---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/16/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:44 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E) 2. 02:10 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (Byron Fox) 3. 02:49 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (kingcj6@aol.com) 4. 02:52 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (A. Dennis Savarese) 5. 03:18 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (Byron Fox) 6. 03:47 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (Chris Wise) 7. 07:49 PM - Re: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring (cjpilot710@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:44:37 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" Ever think of just running without them? Mark Bitterlich P.s. Hope this does not open a bag of worms, but it is a do-able thing unless you live in extremely cold weather. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring For our M14P conversion, we're hunting for Yak 52,55 or 18T shutters and ring. Please contact me off-line. Thanks, Blitz 415-307-2405 Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:06 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring From: Byron Fox I have considered running without shutters, Mark. Dennis Savarese made the same suggestion based on experience he's had. I've asked LA-based Ron Lee how often he flies with his shutters closed on his M14P converted CJ. "Often," was the response. From June - Sept. in the San Francisco Bay Area , we're flying in +/- 80 degree weather. Thereafter, it's 50s and 60s, and rarely in the low 40s. So, I'm pondering doing without. I wonder if anyone's considered some sort of bolt on baffling for cold weather, like the folks who partial cover their oil cooler intakes during the winter. ...Blitz On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: > MALS-14 64E" > > Ever think of just running without them? > > Mark Bitterlich > > P.s. Hope this does not open a bag of worms, but it is a do-able thing > unless you live in extremely cold weather. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring > > > For our M14P conversion, we're hunting for Yak 52,55 or 18T shutters and > ring. Please contact me off-line. Thanks, Blitz > > 415-307-2405 > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- Byron M. Fox 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-307-2405 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:21 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring From: kingcj6@aol.com I have an old ski parka that you could tie-strap in.? For you, I'll let it go at a substantial discount! -----Original Message----- From: Byron Fox Sent: Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:07 pm Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring I have considered running without shutters, Mark. Dennis Savarese made the same suggestion based on experience he's had. I've asked LA-based Ron Lee how often he flies with his shutters closed on his M14P converted CJ. "Often," was the response. ?From June - Sept. in the San Francisco Bay Area , we're flying in +/- 80 degree weather. Thereafter, it's 50s and 60s, and rarely in the low 40s. So, I'm pondering doing without. I wonder if anyone's considered some sort of bolt on baffling for cold weather, like the folks who partial cover their oil cooler intakes during the winter. ...Blitz On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: Ever think of just running without them? Mark Bitterlich P.s. ?Hope this does not open a bag of worms, but it is a do-able thing unless you live in extremely cold weather. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring For our M14P conversion, we're hunting for Yak 52,55 or 18T shutters and ring. Please contact me off-line. Thanks, Blitz 415-307-2405 Sent from my iPhone ========== rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== -- Byron M. Fox 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-307-2405 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:52:09 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring Byron, what prop will you be running on the M14? If a Russian V530, will you be installing a Yak18T spinner? Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Byron Fox To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:07 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring I have considered running without shutters, Mark. Dennis Savarese made the same suggestion based on experience he's had. I've asked LA-based Ron Lee how often he flies with his shutters closed on his M14P converted CJ. "Often," was the response. From June - Sept. in the San Francisco Bay Area , we're flying in +/- 80 degree weather. Thereafter, it's 50s and 60s, and rarely in the low 40s. So, I'm pondering doing without. I wonder if anyone's considered some sort of bolt on baffling for cold weather, like the folks who partial cover their oil cooler intakes during the winter. ...Blitz On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: Point, MALS-14 64E" Ever think of just running without them? Mark Bitterlich P.s. Hope this does not open a bag of worms, but it is a do-able thing unless you live in extremely cold weather. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring For our M14P conversion, we're hunting for Yak 52,55 or 18T shutters and ring. Please contact me off-line. Thanks, Blitz 415-307-2405 Sent from my iPhone ========== rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== -- Byron M. Fox 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-307-2405 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:33 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring From: Byron Fox We'll be running MT's erection-inducing FW 190 replica, Dennis. As my testosterone level declines, I must do something..... On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM, A. Dennis Savarese < dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Byron, what prop will you be running on the M14? If a Russian V530, will > you be installing a Yak18T spinner? > Dennis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Byron Fox > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:07 PM > *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring > > I have considered running without shutters, Mark. Dennis Savarese made the > same suggestion based on experience he's had. I've asked LA-based Ron Lee > how often he flies with his shutters closed on his M14P converted CJ. > "Often," was the response. > From June - Sept. in the San Francisco Bay Area , we're flying in +/- 80 > degree weather. Thereafter, it's 50s and 60s, and rarely in the low 40s. So, > I'm pondering doing without. > I wonder if anyone's considered some sort of bolt on baffling for cold > weather, like the folks who partial cover their oil cooler intakes during > the winter. > > ...Blitz > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, > MALS-14 64E wrote: > >> MALS-14 64E" >> >> Ever think of just running without them? >> >> Mark Bitterlich >> >> P.s. Hope this does not open a bag of worms, but it is a do-able thing >> unless you live in extremely cold weather. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring >> >> >> For our M14P conversion, we're hunting for Yak 52,55 or 18T shutters and >> ring. Please contact me off-line. Thanks, Blitz >> >> 415-307-2405 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Byron M. Fox > 80 Milland Drive > Mill Valley, CA 94941 > 415-307-2405 > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > > -- Byron M. Fox 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-307-2405 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:54 PM PST US From: "Chris Wise" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring G'Day All, We operate a 18T Adelaide South Australia. Same story, the rings and shutters where not so nice. Considering that we do not have the cold Russian Temps we removed them, as did our LAME with his 18. Takes a little bit longer to warm up in the winter before flying, other than that, no problems. Have on occasion closed the oil cooler to warm-up faster, not a great deal of dif. Consider that most other radial engines do not have shutters. i.e.. just about all the aircraft with P&W. So I think that if you are operating in really cold temps, I would run shutters. Cheers, Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: Byron Fox To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:37 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring I have considered running without shutters, Mark. Dennis Savarese made the same suggestion based on experience he's had. I've asked LA-based Ron Lee how often he flies with his shutters closed on his M14P converted CJ. "Often," was the response. From June - Sept. in the San Francisco Bay Area , we're flying in +/- 80 degree weather. Thereafter, it's 50s and 60s, and rarely in the low 40s. So, I'm pondering doing without. I wonder if anyone's considered some sort of bolt on baffling for cold weather, like the folks who partial cover their oil cooler intakes during the winter. ...Blitz On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: Point, MALS-14 64E" Ever think of just running without them? Mark Bitterlich P.s. Hope this does not open a bag of worms, but it is a do-able thing unless you live in extremely cold weather. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring For our M14P conversion, we're hunting for Yak 52,55 or 18T shutters and ring. Please contact me off-line. Thanks, Blitz 415-307-2405 Sent from my iPhone ========== rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== -- Byron M. Fox 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-307-2405 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 05/23/09 07:00:00 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:35 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52/55/18T Shutters & Ring I am trying to find the two rings that position the shutters. I could run the engine without them and at these Florida temps and doing acro they would not be missed at all. However this engine will get too cool during descents from a x county flight at altitude. That is not good for any engine. I try to keep an even temp (160C of the gage) during cruise and when I start down I do close the shutters a little so as not to drop into the red. It does not take much. On the big PW and Wrights, we are very religious about cowl flaps operation. Cracked cylinders from to quick a cool down during descent, is expensive on those engines. And I guarantee you they will crack. Than again some engines can take rapid changes in temps, and the M-14 may very be one of those. However I've always tried to avoid that. If anyone out has shutter parts, I am interested. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.