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3. 09:23 AM - Re: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333 (Roger Kemp M.D.)
4. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333 (Roger Kemp M.D.)
5. 07:47 PM - Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333 (keithmckinley)
6. 08:59 PM - Re: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333 (Mark Davis)
7. 09:09 PM - Housai oil ring mod (Jay McIntyre)
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| Subject: | Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333 |
Oh boy... Here we go.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:25 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
--> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Keith,
We can debate the value of AF vs Navy over a few beers! But when it
comes to ANG..AD AF, Marines, and Navy all come calling. We get the best
of the best!
Are you good enough?
Doc
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:40 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
--> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
Getting recommended to attend to Top Gun, Fighter Weapons School or WTI
(Marines) takes a helluva lot more time than two years.
I wish I had known (before I spent 6 years getting the nod) that I could
have done it in under a week.
Probably gives out a set of AF wings when you're done. (Naval Aviator
wings would take an additional week.)
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
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| Subject: | Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333 |
The "Best of the Best" go to the Air National Guard? Shoot, I didn't
know it was made up mostly of Marines Doc. Thanks for telling me!
"We can debate the value of AF vs Navy over a few beers anytime", but a
comment:
Keith was a Marine. Do not equate that to being "in the Navy". The
Marines are to the Navy as a flush chain is to an old toilet; Part of
it, but not IN it.
That point aside, also be aware that Sailors and Marines fight at every
opportunity, until someone from the Air Force walks by, then they beat
the crap out of those poor guys as a team.
Finally, tell me something on a professional note: Since we both would
agree that the Air Force has tactical missions in the real world....
Just who is providing EW support for your aircraft? Including the F-117
models back before they retired? Hmmm? Did you know that the Air Force
CONTRACTED the Department of the Navy to do that for them? Yep. Right
after they retired the EF-111. An "embarrassing fact" if you ask me.
End of debate.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:25 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
--> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Keith,
We can debate the value of AF vs Navy over a few beers! But when it
comes to ANG..AD AF, Marines, and Navy all come calling. We get the best
of the best!
Are you good enough?
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:40 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
--> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
Getting recommended to attend to Top Gun, Fighter Weapons School or WTI
(Marines) takes a helluva lot more time than two years.
I wish I had known (before I spent 6 years getting the nod) that I could
have done it in under a week.
Probably gives out a set of AF wings when you're done. (Naval Aviator
wings would take an additional week.)
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255290#255290
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| Subject: | Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333 |
Nah, everybody is at OSH. I'll blow over. Besides, Keith has already been in
the Guard after his AD tour...see what I meant?
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Oh boy... Here we go.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:25 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
--> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Keith,
We can debate the value of AF vs Navy over a few beers! But when it
comes to ANG..AD AF, Marines, and Navy all come calling. We get the best
of the best!
Are you good enough?
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:40 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
--> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
Getting recommended to attend to Top Gun, Fighter Weapons School or WTI
(Marines) takes a helluva lot more time than two years.
I wish I had known (before I spent 6 years getting the nod) that I could
have done it in under a week.
Probably gives out a set of AF wings when you're done. (Naval Aviator
wings would take an additional week.)
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255290#255290
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| Subject: | Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333 |
Yes as I remember it was a cost cutting measure to incorporate the AF
Ardvark Drivers with the A-6 guys to get all in one airframe at one cost.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:16 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
The "Best of the Best" go to the Air National Guard? Shoot, I didn't
know it was made up mostly of Marines Doc. Thanks for telling me!
"We can debate the value of AF vs Navy over a few beers anytime", but a
comment:
Keith was a Marine. Do not equate that to being "in the Navy". The
Marines are to the Navy as a flush chain is to an old toilet; Part of
it, but not IN it.
That point aside, also be aware that Sailors and Marines fight at every
opportunity, until someone from the Air Force walks by, then they beat
the crap out of those poor guys as a team.
Finally, tell me something on a professional note: Since we both would
agree that the Air Force has tactical missions in the real world....
Just who is providing EW support for your aircraft? Including the F-117
models back before they retired? Hmmm? Did you know that the Air Force
CONTRACTED the Department of the Navy to do that for them? Yep. Right
after they retired the EF-111. An "embarrassing fact" if you ask me.
End of debate.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:25 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
--> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Keith,
We can debate the value of AF vs Navy over a few beers! But when it
comes to ANG..AD AF, Marines, and Navy all come calling. We get the best
of the best!
Are you good enough?
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:40 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
--> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
Getting recommended to attend to Top Gun, Fighter Weapons School or WTI
(Marines) takes a helluva lot more time than two years.
I wish I had known (before I spent 6 years getting the nod) that I could
have done it in under a week.
Probably gives out a set of AF wings when you're done. (Naval Aviator
wings would take an additional week.)
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255290#255290
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| Subject: | Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333 |
I got hired into the ANG guard unit to "square it away"
[Wink]
Hey Mark...I'll fly on your wing any day! Who needs a stinkin FAST card!
S/F
Wizard
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
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| Subject: | Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333 |
Yeah, but you take the Navy guys off of the boat and deploy them to your
typical country club AFB and you ruin them forever! All those shipboard
skills deteriorate rapidly. They lose their ability to walk on bulkheads
(walls) on a rolling ship, no longer can they sleep under a jet blast
deflector during flight ops that's making shit fall off of the walls in
their stateroom, they get overly sensitive because they're not used to
getting pounded on by LSO's after every trap, their skills dull for their
night joinups on a tanker with a low fuel state because the deck's foul,
they forget how to read stuff like " - HX S.CHLUIM LoBIC EGAR PNUTL T1"
(Interpreted to mean, "No grade pass (shitty grade) high start, settle on
chase lineup in the middle, low flat in close, ease gun at the ramp, pull
nose up to land. Taxi one wire."), but mostly they forget what it's like to
get shot up a dead cow's ass (night cat) and they learn to land at night
without their knees shaking afterward. Yup, ruins 'em forever! : )
Mark Davis
N44YK
(former wing and training qualified LSO)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Yes as I remember it was a cost cutting measure to incorporate the AF
> Ardvark Drivers with the A-6 guys to get all in one airframe at one cost.
> Doc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark
> G
> CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:16 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
>
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
>
> The "Best of the Best" go to the Air National Guard? Shoot, I didn't
> know it was made up mostly of Marines Doc. Thanks for telling me!
>
> "We can debate the value of AF vs Navy over a few beers anytime", but a
> comment:
>
> Keith was a Marine. Do not equate that to being "in the Navy". The
> Marines are to the Navy as a flush chain is to an old toilet; Part of
> it, but not IN it.
>
> That point aside, also be aware that Sailors and Marines fight at every
> opportunity, until someone from the Air Force walks by, then they beat
> the crap out of those poor guys as a team.
>
> Finally, tell me something on a professional note: Since we both would
> agree that the Air Force has tactical missions in the real world....
> Just who is providing EW support for your aircraft? Including the F-117
> models back before they retired? Hmmm? Did you know that the Air Force
> CONTRACTED the Department of the Navy to do that for them? Yep. Right
> after they retired the EF-111. An "embarrassing fact" if you ask me.
>
> End of debate.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
> M.D.
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:25 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
>
> --> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Keith,
> We can debate the value of AF vs Navy over a few beers! But when it
> comes to ANG..AD AF, Marines, and Navy all come calling. We get the best
> of the best!
> Are you good enough?
> Doc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:40 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: LoPresti Fury Top Gun at AirVenture Booth 333
>
> --> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
>
> Getting recommended to attend to Top Gun, Fighter Weapons School or WTI
> (Marines) takes a helluva lot more time than two years.
>
> I wish I had known (before I spent 6 years getting the nod) that I could
> have done it in under a week.
>
> Probably gives out a set of AF wings when you're done. (Naval Aviator
> wings would take an additional week.)
>
> --------
> Keith McKinley
> 700HS
> KFIT
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255290#255290
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Housai oil ring mod |
Hi all.
Anyone out there have any experience or advice with regards to installing
oil control rings in the standard CJ6 engine?
I understand that there are suitable rings out there being used in the M-14
and the results are vastly reduced oil burns.
Cheers, Jay
New Zealand
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