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1. 03:42 AM - Re: FAA Form (Craig Payne)
2. 04:59 AM - Re: Re: FAA Form (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 08:25 AM - Fuel Odor in Cockpit (Craig Winkelmann)
4. 08:51 AM - Re: Fuel Odor in Cockpit (jlpartington@att.net)
5. 09:41 AM - Re: Fuel Odor in Cockpit (doug sapp)
6. 09:54 AM - Re: Fuel Odor in Cockpit (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 11:42 AM - Re: Fuel Odor in Cockpit (talew@bellsouth.net)
8. 12:20 PM - Re: Fuel Odor in Cockpit (bill wade)
9. 07:10 PM - propeller paint (talew@bellsouth.net)
10. 08:35 PM - Re: propeller paint (Jim)
11. 09:21 PM - propeller paint Photos (Jim Selby)
12. 09:51 PM - Re: propeller paint Photos (Tom Elliott)
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I believe that form is 8610, which is signed by the FSDO after they have reviewed
your documentation of 2500 hrs *each* of supervised maintenance on engines
and airframes. A certificate from an approved school also works. Then, you are
allowed to take the oral, written and practical tests for an AMT, airframe and
powerplant.
In many FSDOs, I'm told that they no longer count homebuild time as it is not "maintenance".
Anyone know more about what is current practice?
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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That's correct, the form is an 8610-2. This must be filled out in
duplicate. The recommendation letter, typically written by the A&P who
is making the recommendation to the FSDO, should include a statement,
".........meets the requirements of FAR 65.77(b) for airframe and
powerplant work experience."
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
To: yak-list
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:29 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: FAA Form
I believe that form is 8610, which is signed by the FSDO after they
have reviewed your documentation of 2500 hrs *each* of supervised
maintenance on engines and airframes. A certificate from an approved
school also works. Then, you are allowed to take the oral, written and
practical tests for an AMT, airframe and powerplant.
In many FSDOs, I'm told that they no longer count homebuild time as it
is not "maintenance". Anyone know more about what is current practice?
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Fuel Odor in Cockpit |
I am new to owning a CJ. The plane has a very strong fuel odor in the cockpit.
It is not present after the plane has been sitting in the hangar even with the
canopy closed. I've opened the access door for the header tank on the belly
and it is dry. Not weeping from the wings that I can see either. The smell
becomes noticeable after engine start and does not go away. So I have been suspect
of something forward of the firewall but find nothing leaking there either.
Any ideas are welcome as to where to look.
Thanks,
Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Odor in Cockpit |
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Odor in Cockpit |
Check to make sure that the fittings at the primer are secure. Also check
to make sure that the wobble pump is not leaking. To check both of these
items remove the right hand kick panel in the front pit. The wobble pump
may be leaking fuel when you pump up pressure on start up, same with the
primer. Let me know what you find.
Always Yakin,
doug
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Craig Winkelmann <capav8r@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am new to owning a CJ. The plane has a very strong fuel odor in the
> cockpit. It is not present after the plane has been sitting in the hangar
> even with the canopy closed. I've opened the access door for the header
> tank on the belly and it is dry. Not weeping from the wings that I can see
> either. The smell becomes noticeable after engine start and does not go
> away. So I have been suspect of something forward of the firewall but find
> nothing leaking there either.
>
> Any ideas are welcome as to where to look.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250590#250590
>
>
--
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
Phone 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Odor in Cockpit |
Craig,
Have you looked at the fuel pressure senders which are located on the
back side of the firewall on the right? Remove the large inspection
panel on the right and look on the back side of the firewall, down low
toward the bottom-right and forward of the false firewall. They should
be painted yellow in the center. Sounds like it pressure related.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Winkelmann
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:22 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Fuel Odor in Cockpit
I am new to owning a CJ. The plane has a very strong fuel odor in the
cockpit. It is not present after the plane has been sitting in the
hangar even with the canopy closed. I've opened the access door for the
header tank on the belly and it is dry. Not weeping from the wings that
I can see either. The smell becomes noticeable after engine start and
does not go away. So I have been suspect of something forward of the
firewall but find nothing leaking there either.
Any ideas are welcome as to where to look.
Thanks,
Craig
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250590#250590
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Odor in Cockpit |
Craig,
I would start with the primer.
Terry
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Craig Winkelmann" <capav8r@gmail.com>
>
>
I am new to owning a CJ. The plane has a very strong fuel odor in the cockpit.
It is not present after the plane has been sitting in the hangar even with the
canopy closed. I've opened the access door for the header tank on the belly and
it is dry. Not weeping from the wings that I can see either. The smell becomes
noticeable after engine start and does not go away. So I have been suspect of
> something forward of the firewall but find nothing leaking there either.
>
> Any ideas are welcome as to where to look.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250590#250590
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Odor in Cockpit |
Also check your fuel lines by hand shortly after having pressure in them, I
fly a Yak and Russian rubber sucks had a small primer fuel line leak - wee
p about three inches from the fitting=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________
_________=0AFrom: Craig Winkelmann <capav8r@gmail.com>=0ATo: yak-list@matro
nics.com=0ASent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:22:48 AM=0ASubject: Yak-List: Fue
capav8r@gmail.com>=0A=0AI am new to owning a CJ.- The plane has a very st
rong fuel odor in the cockpit.- It is not present after the plane has bee
n sitting in the hangar even with the canopy closed.- I've opened the acc
ess door for the header tank on the belly and it is dry.- Not weeping fro
m the wings that I can see either.- The smell becomes noticeable after en
gine start and does not go away.- So I have been suspect of something for
ward of the firewall but find nothing leaking there either.=0A=0AAny ideas
are welcome as to where to look.=0A=0AThanks,=0A=0ACraig=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead
this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p
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Hi All,
I am going to install new propeller blades on my CJ and would like
recommendations on the type of paint and primer you find most suitable
for an aluminum propeller.
All comments are appreciated.
Thanks,
Terry Lewis
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| Subject: | Re: propeller paint |
I used a etching primer on the bare alum,after I had stripped it of Paint,
than bought a Two Part Auto paint and spayed it, it came out real well.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: <talew@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:54 PM
Subject: Yak-List: propeller paint
>
>
> Hi All,
> I am going to install new propeller blades on my CJ and would like
> recommendations on the type of paint and primer you find most suitable
> for an aluminum propeller.
> All comments are appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Terry Lewis
>
>
>
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| Subject: | propeller paint Photos |
>
> I used a etching primer on the bare alum,after I had stripped it of Paint,
> than bought a Two Part Auto paint and spayed it, it came out real well.
> Jim
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| Subject: | propeller paint Photos |
Very nice Jim, American propeller will be jealous.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
702-595-2680
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Selby
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 9:16 PM
Subject: Yak-List: propeller paint Photos
>
> I used a etching primer on the bare alum,after I had stripped it of
> Paint, than bought a Two Part Auto paint and spayed it, it came out real
well.
> Jim
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