---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/08/08: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:25 AM - List of Contributors 2008 (Matt Dralle) 2. 05:23 AM - (Fred Schlafly) 3. 09:17 AM - Flap actuator tube seals (Mark Davis) 4. 09:18 AM - Re: Yak Sack (Bill1200) 5. 10:35 AM - Re: Flap actuator tube seals (A. Dennis Savarese) 6. 01:11 PM - Fuel tank venting problems (SRGraham) 7. 01:15 PM - Fuel tank venting problems (Hawk Aviation) 8. 01:18 PM - Fuel tank venting problems (Hawk Aviation) 9. 01:20 PM - Fuel tank venting problems (Hawk Aviation) 10. 01:22 PM - Fuel tank venting problems (Hawk Aviation) 11. 01:25 PM - Fuel tank venting problems (Hawk Aviation) 12. 01:25 PM - Re: Fuel tank venting problems (A. Dennis Savarese) 13. 01:27 PM - Fuel tank venting problems (Hawk Aviation) 14. 01:28 PM - Re: Fuel tank venting problems (Hawk Aviation) 15. 01:30 PM - Fuel tank venting problems (Hawk Aviation) 16. 01:31 PM - Re: Fuel tank venting problems (Hawk Aviation) 17. 01:33 PM - Fuel tank venting problems (Hawk Aviation) 18. 03:41 PM - Pedal mod (Craig Payne) 19. 03:45 PM - Pedal mod (Hawk Aviation) 20. 03:48 PM - Pedal mod (Hawk Aviation) 21. 04:03 PM - Re: Yak Sack (N642K) 22. 05:02 PM - Housai 285HP Prop Blades Needed (vectorwarbirds@aol.com) 23. 06:42 PM - Re: Re: Yak Sack (Chris Wise) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:25:59 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Yak-List: List of Contributors 2008 Dear Listers, This year's Fund Raiser has drawn to a close and I want to thank everyone that so generously made a contribution this year in support of the Matronics Email List and Forum operation. Your generosity keeps the wheels on this cart and I truly appreciate the many kind words of encouragement and financial reimbursement. If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser, please feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available on the Contribution site for a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution today and still get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2008 List of Contributors current as of 12/7/08! Have a look at this list of names as *these* are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2008.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts around the end of December. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:06 AM PST US From: "Fred Schlafly" Subject: Yak-List: PS Engineering PMA 4000 Audio Panel I have a new, in the box, PMA 4000 audio panel that is not needed and will sell for $625 plus shipping and insurance. They go for $775 from the usual discount avionics shops. Contact me off line if inerested. Fred Schlafly fschlafly@sprynet.com 305-607-5375 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:08 AM PST US From: "Mark Davis" Subject: Yak-List: Flap actuator tube seals My YAK like most others is missing the seals under the rear seat where the flap actuator push pull tube goes out into the wing. Does anyone have a suggestion of a design and material that works well for a replacement. I'm trying to make the back seat a little less drafty for my GIB and maybe keep out a little CO in the process. Mark Davis N44YK ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:18:05 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak Sack From: "Bill1200" Still no reply from Lindsay, any other suggestions? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218231#218231 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:48 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Flap actuator tube seals Although not as perfect as the original covers, I cut a piece of leather to fit over the flap rod hole opening and cut a "spoke" type pattern in the leather that has a vertical cut in it so as to be able to slide the leather over the flap rod and place it against the inside of the fuselage. Affix the leather to the inside of the fuselage with contact cement. It will keep a lot of the drafty air from freezing the ankles off your GIB. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Davis To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Yak-List: Flap actuator tube seals My YAK like most others is missing the seals under the rear seat where the flap actuator push pull tube goes out into the wing. Does anyone have a suggestion of a design and material that works well for a replacement. I'm trying to make the back seat a little less drafty for my GIB and maybe keep out a little CO in the process. Mark Davis N44YK ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:11:50 PM PST US From: "SRGraham" Subject: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems I am seeking information and advice with regard to fuel leaking out of the in board Vent from the starboard tank. I fly an 18T with extended wing tanks. The problem is exclusively the left wing. As ambient temperature increases, pressure develops within the left wing, this results in a trickle of fuel coming out of the left in board vent, under the fuselage immediately inside the wing root. This is immediately stopped by opening the fuel cap of the outboard tank with an audible release of pressure. All ground checks show that all three air vents into the left-hand side are patent, with air flowing into them easily. There is never a problem with fuel starvation, the tanks drain reasonably symmetrically in-flight provided I am straight and level! With the tanks completely full (180 L in the two in board wing tanks and a further 70 L in each of the outboard wing tank), I can trigger the mechanism of fuel coming out of the in board left-hand vent, by doing a fuel drain through the central common feeder tank. I assume that this is beginning a siphon. On one occasion overtime approximately 1 week this resulted in the complete depletion of every drop of fuel in the right pair of fuel tanks. I assume a game that had this was a siphon set up, of unusual nature. My LAME has been over the aircraft, and cannot find a fuel blockage or drain problem anywhere. Has anyone seen this pattern before or have any advice before I open every single screw and panel and pull apart the fuel tanks? Stewart sgyak18t@bigpond.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:15:46 PM PST US From: "Hawk Aviation" Subject: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems Dear yak-list@matronics.com, Your message to Zac was sent to a mailbox that is no longer monitored. Please update your address book. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:18:15 PM PST US From: "Hawk Aviation" Subject: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems Dear yak-list@matronics.com, Your message to Zac was sent to a mailbox that is no longer monitored. Please update your address book. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:20:35 PM PST US From: "Hawk Aviation" Subject: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems Dear yak-list@matronics.com, Your message to Zac was sent to a mailbox that is no longer monitored. Please update your address book. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:22:46 PM PST US From: "Hawk Aviation" Subject: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems Dear yak-list@matronics.com, Your message to Zac was sent to a mailbox that is no longer monitored. Please update your address book. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:29 PM PST US From: "Hawk Aviation" Subject: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems Dear yak-list@matronics.com, Your message to Zac was sent to a mailbox that is no longer monitored. Please update your address book. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:47 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems Stewart, In your first sentence you refer to the inboard vent from the starboard tank. Then in the 3rd sentence your refer to the problem as exclusively from the left tank. If you'll contact me off list, I may be able to give you some guidance on troubleshooting the vent system because I have seen a very similar problem on the 52. Dennis dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: SRGraham To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:11 PM Subject: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems I am seeking information and advice with regard to fuel leaking out of the in board Vent from the starboard tank. I fly an 18T with extended wing tanks. The problem is exclusively the left wing. As ambient temperature increases, pressure develops within the left wing, this results in a trickle of fuel coming out of the left in board vent, under the fuselage immediately inside the wing root. This is immediately stopped by opening the fuel cap of the outboard tank with an audible release of pressure. All ground checks show that all three air vents into the left-hand side are patent, with air flowing into them easily. There is never a problem with fuel starvation, the tanks drain reasonably symmetrically in-flight provided I am straight and level! With the tanks completely full (180 L in the two in board wing tanks and a further 70 L in each of the outboard wing tank), I can trigger the mechanism of fuel coming out of the in board left-hand vent, by doing a fuel drain through the central common feeder tank. I assume that this is beginning a siphon. On one occasion overtime approximately 1 week this resulted in the complete depletion of every drop of fuel in the right pair of fuel tanks. I assume a game that had this was a siphon set up, of unusual nature. My LAME has been over the aircraft, and cannot find a fuel blockage or drain problem anywhere. Has anyone seen this pattern before or have any advice before I open every single screw and panel and pull apart the fuel tanks? Stewart sgyak18t@bigpond.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:27:55 PM PST US From: "Hawk Aviation" Subject: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems Dear yak-list@matronics.com, Your message to Zac was sent to a mailbox that is no longer monitored. Please update your address book. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:28:52 PM PST US From: "Hawk Aviation" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems Dear yak-list@matronics.com, Your message to Zac was sent to a mailbox that is no longer monitored. Please update your address book. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:30:34 PM PST US From: "Hawk Aviation" Subject: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems Dear yak-list@matronics.com, Your message to Zac was sent to a mailbox that is no longer monitored. Please update your address book. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:31:39 PM PST US From: "Hawk Aviation" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems Dear yak-list@matronics.com, Your message to Zac was sent to a mailbox that is no longer monitored. Please update your address book. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:33:22 PM PST US From: "Hawk Aviation" Subject: Yak-List: Fuel tank venting problems Dear yak-list@matronics.com, Your message to Zac was sent to a mailbox that is no longer monitored. Please update your address book. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:41:52 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: Yak-List: Pedal mod I just finished the install of the rudder pedal mod by Barry and test flew. What a difference! Although I had to drill out the 6mm hole to 1/4" at the pivot point and move an airline on the left side. Folks sharing pilot duties with a "Short Round" (USMC jargon for vertically challenged individuals) may have to chamfer the front inside corner with 1/4" radius to get more forward travel. Craig Payne cpayne@joimail.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:45:08 PM PST US From: "Hawk Aviation" Subject: Yak-List: Pedal mod Dear yak-list@matronics.com, Your message to Zac was sent to a mailbox that is no longer monitored. Please update your address book. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:48:08 PM PST US From: "Hawk Aviation" Subject: Yak-List: Pedal mod Dear yak-list@matronics.com, Your message to Zac was sent to a mailbox that is no longer monitored. Please update your address book. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:03:43 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak Sack From: "N642K" I'm just a CJ guy but a Yak Sac sounds like a barf bag to me! Ready for incoming! [Laughing] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218356#218356 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:02:28 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Housai 285HP Prop Blades Needed From: vectorwarbirds@aol.com Need good used or new set of Housai metal prop blades.? Have inter-granular in a set here and need to be replaced.? Contact me off line if you have some or know of some for sale. Thanks, Gary 'Bunndini' Bunn Vector Warbirds USA email:? vectorwarbirds@aol.com ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:52 PM PST US From: "Chris Wise" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak Sack Sounds about the right statement coming from a Chinese Rice Cutter driver. ----- Original Message ----- From: "N642K" Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:33 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak Sack > > I'm just a CJ guy but a Yak Sac sounds like a barf bag to me! > > Ready for incoming! [Laughing] > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218356#218356 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG. 12:00 AM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.