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Thu 06/18/09


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 07:31 AM - CJ fuel sending unit (keithmckinley)
     2. 08:09 AM - Re: CJ fuel sending unit (Roger Kemp M.D.)
     3. 09:04 AM - Re: CJ fuel sending unit (Tom Elliott)
     4. 09:53 AM - Re: CJ fuel sending unit (Gill Gutierrez)
     5. 10:22 AM - Re: HELP! Red Star Member and other flyers in danger of loosing homes (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     6. 10:55 AM - Re: CJ fuel sending unit (A. Dennis Savarese)
     7. 12:52 PM - Re: help! (Jerry Painter)
     8. 12:57 PM - Re: CJ fuel sending unit (keithmckinley)
     9. 01:43 PM - Re: Re: CJ fuel sending unit (Gill Gutierrez)
    10. 02:09 PM - Re: Re: help! (Roger Baker)
    11. 02:42 PM - Re: Re: help! (A. Dennis Savarese)
    12. 03:31 PM - Re: CJ fuel sending unit (keithmckinley)
    13. 07:45 PM - Housai Torque Values (Craig Winkelmann)
    14. 08:08 PM - Re: Re: CJ fuel sending unit (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    15. 08:20 PM - Re: Re: CJ fuel sending unit (Roger Kemp M.D.)
    16. 08:33 PM - Re: CJ fuel sending unit (keithmckinley)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:31:09 AM PST US
    Subject: CJ fuel sending unit
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    Is it possible to replace the stock CJ resistance unit with a bendable capacitance fuel probe that would allow the display of the actual fuel when full vs 60 liters. Has anyone tried this? -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248900#248900


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    Time: 08:09:24 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: CJ fuel sending unit
    Not to my knowledge...there are a few adaptable probes from boat companies that are out there that would work. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:30 AM Subject: Yak-List: CJ fuel sending unit Is it possible to replace the stock CJ resistance unit with a bendable capacitance fuel probe that would allow the display of the actual fuel when full vs 60 liters. Has anyone tried this? -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248900#248900


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    Time: 09:04:28 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Elliott" <N13472@aol.com>
    Subject: CJ fuel sending unit
    There are several units available. Try this. Displaying results 1 - 1 of 1 match (0 seconds) 1. PRINCETON CAPACITANCE FUEL PROBES PRINCETON CAPACITIVE FUEL PROBES * Easy Push Button Calibration - Simple push buttons make calibration easy and accurate. No sensitive screw adjustments to make. Place the probe in tank, ... http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/princefuelprobes.php - 3.8kb Tom Elliott CJ-6A NX63727 702-595-2680 Result page: 1 -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:05 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: CJ fuel sending unit --> <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Not to my knowledge...there are a few adaptable probes from boat companies that are out there that would work. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:30 AM Subject: Yak-List: CJ fuel sending unit --> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> Is it possible to replace the stock CJ resistance unit with a bendable capacitance fuel probe that would allow the display of the actual fuel when full vs 60 liters. Has anyone tried this? -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248900#248900


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    Time: 09:53:29 AM PST US
    From: "Gill Gutierrez" <gill.g@gpimail.com>
    Subject: CJ fuel sending unit
    Guys, Sender probe location and wing dihedral make a full tank reading impossible with electronic probes. A new hole in your fuel tank at the outboard most point would be required. Gill -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:30 AM Subject: Yak-List: CJ fuel sending unit Is it possible to replace the stock CJ resistance unit with a bendable capacitance fuel probe that would allow the display of the actual fuel when full vs 60 liters. Has anyone tried this? -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248900#248900


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    Time: 10:22:46 AM PST US
    Subject: HELP! Red Star Member and other flyers in danger of loosing
    homes
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Is the YAK LIST a proper forum for this subject matter? Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Elliott Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:13 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: HELP! Red Star Member and other flyers in danger of loosing homes They need to contact the General Aviation New (GAN) the original publisher run the "Living with your airplane" I think that what it is called group. For some reason having a mind fart can not think of his name. But have meet him and he is a nice guy. ( may be Dave Sinclair ?) Tom Elliott CJ-6A NX63727 702-595-2680 -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hancock Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: Yak-List: HELP! Red Star Member and other flyers in danger of loosing homes --> <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> Gang, I've been asked by a friend and customer to send out this plea for help. He lives in Driggs, ID on a hangar home in a beautiful development. They have just completed the home only to run into the City who is threatening, now, to remove their runway access privileges....essentially destroying not only the value of their homes, but also their retirement. If you can help or know anyone that has any experience dealing with FAA/City/Airport issues and would be interested in supporting this important fight, please contact Dr. Dave Enrico at skypilot1@silverstar.com See a summary article here: http://www.tetonvalleynews.net/articles/2009/06/17/news/ doc4a32cd4de5d97260583468.txt The question I have, is why is a project like this even necessary considering the current econo.....uh, well....never mind. Barry


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    Time: 10:55:26 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: CJ fuel sending unit
    Now THAT'S an excellent answer! Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Gill Gutierrez To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: CJ fuel sending unit Guys, Sender probe location and wing dihedral make a full tank reading impossible with electronic probes. A new hole in your fuel tank at the outboard most point would be required. Gill -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:30 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: CJ fuel sending unit <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> Is it possible to replace the stock CJ resistance unit with a bendable capacitance fuel probe that would allow the display of the actual fuel when full vs 60 liters. Has anyone tried this? -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248900#248900


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    Time: 12:52:34 PM PST US
    From: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: help!
    Tom and Barry-- Having spent many years in the land development business I can tell you it is a mud hole not for the faint of heart or weak of wallet. Lots of pigs therein who like the mud. Finding knowledgeable people is not easy, but as your friend has probably already figured, he needs a good land use attorney. The chore is to sort through local development regulations and whatever conditions may have been attached to the land use permits that allowed development of the airpark in the first place to see what regulations apply/ied and what permit limitations may have been imposed that could pop up and bite. Often these sorts of things are done with a legal mechanism called a "Conditional Use Permit" or something similar, that often are approved on the "condition" that they be "compatible" with surrounding land uses--whatever that means. Of course, "compatibility" is a moving target. Needless to say, politicians, nosy neighbors and money are a big part of the equation. The FAA is probably not involved unless federal money has been used for the airport. I can't figure it out, but airports don't generally engender a lot of support and enthusiasm from surrounding land owners. Hey! I know! Maybe if you take them all for a ride in one of your nice CJ's they ll get the picture! You might even sell a few! And, a little proactive PR and respectful give and take often works wonders. Among other things, most of us don't like being pushed around by politicians or big money out for a killing (the usual inferred bad guy motivation) and a little public education never hurts. 'Course, we're often seen as spoiled rich kids trying to take over the sand box, average non-flyers not realizing we're just a bunch of struggling taxpayers like everyone else. But, if you go to any meetings you should probably leave your jet at home, Barry. Dave Sclair is/was the publisher of General Aviation News. He was apparently involved in some airpark development years ago, lives/d on one near Tacoma, WA, and publishes/d an occasional section in GAN listing airparks around the country called "Living with your Plane" or some such. Good luck. New Subject: Hey, y'all! The Arlington Fly-in is coming up soon (July 8-12). Hope some of you'll drop in for some good clean flyin' fun with a view of lakes, mountains, Puget Sound and the Islands. Saw Pappy's three toed whatever parked on the warbird ramp a few years ago (but didn't see you, Jim, wish I had), so if he can come all the way from FLA surely some of you folks a little closer by can make the trip. WBA is located on the east side of the field just north of the airport entrance and administrative offices. Can't miss it! Free dogs 'n brats every Saturday, plus who knows during the Fly-in--we ain't no Temperance Association. Come on down! Jerry Painter, PLS (registered Professional Land Surveyor and Land Use Planner, ret.), CFI, A&P, airport bum Wild Blue Aviation 425-876-0865 JP@FlyWBA.com www.FlyWBA.com Time: 02:12:49 PM PST US From: Barry Hancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> Subject: Yak-List: HELP! Red Star Member and other flyers in danger of loosing Homes Gang, I've been asked by a friend and customer to send out this plea for Help. He lives in Driggs, ID on a hangar home in a beautiful Development. They have just completed the home only to run into the City who is threatening, now, to remove their runway access Privileges....essentially destroying not only the value of their Homes, but also their retirement. If you can help or know anyone That has any experience dealing with FAA/City/Airport issues and Would be interested in supporting this important fight, please Contact Dr. Dave Enrico at skypilot1@silverstar.com See a summary article here: http://www.tetonvalleynews.net/articles/2009/06/17/news/ Doc4a32cd4de5d97260583468.txt The question I have, is why is a project like this even necessary Considering the current econo.....uh, well....never mind. Barry Time: 10:14:52 PM PST US From: "Tom Elliott" <N13472@aol.com> Subject: RE: Yak-List: HELP! Red Star Member and other flyers in danger of loosing Homes They need to contact the General Aviation New (GAN) the original publisher Run the "Living with your airplane" I think That what it is called group. For some reason having a mind fart can not Think of his name. But have meet him and he is A nice guy. ( may be Dave Sinclair ?) Tom Elliott CJ-6A NX63727 702-595-2680


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    Time: 12:57:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ fuel sending unit
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    gill.g(at)gpimail.com wrote: > Guys, > > Sender probe location and wing dihedral make a full tank reading impossible > with electronic probes. A new hole in your fuel tank at the outboard most > point would be required. > > Gill > > -- I got that part figures out that's why I was wondering if anyone had come up with some and accomplished some alternate method like using the hole that's already there at the drain. -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248991#248991


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    Time: 01:43:04 PM PST US
    From: "Gill Gutierrez" <gill.g@gpimail.com>
    Subject: Re: CJ fuel sending unit
    The drain has minimal space between the wing surface and the tank plus it is only 3/8 or 1/4 inch NPT fitting. Electronic sender probes require some space for sealing the electronics from the fuel. Also the internal baffling could present probe barriers. Using a probe through a tee fitting in the fuel supply line may work better if the 1/4 diameter probe did not obstruct the fuel flow and could be threaded through the baffling. The main issue here then would be support for the probe tip. I think a 33 inch probe length is available through my supplier and others. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:57 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ fuel sending unit gill.g(at)gpimail.com wrote: > Guys, > > Sender probe location and wing dihedral make a full tank reading impossible > with electronic probes. A new hole in your fuel tank at the outboard most > point would be required. > > Gill > > -- I got that part figures out that's why I was wondering if anyone had come up with some and accomplished some alternate method like using the hole that's already there at the drain. -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248991#248991


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    Time: 02:09:17 PM PST US
    From: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: help!
    I think that the issue in Driggs, Idaho is basically with the FAA. The injunction against the city of Driggs is, as I read it, to prevent the city taking action on the demands of the FAA to deny access to the "homes in hangars" and the "through the fence" hangar homes group. The city of Driggs, it appears, has allowed the "through the fence" and "homes in hangars" use of the airport in spite of the fact that this is a publicly funded (taxpayer financed) facility Such funding is done in the form of cash grants from the FAA. It is the position of the FAA that private homes on such an airport, or access for private homes/hangars to such a publicly funded airport that are not available to the general flying public is a violation of the grant compliance restrictions that the recipients of such grants agree to in accepting public money to build/maintain/expand their airport in the first place. Them folks whut dun dunnit (spent their big bucks on homes and hangars) probly got their collective tits in the wringer... metaphorically speaking. Roger PS Although I strongly support those grant compliance restrictions, if these people in Driggs want to talk to someone who got away with a similar deal, they should talk to Bill Allen. He built multi-million dollar hangar/homes on land leased from a publicly owned and financed airport (Gillespie Field KSEE) in San Diego. This did not please the FAA and they demanded action. However, somehow Allen et.al. weaseled the deal through and the fancy homes/hangars are still there On Jun 18, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Jerry Painter wrote: > <wild.blue@verizon.net> > > > Tom and Barry-- > > Having spent many years in the land development business I can tell > you it > is a mud hole not for the faint of heart or weak of wallet. Lots of > pigs > therein who like the mud. Finding knowledgeable people is not easy, > but as > your friend has probably already figured, he needs a good land use > attorney. > The chore is to sort through local development regulations and > whatever > conditions may have been attached to the land use permits that allowed > development of the airpark in the first place to see what regulations > apply/ied and what permit limitations may have been imposed that > could pop > up and bite. Often these sorts of things are done with a legal > mechanism > called a "Conditional Use Permit" or something similar, that often are > approved on the "condition" that they be "compatible" with > surrounding land > uses--whatever that means. Of course, "compatibility" is a moving > target. > Needless to say, politicians, nosy neighbors and money are a big > part of the > equation. The FAA is probably not involved unless federal money has > been > used for the airport. I can't figure it out, but airports don't > generally > engender a lot of support and enthusiasm from surrounding land > owners. Hey! > I know! Maybe if you take them all for a ride in one of your nice > CJ's they > ll get the picture! You might even sell a few! And, a little > proactive PR > and respectful give and take often works wonders. Among other > things, most > of us don't like being pushed around by politicians or big money out > for a > killing (the usual inferred bad guy motivation) and a little public > education never hurts. 'Course, we're often seen as spoiled rich kids > trying to take over the sand box, average non-flyers not realizing > we're > just a bunch of struggling taxpayers like everyone else. But, if > you go to > any meetings you should probably leave your jet at home, Barry. > > Dave Sclair is/was the publisher of General Aviation News. He was > apparently involved in some airpark development years ago, lives/d > on one > near Tacoma, WA, and publishes/d an occasional section in GAN listing > airparks around the country called "Living with your Plane" or some > such. > > Good luck. > > New Subject: > > Hey, y'all! The Arlington Fly-in is coming up soon (July 8-12). > Hope some > of you'll drop in for some good clean flyin' fun with a view of lakes, > mountains, Puget Sound and the Islands. Saw Pappy's three toed > whatever > parked on the warbird ramp a few years ago (but didn't see you, Jim, > wish I > had), so if he can come all the way from FLA surely some of you > folks a > little closer by can make the trip. WBA is located on the east side > of the > field just north of the airport entrance and administrative > offices. Can't > miss it! Free dogs 'n brats every Saturday, plus who knows during the > Fly-in--we ain't no Temperance Association. Come on down! > > Jerry Painter, PLS (registered Professional Land Surveyor and Land Use > Planner, ret.), CFI, A&P, airport bum > Wild Blue Aviation > 425-876-0865 > JP@FlyWBA.com > www.FlyWBA.com > > Time: 02:12:49 PM PST US > From: Barry Hancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> > Subject: Yak-List: HELP! Red Star Member and other flyers in danger of > loosing > Homes > > > Gang, > > I've been asked by a friend and customer to send out this plea for > Help. He lives in Driggs, ID on a hangar home in a beautiful > Development. They have just completed the home only to run into the > City who is threatening, now, to remove their runway access > Privileges....essentially destroying not only the value of their > Homes, but also their retirement. If you can help or know anyone > That has any experience dealing with FAA/City/Airport issues and > Would be interested in supporting this important fight, please > Contact Dr. Dave Enrico at skypilot1@silverstar.com > > See a summary article here: > > http://www.tetonvalleynews.net/articles/2009/06/17/news/ > Doc4a32cd4de5d97260583468.txt > > The question I have, is why is a project like this even necessary > Considering the current econo.....uh, well....never mind. > > Barry > > > Time: 10:14:52 PM PST US > From: "Tom Elliott" <N13472@aol.com> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: HELP! Red Star Member and other flyers in > danger of > loosing > Homes > > > They need to contact the General Aviation New (GAN) the original > publisher > Run the "Living with your airplane" I think > That what it is called group. For some reason having a mind fart can > not > Think of his name. But have meet him and he is > A nice guy. ( may be Dave Sinclair ?) > > Tom Elliott > CJ-6A NX63727 > 702-595-2680 > >


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    Time: 02:42:58 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: help!
    As a starting point, it might be beneficial for the interested parties to read Advisory Circular 150/5190-7 which talks about through-the-fence operations. http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/advisory_circular/150-5190-7/150 _5190_7.pdf Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Painter To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:48 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: help! <wild.blue@verizon.net> Tom and Barry-- Having spent many years in the land development business I can tell you it is a mud hole not for the faint of heart or weak of wallet. Lots of pigs therein who like the mud. Finding knowledgeable people is not easy, but as your friend has probably already figured, he needs a good land use attorney. The chore is to sort through local development regulations and whatever conditions may have been attached to the land use permits that allowed development of the airpark in the first place to see what regulations apply/ied and what permit limitations may have been imposed that could pop up and bite. Often these sorts of things are done with a legal mechanism called a "Conditional Use Permit" or something similar, that often are approved on the "condition" that they be "compatible" with surrounding land uses--whatever that means. Of course, "compatibility" is a moving target. Needless to say, politicians, nosy neighbors and money are a big part of the equation. The FAA is probably not involved unless federal money has been used for the airport. I can't figure it out, but airports don't generally engender a lot of support and enthusiasm from surrounding land owners. Hey! I know! Maybe if you take them all for a ride in one of your nice CJ's they ll get the picture! You might even sell a few! And, a little proactive PR and respectful give and take often works wonders. Among other things, most of us don't like being pushed around by politicians or big money out for a killing (the usual inferred bad guy motivation) and a little public education never hurts. 'Course, we're often seen as spoiled rich kids trying to take over the sand box, average non-flyers not realizing we're just a bunch of struggling taxpayers like everyone else. But, if you go to any meetings you should probably leave your jet at home, Barry. Dave Sclair is/was the publisher of General Aviation News. He was apparently involved in some airpark development years ago, lives/d on one near Tacoma, WA, and publishes/d an occasional section in GAN listing airparks around the country called "Living with your Plane" or some such. Good luck. New Subject: Hey, y'all! The Arlington Fly-in is coming up soon (July 8-12). Hope some of you'll drop in for some good clean flyin' fun with a view of lakes, mountains, Puget Sound and the Islands. Saw Pappy's three toed whatever parked on the warbird ramp a few years ago (but didn't see you, Jim, wish I had), so if he can come all the way from FLA surely some of you folks a little closer by can make the trip. WBA is located on the east side of the field just north of the airport entrance and administrative offices. Can't miss it! Free dogs 'n brats every Saturday, plus who knows during the Fly-in--we ain't no Temperance Association. Come on down! Jerry Painter, PLS (registered Professional Land Surveyor and Land Use Planner, ret.), CFI, A&P, airport bum Wild Blue Aviation 425-876-0865 JP@FlyWBA.com www.FlyWBA.com Time: 02:12:49 PM PST US From: Barry Hancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> Subject: Yak-List: HELP! Red Star Member and other flyers in danger of loosing Homes Gang, I've been asked by a friend and customer to send out this plea for Help. He lives in Driggs, ID on a hangar home in a beautiful Development. They have just completed the home only to run into the City who is threatening, now, to remove their runway access Privileges....essentially destroying not only the value of their Homes, but also their retirement. If you can help or know anyone That has any experience dealing with FAA/City/Airport issues and Would be interested in supporting this important fight, please Contact Dr. Dave Enrico at skypilot1@silverstar.com See a summary article here: http://www.tetonvalleynews.net/articles/2009/06/17/news/ Doc4a32cd4de5d97260583468.txt The question I have, is why is a project like this even necessary Considering the current econo.....uh, well....never mind. Barry Time: 10:14:52 PM PST US From: "Tom Elliott" <N13472@aol.com> Subject: RE: Yak-List: HELP! Red Star Member and other flyers in danger of loosing Homes They need to contact the General Aviation New (GAN) the original publisher Run the "Living with your airplane" I think That what it is called group. For some reason having a mind fart can not Think of his name. But have meet him and he is A nice guy. ( may be Dave Sinclair ?) Tom Elliott CJ-6A NX63727 702-595-2680


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    Time: 03:31:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ fuel sending unit
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    I'm finding that after a year of ownership that there are very few modifications worth doing on an airplane that's been around a while. Seems that if there was a better way the Chinese probably would have done it. The few mods that I have; oil filter, auto spark plug kit, air filter and intake drain seem like no brainers. Messing with an otherwise decent fuel system is probably not worth the effort. Time and money probably would be better spent on a FF system. Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249022#249022


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    Time: 07:45:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Housai Torque Values
    From: "Craig Winkelmann" <capav8r@gmail.com>
    Looking for the torque values for spark plugs and the air start valve/nozzle on the cylinders. Thanks, Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249050#249050


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    Time: 08:08:10 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: CJ fuel sending unit
    In a message dated 6/18/2009 6:32:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, keith.mckinley@townisp.com writes: I'll put in my view on this and other subjects. I've owned my CJ some 15 years now. Going for the extra fuel is one of the best things I did to my plane. If you do long XC occasionally you find it more comfortable having the gas on board for reserve. I flew the airlines for 34 years, believe me being short on gas is not a comfortable feeling. Than again "short on gas" is individual perception. I did not enjoy using the VFR fuel minimums and landing with thirty minutes of fuel. You have less alternatives and few places to divert to. Now I feel quite comfortable with an one hour plus reserve after my normal 2 hour legs. BTW you can adjust the fuel senders in the tank to read very accurately at the low end of the scale, which for me, is when you really want to know what's left in the tank. Airports, Been to Allen home at SEE for a party one time while out flying the B-24. VERY NICE!!! It would be interesting to know what kind of deal was made for his set up. We just finished (today) resurfacing our runway here on our airpark (FD44). Basically we remove the top soil, graded, put on a limestone/clay base, and re sod the whole runway with a tough hybrid grass used for golf fairways. In 3 weeks time, she'll be ready for use. The nice thing about this, we didn't have to get permission or OKs from anyone. Only fighting was amongst the different homeowners in the association. BTW I'm now home for a while. Dropped 11 250lb bombs on 2 missions in the B-24. Heard the rattle of a 50cal from my waist gun position as I flew the IP to drop point. Had a P-51C for escort. I discovered that I have claustrophobia while setting in and working the belly turret. Believe me gentleman there is nothing like it except the real thing and this is the closest I'll ever be able to get. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> I'm finding that after a year of ownership that there are very few modifications worth doing on an airplane that's been around a while. Seems that if there was a better way the Chinese probably would have done it. The few mods that I have; oil filter, auto spark plug kit, air filter and intake drain seem like no brainers. Messing with an otherwise decent fuel system is probably not worth the effort. Time and money probably would be better spent on a FF system. Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004)


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    Time: 08:20:32 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: CJ fuel sending unit
    . better spent on a FF system. Keith What's a FF system. Agree with all said in your post. Just curious what is a FF system before the imagination runs wild. Doc


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    Time: 08:33:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ fuel sending unit
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    Doc, I shouldn't have said "system"... I was referring to a fuel flow transducer and display unit Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249056#249056




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