Yak-List Digest Archive

Wed 04/22/09


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:52 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 04/21/09 (SRGraham)
     2. 08:51 AM - Yak-18T (Richard Goode)
     3. 09:06 AM - Re: Magneto high tension lead (doug sapp)
     4. 09:20 AM - Re: Magneto high tension lead (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     5. 09:56 AM - Re: Magneto high tension lead (doug sapp)
     6. 12:08 PM - Red Star Safety Survey (Barry Hancock)
     7. 12:13 PM - black oxidation / passivation (Jon Boede)
     8. 12:30 PM - Re: black oxidation / passivation (talew@bellsouth.net)
     9. 12:51 PM - Re: black oxidation / passivation (Roger Kemp M.D.)
    10. 03:25 PM - PLAAF Roundel (CJcanuck)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:52:57 AM PST US
    From: "SRGraham" <sgyak18t@bigpond.com>
    Subject: RE: Yak-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 04/21/09
    Hello everyone, a question about the clock I have worked out how to use the stopwatch in the lower half of the dial, start and stop and the hold button. I have worked out how to wind and how to use the minute and our stopwatch in the upper half of the dial (the small red flag is solid) but I do not know what the significance of the half white half red flag is or what the all white flag means. So I would like to admit my ignorance upfront, and ask if anyone has either a manual, instruction from personal experience or even better if there is an endorsement that one can put in the logbook for this instrument! I am also fitting a Dynon A 10 this weekend, with remote mounted compass and input from the GPS. I will report on how it functions, as there were some questions about this sort of instrument not so long ago. SG -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak-List Digest Server Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2009 4:59 PM Subject: Yak-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 04/21/09 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 09-04-21&Archive=Yak Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2009-04-21&Archive=Yak =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/21/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:25 AM - Re: Magneto high tension lead (lie.buyse@pandora.be) 2. 04:04 AM - Re: Magneto high tension lead (A. Dennis Savarese) 3. 08:23 AM - Re: Magneto high tension lead (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E) 4. 02:38 PM - Re: Converting Yak 55 to Cleveland wheels and brakes (Wesley Warner) 5. 03:40 PM - Re: Converting Yak 55 to Cleveland wheels and brakes (A. Dennis Savarese) 6. 04:02 PM - Re: Converting Yak 55 to Cleveland wheels and brakes (Wesley Warner) 7. 04:18 PM - Re: Converting Yak 55 to Cleveland wheels and brakes (A. Dennis Savarese) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:43 AM PST US From: "lie.buyse@pandora.be" <lie.buyse@telenet.be> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead Indeed, the internal "cigarette" INSIDE the mag. Lieven Buyse >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- >Van : Yak Pilot [mailto:yakplt@yahoo.com] >Verzonden : dinsdag , april 21, 2009 12:35 AM >Aan : yak-list@matronics.com >Onderwerp : Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > >Are we talking about the internal "cigarette" inside the mag, or the wire going from the starting spark transformer TO the mag? > >I'm confused. > >Mark Bitterlich > > >________________________________ >From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:04:04 PM >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > > >No. You will see how the end fits into the starting coil when you remove it and the lead into the magneto is the same as all the other spark plug wires. >Dennis >----- Original Message ----- >From: lieven buyse >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:48 PM >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > >Thanks Dennis, >Is it necessary to solder some kind of "head" onboth copper ends? >Lieven B. >----- Original Message ----- >From: A. Dennis Savarese >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:38 PM >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > >Here is a link to 7 mm wire which I have used in the past with no problems. http://www.mfgsupply.com/m/c/24-8775.html >Dennis >----- Original Message ----- >From: lieven buyse >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 6:32 AM >Subject: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > >Hi, > >Anyone knows if the magneto high tension lead (insulated 7,5 cm long and 7 >mm wide pencil like rod wich connects the high tension coil to the >distributor cap), can be repaired or substituted by a piece of spark plug >wire? Insulation is burnt by arcing and I can't find a spare one. Unless I >buy an overhauled one, but it has only 20 hours since overhaul! > >L. Buyse >Yak52 nbsp; Navigator Photoshare, and href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics==== ===================<; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >_p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== ========== > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronhref="h ttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Yak-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronic s.com >href="http://www.matronics.com==== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:41 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead Ahhh! I misinterpreted your email. Please do not try to use the 7 mm wire I sent the link to. I do not have a fix for the internal cigarette. Sorry. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: lie.buyse@pandora.be To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:24 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead <lie.buyse@telenet.be> Indeed, the internal "cigarette" INSIDE the mag. Lieven Buyse >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- >Van : Yak Pilot [mailto:yakplt@yahoo.com] >Verzonden : dinsdag , april 21, 2009 12:35 AM >Aan : yak-list@matronics.com >Onderwerp : Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > >Are we talking about the internal "cigarette" inside the mag, or the wire going from the starting spark transformer TO the mag? > >I'm confused. > >Mark Bitterlich > > > > > >________________________________ >From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:04:04 PM >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > > >No. You will see how the end fits into the starting coil when you remove it and the lead into the magneto is the same as all the other spark plug wires. >Dennis >----- Original Message ----- >From: lieven buyse >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:48 PM >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > >Thanks Dennis, >Is it necessary to solder some kind of "head" on both copper ends? >Lieven B. >----- Original Message ----- >From: A. Dennis Savarese >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:38 PM >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > >Here is a link to 7 mm wire which I have used in the past with no problems. http://www.mfgsupply.com/m/c/24-8775.html >Dennis >----- Original Message ----- >From: lieven buyse >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 6:32 AM >Subject: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > >Hi, > >Anyone knows if the magneto high tension lead (insulated 7,5 cm long and 7 >mm wide pencil like rod wich connects the high tension coil to the >distributor cap), can be repaired or substituted by a piece of spark plug >wire? Insulation is burnt by arcing and I can't find a spare one. Unless I >buy an overhauled one, but it has only 20 hours since overhaul! > >L. Buyse >Yak52 nbsp; Navigator Photoshare, and href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics ========================< ; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >_p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =============== > > > > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronhr ef="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ c > > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Yak-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forum s.matronics.com >href="http://www.matronics.com==== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:06 AM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Lieven, there should be several sources in the U.S. for that part. George Coy, Carl Hays, Vladimir Yastremski, etc. George is: Motorstar NA 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy@gmail.com SKYPE george.coy motorstarna.com Vladimir Yastremski 858-780-1860 yastremski@msn.com Carl Hays, via Jill Gernetzke M-14P, Incorporated 4905 Flightline Drive Kingman, AZ 86401 -7417 (928)-681-4400 Fax(928)681-4404 www.m-14p.com Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:02 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead Ahhh! I misinterpreted your email. Please do not try to use the 7 mm wire I sent the link to. I do not have a fix for the internal cigarette. Sorry. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: lie.buyse@pandora.be To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:24 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead <lie.buyse@telenet.be> Indeed, the internal "cigarette" INSIDE the mag. Lieven Buyse >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- >Van : Yak Pilot [mailto:yakplt@yahoo.com] >Verzonden : dinsdag , april 21, 2009 12:35 AM >Aan : yak-list@matronics.com >Onderwerp : Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > >Are we talking about the internal "cigarette" inside the mag, or the wire going from the starting spark transformer TO the mag? > >I'm confused. > >Mark Bitterlich > > > > > >________________________________ >From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:04:04 PM >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > > >No. You will see how the end fits into the starting coil when you remove it and the lead into the magneto is the same as all the other spark plug wires. >Dennis >----- Original Message ----- >From: lieven buyse >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:48 PM >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > >Thanks Dennis, >Is it necessary to solder some kind of "head" on both copper ends? >Lieven B. >----- Original Message ----- >From: A. Dennis Savarese >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:38 PM >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > >Here is a link to 7 mm wire which I have used in the past with no problems. http://www.mfgsupply.com/m/c/24-8775.html >Dennis >----- Original Message ----- >From: lieven buyse >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 6:32 AM >Subject: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead <lie.buyse@telenet.be> > >Hi, > >Anyone knows if the magneto high tension lead (insulated 7,5 cm long and 7 >mm wide pencil like rod wich connects the high tension coil to the >distributor cap), can be repaired or substituted by a piece of spark plug >wire? Insulation is burnt by arcing and I can't find a spare one. Unless I >buy an overhauled one, but it has only 20 hours since overhaul! > >L. Buyse >Yak52 nbsp; Navigator Photoshare, and href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics=== ===================<; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >_p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c=== ========== > > > > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronhref="h ttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Yak-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronic s.com >href="http://www.matronics.com====p; Navigator Photoshare, and href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics=== ===================<; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c=== ========== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:38:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Converting Yak 55 to Cleveland wheels and brakes From: Wesley Warner <warner.wesley@gmail.com> These are the the ones I used... Std. Disc 199-104 $1589.00 http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/cleve_homebuiltwb.php Hope that helps. Wes On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:18 PM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Has anyone converted their Yak 55M to Cleveland wheels and brakes and if > yes, would you mind posting what the Cleveland part numbers are for the > conversion? Thanks very much. > Dennis > > A. Dennis Savarese > 334-285-2141 > 334-546-8182 (cell) > Skype: yakworld1 > www.yak-52.com > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:40:33 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Converting Yak 55 to Cleveland wheels and brakes Thank you very much Wes. Much appreciated. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Wesley Warner To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Converting Yak 55 to Cleveland wheels and brakes <warner.wesley@gmail.com> These are the the ones I used... Std. Disc 199-104 $1589.00 http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/cleve_homebuiltwb.php Hope that helps. Wes On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:18 PM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Has anyone converted their Yak 55M to Cleveland wheels and brakes and if > yes, would you mind posting what the Cleveland part numbers are for the > conversion? Thanks very much. > Dennis > > A. Dennis Savarese > 334-285-2141 > 334-546-8182 (cell) > Skype: yakworld1 > www.yak-52.com > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Converting Yak 55 to Cleveland wheels and brakes From: Wesley Warner <warner.wesley@gmail.com> Sure. No problem. BTW, I used 15X6.00-6 tires. Are you planning on using gear extensions, or just adapters? On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:30 PM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Thank you very much Wes. Much appreciated. > Dennis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wesley Warner > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:36 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Converting Yak 55 to Cleveland wheels and brakes > > These are the the ones I used... > > Std. Disc 199-104 $1589.00 > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/cleve_homebuiltwb.php > > Hope that helps. > > Wes ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:06 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Converting Yak 55 to Cleveland wheels and brakes I am gathering this information out for a gentleman in France. So whatever suggestions you pass along, I pass along to him. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Wesley Warner To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Converting Yak 55 to Cleveland wheels and brakes <warner.wesley@gmail.com> Sure. No problem. BTW, I used 15X6.00-6 tires. Are you planning on using gear extensions, or just adapters? On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:30 PM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Thank you very much Wes. Much appreciated. > Dennis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wesley Warner > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:36 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Converting Yak 55 to Cleveland wheels and brakes <warner.wesley@gmail.com> > > These are the the ones I used... > > Std. Disc 199-104 $1589.00 > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/cleve_homebuiltwb.php > > Hope that helps. > > Wes Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 16:48:00


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    Time: 08:51:55 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Yak-18T
    Dear Yak Owners An 18T customer of ours has prepared two excellent check-lists for the Yak-18T - if you would like you can view these on our website by following the links below: For Yak-18T Normal Check List: http://www.russianaeros.com/Check%20lists/18T%20checklist.doc For Yak-18T Emergency Check List: http://www.russianaeros.com/Check%20lists/18T%20Emergency%20Checklist.doc With regards Richard Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com


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    Time: 09:06:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Magneto high tension lead
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    I have a few in stock. Doug Sapp On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:32 AM, lieven buyse <lie.buyse@telenet.be> wrote: > > Hi, > > Anyone knows if the magneto high tension lead (insulated 7,5 cm long and 7 > mm wide pencil like rod wich connects the high tension coil to the > distributor cap), can be repaired or substituted by a piece of spark plug > wire? Insulation is burnt by arcing and I can't find a spare one. Unless I > buy an overhauled one, but it has only 20 hours since overhaul! > > L. Buyse > Yak52 RA1428K > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 09:20:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Magneto high tension lead
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Doug, I'm an idiot. My sincere apologies for forgetting to mention you. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead I have a few in stock. Doug Sapp On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:32 AM, lieven buyse <lie.buyse@telenet.be> wrote: <lie.buyse@telenet.be> Hi, Anyone knows if the magneto high tension lead (insulated 7,5 cm long and 7 mm wide pencil like rod wich connects the high tension coil to the distributor cap), can be repaired or substituted by a piece of spark plug wire? Insulation is burnt by arcing and I can't find a spare one. Unless I buy an overhauled one, but it has only 20 hours since overhaul! ilities such as List Un/Subscription, www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 09:56:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Magneto high tension lead
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    now if I told you that you would be mad at me!! ;o) No problem Mark. Best from here, doug On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: > Doug, I'm an idiot. My sincere apologies for forgetting to mention you. > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:00 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Magneto high tension lead > > I have a few in stock. > > Doug Sapp > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:32 AM, lieven buyse <lie.buyse@telenet.be> > wrote: > > > <lie.buyse@telenet.be> > > Hi, > > Anyone knows if the magneto high tension lead (insulated 7,5 cm long > and 7 mm wide pencil like rod wich connects the high tension coil to the > distributor cap), can be repaired or substituted by a piece of spark plug > wire? Insulation is burnt by arcing and I can't find a spare one. Unless I > buy an overhauled one, but it has only 20 hours since overhaul! > ilities such as List Un/Subscription, > www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > Matt Dralle, List Admin. > ==== > > > -- > Always Yakin, > Doug Sapp > Phone 509-826-4610 > Fax 509-826-3644 > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 12:08:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Red Star Safety Survey
    From: "Barry Hancock" <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
    If you have already received an RPA Ecomm on this subject, please disregard. If not, please read on and participate! Greetings Red Star Aviators, The attached survey was constructed by experienced Check, Instructor, and Lead Pilots in an attempt to assess the experience level of individual pilots as well as their recurrent training and the type of flying they routinely engage in. This data will be collected anonymously and will be treated as confidential. It is hoped that this will help to identify trends, provide recommendations for future recurrent training and to identify training resources which our members can access. The sole intent is to help our members fly their aircraft with greater confidence and safety. Your participation is the key to our success! The survey takes approximately 3 minutes to complete. Please click the link here to get started! http://survey.constantcontact.com/survey/a07e2h6kj2pfrxqdejj/start The results are available immediately and compiled results will be in an upcoming Red Alert Magazine article. Thank you for helping to make our community safer!


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    Time: 12:13:02 PM PST US
    From: Jon Boede <jonboede@hotmail.com>
    Subject: black oxidation / passivation
    Am looking for suggestions on replacement screws=2C but I'm also curious ab out metalurgy... I'm not too pleased with the original Communist steel screws. By these I m ean the screws that hold down fairings=2C not "structural" screws -- I woul d always go with OEM stuff in those cases. In replacement screws=2C I can go with steel screws=2C steel screws that ha ve been passivated (black oxide or "hot" bluing they do with guns)=2C stain less screws=2C or passivated stainless screws. Anybody have any opinions on the merits of one of these options over the ot hers? Jon


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    Time: 12:30:41 PM PST US
    From: talew@bellsouth.net
    Subject: Re: black oxidation / passivation
    Hi Jon, I live near the coast of Florida and I use stainless screws for the fairings of my CJ. I had a restored Vette that had black oxide on the seat rails and they eventually began to rust. Here in Fl. with all the salt air I think rocks will corrode over time. Terry -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jon Boede <jonboede@hotmail.com> > > > Am looking for suggestions on replacement screws, but I'm also curious about > metalurgy... > > I'm not too pleased with the original Communist steel screws. By these I mean > the screws that hold down fairings, not "structural" screws -- I would always go > with OEM stuff in those cases. > > In replacement screws, I can go with steel screws, steel screws that have been > passivated (black oxide or "hot" bluing they do with guns), stainless screws, or > passivated stainless screws. > > Anybody have any opinions on the merits of one of these options over the others? > > Jon >


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    Time: 12:51:57 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: black oxidation / passivation
    Jon, I'm using stainless steel truss head metric screws to replace the Russian ones. They come from McMaster Carr. You can also get them from Maryland Metric Screw. I have not ordered from them but Dennis has. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Boede Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: Yak-List: black oxidation / passivation Am looking for suggestions on replacement screws, but I'm also curious about metalurgy... I'm not too pleased with the original Communist steel screws. By these I mean the screws that hold down fairings, not "structural" screws -- I would always go with OEM stuff in those cases. In replacement screws, I can go with steel screws, steel screws that have been passivated (black oxide or "hot" bluing they do with guns), stainless screws, or passivated stainless screws. Anybody have any opinions on the merits of one of these options over the others? Jon


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    Time: 03:25:44 PM PST US
    Subject: PLAAF Roundel
    From: "CJcanuck" <m_kirk69@hotmail.com>
    Does anyone have a hi-rez file of the PLAAF roundel they can email me? Thanks! Mike K Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=240806#240806




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