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1. 12:20 AM - OT: Advanced Spinning (Andrew Love)
2. 12:47 AM - Re: OT: Advanced Spinning (Richard Goode)
3. 02:40 AM - How stupid can you be.... (Jerome van der Schaar)
4. 06:11 PM - Gear Reduction (Craig Winkelmann)
5. 07:32 PM - Re: Gear Reduction (Walter Lannon)
6. 08:35 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 02/22/09 (Skip Slyfield)
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| Subject: | OT: Advanced Spinning |
Hi folks=2C
Well it isn't exactly off topic=2C but is more a general query. The New Zea
land CAA recently put out a new booklet (to add to their current series on
various topics for pilots)=2C this new one is about spinning. A very intere
sting read=2C I was just interested to find out your thoughts on the follow
ing=3B
It says in this booklet that flat spins have a slower rotation than normal
spins=2C and it just appears that the rotation is faster from the view of t
he pilot as "the scenery" is moving faster.
Imm=2C can't say I completely agree with that but does anyone have any comm
ents on this?
My main argument is if a fully developed positive flat spin takes longer fo
r the same control inputs for recovery to occur=2C than the normal spin=2C
surely it must be spinning faster (yawing as opposed to rolling as in the i
nitial entry)=2C with the subsequent reduced rate of decent.
regards=2C
Andrew Love
Andrew Love Contracting
trading as
AWL Air Services
and
Nu Look Window Cleaning Services
F +64 3 342 5189 I M +64 21 818 816
From: ccox@aerialgroup.net
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
Well guys I do have a prop but there was slot of info held
back about the aircraft when I bought it. I thank everyone for the advise
I'm going to pass on this plane and keep looking
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 22=2C 2009=2C at 1:14 AM=2C Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr Cox=2C it seems rather clear that you fully well intend to ignore the a
dvice of some of the best experts on this list server. You want to ferry t
his aircraft home=2C and by God=2C you are going to do that no matter how m
any people (who are far more experienced than you) suggest otherwise. You
appreciate their well meaning advice=2C but really let's face it=2C you ma
de up your mind about this quite some time ago=2C and you really do not wan
t to be confused with any facts that might change your decision.
As for insurance=2C ......of course you will not have any. Anyone who know
s the true circumstances of this flight would never insure your aircraft to
begin with. Of course it is YOUR MONEY... but you honestly can not be sur
e that should the worst happen=2C that it will just be you that gets hurt o
r dies. You clearly could end up killing someone else in the process.
Of course everyone that has read your comments has had these thoughts go t
hrough their mind. A wise person would just shake their head and walk away
. I am sure a lot of readers have done just that. But you see=2C anyone o
n this system will tell you... I have a big mouth. But I also pride myself
on doing my very best to tell the truth=2C no matter where the cards fall
. So read the following carefully:
"Life's tough=2C it's even tougher if you're stupid". - John Wayne
I know in my heart that there is nothing anyone can say that will change yo
ur mind . So=2C I will wish you the best of luck and will honestly say a p
rayer for you. However=2C there is not a chance in hell that I will help y
ou find a prop to fly your YAK-55 home and I truly hope everyone else feels
the same way. If this upsets you=2C then so be it. I see no valid reason
why any person on this list should help you do something that we all know
is less than safe and in fact borders on reckless. Yes=2C I know I am goin
g to catch a lot of grief for being less than politically correct with this
message=2C but my conscience simply will not allow me to bury my head in t
he sand on this one.
Best Regards=2C .
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>
Sent: Saturday=2C February 21=2C 2009 8:05:36 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
Chris=3B
I very seriously suggest that you truck it home. In addition to possible
internal engine damage the broken engine mount is an indicator of possible
airframe damage as well.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Cox" <ccox@aerialgroup.net>
Sent: Saturday=2C February 21=2C 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
> ahhh ok thanks...Well what happened was that it took about 3
> inchs of the tip off and it set and it was vibrating so bad
> it broke the mount! Im not trying to get out of what i need
> to do just trying to get it home so working on it would be
> easy.I thanks this group a lot for the insite and sure i
> will have more questions.Still looking for a prop to buy/use
> to ferry it home.
>
> Chris Cox
> Aerial Acquisition
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> ccox@aerialgroup.net
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| Subject: | Re: OT: Advanced Spinning |
The reason that a flat spin takes longer to recover is that the aircraft
will have developed a much higher level of rotational inertia [engine at
the front is going through a much wider arc while spinning] and it
therefore takes longer for this energy to be disapated,which you must do
to recover.
This is particularly true of aircraft like the Yak52 which has a heavy
engine and nosewheel at the front,and radio gear etc behind the cockpit.
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Love
To: Yak server
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:19 AM
Subject: Yak-List: OT: Advanced Spinning
Hi folks,
Well it isn't exactly off topic, but is more a general query. The New
Zealand CAA recently put out a new booklet (to add to their current
series on various topics for pilots), this new one is about spinning. A
very interesting read, I was just interested to find out your thoughts
on the following;
It says in this booklet that flat spins have a slower rotation than
normal spins, and it just appears that the rotation is faster from the
view of the pilot as "the scenery" is moving faster.
Imm, can't say I completely agree with that but does anyone have any
comments on this?
My main argument is if a fully developed positive flat spin takes
longer for the same control inputs for recovery to occur, than the
normal spin, surely it must be spinning faster (yawing as opposed to
rolling as in the initial entry), with the subsequent reduced rate of
decent.
regards,
Andrew Love
Andrew Love Contracting
trading as
AWL Air Services
and
Nu Look Window Cleaning Services
F +64 3 342 5189 I M +64 21 818 816
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From: ccox@aerialgroup.net
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 08:45:34 -0500
Well guys I do have a prop but there was slot of info held
back about the aircraft when I bought it. I thank everyone for the
advise
I'm going to pass on this plane and keep looking
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:14 AM, Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr Cox, it seems rather clear that you fully well intend to ignore
the advice of some of the best experts on this list server. You want to
ferry this aircraft home, and by God, you are going to do that no matter
how many people (who are far more experienced than you) suggest
otherwise. You appreciate their well meaning advice, but really let's
face it, you made up your mind about this quite some time ago, and you
really do not want to be confused with any facts that might change your
decision.
As for insurance, ......of course you will not have any. Anyone who
knows the true circumstances of this flight would never insure your
aircraft to begin with. Of course it is YOUR MONEY... but you honestly
can not be sure that should the worst happen, that it will just be you
that gets hurt or dies. You clearly could end up killing someone else
in the process.
Of course everyone that has read your comments has had these
thoughts go through their mind. A wise person would just shake their
head and walk away. I am sure a lot of readers have done just that.
But you see, anyone on this system will tell you... I have a big mouth.
But I also pride myself on doing my very best to tell the truth, no
matter where the cards fall. So read the following carefully:
"Life's tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid". - John Wayne
I know in my heart that there is nothing anyone can say that will
change your mind . So, I will wish you the best of luck and will
honestly say a prayer for you. However, there is not a chance in hell
that I will help you find a prop to fly your YAK-55 home and I truly
hope everyone else feels the same way. If this upsets you, then so be
it. I see no valid reason why any person on this list should help you
do something that we all know is less than safe and in fact borders on
reckless. Yes, I know I am going to catch a lot of grief for being less
than politically correct with this message, but my conscience simply
will not allow me to bury my head in the sand on this one.
Best Regards, .
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:05:36 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
Chris;
I very seriously suggest that you truck it home. In addition to
possible
internal engine damage the broken engine mount is an indicator of
possible
airframe damage as well.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Cox" <ccox@aerialgroup.net>
To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
> ahhh ok thanks...Well what happened was that it took about 3
> inchs of the tip off and it set and it was vibrating so bad
> it broke the mount! Im not trying to get out of what i need
> to do just trying to get it home so working on it would be
> easy.I thanks this group a lot for the insite and sure i
> will have more questions.Still looking for a prop to buy/use
> to ferry it home.
>
> Chris Cox
> Aerial Acquisition
> 404-697-3069
> ccox@aerialgroup.net
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Does anybody have the gear reduction (nose case) values for the M-14P and Housai.
I though I 've seen them here before but could not find them in the archives.
Craig
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231731#231731
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Reduction |
M14P 0.658, HS6 & 6A 0.787
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Winkelmann" <capav8r@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Gear Reduction
>
> Does anybody have the gear reduction (nose case) values for the M-14P and
> Housai. I though I 've seen them here before but could not find them in
> the archives.
>
> Craig
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231731#231731
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 02/22/09 |
Is someone having us on?
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> 1. 12:56 AM - Re: Need a prop! (Jan Mevis)
> 2. 02:33 AM - Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Need a prop! (Richard Goode)
> 3. 05:48 AM - Re: Need a prop! (Chris)
> 4. 07:20 AM - Re: Need a prop! (vectorwarbirds@AOL.COM)
> 5. 07:23 AM - Re: Need a prop! (Roger Kemp MD)
> 6. 07:30 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 02/21/09 (Barry Hancock)
> 7. 07:46 AM - Re: Need a prop! (John Cox)
> 8. 08:50 AM - YAK pedal brackets (Barry Hancock)
> 9. 10:17 AM - Yak-55M (Jim Selby)
> 10. 11:36 AM - Re: Yak-55M (John Fischer)
> 11. 11:50 AM - Re: Yak-55M (Jim Selby)
> 12. 12:59 PM - Re: Yak-55M (Herb Coussons)
> 13. 04:37 PM - Re: Need a prop! (Yak Pilot)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:56:21 AM PST US
> From: "Jan Mevis" <jan.mevis@informavia.be>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
> Well, I do agree with Mark's conclusion.
>
>
> Here in Europe, I would personally contact the authorities to keep such an
> aircraft on the ground if I knew of a serious risk.
>
>
> We cannot afford having accidents with Yak or Sukhoi aircraft, not only for
> the obvious risk to persons and goods, but because EASA, the new European
> Aviation Safety Agency, will almost certainly take advantage of such cases
> to prohibit flying non certified aircraft. Until now Joint Aviation
> Regulations are implemented per country which offers some "souplesse", but
> it is only a matter of time having it all being regulated by Big Brother
> EASA.
>
> And at last, Aviation Laws in Europe state it very clearly: the pilot has
> to
> be CERTAIN of the airworthiness of the aircraft BEFORE flying. When in
> doubt, it's a NO FLY.
>
>
> Jan
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot
> Sent: zondag 22 februari 2009 7:14
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> Mr Cox, it seems rather clear that you fully well intend to ignore the
> advice of some of the best experts on this list server. You want to ferry
> this aircraft home, and by God, you are going to do that no matter how many
> people (who are far more experienced than you) suggest otherwise. You
> appreciate their well meaning advice, but really let's face it, you made up
> your mind about this quite some time ago, and you really do not want to be
> confused with any facts that might change your decision.
>
>
> As for insurance, ......of course you will not have any. Anyone who knows
> the true circumstances of this flight would never insure your aircraft to
> begin with. Of course it is YOUR MONEY... but you honestly can not be sure
> that should the worst happen, that it will just be you that gets hurt or
> dies. You clearly could end up killing someone else in the process.
>
>
> Of course everyone that has read your comments has had these thoughts go
> through their mind. A wise person would just shake their head and walk
> away. I am sure a lot of readers have done just that. But you see, anyone
> on this system will tell you... I have a big mouth. But I also pride
> myself
> on doing my very best to tell the truth, no matter where the cards fall.
> So read the following carefully:
>
>
> "Life's tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid". - John Wayne
>
>
> I know in my heart that there is nothing anyone can say that will change
> your mind . So, I will wish you the best of luck and will honestly say a
> prayer for you. However, there is not a chance in hell that I will help
> you
> find a prop to fly your YAK-55 home and I truly hope everyone else feels
> the
> same way. If this upsets you, then so be it. I see no valid reason why
> any
> person on this list should help you do something that we all know is less
> than safe and in fact borders on reckless. Yes, I know I am going to catch
> a lot of grief for being less than politically correct with this message,
> but my conscience simply will not allow me to bury my head in the sand on
> this one.
>
>
> Best Regards, .
>
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
> N50YK
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:05:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> Chris;
> I very seriously suggest that you truck it home. In addition to possible
> internal engine damage the broken engine mount is an indicator of possible
> airframe damage as well.
>
> Walt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Cox" <ccox@aerialgroup.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> >
> > ahhh ok thanks...Well what happened was that it took about 3
> > inchs of the tip off and it set and it was vibrating so bad
> > it broke the mount! Im not trying to get out of what i need
> > to do just trying to get it home so working on it would be
> > easy.I thanks this group a lot for the insite and sure i
> > will have more questions.Still looking for a prop to buy/use
> > to ferry it home.
> >
> > Chris Cox
> > Aerial Acquisition
> > 404-697-3069
> > ccox@aerialgroup.net
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:33:16 AM PST US
> From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
> Subject: Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
> Chris-as Mark has said,you have probably made up your mind to fly that
> 55,and in a free world that is your perogative.
> BUT,simply because you have no insurance,do not think that you will be
> the only one affected when your engine decides to part company from the
> airframe in flight.
> Firstly,insurance companies folow EVERY accident in every part of the
> world,so even if they will not have to pay out on yours it WILL affect
> our premiums in this small world of Russian aircraft.
> Then,many of us are very concerned to provide the correct immage of
> these planes and their pilots.The public and governmental agencies[apart
> from,in your case, the FAA] are not that concerned about the reasons for
> a crash-but it will be [and indeed has been]seen as another reason to
> begin to restrict peoples freedoms to fly such planes.
> Also,an aircraft accident does not end with a hole in the ground-someone
> has to pay for clearing it up;investigating the reasons
> etc,etc,and,finally,that comes down to the flying comunity or the
> tax-payer!
> Finally,in the 23 years since I brought the first Yak to the West,I must
> have been involved in at least 50 M14 ground strikes,and I find it VERY
> difficult to believe that 3 inches off one blade would cause an engine
> mount to break-I'm sure there is more to it than than that.
> Richard
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Hereford
> HR5 3LW
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> www.russianaeros.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Cox
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:38 PM
> Subject: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> ahhh ok thanks...Well what happened was that it took about 3
> inchs of the tip off and it set and it was vibrating so bad
> it broke the mount! Im not trying to get out of what i need
> to do just trying to get it home so working on it would be
> easy.I thanks this group a lot for the insite and sure i
> will have more questions.Still looking for a prop to buy/use
> to ferry it home.
>
> Chris Cox
> Aerial Acquisition
> 404-697-3069
> ccox@aerialgroup.net
>
>
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> Time: 05:48:38 AM PST US
> From: Chris <ccox@aerialgroup.net>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
> Well guys I do have a prop but there was slot of info held
> back about the aircraft when I bought it. I thank everyone for the
> advise
> I'm going to pass on this plane and keep looking
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:14 AM, Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Mr Cox, it seems rather clear that you fully well intend to ignore
> > the advice of some of the best experts on this list server. You
> > want to ferry this aircraft home, and by God, you are going to do
> > that no matter how many people (who are far more experienced than
> > you) suggest otherwise. You appreciate their well meaning advice,
> > but really let's face it, you made up your mind about this quite
> > some time ago, and you really do not want to be confused with any
> > facts that might change your decision.
> >
> > As for insurance, ......of course you will not have any. Anyone who
> > knows the true circumstances of this flight would never insure your
> > aircraft to begin with. Of course it is YOUR MONEY... but you
> > honestly can not be sure that should the worst happen, that it will
> > just be you that gets hurt or dies. You clearly could end up
> > killing someone else in the process.
> >
> > Of course everyone that has read your comments has had these
> > thoughts go through their mind. A wise person would just shake
> > their head and walk away. I am sure a lot of readers have done just
> > that. But you see, anyone on this system will tell you... I have a
> > big mouth. But I also pride myself on doing my very best to tell
> > the truth, no matter where the cards fall. So read the following
> > carefully:
> >
> > "Life's tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid". - John Wayne
> >
> > I know in my heart that there is nothing anyone can say that will
> > change your mind . So, I will wish you the best of luck and will
> > honestly say a prayer for you. However, there is not a chance in
> > hell that I will help you find a prop to fly your YAK-55 home and I
> > truly hope everyone else feels the same way. If this upsets you,
> > then so be it. I see no valid reason why any person on this list
> > should help you do something that we all know is less than safe and
> > in fact borders on reckless. Yes, I know I am going to catch a lot
> > of grief for being less than politically correct with this message,
> > but my conscience simply will not allow me to bury my head in the
> > sand on this one.
> >
> > Best Regards, .
> >
> > Mark Bitterlich
> > N50YK
> >
> >
> > From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:05:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
> >
> >
> > Chris;
> > I very seriously suggest that you truck it home. In addition to
> > possible
> > internal engine damage the broken engine mount is an indicator of
> > possible
> > airframe damage as well.
> >
> > Walt
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Cox" <ccox@aerialgroup.net>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ahhh ok thanks...Well what happened was that it took about 3
> > > inchs of the tip off and it set and it was vibrating so bad
> > > it broke the mount! Im not trying to get out of what i need
> > > to do just trying to get it home so working on it would be
> > > easy.I thanks this group a lot for the insite and sure i
> > > will have more questions.Still looking for a prop to buy/use
> > > to ferry it home.
> > >
> > > Chris Cox
> > > Aerial Acquisition
> > > 404-697-3069
> > > ccox@aerialgroup.net
> > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigat -->
> >
> >
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:20:31 AM PST US
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
> From: vectorwarbirds@AOL.COM
>
>
> Well put Mark, I applaud your Big Mouth, sometimes that is exactly what it
> takes!!
>
> Bunndini
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris <ccox@aerialgroup.net>
> Sent: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 6:45 am
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> Well guys I do have a prop but there was slot of info held
>
> back about the aircraft when I bought it. I thank everyone for the advise
>
> I'm going to pass on this plane and keep looking
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:14 AM, Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> ?Mr Cox, it seems rather clear that you fully well intend to ignore the
> advice
> of some of the best experts on this list server.? You want to ferry this
> aircraft
> home, and by God, you are going to do that no matter how many people (who
> are far more?experienced than you) suggest otherwise.?? You appreciate
> their well
> meaning advice, but really let's face it, you made up your mind about this
> quite some time ago, and you really do not want to be confused with any
> facts
> that might change your decision.?
>
>
> ?
>
>
> As for insurance, ......of course you will not have any.? Anyone who knows
> the
> true circumstances of this flight would never insure your aircraft to begin
> with.?
> Of course it is YOUR MONEY... but you honestly can not be sure that should
> the worst happen, that it will?just be you that gets hurt or dies. You
> clearly
> could??end up killing someone else in the process.???
>
>
> ?
>
>
> Of course everyone that has read your comments has had these? thoughts go
> through
> their mind.? A wise person would just shake their head and walk away.? I am
> sure a lot of readers?have done just that.? But you see, anyone on this
> system
> will tell you... I have a big mouth.? But I also pride myself on doing my
> very
> best to tell the truth, no matter where the cards? fall.? So read the
> following
> carefully:?
>
>
> ?
>
>
> "Life's tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid". - John Wayne?
>
>
> ?
>
>
> I know in my heart that there is nothing anyone can say that will change
> your mind
> .? So, I will wish you the best of luck and will honestly say a prayer for
> you.? However, there is not a chance in hell that I will help you find a
> prop
> to fly your YAK-55 home and I truly hope everyone else feels the same way.?
> If
> this upsets you, then so be it.? I see no valid reason why any person on
> this
> list should help you do something that we all know is less than safe and in
> fact borders on reckless.? Yes, I know I am?going to catch a lot of?grief
> for
> being less than politically correct with this message, but my conscience
> simply
> will not allow me to bury my head in the sand?on this one.? ?
>
>
> ?
>
>
> Best Regards, .?
>
>
> ?
>
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> N50YK
>
>
> ?
>
>
> ?
>
>
> From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:05:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> Chris;
> I very seriously suggest that you truck it home. In addition to possible
> internal engine damage the broken engine mount is an indicator of possible
> airframe damage as well.
>
> Walt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Cox" <ccox@aerialgroup.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> >
> > ahhh ok thanks...Well what happened was that it took about 3
> > inchs of the tip off and it set and it was vibrating so bad
> > it broke the mount! Im not trying to get out of what i need
> > to do just trying to get it home so working on it would be
> > easy.I thanks this group a lot for the insite and sure i
> > will have more questions.Still looking for a prop to buy/use
> > to ferry it home.
> >
> > Chris Cox
> > Aerial Acquisition
> > 404-697-3069
> > ccox@aerialgroup.net
> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigat? --
>
>
> face="courier new,courier">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:23:38 AM PST US
> From: "Roger Kemp MD" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
> Young man, good choice. "There are bold pilots. There are old pilots. But
> there are no old bold pilots."
>
> doc
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> Well guys I do have a prop but there was slot of info held
>
> back about the aircraft when I bought it. I thank everyone for the advise
>
> I'm going to pass on this plane and keep looking
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:14 AM, Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Mr Cox, it seems rather clear that you fully well intend to ignore the
> advice of some of the best experts on this list server. You want to ferry
> this aircraft home, and by God, you are going to do that no matter how many
> people (who are far more experienced than you) suggest otherwise. You
> appreciate their well meaning advice, but really let's face it, you made up
> your mind about this quite some time ago, and you really do not want to be
> confused with any facts that might change your decision.
>
>
> As for insurance, ......of course you will not have any. Anyone who knows
> the true circumstances of this flight would never insure your aircraft to
> begin with. Of course it is YOUR MONEY... but you honestly can not be sure
> that should the worst happen, that it will just be you that gets hurt or
> dies. You clearly could end up killing someone else in the process.
>
>
> Of course everyone that has read your comments has had these thoughts go
> through their mind. A wise person would just shake their head and walk
> away. I am sure a lot of readers have done just that. But you see, anyone
> on this system will tell you... I have a big mouth. But I also pride
> myself
> on doing my very best to tell the truth, no matter where the cards fall.
> So read the following carefully:
>
>
> "Life's tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid". - John Wayne
>
>
> I know in my heart that there is nothing anyone can say that will change
> your mind . So, I will wish you the best of luck and will honestly say a
> prayer for you. However, there is not a chance in hell that I will help
> you
> find a prop to fly your YAK-55 home and I truly hope everyone else feels
> the
> same way. If this upsets you, then so be it. I see no valid reason why
> any
> person on this list should help you do something that we all know is less
> than safe and in fact borders on reckless. Yes, I know I am going to catch
> a lot of grief for being less than politically correct with this message,
> but my conscience simply will not allow me to bury my head in the sand on
> this one.
>
>
> Best Regards, .
>
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
> N50YK
>
>
> _____
>
>
> From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:05:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> Chris;
> I very seriously suggest that you truck it home. In addition to possible
> internal engine damage the broken engine mount is an indicator of possible
> airframe damage as well.
>
> Walt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Cox" <ccox@aerialgroup.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> >
> > ahhh ok thanks...Well what happened was that it took about 3
> > inchs of the tip off and it set and it was vibrating so bad
> > it broke the mount! Im not trying to get out of what i need
> > to do just trying to get it home so working on it would be
> > easy.I thanks this group a lot for the insite and sure i
> > will have more questions.Still looking for a prop to buy/use
> > to ferry it home.
> >
> > Chris Cox
> > Aerial Acquisition
> > 404-697-3069
> > ccox@aerialgroup.net
> >
>
> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> face="courier
> new,courier">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">
> http://www.matronics.com/contri
> bution
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:30:53 AM PST US
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 02/21/09
> From: "Barry Hancock" <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
>
>
> Chris,
>
> First, congratulations on joining the Yak world! This is a great
> community with a ton of really cool people. I'm quite certain that no one
> here doubts your experience or your stick and rudder skills.
>
>
> > From: Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
> >
> > -Mr Cox, it seems rather clear that you fully well intend to ignore the a
> > dvice of some of the best experts on this list server.
>
> First, Mark is one of the most well intentioned guys on this
> list...sometimes his intent gets lost in the cold hard world of
> cyberspace.
>
> Please take a deep breath and try to read what I'm about to say with an
> open mind. The reason so many guys are responding in the way that they
> are is because we have seen planes lost and people die because they chose
> to neglect serious issues and fly planes that should not have been flown
> in the first place. I can think of 3 engine failures in the last 4 years
> that were a result of flying after a prop strike...and as Richard said,
> nose case failures are of most concern. I will give you the names of
> these guys to call and have a chat with so they can tell you their
> experiences, first hand, about how incredibly lucky they are to not be
> dead. Call Jill at M-14P and ask about the prop strike inspections
> they've done. Call Bill Blackwell who tore apart an engine that failed
> after a prop strike. Then there are others that you cannot call because
> they are dead.
>
> Chris, what we really care about is you...not insurance. Some of us are
> just a bit too proud pilot types that won't admit it, but no one wants to
> see you get hurt. Please, please, please take a step back and listen to
> the advice of guys who have been around these airplanes for a long, long
> time. I'm sure with 3000TT you have learned a lot from those around you,
> let this be one of those times.
>
> Feel free to call me any time for the names and numbers of those I mention
> above.
>
> Regards,
>
> Barry
>
> --
> Barry Hancock
> Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
> office (909) 606-4444
> cell (949) 300-5510
> www.worldwidewarbirds.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:46:46 AM PST US
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Need a prop!
> From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>
> Let me make it clear that Chris Cox is no known relation to John Cox.
>
>
> Quietly watching the old bold pilots in the Pacific NW during a
> protracted winter. The dialog reminds me of my Three Strike Rule. I
> have used it several times in thirty years of flying. There must be
> more to this story.
>
>
> John Cox "Foto" GIB (sometimes for "Batman" Morley)
>
> Oregon, USA
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> Mr Cox, it seems rather clear that you fully well intend to ignore the
> advice of some of the best experts on this list server. You want to
> ferry this aircraft home, and by God, you are going to do that no matter
> how many people (who are far more experienced than you) suggest
> otherwise. You appreciate their well meaning advice, but really let's
> face it, you made up your mind about this quite some time ago, and you
> really do not want to be confused with any facts that might change your
> decision.
>
>
> As for insurance, ......of course you will not have any. Anyone who
> knows the true circumstances of this flight would never insure your
> aircraft to begin with. Of course it is YOUR MONEY... but you honestly
> can not be sure that should the worst happen, that it will just be you
> that gets hurt or dies. You clearly could end up killing someone else
> in the process.
>
>
> Of course everyone that has read your comments has had these thoughts
> go through their mind. A wise person would just shake their head and
> walk away. I am sure a lot of readers have done just that. But you
> see, anyone on this system will tell you... I have a big mouth. But I
> also pride myself on doing my very best to tell the truth, no matter
> where the cards fall. So read the following carefully:
>
>
> "Life's tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid". - John Wayne
>
>
> I know in my heart that there is nothing anyone can say that will change
> your mind . So, I will wish you the best of luck and will honestly say
> a prayer for you. However, there is not a chance in hell that I will
> help you find a prop to fly your YAK-55 home and I truly hope everyone
> else feels the same way. If this upsets you, then so be it. I see no
> valid reason why any person on this list should help you do something
> that we all know is less than safe and in fact borders on reckless.
> Yes, I know I am going to catch a lot of grief for being less than
> politically correct with this message, but my conscience simply will not
> allow me to bury my head in the sand on this one.
>
>
> Best Regards, .
>
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
> N50YK
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:05:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> Chris;
> I very seriously suggest that you truck it home. In addition to possible
>
> internal engine damage the broken engine mount is an indicator of
> possible
> airframe damage as well.
>
> Walt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Cox" <ccox@aerialgroup.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
>
> >
> > ahhh ok thanks...Well what happened was that it took about 3
> > inchs of the tip off and it set and it was vibrating so bad
> > it broke the mount! Im not trying to get out of what i need
> > to do just trying to get it home so working on it would be
> > easy.I thanks this group a lot for the insite and sure i
> > will have more questions.Still looking for a prop to buy/use
> > to ferry it home.
> >
> > Chris Cox
> > Aerial Acquisition
> > 404-697-3069
> > ccox@aerialgroup.net
> >
> Navigator
> and
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
> Web
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> ==========
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:50:33 AM PST US
> Subject: Yak-List: YAK pedal brackets
> From: "Barry Hancock" <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
>
>
> Gang,
>
> I have good news and bad news. The good news is that the YAK pedal
> brackets have been run through the paces and we have a final design. More
> good news is that they work great in both the Yak-50 and the rear seat of
> the Yak-52. However, we are unable to get a good enough gain in the front
> seat of the -52 to make it worthwhile. The problem is clearance with
> accessories on the firewall. There was an AD put out on this subject for
> the stock pedals some years ago and we cannot make the brackets comply
> with the intent of the AD and still pick up significant leg room.
>
> So, if you are interested in pedals for your Yak-50 or the back seat of
> your -52, we are now accepting orders and are making a run next week.
>
> For those with orders in our current run of CJ brackets is in process and
> should be ready to ship by the end of the week. We still have a few sets
> available. Contact me off list if interested.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Barry
>
>
> --
> Barry Hancock
> Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
> office (909) 606-4444
> cell (949) 300-5510
> www.worldwidewarbirds.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 10:17:41 AM PST US
> From: "Jim Selby" <alikatz@mbay.net>
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-55M
>
>
> An eBay member wants to show you this item
>
>
> Hi, I saw this item on eBay and thought you might be interested.
>
>
> 1995 YAK 55M, HIGH PERFORMANCE AEROBATIC HOT ROD!!
> Current price: $30,100.00
> Buy It Now price: $37,500.00
> End time: Feb-22-09 18:30:00 PST
> Add to watch list | See similar items
>
> Check out this item
>
>
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> ________________________________ Message 10
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:36:12 AM PST US
> From: John Fischer <fish@aviation-tech.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-55M
>
> Jim,
>
> I think this is the aircraft that created so much talk recently on the
> forum.
>
> Laterrrrr
> John Fischer
>
>
> At 10:15 AM 2/22/2009, you wrote:
>
> >eBay
> >
> >[]
> > An eBay member wants to show you this item
> >[]
> >
> >Hi, I saw this item on eBay and thought you might be interested.
> >
> >[]
> >
> ><http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1302856560
> 48&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:MOTORS:1123>
> >1995 YAK 55M, HIGH PERFORMANCE AEROBATIC HOT ROD!!
> >
> ><http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1302856560
> 48&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:MOTORS:1123>1995
> >YAK 55M, HIGH PERFORMANCE AEROBATIC HOT ROD!!
> >Current price:
> >$30,100.00
> >Buy It Now price:
> >$37,500.00
> >Buy It Now
> >
> >End time: Feb-22-09 18:30:00 PST
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> 6048&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1153>Add
> >to watch list |
> ><
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> HOT-ROD_W0QQsacatZ63677?ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1114>See
> >similar items
> >Check out this item
> >[]
> >
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> ________________________________ Message 11
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:50:17 AM PST US
> From: "Jim Selby" <alikatz@mbay.net>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-55M
>
> That's what I thought. I figured I would send the info. to the Yak list.
> I have NO interest in the plane..
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Fischer
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-55M
>
>
> Jim,
>
> I think this is the aircraft that created so much talk recently on the
> forum.
>
> Laterrrrr
> John Fischer
>
>
> At 10:15 AM 2/22/2009, you wrote:
>
>
> An eBay member wants to show you this item
> Hi, I saw this item on eBay and thought you might be interested.
>
>
> 1995 YAK 55M, HIGH PERFORMANCE AEROBATIC HOT ROD!!
> Current price:
> $30,100.00
> Buy It Now price:
> $37,500.00
> End time: Feb-22-09 18:30:00 PST
> Add to watch list | See similar items
> Check out this item
>
>
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> ________________________________ Message 12
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:59:19 PM PST US
> From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-55M
>
> ?"2 small skin wrinkles no problem" and gear bent.
>
> Some landing !!
>
> I was most nervous about my 55 when I got it, it really is very gentle
>
> landing and on the ground. It is also incredibly well built and strong.
> So this looks to be a disasterous landing.
>
> Herb
>
>
> On Feb 22, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Jim Selby wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > An eBay member wants to show you this item
> > Hi, I saw this item on eBay and thought you might be interested.
> >
> >
> >
> > 1995 YAK 55M, HIGH PERFORMANCE AEROBATIC HOT ROD!!
> > Current price:
> > $30,100.00
> > Buy It Now price:
> > $37,500.00
> > End time: Feb-22-09 18:30:00 PST
> > Add to watch list | See similar items
> > Check out this item
> >
> >
> > Learn More to protect yourself from spoof (fake) emails.
> >
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> > located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125.
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 13
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:37:42 PM PST US
> From: Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!
>
> I am very happy to be totally wrong. =0A=0AMark=0A=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A_______
> _________________________=0AFrom: Chris <ccox@aerialgroup.net>=0ATo:
> "yak-l
> ist@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Sunday, February 22,
> 20
> 09 8:45:34 AM=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!=0A=0A=0AWell guys I do
> have a prop but there was slot of info held=0Aback about the aircraft when
> I bought it. I thank everyone for the advise=0AI'm going to pass on this pl
> ane and keep looking=0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn Feb 22, 2009, at 1:14
> AM, Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A=0A=0A-Mr Cox, it seems rather
> clear that you fully well intend to ignore the advice of some of the best
> experts on this list server.- You want to ferry this aircraft home, and b
> y God, you are going to do that no matter how many people (who are far more
> -experienced than you) suggest otherwise.-- You appreciate their well
> meaning advice, but really let's face it, you made up your mind about this
> quite some time ago, and you really do not want to be confused with any fa
> cts that might change your decision.- =0A-=0AAs for insurance, ......of
> course you will not have any.- Anyone who knows the true circumstances o
> f this flight would never insure your aircraft to begin with.- Of course
> it is YOUR MONEY... but you honestly can not be sure that should the worst
> happen, that it will-just be you that gets hurt or dies. You clearly coul
> d--end up killing someone else in the process.--- =0A-=0AOf cou
> rse everyone that has read your comments has had these- thoughts go throu
> gh their mind.- A wise person would just shake their head and walk away.
> - I am sure a lot of readers-have done just that.- But you see, anyon
> e on this system will tell you... I have a big mouth.- But I also pride m
> yself on doing my very best to tell the truth, no matter where the cards-
> fall.- So read the following carefully:- =0A-=0A"Life's tough, it's
> even tougher if you're stupid". - John Wayne- =0A-=0AI know in my heart
> that there is nothing anyone can say that will change your mind .- So, I
> will wish you the best of luck and will honestly say a prayer for you.-
> However, there is not a chance in hell that I will help you find a prop to
> fly your YAK-55 home and I truly hope everyone else feels the same way.-
> If this upsets you, then so be it.- I see no valid reason why any person
> on this list should help you do something that we all know is less than saf
> e and in fact borders on reckless.- Yes, I know I am-going to catch a l
> ot of-grief for being less than politically correct with this message, bu
> t my conscience simply will not allow me to bury my head in the sand-on t
> his one.- -=0A-=0ABest Regards, .- =0A-=0AMark Bitterlich =0AN50Y
> K=0A-=0A=0A-=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Walter Lanno
> n <wlannon@persona.ca>=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday,
> Febru
> ary 21, 2009 8:05:36 PM=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop!=0A=0A--> Yak-
> List message posted by: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>=0A=0AChris;=0AI
> very seriously suggest that you truck it home. In addition to possible =0Ai
> nternal engine damage the broken engine mount is an indicator of possible
> =0Aairframe damage as well.=0A=0AWalt=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFro
> m: "Chris Cox" <ccox@aerialgroup.net>=0ATo: <yak-list@matronics.com
> >=0ASent
> : Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:38 AM=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: Need a prop
> >=0A>=0A> ahhh ok thanks...Well what happened was that it took about 3=0A>
> inchs of the tip off and it set and it was vibrating so bad=0A> it broke th
> e mount! Im not trying to get out of what i need=0A> to do just trying to g
> et it home so working on it would be=0A> easy.I thanks this group a lot for
> the insite and sure i=0A> will have more questions.Still looking for a pro
> p to buy/use=0A> to ferry it home.=0A>=0A> Chris Cox=0A> Aerial Acquisition
> =0A> 404-697-3069=0A> ccox@aerialgroup.net=0A>
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