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1. 05:47 AM - Re: Front prop shaft seal (cjpilot710@aol.com)
2. 05:48 AM - Re: Front prop shaft seal (cjpilot710@aol.com)
3. 06:33 AM - Re: Front prop shaft seal (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 06:33 AM - Re: Front prop shaft seal (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 11:43 AM - Re: Front prop shaft seal (Walter Lannon)
6. 11:59 AM - Number on Nose (kalunde)
7. 01:17 PM - Re: Number on Nose (talew@bellsouth.net)
8. 01:18 PM - Re: Number on Nose (doug sapp)
9. 02:08 PM - Re: Number on Nose (Walter Lannon)
10. 02:16 PM - Re: Number on Nose (Roger Kemp M.D.)
11. 02:18 PM - Re: Number on Nose (Roger Kemp M.D.)
12. 06:20 PM - Prop Shaft seal (Chris Wise)
13. 08:25 PM - Re: Prop Shaft seal (Roger Kemp M.D.)
14. 09:18 PM - Re: Prop Shaft seal (Chris Wise)
15. 09:22 PM - Maximum structural cruise (Warren Hill)
16. 09:24 PM - Re: CJ-6A tool kit (Warren Hill)
17. 09:54 PM - Re: Prop Shaft seal (Roger Kemp M.D.)
18. 09:54 PM - Re: CJ-6A tool kit (Roger Kemp M.D.)
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| Subject: | Re: Front prop shaft seal |
That seal is sort of like a V shape. Make sure you put it in correctly OR
she'll hemorrhage worse than before.
Also, its good idea to take a very fine emery cloth and remove any
scratches or sharp edges on sides that the piston rides in. It is surprising
to
me that they show up there but its common and usually the cause of a lot of
leaks.
Should take you :30 to :45 minutes to do.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/25/2009 5:43:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wise@txc.net.au writes:
G'Day,
The prop shaft front seal my friends Yak 18T has decided to have a
hemorrhage and is leaking like a sieve.
We are about to remove the front section and replace the seal.
Have any of you done this seal replacement and if so, are there any
intricate snags that we should be aware of?
Any advice before we start this job would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and cheers,
Chris.
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| Subject: | Re: Front prop shaft seal |
Oooooops.
I thinks I was talking about the wrong problem! Me thinks I was talking
about the prop seal. Disregard last post.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/25/2009 5:43:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wise@txc.net.au writes:
G'Day,
The prop shaft front seal my friends Yak 18T has decided to have a
hemorrhage and is leaking like a sieve.
We are about to remove the front section and replace the seal.
Have any of you done this seal replacement and if so, are there any
intricate snags that we should be aware of?
Any advice before we start this job would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and cheers,
Chris.
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| Subject: | Re: Front prop shaft seal |
Pappy,
I believe he was asking about the prop SHAFT seal. Not the prop hub
piston/dome seal. That's definitely not a 30-45 minute job.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: cjpilot710@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Front prop shaft seal
That seal is sort of like a V shape. Make sure you put it in
correctly OR she'll hemorrhage worse than before.
Also, its good idea to take a very fine emery cloth and remove any
scratches or sharp edges on sides that the piston rides in. It is
surprising to me that they show up there but its common and usually the
cause of a lot of leaks.
Should take you :30 to :45 minutes to do.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/25/2009 5:43:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wise@txc.net.au writes:
G'Day,
The prop shaft front seal my friends Yak 18T has decided to have a
hemorrhage and is leaking like a sieve.
We are about to remove the front section and replace the seal.
Have any of you done this seal replacement and if so, are there any
intricate snags that we should be aware of?
Any advice before we start this job would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and cheers,
Chris.
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| Subject: | Re: Front prop shaft seal |
Copy that. Disregard my reply please Pappy.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: cjpilot710@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Front prop shaft seal
Oooooops.
I thinks I was talking about the wrong problem! Me thinks I was
talking about the prop seal. Disregard last post.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/25/2009 5:43:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wise@txc.net.au writes:
G'Day,
The prop shaft front seal my friends Yak 18T has decided to have a
hemorrhage and is leaking like a sieve.
We are about to remove the front section and replace the seal.
Have any of you done this seal replacement and if so, are there any
intricate snags that we should be aware of?
Any advice before we start this job would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and cheers,
Chris.
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| Subject: | Re: Front prop shaft seal |
Have you checked the M14P Manual. If you are describing a leak from the area of
the engine front section (gearbox) immediately behind the propellor mounting
flange it is possible that there is no seal to change.
That would be the case with Pratt & Whitney engines that rely on a "slinger ring"
to return thrust bearing lube oil to the crank case.
Since I do not have the manual in front of me I don't know if that is the case
with the M14P. If it is you may want to consider the possibility of a front
case vent problem.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Wise
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 2:33 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Front prop shaft seal
G'Day,
The prop shaft front seal my friends Yak 18T has decided to have a hemorrhage
and is leaking like a sieve.
We are about to remove the front section and replace the seal.
Have any of you done this seal replacement and if so, are there any intricate
snags that we should be aware of?
Any advice before we start this job would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and cheers,
Chris.
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Ok, usually I am quiet and watch the emails go flying by, but I have to ask a question,
that I am asked all the time.
I have the number 69 on the nose of my changalicious, N7NF.
What does that mean? if anything. Thanks guys, don't crucify me....
Thanks
--------
Barrington Miles
"N7NF"
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254814#254814
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| Subject: | Re: Number on Nose |
That number on the nose is usually the last two numbers of the aircraft serial
number. In your case, that's not the case.
Terry
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "kalunde" <chinesewarbird@gmail.com>
>
>
Ok, usually I am quiet and watch the emails go flying by, but I have to ask a
> question, that I am asked all the time.
>
> I have the number 69 on the nose of my changalicious, N7NF.
>
> What does that mean? if anything. Thanks guys, don't crucify me....
>
> Thanks
>
> --------
> Barrington Miles
> "N7NF"
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254814#254814
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Number on Nose |
I think it's just the aircraft number within the squadron. Jack are you
lurking?? (he would know for sure.
Doug
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM, kalunde <chinesewarbird@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, usually I am quiet and watch the emails go flying by, but I have to ask
> a question, that I am asked all the time.
>
> I have the number 69 on the nose of my changalicious, N7NF.
>
> What does that mean? if anything. Thanks guys, don't crucify me....
>
> Thanks
>
> --------
> Barrington Miles
> "N7NF"
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254814#254814
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Number on Nose |
Doug is correct.
It is the last two of the three digit squadron ident. Well, that is assuming it's
the same number it had on arrival from China.
Walt
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From: doug sapp
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Number on Nose
I think it's just the aircraft number within the squadron. Jack are you lurking??
(he would know for sure.
Doug
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM, kalunde <chinesewarbird@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, usually I am quiet and watch the emails go flying by, but I have to ask
a question, that I am asked all the time.
I have the number 69 on the nose of my changalicious, N7NF.
What does that mean? if anything. Thanks guys, don't crucify me....
Thanks
--------
Barrington Miles
"N7NF"
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254814#254814
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Muff diver...cunilingus! The gays interrupt it another.
Doc
DHS Class of 69
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kalunde
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 1:59 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Number on Nose
Ok, usually I am quiet and watch the emails go flying by, but I have to ask
a question, that I am asked all the time.
I have the number 69 on the nose of my changalicious, N7NF.
What does that mean? if anything. Thanks guys, don't crucify me....
Thanks
--------
Barrington Miles
"N7NF"
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254814#254814
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Terry,
I correct for Eastern Bloc AC that is.
Doc
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of talew@bellsouth.net
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Number on Nose
That number on the nose is usually the last two numbers of the aircraft serial
number. In your case, that's not the case.
Terry
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "kalunde" <chinesewarbird@gmail.com>
>
>
Ok, usually I am quiet and watch the emails go flying by, but I have to ask a
> question, that I am asked all the time.
>
> I have the number 69 on the nose of my changalicious, N7NF.
>
> What does that mean? if anything. Thanks guys, don't crucify me....
>
> Thanks
>
> --------
> Barrington Miles
> "N7NF"
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254814#254814
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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G'Day,
Thanks to Walt, Pappy and Dennis for replying.
The M14P has a rubber lip seal as well as a slinger, like Walt says.
The slinger by itself is inadequate, especially during aeros.
Any other advice would be appreciated re removing prop reduction box and
the prop shaft.
Thanks and Cheers,
Chris.
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Chris,
Do a search in the Matronics archives for approximately 3 years ago. I have
forgotten the gentleman's name in New Jersey that had or has a Sukoi. He's
a acro competitor kind of guy. He had to pull the nose case on his M-14.
There is a "special" tool that is needed to remove the nose case. The guys
at West London Aero club can probably help out with some advise also along
with supplying the "tool" needed to pull the case off the prop shaft.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wise
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:19 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Prop Shaft seal
G'Day,
Thanks to Walt, Pappy and Dennis for replying.
The M14P has a rubber lip seal as well as a slinger, like Walt says.
The slinger by itself is inadequate, especially during aeros.
Any other advice would be appreciated re removing prop reduction box and the
prop shaft.
Thanks and Cheers,
Chris.
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Shaft seal |
G'Day Doc,
Thanks for that. Doyou have an email address for the guys at West London
Aero Club?
Cheers,
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D.
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Prop Shaft seal
Chris,
Do a search in the Matronics archives for approximately 3 years ago. I
have forgotten the gentleman's name in New Jersey that had or has a
Sukoi. He's a acro competitor kind of guy. He had to pull the nose case
on his M-14. There is a "special" tool that is needed to remove the
nose case. The guys at West London Aero club can probably help out with
some advise also along with supplying the "tool" needed to pull the case
off the prop shaft.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wise
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:19 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Prop Shaft seal
G'Day,
Thanks to Walt, Pappy and Dennis for replying.
The M14P has a rubber lip seal as well as a slinger, like Walt says.
The slinger by itself is inadequate, especially during aeros.
Any other advice would be appreciated re removing prop reduction box
and the prop shaft.
Thanks and Cheers,
Chris.
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| Subject: | Maximum structural cruise |
Fellow CJ-ers,
I wonder if there is a consensus on a figure in knots for maximum
structural cruise for the CJ-6A?
Warren Hill
Mesa, AZ
On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Chris Wise wrote:
> G'Day,
>
> Thanks to Walt, Pappy and Dennis for replying.
> The M14P has a rubber lip seal as well as a slinger, like Walt says.
> The slinger by itself is inadequate, especially during aeros.
> Any other advice would be appreciated re removing prop reduction box
> and the prop shaft.
>
> Thanks and Cheers,
> Chris.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CJ-6A tool kit |
Guys,
Looking for a complete CJ-6A tool kit. Any ideas where I might find one?
Warren Hill
Mesa, AZ
On Jul 26, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Chris Wise wrote:
> G'Day Doc,
>
> Thanks for that. Doyou have an email address for the guys at West
> London Aero Club?
>
> Cheers,
> Chris.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Kemp M.D.
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 12:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Prop Shaft seal
>
> Chris,
> Do a search in the Matronics archives for approximately 3 years ago.
> I have forgotten the gentlemans name in New Jersey that had or has
> a Sukoi. Hes a acro competitor kind of guy. He had to pull the
> nose case on his M-14. There is a special tool that is needed to
> remove the nose case. The guys at West London Aero club can
> probably help out with some advise also along with supplying the
> tool needed to pull the case off the prop shaft.
> Doc
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Chris Wise
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:19 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Prop Shaft seal
>
> G'Day,
>
> Thanks to Walt, Pappy and Dennis for replying.
> The M14P has a rubber lip seal as well as a slinger, like Walt says.
> The slinger by itself is inadequate, especially during aeros.
> Any other advice would be appreciated re removing prop reduction box
> and the prop shaft.
>
> Thanks and Cheers,
> Chris.
>
>
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Same Chris,
Here is their website. http://www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk All their contact
info on their home page.
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wise
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Prop Shaft seal
G'Day Doc,
Thanks for that. Doyou have an email address for the guys at West London
Aero Club?
Cheers,
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D. <mailto:viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Prop Shaft seal
Chris,
Do a search in the Matronics archives for approximately 3 years ago. I have
forgotten the gentleman's name in New Jersey that had or has a Sukoi. He's
a acro competitor kind of guy. He had to pull the nose case on his M-14.
There is a "special" tool that is needed to remove the nose case. The guys
at West London Aero club can probably help out with some advise also along
with supplying the "tool" needed to pull the case off the prop shaft.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wise
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:19 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Prop Shaft seal
G'Day,
Thanks to Walt, Pappy and Dennis for replying.
The M14P has a rubber lip seal as well as a slinger, like Walt says.
The slinger by itself is inadequate, especially during aeros.
Any other advice would be appreciated re removing prop reduction box and the
prop shaft.
Thanks and Cheers,
Chris.
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Try Doug Sapp.
Doc
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Warren Hill
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ-6A tool kit
Guys,
Looking for a complete CJ-6A tool kit. Any ideas where I might find one?
Warren Hill
Mesa, AZ
On Jul 26, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Chris Wise wrote:
> G'Day Doc,
>
> Thanks for that. Doyou have an email address for the guys at West
> London Aero Club?
>
> Cheers,
> Chris.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Kemp M.D.
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 12:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Prop Shaft seal
>
> Chris,
> Do a search in the Matronics archives for approximately 3 years ago.
> I have forgotten the gentleman's name in New Jersey that had or has
> a Sukoi. He's a acro competitor kind of guy. He had to pull the
> nose case on his M-14. There is a "special" tool that is needed to
> remove the nose case. The guys at West London Aero club can
> probably help out with some advise also along with supplying the
> "tool" needed to pull the case off the prop shaft.
> Doc
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
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> ] On Behalf Of Chris Wise
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:19 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Prop Shaft seal
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> G'Day,
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> Thanks to Walt, Pappy and Dennis for replying.
> The M14P has a rubber lip seal as well as a slinger, like Walt says.
> The slinger by itself is inadequate, especially during aeros.
> Any other advice would be appreciated re removing prop reduction box
> and the prop shaft.
>
> Thanks and Cheers,
> Chris.
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