---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/17/08: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:58 AM - Yak 18T Parts (Anthony Hudacek) 2. 06:42 AM - Re: Tough Day in Tampa (Rico Jaeger) 3. 07:38 AM - Re: Tough Day in Tampa (barryhancock) 4. 08:35 AM - EMS for christmas (skidmk) 5. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: Tough Day in Tampa () 6. 09:51 AM - New cockpit picture (Larry Pine) 7. 10:02 AM - I do not want to hear a whisper..... (Hal) 8. 10:53 AM - Re: I do not want to hear a whisper..... (jblake207@COMCAST.NET) 9. 10:53 AM - Re: I do not want to hear a whisper..... (jblake207@comcast.net) 10. 11:06 AM - Re: New cockpit picture (Rico Jaeger) 11. 11:17 AM - Re: I do not want to hear a whisper..... (Herb Coussons) 12. 11:29 AM - Re: New cockpit picture (Larry Pine) 13. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Tough Day in Tampa (Rico Jaeger) 14. 12:32 PM - Re: I do not want to hear a whisper..... (cjpilot710@AOL.COM) 15. 03:58 PM - Re: Tough Day in Tampa (barryhancock) 16. 07:45 PM - What's your CJ aircraft jack look like? (N642K) 17. 08:50 PM - Re: What's your CJ aircraft jack look like? (doug sapp) 18. 08:59 PM - Re: What's your CJ aircraft jack look like? (N642K) 19. 09:09 PM - Re: Re: What's your CJ aircraft jack look like? (doug sapp) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:56 AM PST US From: Anthony Hudacek Subject: Yak-List: Yak 18T Parts Hi all, The alloy arm that the elevator counterbalance weights attach to on my 18T is corroded beyond repair. Does anyone know where I can either buy a good used one or have one machined. Thanks, Ant.=0A=0A=0A Start your day with Yahoo!7 and win a Sony Bravia TV. En ter now http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/?p1=other&p2=au&p3=tagli ne ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:17 AM PST US From: "Rico Jaeger" Subject: Yak-List: Re: Tough Day in Tampa You guys think you're SO cool w/ your sunny weather and ideal, open-cockpit flight conditions. (...and you are!) But my GIB does lingerie modeling, and even at -4 degrees, she has the innate ability to easily melt all the snow and warm my...um..."heart." The moral of the story is...life is a trade-off. You just have to decide what is the better end of the deal. :) >>> "Pilot5517" 12/16/2008 9:58 PM >>> Lets see... Woke up Sunday morning to 51 degree weather. By 10:00am it was down to 24. By 5:00 it was down to 11. Yesterday our high was 3 degrees above zero with a windchill of -20. Today we got up to a whopping 10 above with 4 inches of snow falling since 8:00am. Only in Iowa! Plans are to move to Florida when I retire! If it keeps this up maybe sooner! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219735#219735 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:29 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Tough Day in Tampa From: "barryhancock" Yeah, 3 inches of rain and snow down to 2500' here in SoCal. AND I have to fly an L-39 with 4 F/A-18's again this Friday in a fly over supporting Snowball Express (www.snowballexpress.org). Sometimes this job is extremely difficult. ;) In all seriousness, this is a great charity and I'm so honored to be able to in a small way show appreciation for these families that have made the ultimate sacrifice. I happened to be in the terminal at the Orange County airport yesterday as one of the 5 Snowball Express flights arrived. American Airlines donates these aircraft to fly all over the country picking up families to attend this yearly event that supports over 2000 families of the fallen. As I sat there and watched a young mother of 4 young children, the oldest one about 6 and the youngest an infant, come out of the jet way and greeted by cheering volunteers, I could not help but shed a few tears. 4 kids without a dad who was killed in the name of our freedom. In this season of giving as we celebrate the birth of the He who is the ultimate example of charity, I invite you to visit www.snowballexpress.org and consider making a donation. I can think of no greater cause than supporting those families who have supported us with the ultimate sacrifice. A warm Merry Christmas to you all. Barry -------- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. www.worldwidewarbirds.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219782#219782 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:04 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: EMS for christmas From: "skidmk" Hi, contemplating the DYNON ems for Christmas. (this will be an eventually and additional instrument to their new EFIS) Has anyone installed DYNON into their Chang/YAK? If so, which sensors can we use, which ones can we not use. Has anyone installed another EMS that worked well? Mike -------- Mike "Skidmk" Bourget Ottawa, Ontario Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219790#219790 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:55 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Tough Day in Tampa Pictures please...and not of the snow... ---- Rico Jaeger wrote: > You guys think you're SO cool w/ your sunny weather and ideal, open-cockpit flight conditions. (...and you are!) But my GIB does lingerie modeling, and even at -4 degrees, she has the innate ability to easily melt all the snow and warm my...um..."heart." The moral of the story is...life is a trade-off. You just have to decide what is the better end of the deal. :) > > > > >>> "Pilot5517" 12/16/2008 9:58 PM >>> > > Lets see... Woke up Sunday morning to 51 degree weather. By 10:00am it was down to 24. By 5:00 it was down to 11. Yesterday our high was 3 degrees above zero with a windchill of -20. Today we got up to a whopping 10 above with 4 inches of snow falling since 8:00am. Only in Iowa! > > Plans are to move to Florida when I retire! If it keeps this up maybe sooner! > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219735#219735 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:09 AM PST US From: Larry Pine Subject: Yak-List: New cockpit picture Finally was able to get a good picture of my new cocpit.- Front and back have been completely redone with mostly new instruments, Blue mountain EFIS , Removed all fuel systems and replaced with electric via toggle switches ( highly recommend), integrated monitoring of critial functions, fuel compute r and electric oil shut off with starter interlock.- Picture doesn't show the B5 grips installed yet.- Took 3X longer than originally planned for but I think with all the new stuff and safety add ons.... I think it's wort h it. Larry Pine N8181C - =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:11 AM PST US From: Hal Subject: Yak-List: I do not want to hear a whisper..... Craig, You do this to us every year about this time -- talk about shoveling off sunshine and and how it just sucks to have to use so much sunscreen while keeping your sunglasses on and clean with your canopy back in the perfect 82 degree weather....... Later, when the wind with the strange names like "BashemdownJoe" or "FloodemoutPatty" come to town and you are wondering where your hangar is today or how many cottonmouths or alligators have found refuge from the flood waters in your GIB's seat, I don't want to hear a whisper about it. I only want to hear positive comments. Something like, "It truly is amazing how quickly the sheets dry down here when they are hung out in the 120 knot breeze!" or "I find that my joints are so much more flexible here in the summer when the AC is off." Enjoy the respite Lad - the weather Gremlins are coming up on your six. Batman ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:42 AM PST US From: jblake207@COMCAST.NET Subject: Re: Yak-List: I do not want to hear a whisper..... Touch -------------- Original message -------------- From: Hal Craig, You do this to us every year about this time -- talk about shoveling off sunshine and and how it just sucks to have to use so much sunscreen while keeping your sunglasses on and clean with your canopy back in the perfect 82 degree weather....... Later, when the wind with the strange names like "BashemdownJoe" or "FloodemoutPatty" come to town and you are wondering where your hangar is today or how many cottonmouths or alligators have found refuge from the flood waters in your GIB's seat, I don't want to hear a whisper about it. I only want to hear positive comments. Something like, "It truly is amazing how quickly the sheets dry down here when they are hung out in the 120 knot breeze!" or "I find that my joints are so much more flexible here in the summer when the AC is off." Enjoy the respite Lad - the weather Gremlins are coming up on your six. Batman
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-------------- Original message --------------
From: Hal <yakjock@gmail.com>
Craig,
 
You do this to us every year about this time -- talk about shoveling off sunshine and and how it just sucks to have to use so much sunscreen while keeping your sunglasses on and clean with your canopy back in the perfect 82 degree weather....... 
 
Later, when the wind with the strange names like "BashemdownJoe" or "FloodemoutPatty" come to town and you are wondering where your hangar is today or how many cottonmouths or alligators have found refuge from the flood waters in your GIB's seat, I don't want to hear a whisper about it.  I only want to hear positive comments.  Something like, "It truly is amazing how quickly the sheets dry down here when they are hung out in the 120 knot breeze!"  or "I find that my joints are so much more flexible here in the summer when the AC is off."
 
Enjoy the respite Lad - the weather Gremlins are coming up on your six.
 
Batman
 
 




________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:56 AM PST US From: jblake207@comcast.net Subject: Re: Yak-List: I do not want to hear a whisper..... Touch -------------- Original message -------------- From: Hal Craig, You do this to us every year about this time -- talk about shoveling off sunshine and and how it just sucks to have to use so much sunscreen while keeping your sunglasses on and clean with your canopy back in the perfect 82 degree weather....... Later, when the wind with the strange names like "BashemdownJoe" or "FloodemoutPatty" come to town and you are wondering where your hangar is today or how many cottonmouths or alligators have found refuge from the flood waters in your GIB's seat, I don't want to hear a whisper about it. I only want to hear positive comments. Something like, "It truly is amazing how quickly the sheets dry down here when they are hung out in the 120 knot breeze!" or "I find that my joints are so much more flexible here in the summer when the AC is off." Enjoy the respite Lad - the weather Gremlins are coming up on your six. Batman
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-------------- Original message --------------
From: Hal <yakjock@gmail.com>
Craig,
 
You do this to us every year about this time -- talk about shoveling off sunshine and and how it just sucks to have to use so much sunscreen while keeping your sunglasses on and clean with your canopy back in the perfect 82 degree weather....... 
 
Later, when the wind with the strange names like "BashemdownJoe" or "FloodemoutPatty" come to town and you are wondering where your hangar is today or how many cottonmouths or alligators have found refuge from the flood waters in your GIB's seat, I don't want to hear a whisper about it.  I only want to hear positive comments.  Something like, "It truly is amazing how quickly the sheets dry down here when they are hung out in the 120 knot breeze!"  or "I find that my joints are so much more flexible here in the summer when the AC is off."
 
Enjoy the respite Lad - the weather Gremlins are coming up on your six.
 
Batman
 
 




________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:06:14 AM PST US From: "Rico Jaeger" Subject: Re: Yak-List: New cockpit picture Looks SUPER nice, Larry! CONGRATS!! All you need now is a microwave and fridge... >>> Larry Pine 12/17/2008 11:50 AM >>> Finally was able to get a good picture of my new cocpit. Front and back have been completely redone with mostly new instruments, Blue mountain EFIS, Removed all fuel systems and replaced with electric via toggle switches (highly recommend), integrated monitoring of critial functions, fuel computer and electric oil shut off with starter interlock. Picture doesn't show the B5 grips installed yet. Took 3X longer than originally planned for but I think with all the new stuff and safety add ons.... I think it's worth it. Larry Pine N8181C ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:17:16 AM PST US From: Herb Coussons Subject: Re: Yak-List: I do not want to hear a whisper..... I too recall craig does this every year - Hal, thanks for the reminder us frozen midwesterners can shovel the snow - I used to live in Louisiana where those named storms hit and I guarantee you can't shovel water. And as for California ... I don't really like it when the earth moves either. Think I'll go turn the heat on in the hanger and clean up the oil on the floor !! Herb On Dec 17, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Hal wrote: > Craig, > > You do this to us every year about this time -- talk about shoveling > off sunshine and and how it just sucks to have to use so much > sunscreen while keeping your sunglasses on and clean with your > canopy back in the perfect 82 degree weather....... > > Later, when the wind with the strange names like "BashemdownJoe" or > "FloodemoutPatty" come to town and you are wondering where your > hangar is today or how many cottonmouths or alligators have found > refuge from the flood waters in your GIB's seat, I don't want to > hear a whisper about it. I only want to hear positive comments. > Something like, "It truly is amazing how quickly the sheets dry down > here when they are hung out in the 120 knot breeze!" or "I find > that my joints are so much more flexible here in the summer when the > AC is off." > > Enjoy the respite Lad - the weather Gremlins are coming up on your > six. > > Batman > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:29:09 AM PST US From: Larry Pine Subject: Re: Yak-List: New cockpit picture Got it...- In back where GIB can access it!! Larry Pine --- On Wed, 12/17/08, Rico Jaeger wrote: From: Rico Jaeger Subject: Re: Yak-List: New cockpit picture Looks SUPER nice, Larry! CONGRATS!! All you need now is a microwave and fri dge... - - >>> Larry Pine 12/17/2008 11:50 AM >>> Finally was able to get a good picture of my new cocpit.- Front and back have been completely redone with mostly new instruments, Blue mountain EFIS , Removed all fuel systems and replaced with electric via toggle switches ( highly recommend), integrated monitoring of critial functions, fuel compute r and electric oil shut off with starter interlock.- Picture doesn't show the B5 grips installed yet.- Took 3X longer than originally planned for but I think with all the new stuff and safety add ons.... I think it's wort h it. Larry Pine N8181C - =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:44:19 AM PST US From: "Rico Jaeger" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Tough Day in Tampa Here ya go. My favorite gal at my favorite event. I would send some "real" pix, but I'd be black-balled from the list... >>> 12/17/2008 11:13 AM >>> Pictures please...and not of the snow... ---- Rico Jaeger wrote: > You guys think you're SO cool w/ your sunny weather and ideal, open-cockp it flight conditions. (...and you are!) But my GIB does lingerie modeling, and even at -4 degrees, she has the innate ability to easily melt all the snow and warm my...um..."heart." The moral of the story is...life is a trade-off. You just have to decide what is the better end of the deal. :) > > > > >>> "Pilot5517" 12/16/2008 9:58 PM >>> > > Lets see... Woke up Sunday morning to 51 degree weather. By 10:00am it was down to 24. By 5:00 it was down to 11. Yesterday our high was 3 degrees above zero with a windchill of -20. Today we got up to a whopping 10 above with 4 inches of snow falling since 8:00am. Only in Iowa! > > Plans are to move to Florida when I retire! If it keeps this up maybe sooner! > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219735#219735 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:32:24 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Yak-List: I do not want to hear a whisper..... In a message dated 12/17/2008 2:18:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, drc@wscare.com writes: I love that part of the season too. I relish to thought of the wind in my hair and kicking gators and cottonmouths off my ramp. It just plain invigorating to live life on the edge - so to speak. You sort of feel like a old sea captain on the bridge of his brig, sail set, reefed but square, close hauled to wind. What's really nice, is all those liberal Yankees that buy houses on the shore, takeoff like swamp rabbits from a ripple in the water. (BTW the difference between a "Damn Yankee" and just plain "Yankee" is the damn Yankee stay.) Now those AZ lads have a little too much sunshine. Poor devils, the heat kills the power of those supped up M-14s and they still run in those hills. Something about the heat to brain cell ratio, I think. No guys its best down here in Florida year round. God didn't put hair all over our bodies because he wanted us to be civilized. Not to huddle next to fires wearing furs skins screaming about the pain in our old bones. Best be aviating though blue skies with the canopy back after just being treated to lunch at the airport dinner (which just finished happening :45 ago.) Naaaaa, You'll never convince me otherwise. Pappy I too recall craig does this every year - Hal, thanks for the reminder us frozen midwesterners can shovel the snow - I used to live in Louisiana where those named storms hit and I guarantee you can't shovel water. And as for California ... I don't really like it when the earth moves either. Think I'll go turn the heat on in the hanger and clean up the oil on the floor !! Herb On Dec 17, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Hal wrote: Craig, You do this to us every year about this time -- talk about shoveling off sunshine and and how it just sucks to have to use so much sunscreen while keeping your sunglasses on and clean with your canopy back in the perfect 82 degree weather....... Later, when the wind with the strange names like "BashemdownJoe" or "FloodemoutPatty" come to town and you are wondering where your hangar is today or how many cottonmouths or alligators have found refuge from the flood waters in your GIB's seat, I don't want to hear a whisper about it. I only want to hear positive comments. Something like, "It truly is amazing how quickly the sheets dry down here when they are hung out in the 120 knot breeze!" or "I find that my joints are so much more flexible here in the summer when the AC is off." Enjoy the respite Lad - the weather Gremlins are coming up on your six. 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Try it now. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:58:46 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Tough Day in Tampa From: "barryhancock" That's gotta be the most expensive mod ever on a Red Star aircraft.... -------- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. www.worldwidewarbirds.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219867#219867 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:25 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: What's your CJ aircraft jack look like? From: "N642K" Looking for ideas before I make something myself. Understand gear doors are an issue unless an offcenter jack pad is used? Thanks in advance, Mike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219906#219906 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:00 PM PST US From: "doug sapp" Subject: Re: Yak-List: What's your CJ aircraft jack look like? Mike, A full set of jacks consist of 4 jacks. A "headed" jack which goes under the engine, 2 "stub wing" jacks and a tail support jack. Normal price for a full set of 4 stock Chinese jacks is about $1K, bought seperatly about 250 to 300 each. All have rollers on them so they move easily in the shop. They are screw type, not hyd, so they have no leak down problems if left overnight. All have the proper fittings, off set to clear the gear doors on the stub wing jacks, cly support fittings on the engine jack, and a skid fitting on the tail support jack. Making your own is possible but if you use hyd jacks and feel that you will ever have to leave the aircraft on jacks for a long period of time you should make safety locks to prevent any leaking down as sometimes happens with hyd jacks. Jacking the aircraft without proper support can be very expensive. I have seen one aircraft laying on the shop floor with the jacks sticking up through the wings-- so it can happen. A tail weight or tie dwn ring in the floor can be used instead of the engine and tail jacks, but is it not as secure as having all four jacks under the aircraft especially when it comes time to get up into the cockpit to operate the gear lever. Rather the strain placed on the tail cone while using a weight or tie down is good or bad I really have no idea. Hope all this helps. Doug On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:44 PM, N642K wrote: > > Looking for ideas before I make something myself. Understand gear doors are > an issue unless an offcenter jack pad is used? > > Thanks in advance, > Mike > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219906#219906 > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:36 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: What's your CJ aircraft jack look like? From: "N642K" Thanks Doug and welcome back! Kathleen left some big shoes for you to fill. Cylinder stud bolts are not an in stock item. Any ideas? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219916#219916 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:46 PM PST US From: "doug sapp" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: What's your CJ aircraft jack look like? Mike, Not back yet, stuck in Beijing until the 20th. Cly studs are on order, but 60 days out at the min. Look in the parts books and you can see the jacks or wait till I get back and I'll send you some photos. Gotta run to a meeting, more later. doug On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:59 PM, N642K wrote: > > Thanks Doug and welcome back! Kathleen left some big shoes for you to > fill. > > Cylinder stud bolts are not an in stock item. Any ideas? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219916#219916 > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.