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1. 12:44 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
2. 02:10 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (Byron Fox)
3. 02:49 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (kingcj6@aol.com)
4. 02:52 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 03:18 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (Byron Fox)
6. 03:47 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (Chris Wise)
7. 07:49 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (cjpilot710@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring |
Ever think of just running without them?
Mark Bitterlich
P.s. Hope this does not open a bag of worms, but it is a do-able thing
unless you live in extremely cold weather.
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring
For our M14P conversion, we're hunting for Yak 52,55 or 18T shutters and
ring. Please contact me off-line. Thanks, Blitz
415-307-2405
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring |
I have considered running without shutters, Mark. Dennis Savarese made the
same suggestion based on experience he's had. I've asked LA-based Ron Lee
how often he flies with his shutters closed on his M14P converted CJ.
"Often," was the response.
From June - Sept. in the San Francisco Bay Area , we're flying in +/- 80
degree weather. Thereafter, it's 50s and 60s, and rarely in the low 40s. So,
I'm pondering doing without.
I wonder if anyone's considered some sort of bolt on baffling for cold
weather, like the folks who partial cover their oil cooler intakes during
the winter.
...Blitz
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Ever think of just running without them?
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
> P.s. Hope this does not open a bag of worms, but it is a do-able thing
> unless you live in extremely cold weather.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring
>
>
> For our M14P conversion, we're hunting for Yak 52,55 or 18T shutters and
> ring. Please contact me off-line. Thanks, Blitz
>
> 415-307-2405
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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Byron M. Fox
80 Milland Drive
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-307-2405
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring |
I have an old ski parka that you could tie-strap in.? For you, I'll let it go at
a substantial discount!
-----Original Message-----
From: Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:07 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring
I have considered running without shutters, Mark. Dennis Savarese made the same
suggestion based on experience he's had. I've asked LA-based Ron Lee how often
he flies with his shutters closed on his M14P converted CJ. "Often," was the
response.
?From June - Sept. in the San Francisco Bay Area , we're flying in +/- 80 degree
weather. Thereafter, it's 50s and 60s, and rarely in the low 40s. So, I'm pondering
doing without.
I wonder if anyone's considered some sort of bolt on baffling for cold weather,
like the folks who partial cover their oil cooler intakes during the winter.
...Blitz
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14
64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
Ever think of just running without them?
Mark Bitterlich
P.s. ?Hope this does not open a bag of worms, but it is a do-able thing
unless you live in extremely cold weather.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring
For our M14P conversion, we're hunting for Yak 52,55 or 18T shutters and
ring. Please contact me off-line. Thanks, Blitz
415-307-2405
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring |
Byron, what prop will you be running on the M14? If a Russian V530,
will you be installing a Yak18T spinner?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Byron Fox
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring
I have considered running without shutters, Mark. Dennis Savarese made
the same suggestion based on experience he's had. I've asked LA-based
Ron Lee how often he flies with his shutters closed on his M14P
converted CJ. "Often," was the response.
From June - Sept. in the San Francisco Bay Area , we're flying in +/-
80 degree weather. Thereafter, it's 50s and 60s, and rarely in the low
40s. So, I'm pondering doing without.
I wonder if anyone's considered some sort of bolt on baffling for cold
weather, like the folks who partial cover their oil cooler intakes
during the winter.
...Blitz
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry
Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Ever think of just running without them?
Mark Bitterlich
P.s. Hope this does not open a bag of worms, but it is a do-able
thing
unless you live in extremely cold weather.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring
For our M14P conversion, we're hunting for Yak 52,55 or 18T shutters
and
ring. Please contact me off-line. Thanks, Blitz
415-307-2405
Sent from my iPhone
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415-307-2405
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring |
We'll be running MT's erection-inducing FW 190 replica, Dennis. As my
testosterone level declines, I must do something.....
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM, A. Dennis Savarese <
dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Byron, what prop will you be running on the M14? If a Russian V530, will
> you be installing a Yak18T spinner?
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com>
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:07 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring
>
> I have considered running without shutters, Mark. Dennis Savarese made the
> same suggestion based on experience he's had. I've asked LA-based Ron Lee
> how often he flies with his shutters closed on his M14P converted CJ.
> "Often," was the response.
> From June - Sept. in the San Francisco Bay Area , we're flying in +/- 80
> degree weather. Thereafter, it's 50s and 60s, and rarely in the low 40s. So,
> I'm pondering doing without.
> I wonder if anyone's considered some sort of bolt on baffling for cold
> weather, like the folks who partial cover their oil cooler intakes during
> the winter.
>
> ...Blitz
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
> MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
>
>> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>>
>> Ever think of just running without them?
>>
>> Mark Bitterlich
>>
>> P.s. Hope this does not open a bag of worms, but it is a do-able thing
>> unless you live in extremely cold weather.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring
>>
>>
>> For our M14P conversion, we're hunting for Yak 52,55 or 18T shutters and
>> ring. Please contact me off-line. Thanks, Blitz
>>
>> 415-307-2405
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
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> Mill Valley, CA 94941
> 415-307-2405
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring |
G'Day All,
We operate a 18T Adelaide South Australia.
Same story, the rings and shutters where not so nice. Considering that
we do not have the cold Russian Temps we removed them, as did our LAME
with his 18.
Takes a little bit longer to warm up in the winter before flying, other
than that, no problems. Have on occasion closed the oil cooler to
warm-up faster, not a great deal of dif.
Consider that most other radial engines do not have shutters. i.e.. just
about all the aircraft with P&W.
So I think that if you are operating in really cold temps, I would run
shutters.
Cheers,
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: Byron Fox
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring
I have considered running without shutters, Mark. Dennis Savarese made
the same suggestion based on experience he's had. I've asked LA-based
Ron Lee how often he flies with his shutters closed on his M14P
converted CJ. "Often," was the response.
From June - Sept. in the San Francisco Bay Area , we're flying in +/-
80 degree weather. Thereafter, it's 50s and 60s, and rarely in the low
40s. So, I'm pondering doing without.
I wonder if anyone's considered some sort of bolt on baffling for cold
weather, like the folks who partial cover their oil cooler intakes
during the winter.
...Blitz
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry
Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Ever think of just running without them?
Mark Bitterlich
P.s. Hope this does not open a bag of worms, but it is a do-able
thing
unless you live in extremely cold weather.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring
For our M14P conversion, we're hunting for Yak 52,55 or 18T shutters
and
ring. Please contact me off-line. Thanks, Blitz
415-307-2405
Sent from my iPhone
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80 Milland Drive
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415-307-2405
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring |
I am trying to find the two rings that position the shutters.
I could run the engine without them and at these Florida temps and doing
acro they would not be missed at all. However this engine will get too cool
during descents from a x county flight at altitude. That is not good for
any engine. I try to keep an even temp (160C of the gage) during cruise
and when I start down I do close the shutters a little so as not to drop into
the red. It does not take much.
On the big PW and Wrights, we are very religious about cowl flaps
operation. Cracked cylinders from to quick a cool down during descent, is
expensive on those engines. And I guarantee you they will crack.
Than again some engines can take rapid changes in temps, and the M-14 may
very be one of those. However I've always tried to avoid that.
If anyone out has shutter parts, I am interested.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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