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Thu 09/24/09


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:29 PM - Re: Remanufacturing Russian Check Valves (Noplugs)
     2. 02:17 PM - Re: Fly Away Covers that fit Yak 50,52 and CJ's (Arthur white)
     3. 04:45 PM - Re: Remanufacturing Russian Check Valves (keithmckinley)
     4. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: Remanufacturing Russian Check Valves (doug sapp)
     5. 06:07 PM - Re: Remanufacturing Russian Check Valves (keithmckinley)
     6. 06:19 PM - Re: Re: Remanufacturing Russian Check Valves (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     7. 07:14 PM - engine mount for yak 55 ()
     8. 08:00 PM - Re: Fly Away Covers that fit Yak 50,52 and CJ's (Roger Kemp M.D.)
     9. 08:51 PM - Re: engine mount for yak 55 (Royden Heays)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:29:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Remanufacturing Russian Check Valves
    From: "Noplugs" <qas44n@yahoo.com>
    What I read was "All the parts in the working inner cavity should be smeared with No.10 Aviation hydraulic fluid or caster oil before assembly". I assume that if it is used for assembly, its used for normal operations. I have not found out what "No.10 Aviation hydraulic fluid" converts to yet. So if anyone knows let me know. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264790#264790


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    Time: 02:17:10 PM PST US
    From: Arthur white <arthur.white@gmail.com>
    Subject: Fly Away Covers that fit Yak 50,52 and CJ's
    Kregg I have Yak 52 based in Europe. How much are the covers? Best regards Arthur -----Original Message----- From: Kregg Victory <kregg@balancemyprop.com> Sent: 24 September 2009 03:29 Subject: Yak-List: Fly Away Covers that fit Yak 50,52 and CJ's I just got in new lightweight travel covers that will fit almost any airplane. Weighs from 2-3.5 lbs and has a carry bag that is about 7"x24". Sizes that Yak 50, 52 and CJ'S. If interested contact me directly [The entire original message is not included]


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    Time: 04:45:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Remanufacturing Russian Check Valves
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    Aircraft Hydraulic Fluid MIL-H-5606 is what I believe, but then again I was trying to get some more info as well. -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264821#264821


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    Time: 05:50:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Remanufacturing Russian Check Valves
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    5606 is great for the shock struts but I would not recommend using it to lube you pneumatic system. Doug On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM, keithmckinley <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>wrote: > keith.mckinley@townisp.com> > > Aircraft Hydraulic Fluid MIL-H-5606 is what I believe, but then again I was > trying to get some more info as well. > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264821#264821 > > -- Douglas Sapp Doug Sapp LLC 18B Riverview Road Omak WA 98841 PH 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 06:07:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Remanufacturing Russian Check Valves
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    What would you recommend to lubricate the system? Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264844#264844


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    Time: 06:19:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Remanufacturing Russian Check Valves
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    FROM THE ARM CHAIR OF Mark Bitterlich: Personally, I am not going to introduce anything into the pneumatic system of my YAK-50. I have heard a lot of stories about squirting this and that into the system to keep this and that from corroding. Anything from "light machine oil" to "pneumatic tool oil" to "hydraulic fluid" (original 5606 and the new synthetic types for example), etc., etc. Maybe 5606 is good... I really do not know. ANYWAY..... I did it. I put pneumatic tool oil into my 50. The next thing I knew I had trouble with the pressure regulation. Turns out that when you get oil on the pop-off valve seal, it does not want to seal as well, and my pressure regulation went from 50 atmos, to about 35 atmos. Next thing I knew, I blew the seals out of the landing gear actuators. That just sucks, and if you have never R&R'ed the landing gear actuators on a YAK-50, let me tell you it is not really a ton of fun. Then there is the matter of finding new seals. Maybe it was because mine were too old to begin with and just needed that to make them go bad. Who knows? I sure do not. Bottom line, I think it is a better idea to pull the landing gear actuators every "so many years" and just replace those seals anyway, and when you have the mess taken apart, have it treated for corrosion, by any method you so choose. My personal opinion is simply that it is much easier to ruin the seals by adding "stuff" into the system than it is to have the darn things corrode to the point of failure. A rebuild every "X" number of years is possibly a better solution. But,... it is very possible I am dead wrong. Regardless, I tried it, and will never do it again. Mark Bitterlich p.s. Adding a tiny amount of lubricant after a total rebuild to allow everything to go together and seat is another story. I'd use a DROP or two of castor oil. If that much. ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of keithmckinley Sent: Thu 9/24/2009 7:44 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Remanufacturing Russian Check Valves Aircraft Hydraulic Fluid MIL-H-5606 is what I believe, but then again I was trying to get some more info as well. -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264821#264821


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    Time: 07:14:28 PM PST US
    From: <tasport@msn.com>
    Subject: engine mount for yak 55
    Hello group, I still need a upper right engine mount from the firewall to the mount ring, thought I had one located but after about a month of waiting the owner decided not to sell it. Thanks in advance for any information or leads, also it currently has a three blade prop but the blades are a little too long as I fly off a rough grass strip and was wondering if anyone had a complete two blade Russian that they wanted to part with. Thank you, Todd.


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    Time: 08:00:11 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Fly Away Covers that fit Yak 50,52 and CJ's
    How much for the YAK 50 cover? Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Arthur white Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:00 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fly Away Covers that fit Yak 50,52 and CJ's Kregg I have Yak 52 based in Europe. How much are the covers? Best regards Arthur -----Original Message----- From: Kregg Victory <kregg@balancemyprop.com> Sent: 24 September 2009 03:29 Subject: Yak-List: Fly Away Covers that fit Yak 50,52 and CJ's I just got in new lightweight travel covers that will fit almost any airplane. Weighs from 2-3.5 lbs and has a carry bag that is about 7"x24". Sizes that Yak 50, 52 and CJ'S. If interested contact me directly [The entire original message is not included]


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    Time: 08:51:28 PM PST US
    From: "Royden Heays" <heaysr@telus.net>
    Subject: engine mount for yak 55
    Do you mean the tube between fire wall and ring or the casting that passes through the fire wall? -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tasport@msn.com Sent: 24 Sep 2009 7:13 PM Subject: Yak-List: engine mount for yak 55 Hello group, I still need a upper right engine mount from the firewall to the mount ring, thought I had one located but after about a month of waiting the owner decided not to sell it. Thanks in advance for any information or leads, also it currently has a three blade prop but the blades are a little too long as I fly off a rough grass strip and was wondering if anyone had a complete two blade Russian that they wanted to part with. Thank you, Todd.




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