yak is bigger. :-)
I have a 34-35 inch inseam and I'm exactly 6'7" tall. I wear a 52XL jacket.
My callsign is Squatch, short for Sasquatch. :-)
I can squeeze in the back seat too, but it sucks with a capital S.
People ask how I fit myself in the Yak, I tell them it is mind over matter.
If you don't mind, it doesn't matter.
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Pete and Mac, I think a lot of this has to do with torso height and leg length,
the two places where tall people differ.
I have a 34-35 inch leg length. My torso height is 48 inches. I am just short
of 6'7" in height. I can not fit into a YAK-52... Period. Yet, I am absolutely
sure that Mac can (I outweigh you Mac [smile]) My guess is that Mac might
have longer legs than myself and a shorter torso height.
Mac?
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter K. Van Staagen
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> <petervs@knology.net>
Mac,
I'm 6'7" and 295 lbs. I've flow my stock Yak 52 300 hours in the last two years
with no problems. It's a squeeze and friends laugh when I put the plane on, but
I have enjoyed it thoroughly. The Yak however is a more capable aerobatics
plane if you are into that. Of course, every CJ owner disagrees.
Les Shockley has apparently modified his Yak 52 front seat to where the seat was
moved back 3 inches at the bottom and 5 at the top, but I have no idea how he
did that and it looks like a rather major mod to me.
I'd be interested in a rudder pedal redesign and a Malcolm canopy if someone perfects
them.
Good Luck.
Pete
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Forrest, you are the man! I love it!
Mac, they can be kind of hard to find now-a-days, but if you can live with a single
seat aircraft, the YAK-50 is one of the best aircraft around for big guys.
I am over 6'6", and my weight is classified for fear someone might actually
plug the numbers in on a weight and balance issue (smile). I can not fit in
a 52 or a CJ-6. However, I can fit into a stock 50 (single seat model). I have
moved the seat back a few inches... An easy mod, and that leaves me with even
more comfort.
Forrest is right in that the CJ is a faster aircraft with even less fuel burn than
the 52. I can't honestly let the statement go that the CJ will do everything
that the 52 will do. The CJ will do gentleman aerobatics with aplomb. The
CJ is not built for competitive aerobatic instruction, while the 52 is. The
CJ-6 does what I call "nice"
aerobatics. The YAK-52 does RIP YOUR LIPS OFF aerobatics. That's where the real
difference lies. The CJ is a graceful swan. The 52 is a freaking tractor.
Of course the 50 beats both of them. At 17 GPH it does around 158 knots.
It's a weight thing, pure and simple.
If you combine the best of both though, you get a CJ-6 with the Russian M-14PF
engine and a three bladed MT prop. That's a very serious airplane and I would
have to say would be very hard to resist, even if the level of aerobatics is
not "perfect" per se.
Mark Bitterlich
Wearing a flame proof suit
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> <flushjohnson@charter.net>
The 52 is a smaller airplane tha the CJ6. Your airframe would be better off in
a CJ. I would advise you to look a little further at the comparrisions of the
52 and the CJ. The CJ will do every thing the 52 will do and is a better cross
country airplane, hands down. the stock CJ with 285 HP will give you
135 kts at 13 GPH. The 52 will do max 120 kts at 17 gph. Would lile to discuss
further at your convience. I have a great CJ6 forsale.
----- Original Message -----
From: "AKMac" <macjohnson@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
>
> Hi guys. I'm looking into buying a Yak-52 sometime in the next year.
> From my research these aircraft seem like capable aerobatic machines,
> and are relatively easy and inexpensive to maintain. I think they will
> fit my desires perfectly.
>
> This will be my first aircraft purchase and I'm trying to get an idea
> of exactly how much these birds cost to fly. My estimates are about
> $110 an hour wet (at 4.90 a gallon) Does this seem correct or am I way
off here?
>
> Secondly I'm a long legged guy at 6'3" and 250lbs. Now I've flown
> C152's and Super Cubs, and I can tolerate them. But I would really
> like an airplane that is at least somewhat comfortable for me. I
> understand that at my size this is a tall order (pun intended!) but
> how comfortable are these airplanes for you guys?
>
> Anyways I think I have everything else figured out. If there is
> anything odd that is specific to the Yak please bring it to my
attention. Thanks.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211719#211719
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions |
I guess my many years as a disadvantaged cave explorer taught me how to be
small when I need to.
Pete
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Ok, well I am then at a total loss Squatch. When I sit in a 52, there is no
way I can turn enough to get my fingers on any of the electrical switches on
the left side. My shoulders hit the sides of the aircraft and I have to turn
slightly sideways. My legs hit the bottom of the instrument panel and I can
not deflect the rudders fully. The stick can not be pulled fully backwards,
and my head hits the canopy unless I sit on the bare metal with not only no
chute, but no padding either.
I am convinced you are right ... Mind over matter.... You're darn tootin~!
You're da man~!
Mark Bitterlich
P.s. I'm a 56 XL, but when I WAS a 52XL, I still could not fit. I really
would love to see how you pull this off someday!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter K. Van
Staagen
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> <petervs@knology.net>
I guess that my Yak is bigger. :-)
I have a 34-35 inch inseam and I'm exactly 6'7" tall. I wear a 52XL jacket.
My callsign is Squatch, short for Sasquatch. :-)
I can squeeze in the back seat too, but it sucks with a capital S.
People ask how I fit myself in the Yak, I tell them it is mind over matter.
If you don't mind, it doesn't matter.
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Pete and Mac, I think a lot of this has to do with torso height and leg
length, the two places where tall people differ.
I have a 34-35 inch leg length. My torso height is 48 inches. I am just
short of 6'7" in height. I can not fit into a YAK-52... Period. Yet, I am
absolutely sure that Mac can (I outweigh you Mac [smile]) My guess is that
Mac might have longer legs than myself and a shorter torso height.
Mac?
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter K. Van
Staagen
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> <petervs@knology.net>
Mac,
I'm 6'7" and 295 lbs. I've flow my stock Yak 52 300 hours in the last two
years with no problems. It's a squeeze and friends laugh when I put the
plane on, but I have enjoyed it thoroughly. The Yak however is a more
capable aerobatics plane if you are into that. Of course, every CJ owner
disagrees.
Les Shockley has apparently modified his Yak 52 front seat to where the seat
was moved back 3 inches at the bottom and 5 at the top, but I have no idea
how he did that and it looks like a rather major mod to me.
I'd be interested in a rudder pedal redesign and a Malcolm canopy if someone
perfects them.
Good Luck.
Pete
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Forrest, you are the man! I love it!
Mac, they can be kind of hard to find now-a-days, but if you can live with a
single seat aircraft, the YAK-50 is one of the best aircraft around for big
guys. I am over 6'6", and my weight is classified for fear someone might
actually plug the numbers in on a weight and balance issue (smile). I can
not fit in a 52 or a CJ-6. However, I can fit into a stock 50 (single seat
model). I have moved the seat back a few inches... An easy mod, and that
leaves me with even more comfort.
Forrest is right in that the CJ is a faster aircraft with even less fuel
burn than the 52. I can't honestly let the statement go that the CJ will do
everything that the 52 will do. The CJ will do gentleman aerobatics with
aplomb. The CJ is not built for competitive aerobatic instruction, while
the 52 is. The CJ-6 does what I call "nice"
aerobatics. The YAK-52 does RIP YOUR LIPS OFF aerobatics. That's where the
real difference lies. The CJ is a graceful swan. The 52 is a freaking
tractor.
Of course the 50 beats both of them. At 17 GPH it does around 158 knots.
It's a weight thing, pure and simple.
If you combine the best of both though, you get a CJ-6 with the Russian
M-14PF engine and a three bladed MT prop. That's a very serious airplane
and I would have to say would be very hard to resist, even if the level of
aerobatics is not "perfect" per se.
Mark Bitterlich
Wearing a flame proof suit
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
--> <flushjohnson@charter.net>
The 52 is a smaller airplane tha the CJ6. Your airframe would be better off
in a CJ. I would advise you to look a little further at the comparrisions of
the 52 and the CJ. The CJ will do every thing the 52 will do and is a better
cross country airplane, hands down. the stock CJ with 285 HP will give you
135 kts at 13 GPH. The 52 will do max 120 kts at 17 gph. Would lile to
discuss further at your convience. I have a great CJ6 forsale.
----- Original Message -----
From: "AKMac" <macjohnson@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Want to buy a Yak-52, have some questions
>
> Hi guys. I'm looking into buying a Yak-52 sometime in the next year.
> From my research these aircraft seem like capable aerobatic machines,
> and are relatively easy and inexpensive to maintain. I think they will
> fit my desires perfectly.
>
> This will be my first aircraft purchase and I'm trying to get an idea
> of exactly how much these birds cost to fly. My estimates are about
> $110 an hour wet (at 4.90 a gallon) Does this seem correct or am I way
off here?
>
> Secondly I'm a long legged guy at 6'3" and 250lbs. Now I've flown
> C152's and Super Cubs, and I can tolerate them. But I would really
> like an airplane that is at least somewhat comfortable for me. I
> understand that at my size this is a tall order (pun intended!) but
> how comfortable are these airplanes for you guys?
>
> Anyways I think I have everything else figured out. If there is
> anything odd that is specific to the Yak please bring it to my
attention. Thanks.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211719#211719
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Hose from Fuel pump to de-bubbler |
Hi All,
I discovered today that the hose that runs from the output side of my
fuel pump to the fuel de-bubbler (the spherical yellow tank on the
firewall) was leaking like a sieve, with gas just dripping out of it all
along it length. To be fair, the hose (like the airplane) dates from
1995 as best I can tell, so there has been more than 12 years of service
life on it. Of course, now I have the problem of how to replace this
hose. Any suggestions? The fittings seem to be OK (the fitting on the
pump side appears to be a banjo fitting, while the fitting on the
de-bubbler side looks like the Russian equivalent of AN...). The hose OD
is just shy of 2 cm, and I have no idea what the ID is. Obviously, my
first choice is to find a supplier for the complete hose (but that
doesn't appear likely at this point), but alternatively, I am willing to
make a new hose if someone can tell me a) what hose to use, and b) what
fittings to use (or how to work the old ones...).
Any ideas?
Scott Poehlmann
Yak 55M N155YK
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| Subject: | Re: Hose from Fuel pump to de-bubbler |
Scott,
I have some bulk fuel hose here and may be able to match what you have. I
would try Jill at M14P INC first as they have a good stock of 52 support
parts. If Jill cannot help you with a hose assembly let me know the ID and
the OD and I'll check my stock.
Always Yakin,
Doug
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Scott Poehlmann <scott-p@texas.net> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I discovered today that the hose that runs from the output side of my fuel
> pump to the fuel de-bubbler (the spherical yellow tank on the firewall) was
> leaking like a sieve, with gas just dripping out of it all along it length.
> To be fair, the hose (like the airplane) dates from 1995 as best I can tell,
> so there has been more than 12 years of service life on it. Of course, now I
> have the problem of how to replace this hose. Any suggestions? The fittings
> seem to be OK (the fitting on the pump side appears to be a banjo fitting,
> while the fitting on the de-bubbler side looks like the Russian equivalent
> of AN...). The hose OD is just shy of 2 cm, and I have no idea what the ID
> is. Obviously, my first choice is to find a supplier for the complete hose
> (but that doesn't appear likely at this point), but alternatively, I am
> willing to make a new hose if someone can tell me a) what hose to use, and
> b) what fittings to use (or how to work the old ones...).
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Scott Poehlmann
> Yak 55M N155YK
>
>
--
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
Phone 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
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| Subject: | Re: Hose from Fuel pump to de-bubbler |
Remove the hose and ship it to Doug Sapp. He will make a new hose for
you using your old ends to the exact same length.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Poehlmann
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Hose from Fuel pump to de-bubbler
Hi All,
I discovered today that the hose that runs from the output side of my
fuel pump to the fuel de-bubbler (the spherical yellow tank on the
firewall) was leaking like a sieve, with gas just dripping out of it
all
along it length. To be fair, the hose (like the airplane) dates from
1995 as best I can tell, so there has been more than 12 years of
service
life on it. Of course, now I have the problem of how to replace this
hose. Any suggestions? The fittings seem to be OK (the fitting on the
pump side appears to be a banjo fitting, while the fitting on the
de-bubbler side looks like the Russian equivalent of AN...). The hose
OD
is just shy of 2 cm, and I have no idea what the ID is. Obviously, my
first choice is to find a supplier for the complete hose (but that
doesn't appear likely at this point), but alternatively, I am willing
to
make a new hose if someone can tell me a) what hose to use, and b)
what
fittings to use (or how to work the old ones...).
Any ideas?
Scott Poehlmann
Yak 55M N155YK
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I just tanked up with 100LL at nearby Bartow (BOW) for $3.55, another nearby airport
had $3.29 before they ran out. How's prices elsewhere? Perhaps airshow budgets
will go farther now.
Craig Payne
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Hi all,,
starting work on my Chang soon,, back seat first. Doing a panel upgrade. so I
have the complete removable center panel section filled with working instruments
for sale.
I repeat, all the instruments work, they will include everything but the a/s and
alt. It also includes the converter for the T&B, and AH.
The panel is included, however the 4 fastners are not.
make me an offer I can't refuse. :D
--------
Mike "Skidmk" Bourget
Ottawa, Ontario
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| Subject: | Help! Need a mechanic in East Texas |
Do you know a good mechanic near Tyler TX? I'm cross country and she's hemmoraging
oil. I need an honest radial engine mechanic. :(
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I wish we had that price......here at EHSE in Holland: $ 11,-- per
gallon........
So, who's complaining there??
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens Cpayne
Verzonden: zaterdag 8 november 2008 4:00
Aan: yak-list
Onderwerp: Yak-List: Fuel costs
I just tanked up with 100LL at nearby Bartow (BOW) for $3.55, another nearby
airport had $3.29 before they ran out. How's prices elsewhere? Perhaps
airshow budgets will go farther now.
Craig Payne
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