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Sun 01/25/09


Total Messages Posted: 16



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:43 AM - Flap down (jlpartington@att.net)
     2. 06:59 AM - Re: CJ6 engine mount (Marcus Bates)
     3. 07:41 AM - Cockpit placards (Ira Saligman)
     4. 07:52 AM - Yak 50 tailwheel bearings (Ira Saligman)
     5. 07:54 AM - Re: Cockpit placards (jblake207@COMCAST.NET)
     6. 08:07 AM - Smoke (Barry Hancock)
     7. 09:15 AM - Re: Cockpit placards (Jim Selby)
     8. 12:43 PM - Re: Smoke (Kurt Howerton)
     9. 01:26 PM - Re: Smoke (ByronMFox@aol.com)
    10. 04:03 PM - Aircraft Models (Frank)
    11. 04:39 PM - Re: Smoke (barryhancock)
    12. 04:48 PM - Re: Smoke (Kurt Howerton)
    13. 04:52 PM - Re: Smoke (Yak Pilot)
    14. 05:03 PM - Re: Smoke (barryhancock)
    15. 05:38 PM - Re: Smoke (Jim Selby)
    16. 06:02 PM - Re: smoke nozzles (Craig Winkelmann)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:43:10 AM PST US
    From: jlpartington@att.net
    Subject: Flap down


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    Time: 06:59:57 AM PST US
    From: "Marcus Bates" <mlbjr@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: CJ6 engine mount
    ----- Original Message ----- From: David Sproule To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 11:45 AM Subject: Yak-List: CJ6 engine mount Hello All, I am looking for an UNservicable engine mount to build a rotisserie for the CJ. Any information or suggestions appreciated. Thanks you. Best regards, David Sproule David....contact me off-list about the mount. mlbjr@earthlink.net. Marcus


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    Time: 07:41:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Cockpit placards
    From: "Ira Saligman" <ira.saligman@verizon.net>
    Can anyone recomend a place to make custom placards for the cockpit? I was thinking of putting various acro And stall airspeeds as well as the t/o checklist. Ira Ira Saligman Sent via BlackBerry


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    Time: 07:52:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Yak 50 tailwheel bearings
    From: "Ira Saligman" <ira.saligman@verizon.net>
    Does anyone know the size of the Tailwheel bearing for a yak 50? Ira Ira Saligman Sent via BlackBerry


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    Time: 07:54:23 AM PST US
    From: jblake207@COMCAST.NET
    Subject: Re: Cockpit placards
    Contact Walt at wlannon@persona.ca -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Ira Saligman" <ira.saligman@verizon.net> > > Can anyone recomend a place to make custom placards for the cockpit? > > I was thinking of putting various acro And stall airspeeds as well as the t/o > checklist. > > Ira > Ira Saligman > > Sent via BlackBerry > > > > <html><body> <DIV>Contact Walt at <A href="mailto:wlannon@persona.ca">wlannon@persona.ca</A></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> com/Na <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 08:07:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Smoke
    From: "Barry Hancock" <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
    I have a Blackwell system in my CJ. It is a custom system with 7 gallon capacity and works well. I like it. However, it is expensive (about $2500 installed when I did it in 2005). Along comes Smoking Airplanes. After talking with Blitz Fox I decided to install one of their systems in the Yak-50 as I needed a system quick for an upcoming airshow. It is relatively in expensive ($1500 installed), high quality, EVERYTHING you need is provided, good installation instructions, John the owner is a great guy and will help any way he can, and the whole system can be installed in a day. I now put them in all our customers airplanes. I do not get anything out of this endorsement other than knowing that I'm recommending what I feel to be the best bang for the buck out there. If you want higher capacity and a schmancy system, Blackwell's is the way to go in a CJ. More dense smoke you will not find. As for the nozzle placement, obviously many have experimented with placement. I second Richard's placement of highest in the last stack...near cyls 3/4 and/or 6/7. This way you avoid residue out the joints and pressure build up inside the exhaust. According to Blackwell, pressure seems to be an important issue in getting good, dense smoke. Higher pressure yields a greater atomization of the oil and a more complete burn. Again, Blackwell's system consistently produces the densest smoke I've seen and he's now using a 90 psi pump, I believe. I've attached a few pics. The first one is my CJ with Blackwell's system (dual injectors) and the other one is a formation shot. The Yak-50 (still for sale) is in the middle. Blackwell system on the right, and another system on the left. Happy Smokin'! -- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. office (909) 606-4444 cell (949) 300-5510 www.worldwidewarbirds.com


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    Time: 09:15:03 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Selby" <alikatz@mbay.net>
    Subject: Re: Cockpit placards
    Ira, Contact Walt Lannon, he does them for the CJ's, I'm not about the Yaks... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ira Saligman" <ira.saligman@verizon.net> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:30 AM Subject: Yak-List: Cockpit placards > > Can anyone recomend a place to make custom placards for the cockpit? > > I was thinking of putting various acro And stall airspeeds as well as the > t/o checklist. > > Ira > Ira Saligman > > Sent via BlackBerry > > >


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    Time: 12:43:27 PM PST US
    From: Kurt Howerton <kurt@scitechsys.com>
    Subject: Re: Smoke
    I just had a Smoking Airplanes system installed. Works great! The only issue we have right now is smoke getting into the cockpit. We've sealed up the holes in the wheel wells with little effect. Most of the smoke seems to enter the rear pit. What other problem areas we should look at? -- Kurt Howerton N923YK http://cj6.scitechsys.com Barry Hancock wrote: > I have a Blackwell system in my CJ. It is a custom system with 7 gallon > capacity and works well. I like it. However, it is expensive (about > $2500 installed when I did it in 2005). Along comes Smoking Airplanes. > After talking with Blitz Fox I decided to install one of their systems in > the Yak-50 as I needed a system quick for an upcoming airshow. It is > relatively in expensive ($1500 installed), high quality, EVERYTHING you > need is provided, good installation instructions, John the owner is a > great guy and will help any way he can, and the whole system can be > installed in a day. I now put them in all our customers airplanes. I do > not get anything out of this endorsement other than knowing that I'm > recommending what I feel to be the best bang for the buck out there. If > you want higher capacity and a schmancy system, Blackwell's is the way to > go in a CJ. More dense smoke you will not find. > > As for the nozzle placement, obviously many have experimented with > placement. I second Richard's placement of highest in the last > stack...near cyls 3/4 and/or 6/7. This way you avoid residue out the > joints and pressure build up inside the exhaust. > > According to Blackwell, pressure seems to be an important issue in getting > good, dense smoke. Higher pressure yields a greater atomization of the > oil and a more complete burn. Again, Blackwell's system consistently > produces the densest smoke I've seen and he's now using a 90 psi pump, I > believe. > > I've attached a few pics. The first one is my CJ with Blackwell's system > (dual injectors) and the other one is a formation shot. The Yak-50 (still > for sale) is in the middle. Blackwell system on the right, and another > system on the left. > > Happy Smokin'! > > >


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    Time: 01:26:02 PM PST US
    From: ByronMFox@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Smoke
    Come on, Kurt. Be a man. Suck it up quite literally:) Sad to say our CJs leak air like a sieve. Negative pressure inside the cockpit. Most of it is probably coming in around the bottom of the aft canopy. ...Blitz In a message dated 1/25/2009 12:44:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, kurt@scitechsys.com writes: The only issue we have right now is smoke getting into the cockpit. We've sealed up the holes in the wheel wells with little effect. Most of the smoke seems to enter the rear pit. What other problem areas we should look at? **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! cemailfooterNO62)


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    Time: 04:03:10 PM PST US
    From: "Frank" <frank@orionite.com>
    Subject: Aircraft Models
    YAK-52 and many other types of models. http://air.scale-model-kits.com/products/Yak-52-two-seat-sporting-aircraf t-AMO7270.html Regards Frank


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    Time: 04:39:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Smoke
    From: "barryhancock" <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
    Doug Sapp posted a nice piece on this recently. Craig Payne has done extensive work in this area. The *easiest* fixes are extensions on the exhaust and louvered panels. It's definitely a problem that should not be ignored. Speaking of which, we have recently developed a SS slip joint system including said extensions working with Aircraft Exhaust Systems, as well as a dual heat muff system for the M14P....pretty slick. Dual heat muffs allow independent operation and distribution of heat in the individual cockpits. [Wink] -------- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. www.worldwidewarbirds.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226778#226778


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    Time: 04:48:10 PM PST US
    From: Kurt Howerton <kurt@scitechsys.com>
    Subject: Re: Smoke
    I guess I'll have to get used to my gib going: "cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough" :0) K ByronMFox@aol.com wrote: > Come on, Kurt. Be a man. Suck it up quite literally:) Sad to say our > CJs leak air like a sieve. Negative pressure inside the cockpit. Most > of it is probably coming in around the bottom of the aft canopy. ...Blitz > > In a message dated 1/25/2009 12:44:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > kurt@scitechsys.com writes: > > The only issue we have right now is smoke getting into the cockpit. > We've sealed up the holes in the wheel wells with little effect. > Most of > the smoke seems to enter the rear pit. What other problem areas we > should look at? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ** > * > *


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    Time: 04:52:59 PM PST US
    From: Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Smoke
    Remember... if you are choking on smoke, you are also sucking in carbon-mon oxide all the time just as well.- Doc Kemp has a ton to say regarding thi s, and it is worth listening to.- Carbon-monoxide poisoning is insidious and can really do a number on judgment and reaction time. =0A=0AMark Bitter lich=0AN50YK=0A=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: " ByronMFox@aol.com" <ByronMFox@aol.com>=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:21:17 PM=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: Smoke=0A=0ACo me on, Kurt. Be a man. Suck it up quite literally:)- Sad to say our CJs l eak air like a sieve. Negative pressure inside the cockpit. Most of it is p robably coming in around the bottom of the aft canopy. ...Blitz=0A=0AIn a m essage dated 1/25/2009 12:44:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, kurt@scitechsys .com writes:=0AThe only issue we have right now is smoke getting into the c ockpit.=0AWe've sealed up the holes in the wheel wells with little effect. Most of=0Athe smoke seems to enter the rear pit. What other problem areas w e=0Ashould look at?=0A=0A________________________________=0AA Good Credit 1 5855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.a spx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62"> See yours in jus ==============


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    Time: 05:03:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Smoke
    From: "barryhancock" <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
    Actually, louvered panels are easy and inexpensive. And it's not only your GIB, but you as well. And like Mark says...all the smoke is doing is coloring what is there ALL THE TIME! B -------- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. www.worldwidewarbirds.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226787#226787


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    Time: 05:38:55 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Selby" <alikatz@mbay.net>
    Subject: Re: Smoke
    Kurt, When it gets silent from your GIB in the back, that's when you worry!!!! coughings good... ; ))) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Howerton" <kurt@scitechsys.com> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Smoke > > I guess I'll have to get used to my gib going: "cough, cough, cough, > cough, cough, cough, cough" > > :0) > > K > > > ByronMFox@aol.com wrote: >> Come on, Kurt. Be a man. Suck it up quite literally:) Sad to say our >> CJs leak air like a sieve. Negative pressure inside the cockpit. Most >> of it is probably coming in around the bottom of the aft canopy. ...Blitz >> >> In a message dated 1/25/2009 12:44:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> kurt@scitechsys.com writes: >> >> The only issue we have right now is smoke getting into the cockpit. >> We've sealed up the holes in the wheel wells with little effect. >> Most of >> the smoke seems to enter the rear pit. What other problem areas we >> should look at? >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ** >> * >> * > > >


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    Time: 06:02:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: smoke nozzles
    From: "Craig Winkelmann" <capav8r@gmail.com>
    Why not just order a whole kit from smoking airplanes? All there, simple to install and it works. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226801#226801




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