Yak-List Digest Archive

Wed 11/12/08


Total Messages Posted: 35



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     0. 12:22 AM - Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists (Matt Dralle)
     1. 12:23 AM - Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m (Nigel Willson)
     2. 12:53 AM - Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m (Yak 55M)
     3. 01:10 AM - Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m (Nigel Willson)
     4. 05:11 AM - Re: Fuel costs (Mozam)
     5. 06:53 AM - Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m (DB2)
     6. 07:06 AM - Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m (Forrest Johnson)
     7. 07:58 AM - Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m (keithmckinley)
     8. 09:03 AM - Yak : [ Etienne Verhellen ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! (Email List PhotoShares)
     9. 11:26 AM - Re: Re: Fuel costs (ByronMFox@aol.com)
    10. 12:39 PM - Re: Fuel costs (keithmckinley)
    11. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: Fuel costs (Kurt Howerton)
    12. 01:09 PM - CJ-6 Instrument Panel CAD file (keithmckinley)
    13. 01:39 PM - Re: Re: Fuel costs (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    14. 01:57 PM - Re: Re: Fuel costs (Robert Langford)
    15. 02:01 PM - Re: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m (Peter K. Van Staagen)
    16. 02:13 PM - Re: CJ-6 Instrument Panel CAD file (doug sapp)
    17. 02:18 PM - Re: CJ-6 Instrument Panel CAD file (keithmckinley)
    18. 02:46 PM - Re: Fuel costs (Mozam)
    19. 02:50 PM - Re: Re: Fuel costs (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
    20. 02:57 PM - Re: Re: CJ-6 Instrument Panel CAD file (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    21. 03:06 PM - Re: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m (Bill Geipel)
    22. 03:11 PM - Re: CJ-6 Instrument Panel CAD file (keithmckinley)
    23. 04:05 PM - OFF TOPIC  (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
    24. 04:36 PM - Re: Fuel costs (Rich Langer)
    25. 04:48 PM - Re: Re: Fuel costs (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
    26. 05:02 PM - Spin on Filter (Dave \)
    27. 05:07 PM - Re: OFF TOPIC  (Bill Geipel)
    28. 05:33 PM - Re: Spin on Filter (Dale)
    29. 05:36 PM - Champion spark plugs (Frank Stelwagon)
    30. 05:48 PM - Re: Champion spark plugs (Dale)
    31. 06:05 PM - Re: Re: Champion spark plugs (A. Dennis Savarese)
    32. 06:22 PM - Spark Plugs (Frank Stelwagon)
    33. 08:17 PM - Re: OFF TOPIC  (Roger Kemp MD)
    34. 10:49 PM - Hot offer parts for CJ-6 aircraft (maggieannya)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:22:13 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
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    Time: 12:23:53 AM PST US
    From: "Nigel Willson" <nigel@yakdisplay.com>
    Subject: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m
    Fuel filter needs a good clean.. From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak 55M Sent: 12 November 2008 00:14 Subject: Yak-List: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m Hi, I would like to know if anyone else has experienced this issue before and can provide some details. During taxi and run-up, all gauges look good. My fuel pressure guage (a Mitchell gauge) reads that the fuel pressure is in the green (above 5 PSI) . After TO and during climb, the pressure drops to the bottom of the green arc (2.5 PSI). The engine seems to behave normally at all ranges (full power and cruise). During descent to land and after landing the fuel pressure seems to rise to the normal ranges again(~5 PSI). My mechanic and I agree that it seems like the fuel pump may be the cause for the issue and a new one is the best course of action. I just wanted to see if anyone else has had this experience efore and can explaint it a little more than just a potentally faulty fuel pump. Thanks, Anthony.


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    Time: 12:53:22 AM PST US
    From: "Yak 55M" <yak55m@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m
    Thanks for the reply Nigel - one question though, if it was a dirty fuel filter wouldn't the fuel pressure show a low value during run-up as well? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Nigel Willson <nigel@yakdisplay.com>wrote : > Fuel filter needs a good clean=85. > > > *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Yak 55M > *Sent:* 12 November 2008 00:14 > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Yak-List: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m > > > Hi, > > I would like to know if anyone else has experienced this issue before and > can provide some details. During taxi and run-up, all gauges look good. My > fuel pressure guage (a Mitchell gauge) reads that the fuel pressure is in > the green (above 5 PSI) . After TO and during climb, the pressure drops to > the bottom of the green arc (2.5 PSI). The engine seems to behave normal ly > at all ranges (full power and cruise). During descent to land and after > landing the fuel pressure seems to rise to the normal ranges again(~5 PSI ). > My mechanic and I agree that it seems like the fuel pump may be the cause > for the issue and a new one is the best course of action. I just wanted to > see if anyone else has had this experience efore and can explaint it a > little more than just a potentally faulty fuel pump. > > Thanks, > > Anthony. > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > * > =========== com/contribution =========== onics.com/Navigator?Yak-List =========== ============* > >


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    Time: 01:10:25 AM PST US
    From: "Nigel Willson" <nigel@yakdisplay.com>
    Subject: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m
    Not necessarily.. Worth a look in my opinion since it's relatively straight forwards to do. Try the easy stuff first! From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak 55M Sent: 12 November 2008 08:53 Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m Thanks for the reply Nigel - one question though, if it was a dirty fuel filter wouldn't the fuel pressure show a low value during run-up as well? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Nigel Willson <nigel@yakdisplay.com> wrote: Fuel filter needs a good clean.. From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak 55M Sent: 12 November 2008 00:14 Subject: Yak-List: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m Hi, I would like to know if anyone else has experienced this issue before and can provide some details. During taxi and run-up, all gauges look good. My fuel pressure guage (a Mitchell gauge) reads that the fuel pressure is in the green (above 5 PSI) . After TO and during climb, the pressure drops to the bottom of the green arc (2.5 PSI). The engine seems to behave normally at all ranges (full power and cruise). During descent to land and after landing the fuel pressure seems to rise to the normal ranges again(~5 PSI). My mechanic and I agree that it seems like the fuel pump may be the cause for the issue and a new one is the best course of action. I just wanted to see if anyone else has had this experience efore and can explaint it a little more than just a potentally faulty fuel pump. Thanks, Anthony. http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List a>http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 05:11:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel costs
    From: "Mozam" <sdalton@hughes.net>
    Craig, Up here in Maryland, my airport, KESN, has about the cheapest 100LL around at $4.50/gal. It was just under $6.00 this summer. Consequently, I've flown my Yak about 50 hours this year and did not go to either Sun & Fun or OSH...just could not afford the gas...cost over $400 to top off the tanks ONE time! Thank goodness for the airshows I did where I left with free full tanks! I had a conversation with the airport manager the other day that really concerned me. He said he is having a hard time finding 100LL to buy for the airport. That's why the price is so high up here -- 100LL is no longer locally available and must trucked here from far away. I hope they start making 100LL's replacement soon! -Steve Dalton Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213720#213720


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    Time: 06:53:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m
    From: "DB2" <maslinwr@yahoo.com>
    According to Mr. Bernoulli, if the effective cross-sectional area of your filter has been reduced due to a clog etc - and not allowing unrestricted flow of the fuel - the pressure loss across the filter will roughly be a function of the square of the flow rate. So, when the fuel flow rate is highest - during take-off and climb - you will see a much greater (or just plain noticeable) drop in fuel pressure as opposed to when the flow rate is low (taxi, descent). During run-up the engine is not under the same load as it is during the climb, and thus the fuel flow rate will be lower. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213734#213734


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    Time: 07:06:24 AM PST US
    From: "Forrest Johnson" <flushjohnson@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m
    Check your vent system. At low power settings a clogged vent will not be as apparent as higher settings. ----- Original Message ----- From: Yak 55M To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 6:14 PM Subject: Yak-List: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m Hi, I would like to know if anyone else has experienced this issue before and can provide some details. During taxi and run-up, all gauges look good. My fuel pressure guage (a Mitchell gauge) reads that the fuel pressure is in the green (above 5 PSI) . After TO and during climb, the pressure drops to the bottom of the green arc (2.5 PSI). The engine seems to behave normally at all ranges (full power and cruise). During descent to land and after landing the fuel pressure seems to rise to the normal ranges again(~5 PSI). My mechanic and I agree that it seems like the fuel pump may be the cause for the issue and a new one is the best course of action. I just wanted to see if anyone else has had this experience efore and can explaint it a little more than just a potentally faulty fuel pump. Thanks, Anthony.


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    Time: 07:58:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    DB2, Well said! Keith 700HS The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps! Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945 -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213747#213747


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    Time: 09:03:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Yak : [ Etienne Verhellen ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available!
    From: Email List PhotoShares <pictures@matronics.com>
    A new Email List PhotoShare is available: Poster: Etienne Verhellen <tis1_verod@scarlet.be> Lists: Yak-List Subject: Shell Smoke Oils http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tis1_verod@scarlet.be.11.12.2008 ---------------------------------------------------------- o Main PhotoShare Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a PhotoShare If you wish to submit a PhotoShare of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ----------------------------------------------------------


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    Time: 11:26:39 AM PST US
    From: ByronMFox@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel costs
    To my surprise, 100LL was $4.10 yesterday at Petaluma Airport (O69) just north of San Francisco. This past weekend it was $4.90. ...Blitz ************** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news &amp; om/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)


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    Time: 12:39:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel costs
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    KBAF best around in New England 3.79 100ll.com what a great web site -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213797#213797


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    Time: 12:55:56 PM PST US
    From: Kurt Howerton <kurt@scitechsys.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel costs
    Wonder if I can make it back to O69 to fill up? -- Kurt Howerton N923YK http://cj6.scitechsys.com ByronMFox@aol.com wrote: > To my surprise, 100LL was $4.10 yesterday at Petaluma Airport (O69) > just north of San Francisco. This past weekend it was $4.90. ...Blitz > > > ************** > Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > > * > > *


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    Time: 01:09:28 PM PST US
    Subject: CJ-6 Instrument Panel CAD file
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    Does anyone know of the availability of a stock CAD file for the CJ instrument panel? Thank You -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213804#213804


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    Time: 01:39:09 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel costs
    Fuel is $3.86 at 28J -Palatka, FL. **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)


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    Time: 01:57:54 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Langford" <randmyak52@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel costs
    Fuel @ 0A3 is $3.30 SS, SYI $3.39 FS. Smithville TN & Shelbyville TN ----- Original Message ----- From: cjpilot710@aol.com To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Fuel costs Fuel is $3.86 at 28J -Palatka, FL. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG. 11/12/2008 10:01 AM


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    Time: 02:01:42 PM PST US
    From: "Peter K. Van Staagen" <petervs@knology.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m
    This reminds me of the first time I did a condition inspection on my Yak. I took out the fine fuel filter and it looked fine, very clean in fact. Then I tried to blow through it and could not hardly blow through it. I put it in my ultrasonic cleaner in some mineral spirits and a bunch of very fine debris came out of the filter. After, I could easily blow through it. Something to think about. Pete __|__ __|__ ----=(*)=---- __|__ ----=(*)=---- __|__ ----=(*)=---- ----=(*)=---- -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DB2 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:53 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m According to Mr. Bernoulli, if the effective cross-sectional area of your filter has been reduced due to a clog etc - and not allowing unrestricted flow of the fuel - the pressure loss across the filter will roughly be a function of the square of the flow rate. So, when the fuel flow rate is highest - during take-off and climb - you will see a much greater (or just plain noticeable) drop in fuel pressure as opposed to when the flow rate is low (taxi, descent). During run-up the engine is not under the same load as it is during the climb, and thus the fuel flow rate will be lower. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213734#213734


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    Time: 02:13:48 PM PST US
    From: "doug sapp" <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: CJ-6 Instrument Panel CAD file
    Keith, I have sold a bunch of the blank panels, but to tell you the truth I really don't know what they used to lay them out or cut them. I plan to install twin Dynon's in my CJ6, so if you do get it in a CAD file I would sure like a copy. Always Yakin, Doug On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:08 PM, keithmckinley <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>wrote: > keith.mckinley@townisp.com> > > Does anyone know of the availability of a stock CAD file for the CJ > instrument panel? > > Thank You > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700 HS > KFIT > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213804#213804 > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 02:18:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ-6 Instrument Panel CAD file
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    Doug, It seems...to get a clean cut panel with a water jet they need to start from scratch. There is a guy I just started talking to at epanel.com that seems to have the CJ panel set up in his system. I'll keep you posted. Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213822#213822


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    Time: 02:46:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel costs
    From: "Mozam" <sdalton@hughes.net>
    Yeah, yeah, you guys all have cheap gas. Must be nice! But, you don't get to live here in the People's Republic of Maryland. This is a state that, and I kid you not, charges sales tax on the air you get pumped into your SCUBA tank. Yes, they tax the air! :x Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213829#213829


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    Time: 02:50:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel costs
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Looks like $2.99 (Self Service) at Suffolk Virginia might be a record! They also sell Mo-Gas right next to the 100LL pump. Can't remember the price, but it's cheap. One guy here in New Bern flew a Cessna 180 and 182 up there that had long range tanks, filled both, then filled the passenger space with large poly fuel tanks. It was actually cheaper to fly to Virginia to get this fuel and then lug it back than it was to purchase it locally. I've never been able to understand how 100LL can vary in price by as much as $2/gallon within a 150 mile ellipse. Maybe some expert can explain it some day. By the bye, Suffolk is a nice place to visit. Lots of heavy iron warbirds including one WHOLE LARGE HANGER full of Russian designed fighter aircraft! You need to walk around and ask... They'll let you in, and you can just walk around and look without supervision. They fly the American made stuff on the weekends typically. So far, none of the Russian stuff has been restored, but a lot of it is in amazingly good condition. Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Fuel costs Fuel is $3.86 at 28J -Palatka, FL. ________________________________ Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!


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    Time: 02:57:09 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: CJ-6 Instrument Panel CAD file
    In a message dated 11/12/2008 5:19:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, keith.mckinley@townisp.com writes: I brought one of Doug's blank panels. I did my own CAD drawings, saved to disk, then took the disk and blank panel to local machine shop with a CNC milling machine, and wooo-la, 1 hour later (actual time on machine) my panel was done. It took the operator 4 hours to program the miller and about 1/2 hour to set up the miller. It took me a couple of days of drawing, double checking clearances, sizes, etc. Remember "garbage in - garbage out of the milling machine." The nice thing about it is, it comes out perfectly done. (That is if the input is correct.) I cut my panel to fit a Blue Mountain box and moved a number instruments around. For instants, I used a 2.25" manifold gage, did away with the RPM gage (went to a digital with the M14P) and moved my altimeter and ASI, in line with the T/B. The T/B I've since replaced with an AP head. That is the nice thing about doing a CAD drawing than CNC milling. It does save some time but save more muscle, cut fingers, and calluses. I don't know a thing about working with a water jet cutter. How small a hole can they cut and how "finished" are the edges? I did this some time ago. Some where in my pile of disks I may have the files for standard cuts outs (3.25"- 2.25") and different hole sizes. These were done in Autocad Light. If I remember the guy a epanel had the CJ panel shape but not the mounting holes locations. That could have changed. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby --> Yak-List message posted by: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> Doug, It seems...to get a clean cut panel with a water jet they need to start from scratch. There is a guy I just started talking to at epanel.com that seems to have the CJ panel set up in his system. I'll keep you posted. Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213822#213822 **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)


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    Time: 03:06:46 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6@mesanetworks.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m
    Oh my God, don't get him started! -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m DB2, Well said! Keith 700HS The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps! Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945 -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213747#213747


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    Time: 03:11:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ-6 Instrument Panel CAD file
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    good question about CNC vs flo-jet but they both seem to be pretty precise...at least on American Chopper! Found a guy who will do the CAD layout with one of Doug's blanks for 125 and cut it for 140. I thought that was pretty damn good Keith The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps! Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945 -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213837#213837


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    Time: 04:05:06 PM PST US
    Subject: OFF TOPIC
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Nov. 10th marked the 233rd anniversary of the Founding of the United States Marine Corps. Nov. 11th Veterans Day, or what used to be called Armistice Day (or Remembrance Day in other parts of the world) being the anniversary of the signing of the Armistice that ended World War I. None of which is appropriate for the YAK-LIST. All of which is appropriate for any American (and many others)to show respect for. Each of us honor the fallen in our own ways and thank the rest who have served. The Marines have always held a special place in their hearts for Eleanor Roosevelt, which she earned and still deserves. Since I am sure you will agree Bill, let's end it like that. Mark Bitterlich Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:06 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m Oh my God, don't get him started! -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m --> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> DB2, Well said! Keith 700HS The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps! Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945 -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213747#213747


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    Time: 04:36:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel costs
    From: "Rich Langer" <rlanger2@COMCAST.NET>
    Leesburg Fla. (KLEE) is $2.94 Self Serve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213849#213849


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    Time: 04:48:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel costs
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    BEATEN! :-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rich Langer Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fuel costs Leesburg Fla. (KLEE) is $2.94 Self Serve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213849#213849


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    Time: 05:02:03 PM PST US
    From: "Dave \"Goatboy\" Jester" <wdjester@cox.net>
    Subject: Spin on Filter
    folks: Anyone try to put a spin on filter (air wolf or otherwise) on a Yak 52? If so, where did you mount it?


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    Time: 05:07:19 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6@mesanetworks.net>
    Subject: OFF TOPIC
    Okay. But I will still volunteer for the missing man. Happy birthday. (Sincerely) I was Air Force but you guys are all right. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:05 PM Subject: Yak-List: OFF TOPIC MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Nov. 10th marked the 233rd anniversary of the Founding of the United States Marine Corps. Nov. 11th Veterans Day, or what used to be called Armistice Day (or Remembrance Day in other parts of the world) being the anniversary of the signing of the Armistice that ended World War I. None of which is appropriate for the YAK-LIST. All of which is appropriate for any American (and many others)to show respect for. Each of us honor the fallen in our own ways and thank the rest who have served. The Marines have always held a special place in their hearts for Eleanor Roosevelt, which she earned and still deserves. Since I am sure you will agree Bill, let's end it like that. Mark Bitterlich Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:06 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m Oh my God, don't get him started! -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m --> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> DB2, Well said! Keith 700HS The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps! Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945 -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213747#213747


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    Time: 05:33:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Spin on Filter
    From: "Dale" <hdinamic@qwest.net>
    I beat that one to death a year ago. Look back at the pictures I posted and you can see my instillation or I can email you the specs. I have a Airwolf but you only need to buy the mounting from one of the CJ guys and then use my install. I will save you a lot of money because Airwolf will sell you a bunch of stuff you don't and can't use. I did send them the install package I did but they never posted it anywhere that I can see. Dale Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213859#213859


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    Time: 05:36:07 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Champion spark plugs
    At the AOPA convention I found that Champion now makes a spark plug for the M14P engine. It is an Iridium Fine Wire Plug Part Number RVL38S 14 MM with the barrel using a metric thread, drops right into the M14P or CJ engine. Not cheap but should last the life of the engine. Frank N23021


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    Time: 05:48:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Champion spark plugs
    From: "Dale" <hdinamic@qwest.net>
    Save your money and do a auto plug conversion. On the M-14 it's the wires that are no good in most cases not the plugs. Then you can use $2 plugs and throw them away. Your engine will run better also. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213863#213863


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    Time: 06:05:27 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Champion spark plugs
    Here's a link to the conversion kit. http://www.yak-52.com/plug_conversion.htm Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Champion spark plugs Save your money and do a auto plug conversion. On the M-14 it's the wires that are no good in most cases not the plugs. Then you can use $2 plugs and throw them away. Your engine will run better also. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213863#213863


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    Time: 06:22:15 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Spark Plugs
    You makes your choices and pay the prices, to each his own. Just passing information. Frank


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    Time: 08:17:08 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp MD" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: OFF TOPIC
    "Off we go into the wild blue yonder!" Go Air Force...err Air National Guard! 33 years (active duty and reserve) and climbing. Happy Birthday Jar Heads and to all my fellow Vets, Thanks for your Service. Past and Present. God Speed, Blue Skies, and Tailwinds, Chec 6 Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:07 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: OFF TOPIC Okay. But I will still volunteer for the missing man. Happy birthday. (Sincerely) I was Air Force but you guys are all right. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:05 PM Subject: Yak-List: OFF TOPIC MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Nov. 10th marked the 233rd anniversary of the Founding of the United States Marine Corps. Nov. 11th Veterans Day, or what used to be called Armistice Day (or Remembrance Day in other parts of the world) being the anniversary of the signing of the Armistice that ended World War I. None of which is appropriate for the YAK-LIST. All of which is appropriate for any American (and many others)to show respect for. Each of us honor the fallen in our own ways and thank the rest who have served. The Marines have always held a special place in their hearts for Eleanor Roosevelt, which she earned and still deserves. Since I am sure you will agree Bill, let's end it like that. Mark Bitterlich Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:06 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m Oh my God, don't get him started! -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fuel pressure gauge drops after TO in Yak 55m --> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> DB2, Well said! Keith 700HS The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps! Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945 -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213747#213747


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    Time: 10:49:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Hot offer parts for CJ-6 aircraft
    From: "maggieannya" <annya_2008@yahoo.com.cn>
    Hi ,This is Maggie from China. We have some hot offer in stock as following: DZ-5 Spark plugs 560 H2-4150-00 Main Gear Actuator 4 H2-4250-00 Nose Gear Actuator 5 Any interesting,pls feel free to contact me. Maggie -------- This is Maggie from Xi'an Li Chuang Electronics. We are Nanchang aircraft parts trader in China Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213891#213891




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