Yak-List Digest Archive

Wed 12/31/08


Total Messages Posted: 5



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:28 AM - Message to Mark (Graeme Frew)
     2. 08:20 AM - Re: Need mechanic TX (Forrest Johnson)
     3. 08:24 AM - Re: Need mechanic TX (bpx2horn@aol.com)
     4. 03:29 PM - Re: Re: Alternator/VR Replacement for the CJ (Yak Pilot)
     5. 03:35 PM - Re: Message to Mark (Yak Pilot)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:28:22 AM PST US
    From: "Graeme Frew" <graemefrew@gmail.com>
    Subject: Message to Mark
    G'day Listers and Mark B inparticular, I've no idea whether what you've suggested will work Mark but it sounds like good stuff to me and I've sent it on to the Avionics guy currently scratching his head over this deal. I certainly appreciate your input. From what I understand the fuse is blowing as soon as the battery is turned on even without the generator running and with most other circuits disconnected. Logic dictates this can't be as hard a problem as it seems but that's why electrics is regarded as a dark science I guess. Sometimes this list throws up some gems.


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    Time: 08:20:36 AM PST US
    From: "Forrest Johnson" <flushjohnson@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Need mechanic TX
    call me 817 366 3150 I am in Roanoke at 52F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "TXYak" <CKeating@peoplepc.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:46 PM Subject: Yak-List: Need mechanic TX > > I'm looking for help completing a Yak 52 project. Need electrical help > with a few items(2 Gear down lights not working, Front starter button > doesn't work, Shower of sparks inop) I'm located in North Dallas at > Aero-Country. > > Chris Keating > CKeating@peoplepc.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221853#221853 > > >


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    Time: 08:24:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Need mechanic TX
    From: bpx2horn@aol.com
    -----Original Message----- From: Forrest Johnson <flushjohnson@charter.net> Sent: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:19 am Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need mechanic TX ? call me 817 366 3150 I am in Roanoke at 52F.? ----- Original Message ----- From: "TXYak" <CKeating@peoplepc.com>? Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:46 PM? Subject: Yak-List: Need mechanic TX? ? >? > I'm looking for help completing a Yak 52 project. Need electrical help > with a few items(2 Gear down lights not working, Front starter button > doesn't work, Shower of sparks inop) I'm located in North Dallas at > Aero-Country.? >? > Chris Keating? > CKeating@peoplepc.com? >? >? >? >? > Read this topic online here:? >? > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221853#221853? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > ? ? ?


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    Time: 03:29:22 PM PST US
    From: Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Alternator/VR Replacement for the CJ
    Keith, not meaning to disagree but, just to add to what you said.--- A Transorb is usually designed to protect against very short duration volta ge spikes.- They are great for EMP type lightning pulse surges and also i nductive field kicks.- Nothing wrong with putting them in an airplane, ot her than the fact that they can act as a fuse when their ratings are exceed ed and simply blow up.- Of course putting a real- fuse in series (like you suggested) will help prevent that. -Voltage Regulator over-voltage fa ilures are usually not transient, but instead sustained.- Typically the e asy way to protect from voltage regulator failure is with some type of crow bar circuit where when an over-voltage (sustained) condition occurs (over a certain "set" voltage), a short circuit occurs that then blows a circuit b reaker, which then opens a relay, which then totally disconnects the power generation source from the aircraft mains.- The small B&C Alternator offe rs a kit that does exactly that.- The bigger B&C has that design protection built right into their voltage regulator itself.- (Good product!)- =0A =0ABeing the cheap SOB that I am, I have stayed with the original generator design because all those folks that are switching to alternators make the price for spare parts pretty darn cheap.- I can usually find a used gener ator for about $100.- Compare that to getting a new alternator for exampl e.- Just my 2 cents.- =0A=0AMark Bitterlich=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________ ___________________=0AFrom: keithmckinley <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>=0ATo : yak-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:32:12 PM=0AS ubject: Yak-List: Re: Alternator/VR Replacement for the CJ=0A=0A--> Yak-Lis t message posted by: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>=0A=0ACrai g,=0A=0AI agree that the alternator would provide a more stable power sourc e but it is not immune from overvoltage (most likely from a faulty VR). A T ransorb surge protector and a fuse would be a nice backup.=0A=0AKeith=0A=0A --------=0AKeith McKinley=0A700 HS=0AKFIT=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic onl ine here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221881#221881 ======


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    Time: 03:35:43 PM PST US
    From: Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Message to Mark
    Thank you Graeme.- Just as an aside... reverse current will occur even wi th the generator running.- It must be over 40%- engine RPM (or more)- to spin it fast enough to stop this.- If the reverse current protection relay was stuck closed, it should blow as soon as electrical MAIN power is turned on.- If the reverse current relay is opening slowly... it could al so happen at idle.- Bottom line, pull the wires of the generator complete ly. ALL of them.- Then test it.- =0A=0AAlso, before much longer.. use t he light bulb current limiter trick- in place of the fuse so that wiring does not go up in smoke.- 50 amps or more is a significant current draw. - That's the same as 1.4 KW and that is a LOT of heat.- =0A=0ABest of l uck. =0A=0AMark Bitterlich=0A=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A____________________________ ____=0AFrom: Graeme Frew <graemefrew@gmail.com>=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.co m=0ASent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 5:26:32 AM=0ASubject: Yak-List: Mess age to Mark=0A=0AG'day Listers and Mark B inparticular,=0AI've no idea whet her what you've suggested will work Mark but it sounds like good stuff to m e and I've sent it on to the Avionics guy currently scratching his head ove r this deal. I certainly appreciate your input. From what I understand the fuse is blowing as soon as the battery is turned on even without the genera tor running and with most other circuits disconnected. Logic dictates this can't be as hard a problem as it seems but that's why electrics is regarded as a dark science I guess.=0ASometimes this list throws up some gems.=0A ===0A




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