Yak-List Digest Archive

Tue 05/19/09


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:51 AM - Overhauled M14P engines available (A. Dennis Savarese)
     2. 06:07 AM - Airframe Filler (Rico Jaeger)
     3. 09:31 AM - Window sealing YAK 18t (SC)
     4. 01:27 PM - Re: Window sealing YAK 18t (Vic)
     5. 02:26 PM - Engine or prop judder on 18 T (Vic)
     6. 04:02 PM - Re: Window sealing YAK 18t (bigglesusa)
     7. 04:29 PM - Re: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t (doug sapp)
     8. 04:33 PM - Re: Window sealing YAK 18t (bigglesusa)
     9. 04:37 PM - Re: Airframe Filler (bigglesusa)
    10. 05:21 PM - Re: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t (doug sapp)
    11. 06:11 PM - Re: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t (A. Dennis Savarese)
    12. 06:15 PM - Re: Window sealing YAK 18t (Vic)
    13. 06:27 PM - Re: White Paper on Russian Generator System (shahnow)
    14. 06:52 PM - Re: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t (Tom Elliott)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:51:08 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Overhauled M14P engines available
    If anyone is interested in an overhauled M14P engine with prop flange for V530 or MTV 9 propeller, overhauled by SC Motorstar in 2008 with overhaul paperwork, please contact me off-list. I have 3 engines available. They are here in the US and presently stored in a climate controlled storage facility in Alabama. I will be happy to discuss a serviceable core exchange with you as well. Dennis


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    Time: 06:07:19 AM PST US
    From: "Rico Jaeger" <rijaeger@wausau.k12.wi.us>
    Subject: Airframe Filler
    Can anyone recommend a favorite filler for airframe dings? And also where I may possibly find it? Thanks so much!! >>> "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> 5/19/2009 7:50 AM >>> If anyone is interested in an overhauled M14P engine with prop flange for V530 or MTV 9 propeller, overhauled by SC Motorstar in 2008 with overhaul paperwork, please contact me off-list. I have 3 engines available. They are here in the US and presently stored in a climate controlled storage facility in Alabama. I will be happy to discuss a serviceable core exchange with you as well. Dennis ======================== ===============


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    Time: 09:31:07 AM PST US
    From: "SC" <thecookoos@gmail.com>
    Subject: Window sealing YAK 18t
    Can anybody please advise best method of sealing new windows in my YAK 18t? I have tried the excellent Cessna sealing strip but it is too thick and prevents the fitting of the fixing plates. Thanks. BigglesUSA


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    Time: 01:27:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t
    From: "Vic" <vicmolnar@aol.com>
    Hello Biggles, we used clear silicone sealant on the windows . Regards Vic Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244693#244693


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    Time: 02:26:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Engine or prop judder on 18 T
    From: "Vic" <vicmolnar@aol.com>
    Hello everybody, our 18 T has developed an engine or prop judder since last year that can be noticed mainly in high speed low passes at , say, 70 % engine speed and over 250 kph . We replaced all engine mounting rubbers, did a dynamic prop balancing on the ground with up to 90 % engine speed and the engine felt real smooth. But in the air at high speed dives the shaking of the engine/prop was still there - at a very reduced rate, but still noticeable . The setting of the blades was checked and seemed to be allright in the dynamic balancing . Could we have a problem with the prop hub in case the prop goes to fully coarse in the dive and the blade angles in this condition might be different for each blade ? We suspect some sort of backlash in the hub different for each side ? Has anybody an idea on that one ? Or could it be an aerodynamic effect specific for the 18 T ? We will dig deeper next weekend but any ideas would be appreciated. Regards Helga and Vic Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244696#244696


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    Time: 04:02:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t
    From: "bigglesusa" <thecookoos@gmail.com>
    Thanks Vic - ? just clear silicone, no tape or nothing ? How about any preparation ? BigglesUSA -------- 'Le temps mange la vie' Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244708#244708


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    Time: 04:29:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Yikes, silicone? It has been my experience that your going to be pretty much screwed if you ever have to replace a section if it was installed with silicone. The stuff just does too good of a job, it just wont let go! You end up having to nearly destroy the frame to get the old piece out. Doug On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:01 PM, bigglesusa <thecookoos@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Vic - ? just clear silicone, no tape or nothing ? How about any > preparation ? > BigglesUSA > > -------- > 'Le temps mange la vie' > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244708#244708 > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 04:33:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t
    From: "bigglesusa" <thecookoos@gmail.com>
    What do you recommend Doug ? Thanks BigglesUSA -------- 'Le temps mange la vie' Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244713#244713


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    Time: 04:37:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Airframe Filler
    From: "bigglesusa" <thecookoos@gmail.com>
    I believe there are special fillers available from Polyfiber people but I have used normal car Bondo in thin sections and ensuring good surface to key to - it seems to have worked fine with no shrinkage. Biggles USA -------- 'Le temps mange la vie' Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244714#244714


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    Time: 05:21:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    I have never replaced the glass on a 18T, so don't cant speak to the problems or best methods for you. For Nanchang canopies I use Cessna horizontal stabilizer leading edge tape from A/C Spruce. It's a thick black tape seems to work well, never had a canopy leak. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:32 PM, bigglesusa <thecookoos@gmail.com> wrote: > > What do you recommend Doug ? > Thanks > BigglesUSA > > -------- > 'Le temps mange la vie' > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244713#244713 > > -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 06:11:22 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t
    Excellent point Doug and I second your comments 100%. I've seen the effects of someone using clear silicone sealant. The front window frame was almost destroyed while trying to remove the stuff from the frame. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: doug sapp To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t Yikes, silicone? It has been my experience that your going to be pretty much screwed if you ever have to replace a section if it was installed with silicone. The stuff just does too good of a job, it just wont let go! You end up having to nearly destroy the frame to get the old piece out. Doug On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:01 PM, bigglesusa <thecookoos@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Vic - ? just clear silicone, no tape or nothing ? How about any preparation ? BigglesUSA -------- 'Le temps mange la vie' Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244708#244708 ========== rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 06:15:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t
    From: "Vic" <vicmolnar@aol.com>
    Hi Biggles, you may find places on the Yak where youd like to have the tape a few millimeters thick, but mostly zero thickness would be fine. So youd better find some metric sealing compound for the job on Russian aircraft like silicone. That way adjustments while fitting the windows are possible. With tapes you might fall into offensive language, but in some places tapes should do . When replacing windows one day, I guess you will need a cutter anyway to separate the window from the frame. Windshields on cars are glued as well, but I think this stuff is even tougher than clear silicone. Id suggest you do a test elsewhere to find out what suits you best for this job. Regards Vic Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244722#244722


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    Time: 06:27:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: White Paper on Russian Generator System
    From: "shahnow" <shahnows@yahoo.com>
    Hi All, I have a situation with Mi-17-1V Russian Aircraft whereby when pilot switch off all the generators after flight, I found that the combine device DMR-200D still combining Rectifier Bus and Battery Bus. I have test the DMR-200D to simulate as per on Aircraft operation. The "B" is shorted to "+" terminal, "-" connected to ground, 'MAINS' connected to Battery +24V, 'GEN' connected to DC Supply +28V. I run the test. after put in the DC supply +28V, the DMR-200D combine the DC supply +28V with the Battery +24V. Thats mean when I measure the voltage at both terminal of 'GEN' and 'MAINS' the voltage are the same. Then I reduce the DC Supply +28V down to 0V. I found that the DMR-200D still combining the between the two terminal 'GEN' and 'MAINS' I have two new DMR-200D. I tried both and the results show same. My question. Is the DMR-200D was designed to be like that? Is there a way to change the wiring connection so that the DMR-200D will release the combination of 'MAINS' to 'GEN' after we cutoff all the powers of generators of aircraft? Refer attachment for the wiring diagram of DMR-200D on the Mi-17-1V aircraft. Thanks, Shahrul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244724#244724 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/conn_of_rccr_168.ppt


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    Time: 06:52:26 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Elliott" <N13472@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t
    Another good tape to use is the 20 mil black pipe wrapping tape. You can get it at Home Depot, Lowes, etc. Tom Elliott CJ-6A NX63727 702-595-2680 _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Window sealing YAK 18t I have never replaced the glass on a 18T, so don't cant speak to the problems or best methods for you. For Nanchang canopies I use Cessna horizontal stabilizer leading edge tape from A/C Spruce. It's a thick black tape seems to work well, never had a canopy leak. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:32 PM, bigglesusa <thecookoos@gmail.com> wrote: What do you recommend Doug ? Thanks BigglesUSA -------- 'Le temps mange la vie' Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244713#244713 ========== rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== -- Always Yakin, Doug Sapp Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644




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