---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/19/09: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:12 AM - Re: Throttle (Jan Mevis) 2. 04:43 AM - Re: (A. Dennis Savarese) 3. 04:43 AM - Re: (A. Dennis Savarese) 4. 04:53 AM - Re: CO (A. Dennis Savarese) 5. 06:07 AM - Carb Icing (Re: Throttle) (A. Dennis Savarese) 6. 06:54 AM - new operating limitations (Kelley Monroe) 7. 07:13 AM - Re: new operating limitations (A. Dennis Savarese) 8. 09:19 AM - Re: Throttle (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E) 9. 09:19 AM - M14P Jet Mod (Larry Pine) 10. 09:42 AM - M14P Jet Mod (Larry Pine) 11. 10:07 AM - riveting, bolting, question? (keithmckinley) 12. 10:11 AM - CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project (keithmckinley) 13. 10:42 AM - Re: new operating limitations (Warren Hill) 14. 10:42 AM - (delfin) 15. 10:43 AM - Re: M14P Jet Mod (A. Dennis Savarese) 16. 11:10 AM - Re: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project (vectorwarbirds@aol.com) 17. 11:45 AM - Recall: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project (Rieder, David A (AZ76)) 18. 11:46 AM - Re: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project (Rieder, David A (AZ76)) 19. 12:24 PM - Re: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project (Larry Pine) 20. 01:36 PM - Re: M14P Jet Mod (Scott Poehlmann) 21. 02:00 PM - Re: new operating limitations (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E) 22. 02:14 PM - engine shutter vane adjustment (keithmckinley) 23. 03:09 PM - Digital Tach Update (Craig Winkelmann) 24. 04:42 PM - Re: riveting, bolting, question? (doug sapp) 25. 05:18 PM - Re: riveting, bolting, question? (keithmckinley) 26. 06:41 PM - Re: Re: riveting, bolting, question? (T A LEWIS) 27. 07:03 PM - Re: Yak tailwheel adapters (finished) (racemech11) 28. 08:08 PM - Re: M14P Jet Mod (cjpilot710@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:45 AM PST US From: "Jan Mevis" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Throttle I also am inclined to think that it was carburettor icing. The block of ice in the carburettor could jam the throttle. Carburettor icing can happen quite often here in Northern Europe, when the weather is very moist and temperatures around 5 degrees centigrades. We don't have the problem when it's really freezing, of course. Jan From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith Pickford Sent: maandag 19 oktober 2009 0:06 Subject: Re: Yak-List: Throttle Hi Didier We have struck the same thing here in New Zealand during our cooler weather when after landing the throttle will not move. This can happen when the carb inlet temp is below 3' . I have struck it several times and after closing the carb inlet it cures the problem almost immediately. Often on cold days I will set it at about half position, If the inlet temp is kept above 3" it does not stick. Have only ever had it happen either on short finals or after landing. Regards Keith Yak 52 --- On Mon, 19/10/09, Didier Blouzard wrote: From: Didier Blouzard Subject: Re: Yak-List: Throttle Received: Monday, 19 October, 2009, 10:06 AM Mark, I must say that the thing that happened seems more mechanical than ice. But I will examine all possibilities. The only thing I know is that I did not dreamed the problem. I was with a friend owner of a 52. He is a comercial pilot. And both of us could see that the motor did not want to go under 50% even if I pushed hard on the throtle lever. We even tried to check the pitch (going to coarse and back to fine)... After turning off the motor and refueling. At the next start everything came back to normal. But I did not tried the carb heat (was off) and I did not looked closely to the throtle lever. Was it completely down or was it blocked I am not sure. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:32 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Yak-List: Re: Try this. http://cgi.ebay.com/PO-1-Soviet-Aviation-Flight-Googles-Leather-Helmet_W0 QQitemZ400079880225QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5d269 e8021 Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: delfin To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:32 PM Does anyone know what helmet and mic are original military equipment for the Yak-52. Im looking for the Russian used helmet for this aircraft that mated to the Baklan 5 thanks Delfin_driver ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:33 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Yak-List: Re: http://cgi.ebay.com/PO-1-Soviet-Flight-Googles-Leather-Helmet-Km-32-Mask_ W0QQitemZ160370820188QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item255 6d8845c This one has the throat mic. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: delfin To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:32 PM Does anyone know what helmet and mic are original military equipment for the Yak-52. Im looking for the Russian used helmet for this aircraft that mated to the Baklan 5 thanks Delfin_driver ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:05 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: CO Many of the Yak 52's do not have flap rod covers inside the cockpit. All 52's originally had the same type covers the Yak 52W and TW have. These openings inside the fuselage are a prime location for air leaks and of course CO as well. You can help eliminate the cold air billowing into the rear cockpit and some of the CO too by making a soft cover to slide over the horizontal flap rods and affixing the soft cover to the inside of the fuselage. Use a scrap piece of leather or soft vinyl and cut out a "patch" that will fit over the opening on the inside of the fuselage. Cut a slot on one end of the patch so it will slide over the flap rod. Then cut a "star" pattern where the flap rod slides through the patch. Glue the patch to the inside of the fuselage with contact cement. It's not perfect, but it sure does reduce the cold air tremendously and I'm sure it also helps to reduce the CO in the cockpit. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: bob To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: Yak-List: CO FWIW; The thread on smoke got my curiosity up so when the chance to fly came up today I took a pocket CO meter along. On the ground, canopy closed 14 ppm, flying w/ canopy closed "0". Then to change the airflow I did some mostly positive acro ( loops & cubans) and it went up to 22 ppm. These are lower than I remember but some time back we put a metal FOD cover in the tail which would block a lot of the airflow out of the tail. That probably helped keep the CO out. With the ram air ventilation of the Yak, closing the open space on the TOP of the elevator bell crank might do more to obtain positive cabin pressure than trying to seal cockpit leaks. I am not aware of anyone that has done this. bob 52BN ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:50 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Carb Icing (Re: Yak-List: Throttle) In the September issue of Sport Aviation (EAA magazine) there was an excellent article on page 80 titled "Carburetor Icing Prevention; Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin". It was written by Peter L. Rouse, Aerospace Engineer, of the FAA's Special Airplane Directorate. In the article there is a graph which shows the probability of carb icing for various temperatures and relative humidity conditions. What stands out is the very small area in the graph where a pressure type carburetor is "susceptible" to icing. The article says: To recognize carburetor icing, the warning signs are; - A drop in rpm in fixed-pitch propeller airplanes - A drop in manifold pressure in constant-speed propeller airplanes - In both types, usually there will be rough engine operation If you don't have a copy of the magazine, do try to get it or at least have someone copy the article for you. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Mevis To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 2:07 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Throttle I also am inclined to think that it was carburettor icing. The block of ice in the carburettor could jam the throttle. Carburettor icing can happen quite often here in Northern Europe, when the weather is very moist and temperatures around 5 degrees centigrades. We don=92t have the problem when it=92s really freezing, of course. Jan From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith Pickford Sent: maandag 19 oktober 2009 0:06 To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Throttle Hi Didier We have struck the same thing here in New Zealand during our cooler weather when after landing the throttle will not move. This can happen when the carb inlet temp is below 3' . I have struck it several times and after closing the carb inlet it cures the problem almost immediately. Often on cold days I will set it at about half position, If the inlet temp is kept above 3" it does not stick. Have only ever had it happen either on short finals or after landing. Regards Keith Yak 52 --- On Mon, 19/10/09, Didier Blouzard wrote: From: Didier Blouzard Subject: Re: Yak-List: Throttle To: yak-list@matronics.com Received: Monday, 19 October, 2009, 10:06 AM Mark, I must say that the thing that happened seems more mechanical than ice. But I will examine all possibilities. The only thing I know is that I did not dreamed the problem. I was with a friend owner of a 52. He is a comercial pilot. And both of us could see that the motor did not want to go under 50% even if I pushed hard on the throtle lever. We even tried to check the pitch (going to coarse and back to fine)... After turning off the motor and refueling. At the next start everything came back to normal. But I did not tried the carb heat (was off) and I did not looked closely to the throtle lever. Was it completely down or was it blocked I am not sure. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhtt p://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:47 AM PST US From: "Kelley Monroe" Subject: Yak-List: new operating limitations I have just purchased a CJ with 10 year old operating limitations. I want to get the new limitation and go to the FAA with them to get the home base moved and a new airworthy certificate. Can some one lead me to these? Thanks Kelley ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:44 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: new operating limitations First you will need the new, hard copy registration showing the new, registered owner. Next, complete the FAA Form 8130-6 which you can download. Make a copy of the new registration. Then send the copy of the new registration, your old Special Airworthiness Certificate, a copy of your engine and airplane log books showing the current annual condition inspection sign-offs and an annual Schedule of Events (Program letter) and mail it to your local FSDO telling them you recently purchased this aircraft and would like to have issued the new Special Airworthiness Certificate and new Operating Limitations. It might be a good idea to call the local FSDO first and talk with an Inspector who is familiar with issuing new OL's and Special Airworthiness Certificates for Experimental Exhibition Group III, under 800 horsepower airplanes. Call me if you need help. Dennis 334-285-2141 334-546-8182 (mobile) ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelley Monroe To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:51 AM Subject: Yak-List: new operating limitations I have just purchased a CJ with 10 year old operating limitations. I want to get the new limitation and go to the FAA with them to get the home base moved and a new airworthy certificate. Can some one lead me to these? Thanks Kelley ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:24 AM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Throttle From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" On the YAK-52 Keith? Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith Pickford Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 15:06 Subject: Re: Yak-List: Throttle Hi Didier We have struck the same thing here in New Zealand during our cooler weather when after landing the throttle will not move. This can happen when the carb inlet temp is below 3' . I have struck it several times and after closing the carb inlet it cures the problem almost immediately. Often on cold days I will set it at about half position, If the inlet temp is kept above 3" it does not stick. Have only ever had it happen either on short finals or after landing. Regards Keith Yak 52 --- On Mon, 19/10/09, Didier Blouzard wrote: From: Didier Blouzard Subject: Re: Yak-List: Throttle To: yak-list@matronics.com Received: Monday, 19 October, 2009, 10:06 AM Mark, I must say that the thing that happened seems more mechanical than ice. But I will examine all possibilities. The only thing I know is that I did not dreamed the problem. I was with a friend owner of a 52. He is a comercial pilot. And both of us could see that the motor did not want to go under 50% even if I pushed hard on the throtle lever. We even tried to check the pitch (going to coarse and back to fine)... After turning off the motor and refueling. At the next start everything came back to normal. But I did not tried the carb heat (was off) and I did not looked closely to the throtle lever. Was it completely down or was it blocked I am not sure. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:25 AM PST US From: Larry Pine Subject: Yak-List: M14P Jet Mod Just seeing what the consensus is..- Has anyone performed the jet mod on the M14 as described in this attachment?- If so what are your results?- Any concerns? Thanks in advance. N8181C Larry Pine =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:42:24 AM PST US From: Larry Pine Subject: Yak-List: M14P Jet Mod Just seeing what the consensus is..- Has anyone performed the jet mod on the M14 as described?- This is the mod that is to help eliminate throttle advance stumple.- If so what are your results?- Any concerns? Thanks in advance. N8181C Larry Pine =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:07:33 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: riveting, bolting, question? From: "keithmckinley" I would like to remove the pull out this tray and put in another u channel cross brace so that I can skin the whole section with a sheet of aluminum rather that just the slide out tray. I will mount a smoke tank as well as the battery and one inverter (the other is coming out) The sheet will only go as far as the current brace in the fore ground so that I don't impede access to my air tank. Thoughts on the pitfalls of this plan. Also would it be OK to pop rivet the new u channel with the L-brackets or should I use screws. Same question for the sheet aluminum base. I'm afraid I have only done pop riveting. -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268558#268558 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_037_423.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_037_105.jpg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:11:59 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project From: "keithmckinley" How many of you have removed the wobble pump and put in an electric? Those who have are you using that Facet pump? Is it worth the trouble? -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268559#268559 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:42:11 AM PST US From: Warren Hill Subject: Re: Yak-List: new operating limitations Kelly, Just went through this process with our local FSDO, culminating with an inspection at my hanger last Thursday. The steps are just as Dennis outlined. I would emphasize that you need to contact your local FSDO early and work with them. There have been some changes in the limitations they'll assign compared to what they were doing several years ago, so expect your new limitations to be different. Our FSDO assigns airworthiness inspectors to individual aircraft, so there has always one person that I have been working with. Overall, a very pleasant process and I found my inspector to be quite helpful. You may also want to write to Oklahoma City and ask to have copies of everything that they have on your aircraft. There is a minimal fee for this and it is a routine practice. This may allow you some additional insights into your purchase. Best, Warren Hill Mesa, AZ On Oct 19, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Kelley Monroe wrote: > I have just purchased a CJ with 10 year old operating limitations. > I want to get the new limitation and go to the FAA with them to get > the home base moved and a new airworthy certificate. Can some one > lead me to these? Thanks Kelley > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:42:35 AM PST US From: delfin - I am looking for a source to repair the- DA-30K VSI and also to rescreen in feet . As an altnernative will buy a new one if source can be found. - I am still looking for information on the Russian used headset and mic for the YAK-52.- I have tried the Russian throat mikes used with the ZSH-3 he lmet and not good sound.- The impedance on the Baklan 5 appears to be sam e as western civilian radios, not like the Russian- Mig, L29 etc.- - Also,-- anyone has any dealing with the Russian S4U- chutt for Yak 52 ?- Looking for original- YAK tow bar used with tug. Shown in- GSE- catal og.- thanks - - Email: delfin_driver@yahoo.com -=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:43:40 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14P Jet Mod Although I have used this "fix" on several M14 carburetors, Termikas has found an even better solution. The problem has always been the accelerator pump jet diameter being too large, including even the smallest jet which is .9 mm. What Termikas has found out (and I have done this on my engine) is to remove the jet in the accelerator pump at the TOP of the chamber just above the one shown in .pdf file pictures. See attached. The jet at the top is always .6 mm and it seems that placing the larger jet at the top of the accelerator pump does not have any negative operational results. It does remove the hesitation and the accelerator pump remains in full operation. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Pine To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:41 AM Subject: Yak-List: M14P Jet Mod Just seeing what the consensus is.. Has anyone performed the jet mod on the M14 as described in this attachment? If so what are your results? Any concerns? Thanks in advance. N8181C Larry Pine ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:10:24 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project From: vectorwarbirds@aol.com I have replaced the wobble pump and primer with the big Facet pump, don't use the little solid state pump. The bigger one has a filter and is just better. The best thing it does is it gets all the fuel out of the cockpi t. And you can just use a button to control the primer when starting. No more Chinese fire drill with the primer. Its one of the best mods I have done and pretty easy. You can also as I did tie it in for an aux fuel pu mp in case the mechanical goes Tango Uniform. Good luck! Bunndini -----Original Message----- From: keithmckinley Sent: Mon, Oct 19, 2009 10:11 am Subject: Yak-List: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project m> How many of you have removed the wobble pump and put in an electric? Those who ave are you using that Facet pump? Is it worth the trouble? -------- eith McKinley 00HS FIT ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268559#268559 ======================== =========== -= - The Yak-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:45:59 AM PST US Subject: Recall: Yak-List: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project From: "Rieder, David A (AZ76)" Rieder, David A (AZ76) would like to recall the message, "Yak-List: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project". ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:00 AM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project From: "Rieder, David A (AZ76)" Hey ! I was in Canbada most of lst week - just got back Sat. night . Whats the goop on Holloman? From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of vectorwarbirds@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project I have replaced the wobble pump and primer with the big Facet pump, don't use the little solid state pump. The bigger one has a filter and is just better. The best thing it does is it gets all the fuel out of the cockpit. And you can just use a button to control the primer when starting. No more Chinese fire drill with the primer. Its one of the best mods I have done and pretty easy. You can also as I did tie it in for an aux fuel pump in case the mechanical goes Tango Uniform. Good luck! Bunndini -----Original Message----- From: keithmckinley Sent: Mon, Oct 19, 2009 10:11 am Subject: Yak-List: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project How many of you have removed the wobble pump and put in an electric? Those who have are you using that Facet pump? Is it worth the trouble? -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268559#268559 get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:24:58 PM PST US From: Larry Pine Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project I have and love it.- No more wobbling, priming and starting is easier. In case of a pump failure, with a flick of a switch, I have fuel and can conc entrate on flying the plane. Great mod if done properly.- Need-correct hose size, pump with correct flow rate and if using it to prime, check valv es or diverter valve. Larry Pine --- On Mon, 10/19/09, keithmckinley wrote: From: keithmckinley Subject: Yak-List: CJ electric fuel pump? Winter project > How many of you have removed the wobble pump and put in an electric? Those who have are you using that Facet pump? Is it worth the trouble? -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268559#268559 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:36:59 PM PST US From: Scott Poehlmann Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14P Jet Mod Yes. Did this mod on my former SU-29 and my current Yak 55M. Does a great deal to reduce "stumbling" if power needs to be abruptly increased, and seems to reduce loading up while taxiing also, although that is much less pronounced. I've been very happy with this mod. Scott Larry Pine wrote: > > Just seeing what the consensus is.. Has anyone performed the jet mod > on the M14 as described in this attachment? If so what are your > results? Any concerns? > Thanks in advance. > N8181C > /Larry Pine/ > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:00:46 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: new operating limitations From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" Concur with Dennis in every way. Just my 2 cents: I just went through this myself on a UTVA-66. One thing I learned was to try to know more than the FAA about the subject. Not in a "know it all" attempt,..... but so that when they added NEW material to the old Operating Limitations, I could nicely ask them: "Sir, isn't it wrong to add more to the Operating Limitations than were on the older existing ones?" By the way ... They are NOT supposed to do that! What they had done was to change the WORDING of the new Operating Limitations to put them in line with a new FAA directive that requires them to be listed in a different order. They knew all about that, but required me to submit to THEM the material that allows the removal of the 300 mile limitation. It is very clear that a new aircraft inspection is NOT required. However, some FSDO's seem to want to do that. I wouldn't make an issue out of that, but you could if you really wanted to. That aside, the new limitations that they issue should only be REWORDED and in NO WAY MORE RESTRICTIVE! This is important to understand, because if you ACCEPT new limitations that have wording that ADDS further restrictions, it is much harder to get them off later. MUCH harder. As an example, my FSDO added wording that said: "NO NIGHT FLYING", instead of "NO NIGHT FLYING UNLESS PROPERLY EQUIPPED". Along with about four other little "pen and ink" errors that could have really added up to a disaster for me had I not caught them! Compare the old Op-Limits to the NEW Op-Limits... Word for word. CAREFULLY. If they have ADDED new limitations, you must REFUSE to accept them. Politely of course. Also make darn sure that the DATE on the Operating Limitations and your Special Airworthiness Certificate MATCH~! Someone else posted a notice on that earlier and it happened to me as well. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Warren Hill Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:26 Subject: Re: Yak-List: new operating limitations Kelly, Just went through this process with our local FSDO, culminating with an inspection at my hanger last Thursday. The steps are just as Dennis outlined. I would emphasize that you need to contact your local FSDO early and work with them. There have been some changes in the limitations they'll assign compared to what they were doing several years ago, so expect your new limitations to be different. Our FSDO assigns airworthiness inspectors to individual aircraft, so there has always one person that I have been working with. Overall, a very pleasant process and I found my inspector to be quite helpful. You may also want to write to Oklahoma City and ask to have copies of everything that they have on your aircraft. There is a minimal fee for this and it is a routine practice. This may allow you some additional insights into your purchase. Best, Warren Hill Mesa, AZ On Oct 19, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Kelley Monroe wrote: > I have just purchased a CJ with 10 year old operating limitations. > I want to get the new limitation and go to the FAA with them to get > the home base moved and a new airworthy certificate. Can some one > lead me to these? Thanks Kelley > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:14:22 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: engine shutter vane adjustment From: "keithmckinley" The engine control knob for my shutter vanes does not feel right. Almost like I'm working against a bad spring. It's hard to turn. I can really only get full open or full closed. Any where else but the exact middle position and vanes move open or closed on their own. They usually won't stay in the mid position either. (knob spins) Looked at the linkage and don't see any issues. I know there are detents on the knob that should allow it to stay in place at many different settings but mine will not hold. Ideas? Thanks -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268602#268602 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:56 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Digital Tach Update From: "Craig Winkelmann" Fellow Yak-listers: Here is the word. Order them thru Doug Sapp. We have just received word that the T-30 tachometer works with the M-14 from our launch customer (a Wilga). We are making a minor firmware update to make it easy to set up with the M-14 and other engines with an odd number of cylinders. We expect to begin shipment to M-14 customers during the week of 10/26. Thanks for your interest and patience. Charles Newman Flight Data Systems 346 Keokuk Street Petaluma, CA 94952 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268604#268604 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:42:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: riveting, bolting, question? From: doug sapp Keith,In my opinion it would add time to the job and the finished job would be less than professional if you attempt to do the task you describe using nuts and bolts, or heaven forbid---ARGH!, pop rivets, it would also add time/cost to inspections or any other reason which might cause you to remove it in the future. For the cleanest most professional job you should consider installing it in riveted assemblies, those assemblies should then be installed in the aircraft with nut plates thus making the entire installation easily removable in a short amount of time. This might seem a bit more trouble up front but it will save you a bunch of money later if you or whoever is doing your condition inspection needs to remove them. Have you considered placing the battery under the surface of the baggage compartment?? The newer style sealed batteries make this possible, and the savings in space is in my opinion worth while. The inverter can be mounted most anywhere, seems a waste of space to put it in the area where you could pack baggage. Who knows--- you may have to bring the beer next time. Riveting is not hard to do/learn, buy yourself some tools, get someone to look over your shoulder and go at it. Doug On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:07 AM, keithmckinley wrote: > keith.mckinley@townisp.com> > > I would like to remove the pull out this tray and put in another u channel > cross brace so that I can skin the whole section with a sheet of aluminum > rather that just the slide out tray. I will mount a smoke tank as well as > the battery and one inverter (the other is coming out) > > The sheet will only go as far as the current brace in the fore ground so > that I don't impede access to my air tank. > > Thoughts on the pitfalls of this plan. Also would it be OK to pop rivet the > new u channel with the L-brackets or should I use screws. Same question for > the sheet aluminum base. > > I'm afraid I have only done pop riveting. > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268558#268558 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_037_423.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_037_105.jpg > > -- Douglas Sapp Doug Sapp LLC 18B Riverview Road Omak WA 98841 PH 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:51 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: riveting, bolting, question? From: "keithmckinley" Thanks Doug, I'm pretty picky so I wouldn't have used pop rivets but it sure would be nice to learn how to really rivet. I like your idea. I actually have a sealed battery and if you notice, a nice baggage compartment as well (the rear wall is in the picture) which holds a tremendous amount of beer. It makes total sense to remove the floor and look for a spot underneath for the battery tray and inverter. I never even thought about that! Have you ever seen the inverter mounted on that frame between the two cockpits where some of the other electrical gear is located? I could then use that current sliding tray set up for the smoke tank and pump. Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268612#268612 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:41:52 PM PST US From: T A LEWIS Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: riveting, bolting, question? Keith, I agree with every thing Doug said and would add that future inspections and repairs or modifications are easily done when you can unbolt and remove these assemblies.You might consider cherry rivets from Aircraft Spruce for thesmaller assemblies . Terry Lewis ----- Original Message ---- From: keithmckinley Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:18:33 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: riveting, bolting, question? Thanks Doug, I'm pretty picky so I wouldn't have used pop rivets but it sure would be nice to learn how to really rivet. I like your idea. I actually have a sealed battery and if you notice, a nice baggage compartment as well (the rear wall is in the picture) which holds a tremendous amount of beer. It makes total sense to remove the floor and look for a spot underneath for the battery tray and inverter. I never even thought about that! Have you ever seen the inverter mounted on that frame between the two cockpits where some of the other electrical gear is located? I could then use that current sliding tray set up for the smoke tank and pump. Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268612#268612 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:22 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak tailwheel adapters (finished) From: "racemech11" Just run across your post and am interested in one of the adopters. Can you please provide me with info about one. My email is racemech11@aol.com. thanks chip Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268628#268628 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:37 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14P Jet Mod When I got my engine new direct from Aerostar, it stumbled badly when advancing the throttle quickly. Scare the popo out me sometimes. The engine came with a whole selection of jets as part of the parts kit you get with a new engine. I put in the smallest one I could fine. I really don't know the size. The engine stopped its stumbling and has been fine now for 1,500 plus hours. I've heard of both the plugging and using the .6 mm jet. From all accounts, both seem to work OK. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby. In a message dated 10/19/2009 4:37:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, scott-p@texas.net writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: Scott Poehlmann Yes. Did this mod on my former SU-29 and my current Yak 55M. Does a great deal to reduce "stumbling" if power needs to be abruptly increased, and seems to reduce loading up while taxiing also, although that is much less pronounced. I've been very happy with this mod. Scott Larry Pine wrote: > > Just seeing what the consensus is.. Has anyone performed the jet mod > on the M14 as described in this attachment? If so what are your > results? Any concerns? > Thanks in advance. > N8181C > /Larry Pine/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.