Yak-List Digest Archive

Thu 11/05/09


Total Messages Posted: 23



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     0. 12:09 AM - Reminder (Matt Dralle)
     1. 04:55 AM - Re: Stranded Yak-52 (A. Dennis Savarese)
     2. 06:28 AM - Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts (Dennis Von Ruden)
     3. 06:35 AM - Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts (A. Dennis Savarese)
     4. 07:24 AM - Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts (skidmk)
     5. 07:58 AM - Commerce (Richard Goode)
     6. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts (doug sapp)
     7. 08:40 AM - Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts (Ronald Kalemba)
     8. 09:09 AM - Re: Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts (Byron Fox)
     9. 09:13 AM - B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ. (jblake207@COMCAST.NET)
    10. 10:36 AM - Re: Commerce (Gill Gutierrez)
    11. 11:14 AM - Re: Commerce (Hans Oortman 1)
    12. 12:09 PM - Re: Commerce (Phil Goswick)
    13. 12:28 PM - Re: OFF TOPIC  (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
    14. 12:39 PM - Re: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ. (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
    15. 01:52 PM - Re: Stranded Yak-52 (adrian a. hale)
    16. 01:54 PM - Re: Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    17. 02:06 PM - Re: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ. (Craig Winkelmann)
    18. 02:14 PM - Re: Stranded Yak-52 (A. Dennis Savarese)
    19. 03:25 PM - Re: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ. (doug sapp)
    20. 06:55 PM - Re: Commerce (bill wade)
    21. 08:00 PM - Re: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ. (Roger Kemp M.D.)
    22. 08:59 PM - Re: Sell it with discretion (Frank)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:09:16 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Reminder
    Dear Listers, Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator


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    Time: 04:55:58 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Stranded Yak-52
    Is this the same Fowler Cary that has or had the T-33? If so, we met for the first time in the mid '90's at an airshow in North Carolina. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: scgsmg@bellsouth.net To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Yak-List: Stranded Yak-52 Guys, We have a brand new Yak-52 owner (Fowler Cary) stranded in Mountain Home, AR with an air system problem. Could anyone assist with an air hose, scuba tank, etc? Shane Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


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    Time: 06:28:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts
    From: "Dennis Von Ruden" <dvonruden@generalequip.com>
    Do you have a price list? Dennis Von Ruden General Equipment Company 507.451.5510 (P) 507.451.5511 (F) dvonruden@generalequip.com -----Original Message----- From: Nanchang CJ6 [mailto:lcdzkj@live.cn] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:24 AM Subject: Yak-List: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts Ignition coil DH-2 Indicator light ZSD-1 Tail Light(White) WD-1 Wing tip navigation light HD-3 Push button AN-1A Push button AN-3A Push button AN-2 Gear switch H2-4260-01/03 Uplock actuating cylinder H2-4230-50 Check valve H2-5500-80 pressure reducing valve assembly H2-5502-00 valve H2-5522-00 Lower main gear guard plate H2-4311-00-1 magnetic compass LC-2 front wheel hub LW-11 brake cable screw H2-5113-05 pulley H2-5230-00 pulley H2-5407-30 pulley H2-5403-20/5 emergency air bottle H2-5506-10 plug H2-5506-13 Nipple H2-5505-31 washer H2-5505-32/1 reducing valve QS-1 deposit filter QL-17 air charging connector JT-7A fuel pump XB-15A -------- Sarah:86-13468610692 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271079#271079 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALL INFORMATION IN THIS EMAIL, AND/OR ATTACHMENT(S) IS CONFIDENTIAL. If you received this e mail in error, and are not the recipient(s) or responsible for receiving this e mail for the recipient, please inform the sender immediately, delete the e mail and any attachment(s) associated. This email has been scanned by Barracuda - Email Security System.


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    Time: 06:35:01 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts
    Why not just buy from Doug Sapp even if the prices are slightly less (which I seriously doubt)? Doug is and has been our "go-to" guy forever and we should support Doug in every way. Just my 2 cents. Dennis Savarese ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Von Ruden To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts <dvonruden@generalequip.com> Do you have a price list? Dennis Von Ruden General Equipment Company 507.451.5510 (P) 507.451.5511 (F) dvonruden@generalequip.com -----Original Message----- From: Nanchang CJ6 [mailto:lcdzkj@live.cn] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:24 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts Ignition coil DH-2 Indicator light ZSD-1 Tail Light(White) WD-1 Wing tip navigation light HD-3=C2 Push button AN-1A Push button AN-3A Push button AN-2 Gear switch H2-4260-01/03 Uplock actuating cylinder H2-4230-50 Check valve H2-5500-80 pressure reducing valve assembly H2-5502-00 valve H2-5522-00 Lower main gear guard plate H2-4311-00-1 magnetic compass LC-2 front wheel hub LW-11 brake cable screw H2-5113-05 pulley H2-5230-00 pulley H2-5407-30 pulley H2-5403-20/5 emergency air bottle H2-5506-10 plug H2-5506-13 Nipple H2-5505-31 washer H2-5505-32/1 reducing valve QS-1 deposit filter QL-17 air charging connector JT-7A fuel pump XB-15A -------- Sarah:86-13468610692 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271079#271079 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- ALL INFORMATION IN THIS EMAIL, AND/OR ATTACHMENT(S) IS CONFIDENTIAL. If you received this e mail in error, and are not the recipient(s) or responsible for receiving this e mail for the recipient, please inform the sender immediately, delete the e mail and any attachment(s) associated. This email has been scanned by Barracuda - Email Security System.


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    Time: 07:24:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts
    From: "skidmk" <skidmk@gmail.com>
    Here Here,,, Doug Sapp is where's its at! -------- Mike &quot;Skidmk&quot; Bourget Ottawa, Ontario Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271191#271191


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    Time: 07:58:51 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Commerce
    It has never been clear to me what the position of the list is in relation to commercial activities. On one hand I have seen that it is supposed to be a forum for exchange of ideas etc, and NOT for anything commercial, but on the other hand I see blatantly commercial postings. Clearly I am myself in the Yak business, although fortunately do not have to live totally from it, but it does seem to me that there is a need for a "commercial" Yak list, where people can post products; aircraft; components etc. I have no idea what people generally think of this - is it a good idea? Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129 www.russianaeros.com


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    Time: 08:23:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Many thanks to all of you who responded to the current rash of parts for sale with kind words of support, and I do appreciate that. Yes I know these people, they are "middle men" scurrying around trying to match up a sale with someone who has the part. Problem is that if there is a glitch in the deal they run for the hills crying "sorry my seller will not help me", so they leave you high and dry, and why should they help? They are several thousand miles away on the other side of the freaking world and hey, they already have 100% of the cost of the part plus shipping. Again, thanks for your on going support and encouragement. Now that we are not killing flowers any more parts are what's keeping the lights on. All the best. Doug and Kathleen On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:23 AM, skidmk <skidmk@gmail.com> wrote: > > Here Here,,, Doug Sapp is where's its at! > > -------- > Mike &quot;Skidmk&quot; Bourget > Ottawa, Ontario > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271191#271191 > > -- Maybe life is not the party that we were expecting, but in the mean time, we're here and we can still dance....." Douglas Sapp Doug Sapp LLC 18B Riverview Road Omak WA 98841 PH 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 08:40:04 AM PST US
    From: Ronald Kalemba <emu21@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts
    I agree 100% !!!- Support Doug . Ron Kalemba CJ-6 --- On Thu, 11/5/09, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote : From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts Why not just buy from Doug Sapp even if the prices are slightly less (which I seriously doubt)?- Doug is and has been-our "go-to" guy forever and we should support-Doug in every way.- Just my 2 cents. Dennis Savarese - ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Von Ruden Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts com> Do you have a price list? Dennis Von Ruden General Equipment Company 507.451.5510 (P) 507.451.5511 (F) dvonruden@generalequip.com -----Original Message----- From: Nanchang CJ6 [mailto:lcdzkj@live.cn] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:24 AM Subject: Yak-List: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts Ignition coil DH-2 Indicator light ZSD-1 Tail Light(White) WD-1 Wing tip navigation light HD-3=C2 Push button AN-1A Push button AN-3A Push button AN-2 Gear switch H2-4260-01/03 Uplock actuating cylinder H2-4230-50 Check valve H2-5500-80 pressure reducing valve assembly H2-5502-00 valve H2-5522-00 Lower main gear guard plate H2-4311-00-1 magnetic compass LC-2 front wheel hub LW-11 brake cable screw H2-5113-05 pulley H2-5230-00 pulley H2-5407-30 pulley H2-5403-20/5 emergency air bottle H2-5506-10 plug H2-5506-13 Nipple H2-5505-31 washer H2-5505-32/1 reducing valve QS-1 deposit filter QL-17 -air charging connector JT-7A fuel pump XB-15A -------- Sarah:86-13468610692 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271079#271079 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ALL INFORMATION IN THIS EMAIL, AND/OR ATTACHMENT(S) IS CONFIDENTIAL. If you received this e mail in error, and are not the recipient(s) or responsible for receiving this e mail for the recipient, please inform the sender imme diately, delete the e mail and any attachment(s) associated. This email has been scanned by Barracuda - Email Security p;----- -- Please Support Your Lists This Month (And Get the Annual link Free * Ae roElectric http://www.matronics.com/c Thank you for your generous ;-- ------------------- -Matt Dralle, Lis t nbsp;------ Navigator Photoshare, and href="http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics======== ================<;--- via the Web hre f="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _=============


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    Time: 09:09:05 AM PST US
    From: Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts
    Parts are but a portion of Doug's support. Can't count the number of times I've called for help. He's our consultant, confessor, psychiatrist and Dad rolled into one. I also have crush on Kathleen. ...Blitz Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2009, at 8:19 AM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote: > Many thanks to all of you who responded to the current rash of parts > for sale with kind words of support, and I do appreciate that. Yes > I know these people, they are "middle men" scurrying around trying > to match up a sale with someone who has the part. Problem is that > if there is a glitch in the deal they run for the hills crying > "sorry my seller will not help me", so they leave you high and dry, > and why should they help? They are several thousand miles away on > the other side of the freaking world and hey, they already have 100% > of the cost of the part plus shipping. > > Again, thanks for your on going support and encouragement. Now that > we are not killing flowers any more parts are what's keeping the > lights on. > > All the best. > Doug and Kathleen > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:23 AM, skidmk <skidmk@gmail.com> wrote: > > Here Here,,, Doug Sapp is where's its at! > > -------- > Mike &quot;Skidmk&quot; Bourget > Ottawa, Ontario > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271191#271191 > > > ========== > ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com > ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > le, List Admin. > ========== > rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > > > -- > Maybe life is not the party that we were expecting, > but in the mean time, we're here and we can still dance....." > Douglas Sapp > Doug Sapp LLC > 18B Riverview Road > Omak WA 98841 > PH 509-826-4610 > Fax 509-826-3644 > >


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    Time: 09:13:28 AM PST US
    From: jblake207@COMCAST.NET
    Subject: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ.
    Does anyone out there have any advice on installing the B&C alternator on a stock CJ? =C2- I ask because I=99m hearing a couple different thin gs about adaptor plates, oil seals, special gears, etc. =C2- I=99ve ordered the alternator and VR from B&C, an adaptor plate from Doug Sapp, b ut would really like to hear from someone who has been there and done that just to make sure we aren=99t missing something. =C2- Please contac t off list at jblake207@comcast.net or voice 334-791-5690. =C2- Thanks, J on


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    Time: 10:36:16 AM PST US
    From: "Gill Gutierrez" <gill.g@gpimail.com>
    Subject: Commerce
    Great idea From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: Yak-List: Commerce It has never been clear to me what the position of the list is in relation to commercial activities. On one hand I have seen that it is supposed to be a forum for exchange of ideas etc, and NOT for anything commercial, but on the other hand I see blatantly commercial postings. Clearly I am myself in the Yak business, although fortunately do not have to live totally from it, but it does seem to me that there is a need for a "commercial" Yak list, where people can post products; aircraft; components etc. I have no idea what people generally think of this - is it a good idea? Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129 www.russianaeros.com


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    Time: 11:14:37 AM PST US
    From: "Hans Oortman 1" <pa3arw@euronet.nl>
    Subject: Commerce
    I'd support that too! Hans _____ Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens Richard Goode Verzonden: donderdag 5 november 2009 16:56 Aan: yak-list@matronics.com Onderwerp: Yak-List: Commerce It has never been clear to me what the position of the list is in relation to commercial activities. On one hand I have seen that it is supposed to be a forum for exchange of ideas etc, and NOT for anything commercial, but on the other hand I see blatantly commercial postings. Clearly I am myself in the Yak business, although fortunately do not have to live totally from it, but it does seem to me that there is a need for a "commercial" Yak list, where people can post products; aircraft; components etc. I have no idea what people generally think of this - is it a good idea? Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129 www.russianaeros.com


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    Time: 12:09:58 PM PST US
    From: "Phil Goswick" <p.goswick@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Commerce
    as a member of this unique Yak community, I welcome any listing of parts and information so that I can maintain my Yak to the highest standards. I am also interested in any Yaks that are placed on the market for sale. I would not want to see listings of span cans or other unrelated items. I go to ebay for that. Thank you Phil Goswick Tulsa, Oklahoma Yak 52 ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Goode To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: Yak-List: Commerce It has never been clear to me what the position of the list is in relation to commercial activities. On one hand I have seen that it is supposed to be a forum for exchange of ideas etc, and NOT for anything commercial, but on the other hand I see blatantly commercial postings. Clearly I am myself in the Yak business, although fortunately do not have to live totally from it, but it does seem to me that there is a need for a "commercial" Yak list, where people can post products; aircraft; components etc. I have no idea what people generally think of this - is it a good idea? Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129 www.russianaeros.com


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    Time: 12:28:55 PM PST US
    Subject: OFF TOPIC
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    I'll leave ya alone Doc! Enough on this one! :L-) <Mark> -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: OFF TOPIC --> <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Off topic cont. I have and they still are. When all you can do is turn left to shoot...U R a target and U.R predictable. My guys just came back from the sandbox. That is all they did was support the guys on the ground 500 lb JDAMS. And 20 mm. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: OFF TOPIC A C-130 is a "Target"? Tell that to the crews flying the AC-130 gunship. Doc, to the guys who are concerned only with the rush of flying, the F-16 is a clear winner. To the folks flying aircraft that remember that their main role in life is to support the guys on the ground, .... There is a completely different outlook. Sorry, this is WAY off topic, but I just could not let it go. :-) Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:53 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Russ, I'm 59 years old entering my last year of military (ANG) service and am still flying the F-16. There are things to be said about comfort and riding but when it comes to shear fun with what's left of my hair on fire the venerable ol 130 is just not going to cut it! There are fighters and then there are targets. The 130 is a target. When it comes to the fight, I'll take 4 X 4 gun any day with the ability to shoot back not throughing trash out to the back. As for comfort, the Viper is strapped on like your favorite pair of driving gloves. You strap her on as an extension of yourself not walk up the steps/ramp into a cavern. With that 30 degree tilt seat, I'm quite comfortable in that little cocoon with the panoramic view not having to ID my foe by looking out at the world through a portal. Although a nimble aircraft, the 130 will shuck her wings at 9 Gs everytime! Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russ Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Yak-List: A C-130 was lumbering along when a cocky F-16 flashed by. The jet jockey decided to show off. The fighter jock told the C-130 pilot, 'watch this!' and promptly went into a barrel roll followed by a steep climb. He then finished with a sonic boom as he broke the sound barrier. The F-16 pilot asked the C-130 pilot what he thought of that? The C-130 pilot said, 'That was impressive, but watch this!' The C-130 droned along for about 5 minutes and then the C-130 pilot came back on and said: 'What did you think of that?' Puzzled, the F-16 pilot asked, 'What the heck did you do?' The C-130 pilot chuckled. 'I stood up, stretched my legs, walked to the back, went to the bathroom, then got a cup of coffee and a cinnamon bun.' When you are young & foolish - speed & flash may seem a good thing !!! When you get older & smarter - comfort & dull is not such a bad thing !!! Us older folks understand this one. www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 12:39:53 PM PST US
    Subject: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ.
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    I would suggest calling the owner of B&C himself. He is a terrific person, DEDICATED to making a great product and knows these issues like the back of his hand. If you do, please tell him I said hello and wish him well. I strongly believe in this mans products and would purchase anything he sells without hesitation. Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jblake207@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: Yak-List: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ. Does anyone out there have any advice on installing the B&C alternator on a stock CJ? I ask because I'm hearing a couple different things about adaptor plates, oil seals, special gears, etc. I've ordered the alternator and VR from B&C, an adaptor plate from Doug Sapp, but would really like to hear from someone who has been there and done that just to make sure we aren't missing something. Please contact off list at jblake207@comcast.net <mailto:jblake207@comcast.net> or voice 334-791-5690. Thanks, Jon


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    Time: 01:52:45 PM PST US
    From: "adrian a. hale" <coolade@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Stranded Yak-52
    the guys who run the fueling operation at Mountain Home have a M14p powered pitts and are very helpful( not the FBO). I don't remember thier name but it is on the pumps on the north side of the airport-- Ade Hale On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:12 PM, scgsmg@bellsouth.net wrote: > > Guys, > > We have a brand new Yak-52 owner (Fowler Cary) stranded in Mountain > Home, AR with an air system problem. Could anyone assist with an > air hose, scuba tank, etc? > > Shane > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >


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    Time: 01:54:09 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts
    In a message dated 11/5/2009 12:10:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, byronmfox@gmail.com writes: YES YES YES, IT'S KATHLEEN THAT MAKES THE DIFFERANCE!!!! Me too Blitz. But she is MINE MINE MINE! =D Pappy Parts are but a portion of Doug's support. Can't count the number of times I've called for help. He's our consultant, confessor, psychiatrist and Dad rolled into one. I also have crush on Kathleen. ...Blitz Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2009, at 8:19 AM, doug sapp <_dougsappllc@gmail.com_ (mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com) > wrote: Many thanks to all of you who responded to the current rash of parts for sale with kind words of support, and I do appreciate that. Yes I know these people, they are "middle men" scurrying around trying to match up a sale with someone who has the part. Problem is that if there is a glitch in the deal they run for the hills crying "sorry my seller will not help me", so they leave you high and dry, and why should they help? They are several thousand miles away on the other side of the freaking world and hey, they already have 100% of the cost of the part plus shipping. Again, thanks for your on going support and encouragement. Now that we are not killing flowers any more parts are what's keeping the lights on. All the best. Doug and Kathleen On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:23 AM, skidmk <_skidmk@gmail.com_ (mailto:skidmk@gmail.com) > wrote: --> Yak-List message posted by: "skidmk" <_skidmk@gmail.com_ (mailto:skidmk@gmail.com) > Here Here,,, Doug Sapp is where's its at! -------- Mike &quot;Skidmk&quot; Bourget Ottawa, Ontario Read this topic online here: _http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271191#271191_ (http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271191#271191) ========== ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com _ooks.com_ (http://ooks.com/) " target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com ="_blank">_http://www.matronics.com/contribution_ (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) le, List Admin. ========== rget="_blank">_http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List_ (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List) ========== _http://forums.matronics.com_ (http://forums.matronics.com/) ==========


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    Time: 02:06:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ.
    From: "Craig Winkelmann" <capav8r@gmail.com>
    I've recently been thru the wringer with this with the B&C alternator I had installed for me on my CJ. Multiple alternator failures in flight, broken gears, searching the engine for metal parts, spending all my time at OSH working on the plane, etc. Do it right and it works like a champ. Don't and it is a mess. DO NOT use the Housai pinion gear that drives the generator. ONLY use the M-14P drive gear. Make sure you adjust the backlash properly in the ring gear that drives the generator pinion gear. George Coy got me the proper M-14 pinion gear. Took like six to eight weeks and cost $275. The one I got from George is here on my desk ready to be sent to Bill at B&C who fortunately had one at OSH and gave it to me so I could fly home after draining the oil at OSH to remove the brass shavings in the oil from the Housai gear failure (now THAT'S customer service!!). I later found the missing cog in the engine when I got back home. It could have caused MAJOR damage if it had worked its way lower in the accessory case. After my debacle, Bill was going to work on a modification of the male spline shaft that he provides with the alternator. Even with his new shaft, you still MUST use the M-14P gear. The B&C Alternator and VR are very simple to install and the B&C VR gives lots of protection. Just do it right. Make sure you also follow the B&C installation and troubleshooting guide to verify proper voltages, etc. Hope this helps. Craig W. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271255#271255


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    Time: 02:14:38 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Stranded Yak-52
    I've been on the phone twice today with Fowler and I think I've helped him solve his problems. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: adrian a. hale To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:48 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Stranded Yak-52 the guys who run the fueling operation at Mountain Home have a M14p powered pitts and are very helpful( not the FBO). I don't remember thier name but it is on the pumps on the north side of the airport-- Ade Hale On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:12 PM, scgsmg@bellsouth.net wrote: > > Guys, > > We have a brand new Yak-52 owner (Fowler Cary) stranded in Mountain > Home, AR with an air system problem. Could anyone assist with an > air hose, scuba tank, etc? > > Shane > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > >


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    Time: 03:25:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ.
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Jon, Without doing a bunch of digging here are two folks who have used my seal plate. Contact Jim Bernier, his email is JBernier@dart.org he has installed an al t using my seal plate. So has Mort of Mort's Flying service mortsaero@comcast.net. Best, Doug On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:13 AM, <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote: > Does anyone out there have any advice on installing the B&C alternator on a > stock CJ? I ask because I=92m hearing a couple different things about > adaptor plates, oil seals, special gears, etc. I=92ve ordered the > alternator and VR from B&C, an adaptor plate from Doug Sapp, but would > really like to hear from someone who has been there and done that just to > make sure we aren=92t missing something. Please contact off list at > jblake207@comcast.net or voice 334-791-5690. Thanks, Jon > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- Maybe life is not the party that we were expecting, but in the mean time, we're here and we can still dance....." Douglas Sapp Doug Sapp LLC 18B Riverview Road Omak WA 98841 PH 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644


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    Time: 06:55:09 PM PST US
    From: bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Commerce
    Yes Richard it is a good idea=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________________ _=0AFrom: Richard Goode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>=0ATo: yak-list@mat ronics.com=0ASent: Thu, November 5, 2009 10:55:59 AM=0ASubject: Yak-List: C ommerce=0A=0A=0AIt has never been clear to me what the position of the list is in relation to commercial activities.-- On one hand I have seen tha t it is supposed to be a forum for exchange of ideas etc, and NOT for anyth ing commercial, but on the other hand I see blatantly commercial postings. - =0AClearly I am myself in the Yak business, although fortunately do not have to live totally from it, but it does seem to me that there is a need for a "commercial" Yak list, where people can post products; aircraft; comp onents etc.- =0A=0AI have no idea what people generally think of this - i s it a good idea?- =0ARichard Goode Aerobatics =0ARhodds Farm =0ALyonshal l=0AHerefordshire=0AHR5 3LW =0AUnited Kingdom=0A=0ATel: +44 (0) 1544 340 12 -======================== ======0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:00:09 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ.
    Jon, Give Pappy a call. He has a B&C in his CJ. doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ. MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> I would suggest calling the owner of B&C himself. He is a terrific person, DEDICATED to making a great product and knows these issues like the back of his hand. If you do, please tell him I said hello and wish him well. I strongly believe in this mans products and would purchase anything he sells without hesitation. Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jblake207@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: Yak-List: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ. Does anyone out there have any advice on installing the B&C alternator on a stock CJ? I ask because I'm hearing a couple different things about adaptor plates, oil seals, special gears, etc. I've ordered the alternator and VR from B&C, an adaptor plate from Doug Sapp, but would really like to hear from someone who has been there and done that just to make sure we aren't missing something. Please contact off list at jblake207@comcast.net <mailto:jblake207@comcast.net> or voice 334-791-5690. Thanks, Jon


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    Time: 08:59:42 PM PST US
    From: "Frank" <frank@orionite.com>
    Subject: Re: Sell it with discretion
    Richard As to commercial activities on this list..................... Seems to me things are going along great with the list the way it is. People let people know about their products. A limited, targeted, special interest type commercial activity isn't a problem until it becomes spam (read that to mean repeated postings to where people get sick of it). Let people know what you got but don't make a nuisance of yourself with "advertising like" activities. I think that is the secret to a list like this. Most people want to know what's available out there but if it's pounded into their heads like a commercial it won't go over too well. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Goode To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: Yak-List: Commerce It has never been clear to me what the position of the list is in relation to commercial activities. On one hand I have seen that it is supposed to be a forum for exchange of ideas etc, and NOT for anything commercial, but on the other hand I see blatantly commercial postings. Clearly I am myself in the Yak business, although fortunately do not have to live totally from it, but it does seem to me that there is a need for a "commercial" Yak list, where people can post products; aircraft; components etc. I have no idea what people generally think of this - is it a good idea? Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129 www.russianaeros.com




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