Yak-List Digest Archive

Mon 10/12/09


Total Messages Posted: 19



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     1. 02:13 AM - Prop balade securing bolts (Chris Wise)
     2. 05:21 AM - Re: Prop balade securing bolts (T A LEWIS)
     3. 05:22 AM - Looking for Yak flight training (A. Dennis Savarese)
     4. 06:24 AM - Re: Looking for Yak flight training (Roger Kemp M.D.)
     5. 06:55 AM - Re: Looking for Yak flight training (Michael Wikstrom)
     6. 07:19 AM - Re: Prop inspection (Rich Langer)
     7. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: Prop inspection (A. Dennis Savarese)
     8. 09:13 AM - Yak rudder pedals (Barry Hancock)
     9. 10:15 AM - Re: Prop balade securing bolts (Walter Lannon)
    10. 10:25 AM - Re: Prop balade securing bolts (T A LEWIS)
    11. 01:39 PM - Re: Prop balade securing bolts (Chris Wise)
    12. 01:45 PM - ultrasonic leak detectors (Rich Langer)
    13. 02:41 PM - Re: ultrasonic leak detectors (doug sapp)
    14. 02:52 PM - Re: ultrasonic leak detectors (Jon Boede)
    15. 03:08 PM - Re: ultrasonic leak detectors (doug sapp)
    16. 04:40 PM - Re: Blue Mountain Updates (Bill VonDane / Whiskey Victor)
    17. 06:42 PM - Re: New Digital Tach from Flight Data Systems (Craig Winkelmann)
    18. 07:41 PM - Re: ultrasonic leak detectors (Roger Kemp M.D.)
    19. 07:44 PM - Smoke Systems (Genzlinger, Reade)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:13:47 AM PST US
    From: "Chris Wise" <wise@txc.net.au>
    Subject: Prop balade securing bolts
    G'Day All, Can someone please advise soonest what the torque is to tighten the securing nut and bolt that secures the prop blades Painted the prop and balanced. Blade angle was out by 1% and loosened the securing nut and bolt to set angles. Please advise soonest as airsow this weekend. Thanks and cheers, Chris.


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    Time: 05:21:29 AM PST US
    From: T A LEWIS <talew@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Prop balade securing bolts
    If it is for a CJ my notes say 80 foot lbs.-=0ATerry Lewis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________=0AFrom: Chris Wise <wise@txc.net.au>=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, October 12, 2009 5:12:12 AM=0ASubje ct: Yak-List: Prop balade securing bolts=0A=0A=0AG'Day All,- =0A-=0ACan someone please advise soonest what the torque is to tighten the securing n ut and bolt that secures the prop blades=0APainted the prop and balanced. B lade angle was out by 1% and loosened the securing nut and bolt to set angl es.=0A-=0APlease advise soonest as airsow this weekend.=0A-=0AThanks an =====================


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    Time: 05:22:23 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Looking for Yak flight training
    I received the email below. If anyone can help this gentleman, please reply directly to him. His email is captlarryv@aol.com Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: CaptLarryV@aol.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: (no subject) Dennis, Are there any flight schools or operators that offer flights in the Yak in southern california? thanks Larry Cranmer


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    Time: 06:24:42 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Looking for Yak flight training
    Bdogg, This should be up your alley. doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:22 AM Subject: Yak-List: Looking for Yak flight training I received the email below. If anyone can help this gentleman, please reply directly to him. His email is captlarryv@aol.com Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: CaptLarryV@aol.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: (no subject) Dennis, Are there any flight schools or operators that offer flights in the Yak in southern california? thanks Larry Cranmer


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    Time: 06:55:22 AM PST US
    From: "Michael Wikstrom" <michael@wikstrom.cc>
    Subject: Looking for Yak flight training
    Hi All I have the same question, but for northern California, Bay Area. I'm from Nice, France, but will be spending some time in the Oakland/Alameda area from Dec17-Jan6. I have my own Yak18T with about 500 hours but would like to do some flying while in the US, YAK52or Yak18T for example Please reply directly to Michael Wikstrom, email is Michael@wikstrom.cc Thanks From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese Sent: 12 October 2009 14:22 Subject: Yak-List: Looking for Yak flight training I received the email below. If anyone can help this gentleman, please reply directly to him. His email is captlarryv@aol.com Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: CaptLarryV@aol.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: (no subject) Dennis, Are there any flight schools or operators that offer flights in the Yak in southern california? thanks Larry Cranmer


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    Time: 07:19:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prop inspection
    From: "Rich Langer" <rlanger2@COMCAST.NET>
    Dennis: Is the CJ's Housai prop inspection the same as the Yak-52? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267569#267569


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    Time: 07:27:16 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Prop inspection
    Pretty much the same thing. FWIW, the seals in the CJ hub are identical to the seals in the Yak 52/Yak 18T prop hub (V530). Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Langer To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:19 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Prop inspection Dennis: Is the CJ's Housai prop inspection the same as the Yak-52? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267569#267569


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    Time: 09:13:00 AM PST US
    From: Barry Hancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
    Subject: Yak rudder pedals
    Gang, For those of you waiting to hear more about the Yak-52 installation of our rudder pedal brackets...here's another testimonial...unedited. ++++ Flew my 52 this weekend with the new rudder mod installed. All I can tell you is WOW what a difference. I know have much more leg room. That was money and time well spent. I would be glad to testify about all aspects of the mod. I only have one clearance issue. This is causing my big left foot to hit something on the firewall when depressing full left rudder. I will retrain my foot position on the pedal. This will fix this issue. You might look into sending the other 2 replacement bolt/nuts in the mod. Mine were so badly gaulded in the hole that we had hell removing them. I had to find replacement nuts (borrowed from the life flight people on the field). It would have been great had I already had replacement bolts for those too. I would rate this mod very good over all! Keep up the good work. Edwin C. ++++ Per Edwin's advice, we will now be sending both the AN bolts for the rear and the metric bolts for the front in our kits. Price is $250/set. Please contact me directly for more information or to order. Thanks, Barry Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. (909) 606-4444


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    Time: 10:15:33 AM PST US
    From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>
    Subject: Re: Prop balade securing bolts
    Chris/Terry Recommended torque for the blade clamp bolt (J9G1 or V530) is 57 to 63 Lb/Ft. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: T A LEWIS To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 5:17 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Prop balade securing bolts If it is for a CJ my notes say 80 foot lbs. Terry Lewis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Chris Wise <wise@txc.net.au> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 5:12:12 AM Subject: Yak-List: Prop balade securing bolts G'Day All, Can someone please advise soonest what the torque is to tighten the securing nut and bolt that secures the prop blades Painted the prop and balanced. Blade angle was out by 1% and loosened the securing nut and bolt to set angles. Please advise soonest as airsow this weekend. Thanks and cheers, Chris.


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    Time: 10:25:54 AM PST US
    From: T A LEWIS <talew@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Prop balade securing bolts
    Thanks Walt.=0ATerry=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mo nday, October 12, 2009 1:13:12 PM=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: Prop balade secu ring bolts=0A=0A=0AChris/Terry=0A-=0ARecommended torque for the blade cla mp bolt (J9G1 or V530) is 57 to 63-Lb/Ft.=0A=0AWalt-=0A----- Original M essage ----- =0A>From: T A LEWIS =0A>To: yak-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: M onday, October 12, 2009 5:17 AM=0A>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Prop balade secur ing bolts=0A>=0A>=0A>If it is for a CJ my notes say 80 foot lbs.-=0A>Terr y Lewis=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Chris Wi se <wise@txc.net.au>=0A>To: yak-list@matronics.com=0A>Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 5:12:12 AM=0A>Subject: Yak-List: Prop balade securing bolts=0A> =0A>=0A>G'Day All,- =0A>-=0A>Can someone please advise soonest what the torque is to tighten the securing nut and bolt that secures the prop blade s=0A>Painted the prop and balanced. Blade angle was out by 1% and loosened the securing nut and bolt to set angles.=0A>-=0A>Please advise soonest as airsow this weekend.=0A>-=0A>Thanks and cheers,=0A>Chris.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A >=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>


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    Time: 01:39:29 PM PST US
    From: "Chris Wise" <wise@txc.net.au>
    Subject: Re: Prop balade securing bolts
    G'Day Walt, Thank's for that. Have many manuals, a lot in Russian with many drawings etc and could not find the torque settings for prop clamps. Will probably look for something else today and the settings will jump out of the page. Cheers, Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: Walter Lannon To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 3:43 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Prop balade securing bolts Chris/Terry Recommended torque for the blade clamp bolt (J9G1 or V530) is 57 to 63 Lb/Ft. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: T A LEWIS To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 5:17 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Prop balade securing bolts If it is for a CJ my notes say 80 foot lbs. Terry Lewis ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: Chris Wise <wise@txc.net.au> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 5:12:12 AM Subject: Yak-List: Prop balade securing bolts G'Day All, Can someone please advise soonest what the torque is to tighten the securing nut and bolt that secures the prop blades Painted the prop and balanced. Blade angle was out by 1% and loosened the securing nut and bolt to set angles. Please advise soonest as airsow this weekend. Thanks and cheers, Chris. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 05/23/09 07:00:00


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    Time: 01:45:37 PM PST US
    Subject: ultrasonic leak detectors
    From: "Rich Langer" <rlanger2@COMCAST.NET>
    Does anyone on the list use an ultrasonic leak detector for finding vacuum leaks and, if so, do you recommend a certain brand or model? I have a small leak I can not find . Thanks Rich Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267625#267625


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    Time: 02:41:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: ultrasonic leak detectors
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Rich,I use Amprobe, but what ever type you get make sure it comes with a head set. bought mine on Ebay for about $150.00. Food for thought: Recently my old enough to vote refer in the house died. It was discovered to have a tiny leak in the condenser coil. A weeks delivery time and $600.00 later we again had cold beer and all was good. During the $85.00 per hour house call to diagnose it's problem I watched the tech (at 85.00 per you can call yourself a tech!) pressurize the system then take a "squealer" type sniffer and sniff out the problem, when it got within a foot of the leak it started to make a soft churp, as we got closer it began to screech. Just for fun I went to the shop and got my Ultrasonic unit. I could not detect the leak. Rather I could have detected it @ 45 atms pressure I don't know, but I was pretty impressed. I described our trials and tribulations with the Yaks and CJs and he indicated that it would work very well to find even the smallest leaks which would not be audible even with the ultrasonic detector. I am in the process of building up a filler attachment to use to add the refrigerant gas to the pneumatic system. Doug On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Rich Langer <rlanger2@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Does anyone on the list use an ultrasonic leak detector for finding vacuum > leaks and, if so, do you recommend a certain brand or model? I have a small > leak I can not find . Thanks > Rich > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267625#267625 > > -- Douglas Sapp Doug Sapp LLC 18B Riverview Road Omak WA 98841 PH 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 02:52:49 PM PST US
    From: Jon Boede <jonboede@hotmail.com>
    Subject: ultrasonic leak detectors
    I looked into this. My observation was that the freon that you can get from the auto parts stor e goes liquid at hardly any pressure. I was trying to find a flavor of fre on that could be run up to higher working pressures but the government make s it necessary to have a license to handle just about any of it. Jon Subject: Re: Yak-List: ultrasonic leak detectors From: dougsappllc@gmail.com Rich=2CI use Amprobe=2C but what ever type you get make sure it comes with a head set. bought mine on Ebay for about $150.00. Food for thought:Recently my old enough to vote refer in the house died. I t was discovered to have a tiny leak in the condenser coil. A weeks delive ry time and $600.00 later we again had cold beer and all was good. During the $85.00 per hour house call to diagnose it's problem I watched the tech (at 85.00 per you can call yourself a tech!) pressurize the system then tak e a "squealer" type sniffer and sniff out the problem=2C when it got within a foot of the leak it started to make a soft churp=2C as we got closer it began to screech. Just for fun I went to the shop and got my Ultrasonic un it. I could not detect the leak. Rather I could have detected it @ 45 atm s pressure I don't know=2C but I was pretty impressed. I described our tri als and tribulations with the Yaks and CJs and he indicated that it would w ork very well to find even the smallest leaks which would not be audible ev en with the ultrasonic detector. I am in the process of building up a fill er attachment to use to add the refrigerant gas to the pneumatic system. Doug On Mon=2C Oct 12=2C 2009 at 1:45 PM=2C Rich Langer <rlanger2@comcast.net> w rote: Does anyone on the list use an ultrasonic leak detector for finding vacuum leaks and=2C if so=2C do you recommend a certain brand or model? I have a s mall leak I can not find . Thanks Rich Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267625#267625 rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com le=2C List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Douglas Sapp Doug Sapp LLC 18B Riverview Road Omak WA 98841 PH 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 03:08:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: ultrasonic leak detectors
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Hmmmm always something. Doug On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Jon Boede <jonboede@hotmail.com> wrote: > I looked into this. > > My observation was that the freon that you can get from the auto parts > store goes liquid at hardly any pressure. I was trying to find a flavor of > freon that could be run up to higher working pressures but the government > makes it necessary to have a license to handle just about any of it. > > Jon > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:40:10 -0700 > Subject: Re: Yak-List: ultrasonic leak detectors > From: dougsappllc@gmail.com > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Rich,I use Amprobe, but what ever type you get make sure it comes with a > head set. bought mine on Ebay for about $150.00. > > Food for thought: > Recently my old enough to vote refer in the house died. It was discovered > to have a tiny leak in the condenser coil. A weeks delivery time and > $600.00 later we again had cold beer and all was good. During the $85.00 > per hour house call to diagnose it's problem I watched the tech (at 85.00 > per you can call yourself a tech!) pressurize the system then take a > "squealer" type sniffer and sniff out the problem, when it got within a foot > of the leak it started to make a soft churp, as we got closer it began to > screech. Just for fun I went to the shop and got my Ultrasonic unit. I > could not detect the leak. Rather I could have detected it @ 45 atms > pressure I don't know, but I was pretty impressed. I described our trials > and tribulations with the Yaks and CJs and he indicated that it would work > very well to find even the smallest leaks which would not be audible even > with the ultrasonic detector. I am in the process of building up a filler > attachment to use to add the refrigerant gas to the pneumatic system. > > Doug > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Rich Langer <rlanger2@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Does anyone on the list use an ultrasonic leak detector for finding vacuum > leaks and, if so, do you recommend a certain brand or model? I have a small > leak I can not find . Thanks > Rich > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267625#267625 > > > ========== > rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > -- > Douglas Sapp > Doug Sapp LLC > 18B Riverview Road > Omak WA 98841 > PH 509-826-4610 > Fax 509-826-3644 > > * > > tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-Listonics.comww.matronics.com/contribution > * > > * > > * > > -- Douglas Sapp Doug Sapp LLC 18B Riverview Road Omak WA 98841 PH 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 04:40:58 PM PST US
    From: "Bill VonDane / Whiskey Victor" <bill.mail@whiskeyvictor.com>
    Subject: Re: Blue Mountain Updates
    I would also like to let you all know that I have experience with YAK 52 panels and electrical systems upgrades, and would love to do some CJs as well... If you're wanting to have some panels and/or avionics and electrical systems upgrades done give me a call! -Bill VonDane www.whiskeyvictor.com 719-510-0854 From:"Bill VonDane / Whiskey Victor" <bill.mail(at)whiskeyvictor.com> Date:Oct 07, 2009 Subject:Re: Blue Mountain Updates Dynon's new SkyView products are going to set the bar up a few notches... http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/news_technology_preview.html -Bill VonDane www.whiskeyvictor.com On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Tom Elliott wrote: > > The Advance Flight Systems units are good units. they also interface with > the trutrac A/P's, hard wired as well > as serial radios, transponders, GPS's. Synthetic vision and many other > features. Voice annunciation for all Eng > parameters as well as flight info ( Nav status ) and others. It is reported > that they will have 10 + inch > screen out after the first of the year. As big as the Blue MT. Large > screen. > > www.advanced-flight-systems.com > > Tom Elliott > CJ-6A NX63727 > 702-595-2680 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Warren Hill > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:30 AM > To: yak-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Blue Mountain Updates > > > Larry, > > I think that Dynon and Grand Rapids will be the two left standing at the > end > of the day for experimental aircraft. > > http://www.dynonavionics.com/ > > http://www.grtavionics.com/product.aspx?productno=1 > > Very nice products. > > Warren Hill > Mesa, AZ > > > On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Larry Pine wrote: > > > Good thing I bought one update the day they said they were closing the > > doors. I had a feeling that was going to happen. > > > > Larry Pine > > > > > > --- On Wed, 10/7/09, N395V wrote: > > > > From: N395V > > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Blue Mountain Updates > > To: yak-list(at)matronics.com > > Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 5:33 AM > > > > > > No one has been able to get updates in spite of the fact that greg > > says he is working on it. > > > > -------- > > Milt > > 2003 F1 Rocket > > 2006 Radial Rocket > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=266923#//www.matronics.com/Navig > ator?Yak-List > > " target=_blank>http://www.matronicp; -Matt > > Draronics.com/contribution" ===== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:42:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: New Digital Tach from Flight Data Systems
    From: "Craig Winkelmann" <capav8r@gmail.com>
    As these tachs are driven by the p-lead (not by a signal from our tach gens), I see no reason why you'd have a problem with two (one front, one back). Use shielded wire and make sure you have shield continuity with the p-lead shield and keep any exposure of the unshielded wire (when making connections) as short as possible. The p-lead signal is full of high frequency components which will cause noise unless shielded. Also, note the company spokesperson I talked to said one was in TEST on a Wilga (M-14P, or as he said...."one of those Russian engines."). He was not sure if the current model will work with a radial. He did say the company was committed to making a model that would work for radials. It is usually a programming issue to resolve the number of pulses per revolution. Most manufacturers only plan on engines with an even number of cylinders (how dare they!). Craig W. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267684#267684


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    Time: 07:41:20 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: ultrasonic leak detectors
    Check with Dennis Savarese. He uses one on occasion. Doc Kemp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rich Langer Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:45 PM Subject: Yak-List: ultrasonic leak detectors Does anyone on the list use an ultrasonic leak detector for finding vacuum leaks and, if so, do you recommend a certain brand or model? I have a small leak I can not find . Thanks Rich Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267625#267625


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    Subject: Smoke Systems
    From: "Genzlinger, Reade" <ReadeG@Cairnwood.com>
    Anyone have the Termikas fabricated smoke system installed? I am flying a 52TD with their system and it works quite well. I have no documentation, however (capacity - which I have figured pretty close, type of pump, pressures, etc.). Any information would be greatly appreciated. BTW - it is plumbed into both stacks and makes lots of smoke - a good portion of which ends up in the cockpit. I am gap sealing everything imaginable! Reade Genzlinger Cairnwood Cooperative Corporation mailto:readeg@cairnwood.com 215.914.0370




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