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Sun 01/18/09


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 01:10 AM - Re: strange behaviour pressure gauge (Jan Mevis)
     2. 08:40 AM - Re: Newbie... (Terry Calloway)
     3. 08:40 AM - Need exhaust (Terry Calloway)
     4. 09:40 AM - Re: Need exhaust (doug sapp)
     5. 09:46 AM - CJ6 engine mount (David Sproule)
     6. 09:49 AM - Re: Need exhaust (Jim Selby)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:10:28 AM PST US
    From: "Jan Mevis" <jan.mevis@informavia.be>
    Subject: strange behaviour pressure gauge
    The ambient temperature of the hangar with the Yak 50 and the Yak 52 is at 2 degrees Celsius now for a couple of days. We also heated the cockpit with a small heat gun. After depleting the pressure lines, the main pressure indicator still kept indicating 110 kg / cm=C2=B2 on the 52 and 90 kg/cm=C2=B2 on the 50. When taking out the pressure gauges (relatively easy: only unscrew one bolt right above in the panel, the one that does not have a =9Ccross=9D; this bolt opens up a large ring at the inside of the panel; this ring clamps the instrument; when opened up, you can push the instrument out of the panel =93 SLOWLY =93 and deconnect the pressure lines), so when taking out the gauges and deconnecting the lines, quite some water came out of the lines. But without pressure, the main gauge still was at 60 kg/cm=C2=B2. This means that the main pressure of the 52 was 50 kg/cm=C2=B2 and only 30 kg/cm=C2=B2 on the 50. Normal situation. So we opened up the instrument. A very tiny tube goes from the orifice to a kind of half-circular box. This half circle stretches by the air pressure, and thus operates a tiny needle indicator system. It looks quite fragile, just as in the inside of a swiss watch. There are two half circular boxes, one for the main and one for the emergency pressure. But only the emergency can be =9Cset=9D by two of the four screws that hold the instrument housing. Two of the four bolts are longer. For the main indicator, the only way =93 I suppose - to set it to zero again, is by gently pushing on the half circular box until the needle is at zero again. We already mounted the pressure gauge back into the Yak 52, and did about 30 kg / cm=C2=B2 pressure in the aircraft. Now we=99ll wait for a few days to see if it remains constant. This is probably not the correct procedure to reset the gauge. Probably the instrument needs to be overhauled. All the best, Jan Mevis YK50 RA2005K From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis Sent: maandag 12 januari 2009 18:09 Subject: RE: Yak-List: strange behaviour pressure gauge Thank you all for the ideas. So, the different possibilities: - Frozen water in the lines; if that is the case, the problem should disappear after warming up the aircraft (we=99ll put a small bathroom heater with thermostate inside the cockpits to check, since it is still way too cold here); - An obstruction at the entrance of the gauges; if the first option does not work, we=99ll take the gauges out to verify the orifice at the entrance; - Gauges severely damaged in one way or another (apparently they have seen cracked up gauges in Russia in times of extreme cold) , in which case they have to be replaced. As soon as I have a conclusive result, I=99ll inform the list. It will be interesting to see if both the Yak 50 and the Yak 52 have the same diagnosis. Jan Mevis YK50 RA2005K From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nc69666@aol.com Sent: maandag 12 januari 2009 17:03 Subject: Re: Yak-List: strange behaviour pressure gauge Remove the pressure gauge and check the orface where the air pressure enters the instrument, I had a similular occurance on my CJ, I found the opening with a small amount of corrision in the opening, It is made of brass.. What I did was to take a very fine probe and worked the blockage out ot the opening, there was some pressure trapped in the instrument so when I loosened the obstruction, the pressure in the gauge blew the debris out of the opening.. It has worked fine ever since.. Gary CJ N22YK -----Original Message----- From: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be> Sent: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 9:50 pm Subject: Yak-List: strange behaviour pressure gauge We=99ve had some unusually cold weather here in Western Europe (-20 degrees celsius in Namur, Belgium). I don=99t know if there=99s any correlation, but the needle of the main pressure gauge in my Yak 50 is now in the other half of the instrument (at the side of the emergency pressure indicator) at about two o=99clock. Emergency pressure is still at the normal 60 kg/cm=C2=B2. The aircraft was last flown at the end of december 2008, just before the extremely cold weather. And at that time everything was normal. I have depleted the main pressure system completely. The needle moved back to the left a little, and stopped at about 11 o=99clock. The amount of motion to the left of the needle when depleting could correspond with a presence of about 30 kg/cm=C2=B2 in the main circuit (quite normal in my Yak 50 after some time). I charged again until I heard the relief valve. I know that this corresponds with 50 kg/cm=C2=B2, but the needle of the main pressure was again at two o=99clock. Of course the instrument may be broken, but even stranger: in the same hangar we have a Yak 52 WITH EXACTLY THE SAME PHENOMENON. In this 52, the needle of the main pressure is also at about two o=99clock. Although the pressure on this aircraft must have been relatively normal, because we could start it without difficulties. Has anyone seen this before ? Jan Mevis Yak 50 RA2005K t=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ://forums.matronics.com lank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution _____ Listen to 350+ music, sports, & news radio stations FREE while you browse. <http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000022 > Start Listening Now! http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 08:40:07 AM PST US
    From: Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Newbie...
    Hi Bill, Great to see we finally converted you. Check with Keith Harbour at Avcraft in Nebraska. He will likely have what you are looking for. tc On Jan 16, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Bill VonDane wrote: > I just wanted to introduce myself as a new Yak 52 owner... I used > to fly an RV-8A that I built but recently traded it for the > Yak.....and actually am in need of a check valve for my E-air system > if any has one or knows where I can get one... > > Thanks! > > -Bill VonDane > www.vondane.com > > ps... I'm in Colorado at Meadow Lake Airport - 00V, and my business > is instrument panel design, CAD, cutting, and building for > experimentals - www.whiskeyvictor.com... > >


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    Time: 08:40:07 AM PST US
    From: Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com>
    Subject: Need exhaust
    Hi Gang, I am in the middle of swapping from the Housai to M14P and I am looking for an exhaust to work on the Nanchang with the M14. I would like one with a heater if possible and would also prefer an exhaust with slip joints. Any assistance in helping me locate on would be greatly appreciated. I have some parts for sale which I will no longer need including the SS exhaust with heater from the Housai AND and M14 Carburetor since I will be using the fuel injection. Contact me at 620-875-9450 or the email shown. Thanks; Pumper


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    Time: 09:40:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Need exhaust
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Terry, Unless there is some reason why you don't prefer to use the 285 hp exhaust system why don't you just change the nuts and install it on your M14P? Always Yakin, Doug On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com>wrote: > > Hi Gang, > I am in the middle of swapping from the Housai to M14P and I am looking for > an exhaust to work on the Nanchang with the M14. I would like one with a > heater if possible and would also prefer an exhaust with slip joints. Any > assistance in helping me locate on would be greatly appreciated. > > I have some parts for sale which I will no longer need including the SS > exhaust with heater from the Housai AND and M14 Carburetor since I will be > using the fuel injection. > > Contact me at 620-875-9450 or the email shown. > > Thanks; > Pumper > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 09:46:18 AM PST US
    From: "David Sproule" <davids@dccnet.com>
    Subject: CJ6 engine mount
    Hello All, I am looking for an UNservicable engine mount to build a rotisserie for the CJ. Any information or suggestions appreciated. Thanks you. Best regards, David Sproule


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    Time: 09:49:48 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Selby" <alikatz@mbay.net>
    Subject: Re: Need exhaust
    Pumper, Try these guys: www.aircraftexhaust.net 1-800-770-7287 Richard Princeton, MN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Calloway" <terrycalloway@mac.com> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: Yak-List: Need exhaust > > Hi Gang, > I am in the middle of swapping from the Housai to M14P and I am > looking for an exhaust to work on the Nanchang with the M14. I would > like one with a heater if possible and would also prefer an exhaust > with slip joints. Any assistance in helping me locate on would be > greatly appreciated. > > I have some parts for sale which I will no longer need including the > SS exhaust with heater from the Housai AND and M14 Carburetor since I > will be using the fuel injection. > > Contact me at 620-875-9450 or the email shown. > > Thanks; > Pumper > > > > >




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