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Mon 12/01/08


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 07:32 AM - Re: M14P prop governor rigging (Larry Pine)
     2. 07:40 AM - Re: M14 prop governor rigging (Barry Hancock)
     3. 08:05 AM - Re: Re: M14 prop governor rigging (Larry Pine)
     4. 08:53 AM - Yak Sack (Bill1200)
     5. 09:40 AM - Re: M14P prop governor rigging (Walter Lannon)
     6. 02:41 PM - Re: Yak Sack (Chris Wise)
     7. 07:02 PM - Re: Yak Sack (Bill1200)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:32:44 AM PST US
    From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: M14P prop governor rigging
    Thanks Walt, Just one clarification..- I am using the stock CJ throttle quad with M14 governor stop plate.- I have both but examined two other CJ6/M14s on the field and they both use the M14 stop plate.- SO I went with that!- I'll give it another try and let you know how it turns out. Larry Pine --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca> wrote: From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca> Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14P prop governor rigging Larry; - You are dealing with a CJ6 throttle quadrant and a CJ6 governor stop plate. Here is the procedure: - 1. Screw the low RPM (high pitch) stop screw all the way IN. - 2. Rotate the governor control shaft full clockwise and install the control arm just short of touching the stop screw. - 3. Ensure that your propellor ( stock 2 blade V530??) is correctly set to a low pitch angle of 14.5 degs +/- 0.1 degs. ( 6 min. - book shows 10 min. b ut you can do better) - 4. Follow the manual procedure for setting the high RPM (low pitch) stop sc rew . In this process ensure that the final setting provides a 1/8 to 1/4 " bounce back of both prop control levers.- This guarantees that the gover nor stop is reached before you run out of quadrant travel and may require a djustment of linkage in both cockpits. You will-not be able to duplicate that at the low RPM (aft) end.- Don't worry about it, just be sure you get all available travel in both cockpits .- - 5. After test flights and final adjustment for 2900 TO RPM-check the pull down from 2050 RPM to full high pitch ( follow procedure in the manual). - If this goes below the 1563 RPM specified it may be adjusted by turning out the low RPM screw. - If you run into any problems contact me.- - Have fun; Walt - ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Pine Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: Yak-List: M14P prop governor rigging Looking for a little advise... I,ve installed an M14 on my CJ and was check ing the initial rigging before flight.- The M14 manual states rig-the P rop control in max pitch with the prop governor full clockwise, unloading t he spring.- Without backing off the max pitch stop screws only gives me a bout 80%.- If I rig it so I can achieve 100%, then I dont have enough mov ement to increase pitch.- I guess the one unknown is this...- When the book states, "rig the governor in max pitch with the control in full max pi tch."- Should I back out the max pitch stop all the way, then rig accordi ngly or is there a bigger secret not stated?- I have verified that the governor does work and will hole rpm at a given se tting. Thanks for the help in advance. Larry Pine - =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 07:40:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: M14 prop governor rigging
    From: "Barry Hancock" <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
    Larry, > > Looking for a little advise... I,ve installed an M14 on my CJ and was > check > ing the initial rigging before flight.- The other little trick is you need to switch the linkages on the throttle lever so that the one going to the engine compartment is attached at the bottom. This gives you more throw and allows for the necessary range of motion to give full sweep on the governor. Otherwise you'll never get the full RPM range.... -- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. office (909) 606-4444 cell (949) 300-5510 www.worldwidewarbirds.com


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    Time: 08:05:11 AM PST US
    From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: M14 prop governor rigging
    Yep, You are correct.- I forgot to add that I did that as well. Thanks Larry Pine --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Barry Hancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> wrote: From: Barry Hancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14 prop governor rigging <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> Larry, > > Looking for a little advise... I,ve installed an M14 on my CJ and was > check > ing the initial rigging before flight.- The other little trick is you need to switch the linkages on the throttle lever so that the one going to the engine compartment is attached at the bottom. This gives you more throw and allows for the necessary range of motion to give full sweep on the governor. Otherwise you'll never get the full RPM range.... -- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. office (909) 606-4444 cell (949) 300-5510 www.worldwidewarbirds.com =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:53:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Yak Sack
    From: "Bill1200" <billdykes52@gmail.com>
    Can someone direct me to whoever supplies/builds these,thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217174#217174


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    Time: 09:40:25 AM PST US
    From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>
    Subject: Re: M14P prop governor rigging
    Hi Larry; I have never seen the M14 stop plate (actually these appear to be an airframe rather than engine part and as far as I know, are not supplied with a new or overhauled engine) and would like to know the difference. If you have the time could you describe that for me off line. Thanks; Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Pine To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:32 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14P prop governor rigging Thanks Walt, Just one clarification.. I am using the stock CJ throttle quad with M14 governor stop plate. I have both but examined two other CJ6/M14s on the field and they both use the M14 stop plate. SO I went with that! I'll give it another try and let you know how it turns out. Larry Pine --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca> wrote: From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca> Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14P prop governor rigging To: yak-list@matronics.com Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 5:20 PM Larry; You are dealing with a CJ6 throttle quadrant and a CJ6 governor stop plate. Here is the procedure: 1. Screw the low RPM (high pitch) stop screw all the way IN. 2. Rotate the governor control shaft full clockwise and install the control arm just short of touching the stop screw. 3. Ensure that your propellor ( stock 2 blade V530??) is correctly set to a low pitch angle of 14.5 degs +/- 0.1 degs. ( 6 min. - book shows 10 min. but you can do better) 4. Follow the manual procedure for setting the high RPM (low pitch) stop screw . In this process ensure that the final setting provides a 1/8 to 1/4 " bounce back of both prop control levers. This guarantees that the governor stop is reached before you run out of quadrant travel and may require adjustment of linkage in both cockpits. You will not be able to duplicate that at the low RPM (aft) end. Don't worry about it, just be sure you get all available travel in both cockpits. 5. After test flights and final adjustment for 2900 TO RPM check the pull down from 2050 RPM to full high pitch ( follow procedure in the manual). If this goes below the 1563 RPM specified it may be adjusted by turning out the low RPM screw. If you run into any problems contact me. Have fun; Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Pine To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: Yak-List: M14P prop governor rigging Looking for a little advise... I,ve installed an M14 on my CJ and was checking the initial rigging before flight. The M14 manual states rig the Prop control in max pitch with the prop governor full clockwise, unloading the spring. Without backing off the max pitch stop screws only gives me about 80%. If I rig it so I can achieve 100%, then I dont have enough movement to increase pitch. I guess the one unknown is this... When the book states, "rig the governor in max pitch with the control in full max pitch." Should I back out the max pitch stop all the way, then rig accordingly or is there a bigger secret not stated? I have verified that the governor does work and will hole rpm at a given setting. Thanks for the help in advance. Larry Pine


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    Time: 02:41:16 PM PST US
    From: "Chris Wise" <wise@txc.net.au>
    Subject: Re: Yak Sack
    Lindsay sinclair from redstarsaviatiion in Sydney Australia makes a real nice Yak sack. Worth the money. Cheers, Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill1200" <billdykes52@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:22 AM Subject: Yak-List: Yak Sack > > Can someone direct me to whoever supplies/builds these,thanks > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217174#217174 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG. 12:00 AM


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    Time: 07:02:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yak Sack
    From: "Bill1200" <billdykes52@gmail.com>
    Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217261#217261




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