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1. 01:14 AM - Re: Sell it with discretion (Lou)
2. 05:02 AM - Re: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ. (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 08:53 AM - Re: Sell it with discretion (David McGirt)
4. 09:21 AM - Tip from the folks at Simple Green (N642K)
5. 09:53 AM - Re: Sell it with discretion (Eric Wobschall)
6. 09:58 AM - Fw: Sell it with discretion (KingCJ6@aol.com)
7. 11:27 AM - Re: Sell it with discretion (Didier Blouzard)
8. 11:34 AM - Re: Tip from the folks at Simple Green (Jim Selby)
9. 11:48 AM - Re: Sell it with discretion (Warren Hill)
10. 12:04 PM - Re: Sell it with discretion (delfin)
11. 02:36 PM - Re: Sell it with discretion (A. Dennis Savarese)
12. 04:19 PM - Re: Sell it with discretion (John Fischer)
13. 06:26 PM - Re: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ. (Roger Kemp M.D.)
14. 07:18 PM - Re: Sell it with discretion (DAVID STROUD)
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| Subject: | Re: Sell it with discretion |
Gentlemen of the Yaklist (Nanchang list)
When I started to restore my cj6a 12 years ago and paid $1100 to get a
part made that now retails for less than $100 Doug in usa Walt in canada
and some others, I found these blokes on the red star pilots
association as it was then called was a great help to me as I didn't
know who would support these wonderful aircraft, to stop these blokes
for advertising on the yak list what they have in stock is far more
damaging then not having them advertise, very easy to hit the delete
button if you want don't want to read the mail, I live in Australia
which is a lot closer to china than you blokes and I have had parts
supplied from Doug and others at very reasonable prices I think of us as
a community of friends with a common interest so don't stuff up a good
list.
Ps I have made a new friend in North Carolina because of this list.
Regards Lou
From: Frank
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
Richard
As to commercial activities on this list.....................
Seems to me things are going along great with the list the way it is.
People let people know about their products. A limited, targeted,
special interest type commercial activity isn't a problem until it
becomes spam (read that to mean repeated postings to where people get
sick of it). Let people know what you got but don't make a nuisance of
yourself with "advertising like" activities. I think that is the secret
to a list like this. Most people want to know what's available out there
but if it's pounded into their heads like a commercial it won't go over
too well.
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Goode
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Commerce
It has never been clear to me what the position of the list is in
relation to commercial activities. On one hand I have seen that it is
supposed to be a forum for exchange of ideas etc, and NOT for anything
commercial, but on the other hand I see blatantly commercial postings.
Clearly I am myself in the Yak business, although fortunately do not
have to live totally from it, but it does seem to me that there is a
need for a "commercial" Yak list, where people can post products;
aircraft; components etc.
I have no idea what people generally think of this - is it a good
idea?
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129
www.russianaeros.com
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| Subject: | Re: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ. |
But Pappy has an M14 and not the original Housai 285.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D.
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:41 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ.
<viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Jon,
Give Pappy a call. He has a B&C in his CJ.
doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:38 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ.
Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
I would suggest calling the owner of B&C himself. He is a terrific
person, DEDICATED to making a great product and knows these issues
like
the back of his hand. If you do, please tell him I said hello and
wish
him well. I strongly believe in this mans products and would purchase
anything he sells without hesitation.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jblake207@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:13 PM
To: Yak-List Digest
Subject: Yak-List: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ.
Does anyone out there have any advice on installing the B&C alternator
on a stock CJ? I ask because I'm hearing a couple different things
about adaptor plates, oil seals, special gears, etc. I've ordered the
alternator and VR from B&C, an adaptor plate from Doug Sapp, but would
really like to hear from someone who has been there and done that just
to make sure we aren't missing something. Please contact off list at
jblake207@comcast.net <mailto:jblake207@comcast.net> or voice
334-791-5690. Thanks, Jon
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| Subject: | Sell it with discretion |
Just a suggestion -
Create a thread dedicated to the commercial guys. They and ONLY they post
on this thread - their contact info, parts available, etc. That way
everyone can delete or search for that thread as needed. The key would be
NOONE Else posting in that thread..
Just a thought..
David McGirt
Yak52 TW
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lou
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
Gentlemen of the Yaklist (Nanchang list)
When I started to restore my cj6a 12 years ago and paid $1100 to get a part
made that now retails for less than $100 Doug in usa Walt in canada and some
others, I found these blokes on the red star pilots association as it was
then called was a great help to me as I didn't know who would support these
wonderful aircraft, to stop these blokes for advertising on the yak list
what they have in stock is far more damaging then not having them advertise,
very easy to hit the delete button if you want don't want to read the mail,
I live in Australia which is a lot closer to china than you blokes and I
have had parts supplied from Doug and others at very reasonable prices I
think of us as a community of friends with a common interest so don't stuff
up a good list.
Ps I have made a new friend in North Carolina because of this list.
Regards Lou
From: Frank <mailto:frank@orionite.com>
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
Richard
As to commercial activities on this list.....................
Seems to me things are going along great with the list the way it is. People
let people know about their products. A limited, targeted, special interest
type commercial activity isn't a problem until it becomes spam (read that to
mean repeated postings to where people get sick of it). Let people know what
you got but don't make a nuisance of yourself with "advertising like"
activities. I think that is the secret to a list like this. Most people want
to know what's available out there but if it's pounded into their heads like
a commercial it won't go over too well.
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Goode <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Commerce
It has never been clear to me what the position of the list is in relation
to commercial activities. On one hand I have seen that it is supposed to
be a forum for exchange of ideas etc, and NOT for anything commercial, but
on the other hand I see blatantly commercial postings.
Clearly I am myself in the Yak business, although fortunately do not have to
live totally from it, but it does seem to me that there is a need for a
"commercial" Yak list, where people can post products; aircraft; components
etc.
I have no idea what people generally think of this - is it a good idea?
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129
www.russianaeros.com
href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
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| Subject: | Tip from the folks at Simple Green |
Called Simple Green Corporate Offices looking for a local source for Simple Green
Extreme (non corrosive simple green degreaser). She sent me to Home Depot.
Home Depot brand ProHD degreaser IS simple green extreme! $4.00/gallon cheaper
than aircraft spruce and no shipping charges!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271372#271372
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| Subject: | Re: Sell it with discretion |
Personally, I think that we're all so specialized here in the Yak / CJ
thread that we're probably all interested in pretty much everything
that's commercially available in this category. I'm interested in both
(tips and parts) and would prefer to not have look in two places. Of
course repetitive stuff is a no-no, and it wouldn't work if it gets
out of hand. If it gets posted once and someone misses it, others will
clue him or her in. I think it works OK as it is.
-Eric N52EW
On Nov 6, 2009, at 11:51 AM, David McGirt wrote:
> Just a suggestion '
>
> Create a thread dedicated to the commercial guys. They and ONLY
> they post on this thread ' their contact info, parts available,
> etc. That way everyone can delete or search for that thread as
> needed. The key would be NOONE Else posting in that thread..
>
> Just a thought..
>
> David McGirt
> Yak52 TW
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Lou
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:56 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
>
> Gentlemen of the Yaklist (Nanchang list)
>
> When I started to restore my cj6a 12 years ago and paid $1100 to get
> a part made that now retails for less than $100 Doug in usa Walt in
> canada and some others, I found these blokes on the red star pilots
> association as it was then called was a great help to me as I didn't
> know who would support these wonderful aircraft, to stop these
> blokes for advertising on the yak list what they have in stock is
> far more damaging then not having them advertise, very easy to hit
> the delete button if you want don't want to read the mail, I live in
> Australia which is a lot closer to china than you blokes and I have
> had parts supplied from Doug and others at very reasonable prices I
> think of us as a community of friends with a common interest so
> don't stuff up a good list.
> Ps I have made a new friend in North Carolina because of this list.
>
> Regards Lou
> From: Frank
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
>
> Richard
> As to commercial activities on this list.....................
> Seems to me things are going along great with the list the way it
> is. People let people know about their products. A limited,
> targeted, special interest type commercial activity isn't a problem
> until it becomes spam (read that to mean repeated postings to where
> people get sick of it). Let people know what you got but don't make
> a nuisance of yourself with "advertising like" activities. I think
> that is the secret to a list like this. Most people want to know
> what's available out there but if it's pounded into their heads like
> a commercial it won't go over too well.
> Frank
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Goode
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:55 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: Commerce
>
> It has never been clear to me what the position of the list is in
> relation to commercial activities. On one hand I have seen that it
> is supposed to be a forum for exchange of ideas etc, and NOT for
> anything commercial, but on the other hand I see blatantly
> commercial postings.
>
> Clearly I am myself in the Yak business, although fortunately do not
> have to live totally from it, but it does seem to me that there is a
> need for a "commercial" Yak list, where people can post products;
> aircraft; components etc.
>
> I have no idea what people generally think of this - is it a good
> idea?
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Herefordshire
> HR5 3LW
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129
> www.russianaeros.com
>
>
> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
>
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ch
ref=
>
"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Nav
igator?Yak-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>
>
> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
>
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ch
ref=
>
"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Nav
igator?Yak-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>
>
> www.aeroelectric.com
> www.buildersbooks.com
> www.homebuilthelp.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Sell it with discretion |
X2
____________________________________
From: eric@buffaloskyline.com
Sent: 11/6/2009 9:55:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time
Subj: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
Personally, I think that we're all so specialized here in the Yak / CJ
thread that we're probably all interested in pretty much everything that's
commercially available in this category. I'm interested in both (tips and
parts) and would prefer to not have look in two places. Of course repetitive
stuff is a no-no, and it wouldn't work if it gets out of hand. If it gets
posted once and someone misses it, others will clue him or her in. I think it
works OK as it is.
-Eric N52EW
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| Subject: | Re: Sell it with discretion |
Hi all,
I follow all your tought very carrefully.
I must say that knowing who can propose what is of great help anywhere in
the world.
I enjoy knowing who has what part and if I get annoyed I just hit the
delete button.
I like this list just the way it is.
But I would like it anyway.
Kind regards
2009/11/6 <KingCJ6@aol.com>
>
> X2
>
> ------------------------------
> From: eric@buffaloskyline.com
>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: 11/6/2009 9:55:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time
> Subj: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
>
> Personally, I think that we're all so specialized here in the Yak / CJ
> thread that we're probably all interested in pretty much everything that's
> commercially available in this category. I'm interested in both (tips and
> parts) and would prefer to not have look in two places. Of course repetitive
> stuff is a no-no, and it wouldn't work if it gets out of hand. If it gets
> posted once and someone misses it, others will clue him or her in. I think
> it works OK as it is.
>
> -Eric N52EW
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Didier BLOUZARD
didier.blouzard@gmail.com
0624243672
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| Subject: | Re: Tip from the folks at Simple Green |
Call Kregg at Victory Aero for your Cleaner..
Kregg Victory
408-729-7635 Office
408-836-5122 Cell
www.balancemyprop.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "N642K" <mdecanio@mac.com>
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 9:21 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Tip from the folks at Simple Green
>
> Called Simple Green Corporate Offices looking for a local source for
> Simple Green Extreme (non corrosive simple green degreaser). She sent me
> to Home Depot. Home Depot brand ProHD degreaser IS simple green extreme!
> $4.00/gallon cheaper than aircraft spruce and no shipping charges!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271372#271372
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sell it with discretion |
I agree with Eric. We're all in this together and if someone has a
service or product that would be of value to a CJ or YAK owner, it's
clearly something worthwhile to know about. This is such a specialized
and small part of the aviation community, I think that anything posted
about these airplanes is worth seeing. And to be made to go to a
separate list for this would, at the very least dilute the forum and
more than likely be a complete waste of time. If Doug, with his unique
experience that can serve as filter for the rest of us, says that xyz
fuel totalizer works great for the CJ, that's something worth knowing.
Warren Hill
N867PA
On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Eric Wobschall wrote:
> Personally, I think that we're all so specialized here in the Yak /
> CJ thread that we're probably all interested in pretty much
> everything that's commercially available in this category. I'm
> interested in both (tips and parts) and would prefer to not have
> look in two places. Of course repetitive stuff is a no-no, and it
> wouldn't work if it gets out of hand. If it gets posted once and
> someone misses it, others will clue him or her in. I think it works
> OK as it is.
>
> -Eric N52EW
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2009, at 11:51 AM, David McGirt wrote:
>
>> Just a suggestion
>>
>> Create a thread dedicated to the commercial guys. They and ONLY
>> they post on this thread their contact info, parts available,
>> etc. That way everyone can delete or search for that thread as
>> needed. The key would be NOONE Else posting in that thread..
>>
>> Just a thought..
>>
>> David McGirt
>> Yak52 TW
>>
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> ] On Behalf Of Lou
>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:56 AM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
>>
>> Gentlemen of the Yaklist (Nanchang list)
>>
>> When I started to restore my cj6a 12 years ago and paid $1100 to
>> get a part made that now retails for less than $100 Doug in usa
>> Walt in canada and some others, I found these blokes on the red
>> star pilots association as it was then called was a great help to
>> me as I didn't know who would support these wonderful aircraft, to
>> stop these blokes for advertising on the yak list what they have in
>> stock is far more damaging then not having them advertise, very
>> easy to hit the delete button if you want don't want to read the
>> mail, I live in Australia which is a lot closer to china than you
>> blokes and I have had parts supplied from Doug and others at very
>> reasonable prices I think of us as a community of friends with a
>> common interest so don't stuff up a good list.
>> Ps I have made a new friend in North Carolina because of this list.
>>
>> Regards Lou
>> From: Frank
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
>>
>> Richard
>> As to commercial activities on this list.....................
>> Seems to me things are going along great with the list the way it
>> is. People let people know about their products. A limited,
>> targeted, special interest type commercial activity isn't a problem
>> until it becomes spam (read that to mean repeated postings to where
>> people get sick of it). Let people know what you got but don't make
>> a nuisance of yourself with "advertising like" activities. I think
>> that is the secret to a list like this. Most people want to know
>> what's available out there but if it's pounded into their heads
>> like a commercial it won't go over too well.
>> Frank
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Richard Goode
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:55 AM
>> Subject: Yak-List: Commerce
>>
>> It has never been clear to me what the position of the list is in
>> relation to commercial activities. On one hand I have seen that
>> it is supposed to be a forum for exchange of ideas etc, and NOT for
>> anything commercial, but on the other hand I see blatantly
>> commercial postings.
>>
>> Clearly I am myself in the Yak business, although fortunately do
>> not have to live totally from it, but it does seem to me that there
>> is a need for a "commercial" Yak list, where people can post
>> products; aircraft; components etc.
>>
>> I have no idea what people generally think of this - is it a good
>> idea?
>>
>> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>> Rhodds Farm
>> Lyonshall
>> Herefordshire
>> HR5 3LW
>> United Kingdom
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120
>> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129
>> www.russianaeros.com
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
>> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
>> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref=
>> "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
>> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
>> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref=
>> "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>>
>> www.aeroelectric.com
>> www.buildersbooks.com
>> www.homebuilthelp.com
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>>
>> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;
>> ">www.aeroelectric.com
>> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com" style="color: blue; text-
>> decoration: underline; ">www.buildersbooks.com
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I must say that sharing tips and also sharing sources for parts is-THE re
ason that I read- YAK matronics.- As these aircraft become older, parts
are-becoming more and more difficult to find and we need to explore ever
y avenue together. -I'm concerned that we may see a time we these YAK par
ts just wont be available.- Even now, I have written numerous vendors for
parts with no luck.- Converting to use western parts (for me) is not the
answer. I'm struggling to find NOS parts and its not easy. thanks for lett
ing me vent.
-
-=0A=0A__________________________________________________=0ADo You Yahoo!
://mail.yahoo.com
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Any post for parts or service with the statement "Contact me off-list
for further information" should be satisfactory. I for one am happy to
see such postings. And I am fairly certain most people on this list are
glad to know where parts or a service related to our specialized
aircraft can be found. If it is or becomes spam, it can easily be
blocked by Matt Draile.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Warren Hill
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
I agree with Eric. We're all in this together and if someone has a
service or product that would be of value to a CJ or YAK owner, it's
clearly something worthwhile to know about. This is such a specialized
and small part of the aviation community, I think that anything posted
about these airplanes is worth seeing. And to be made to go to a
separate list for this would, at the very least dilute the forum and
more than likely be a complete waste of time. If Doug, with his unique
experience that can serve as filter for the rest of us, says that xyz
fuel totalizer works great for the CJ, that's something worth knowing.
Warren Hill
N867PA
On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Eric Wobschall wrote:
> Personally, I think that we're all so specialized here in the Yak /
> CJ thread that we're probably all interested in pretty much
> everything that's commercially available in this category. I'm
> interested in both (tips and parts) and would prefer to not have
> look in two places. Of course repetitive stuff is a no-no, and it
> wouldn't work if it gets out of hand. If it gets posted once and
> someone misses it, others will clue him or her in. I think it works
> OK as it is.
>
> -Eric N52EW
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2009, at 11:51 AM, David McGirt wrote:
>
>> Just a suggestion '
>>
>> Create a thread dedicated to the commercial guys. They and ONLY
>> they post on this thread ' their contact info, parts available,
>> etc. That way everyone can delete or search for that thread as
>> needed. The key would be NOONE Else posting in that thread..
>>
>> Just a thought..
>>
>> David McGirt
>> Yak52 TW
>>
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> ] On Behalf Of Lou
>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:56 AM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
>>
>> Gentlemen of the Yaklist (Nanchang list)
>>
>> When I started to restore my cj6a 12 years ago and paid $1100 to
>> get a part made that now retails for less than $100 Doug in usa
>> Walt in canada and some others, I found these blokes on the red
>> star pilots association as it was then called was a great help to
>> me as I didn't know who would support these wonderful aircraft, to
>> stop these blokes for advertising on the yak list what they have in
>> stock is far more damaging then not having them advertise, very
>> easy to hit the delete button if you want don't want to read the
>> mail, I live in Australia which is a lot closer to china than you
>> blokes and I have had parts supplied from Doug and others at very
>> reasonable prices I think of us as a community of friends with a
>> common interest so don't stuff up a good list.
>> Ps I have made a new friend in North Carolina because of this list.
>>
>> Regards Lou
>> From: Frank
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
>>
>> Richard
>> As to commercial activities on this list.....................
>> Seems to me things are going along great with the list the way it
>> is. People let people know about their products. A limited,
>> targeted, special interest type commercial activity isn't a problem
>> until it becomes spam (read that to mean repeated postings to where
>> people get sick of it). Let people know what you got but don't make
>> a nuisance of yourself with "advertising like" activities. I think
>> that is the secret to a list like this. Most people want to know
>> what's available out there but if it's pounded into their heads
>> like a commercial it won't go over too well.
>> Frank
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Richard Goode
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:55 AM
>> Subject: Yak-List: Commerce
>>
>> It has never been clear to me what the position of the list is in
>> relation to commercial activities. On one hand I have seen that
>> it is supposed to be a forum for exchange of ideas etc, and NOT for
>> anything commercial, but on the other hand I see blatantly
>> commercial postings.
>>
>> Clearly I am myself in the Yak business, although fortunately do
>> not have to live totally from it, but it does seem to me that there
>> is a need for a "commercial" Yak list, where people can post
>> products; aircraft; components etc.
>>
>> I have no idea what people generally think of this - is it a good
>> idea?
>>
>> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>> Rhodds Farm
>> Lyonshall
>> Herefordshire
>> HR5 3LW
>> United Kingdom
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120
>> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129
>> www.russianaeros.com
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
>> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
>> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
>>
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
href=
>>
"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Na
vigator?Yak-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
>> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
>> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
>>
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
href=
>>
"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Na
vigator?Yak-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>>
>> www.aeroelectric.com
>> www.buildersbooks.com
>> www.homebuilthelp.com
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>>
>> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;
>> ">www.aeroelectric.com
>> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com" style="color: blue; text-
>> decoration: underline; ">www.buildersbooks.com
>> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;
">www.homebuilthelp.com
>> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;
">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;
">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com
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Group,
Personally, I do not like to see shotgun approach to selling parts on the list.
I do not mind seeing someone saying, I have parts
for sale, contact me off list.
Or someone who has developed a new product for our aircraft.
But then I also get tired of seeing post with "I agree with you".
Those should be sent to the individual email address.
Laterrrrrrr
John Fischer
California City, CA
At 11:47 AM 11/6/2009, you wrote:
>
>I agree with Eric. We're all in this together and if someone has a
>service or product that would be of value to a CJ or YAK owner, it's
>clearly something worthwhile to know about. This is such a specialized
>and small part of the aviation community, I think that anything posted
>about these airplanes is worth seeing. And to be made to go to a
>separate list for this would, at the very least dilute the forum and
>more than likely be a complete waste of time. If Doug, with his unique
>experience that can serve as filter for the rest of us, says that xyz
>fuel totalizer works great for the CJ, that's something worth knowing.
>
>Warren Hill
>N867PA
>
>On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Eric Wobschall wrote:
>
>>Personally, I think that we're all so specialized here in the Yak /
>>CJ thread that we're probably all interested in pretty much
>>everything that's commercially available in this category. I'm
>>interested in both (tips and parts) and would prefer to not have
>>look in two places. Of course repetitive stuff is a no-no, and it
>>wouldn't work if it gets out of hand. If it gets posted once and
>>someone misses it, others will clue him or her in. I think it works
>>OK as it is.
>>
>>-Eric N52EW
>>
>>
>>On Nov 6, 2009, at 11:51 AM, David McGirt wrote:
>>
>>>Just a suggestion
>>>
>>>Create a thread dedicated to the commercial guys. They and ONLY
>>>they post on this thread their contact info, parts available,
>>>etc. That way everyone can delete or search for that thread as
>>>needed. The key would be NOONE Else posting in that thread..
>>>
>>>Just a thought..
>>>
>>>David McGirt
>>>Yak52 TW
>>>
>>>
>>>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>>>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Lou
>>>Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:56 AM
>>>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
>>>
>>>Gentlemen of the Yaklist (Nanchang list)
>>>
>>>When I started to restore my cj6a 12 years ago and paid $1100 to
>>>get a part made that now retails for less than $100 Doug in usa
>>>Walt in canada and some others, I found these blokes on the red
>>>star pilots association as it was then called was a great help to
>>>me as I didn't know who would support these wonderful aircraft, to
>>>stop these blokes for advertising on the yak list what they have in
>>>stock is far more damaging then not having them advertise, very
>>>easy to hit the delete button if you want don't want to read the
>>>mail, I live in Australia which is a lot closer to china than you
>>>blokes and I have had parts supplied from Doug and others at very
>>>reasonable prices I think of us as a community of friends with a
>>>common interest so don't stuff up a good list.
>>>Ps I have made a new friend in North Carolina because of this list.
>>>
>>>Regards Lou
>>>From: Frank
>>>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>>Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:59 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sell it with discretion
>>>
>>>Richard
>>>As to commercial activities on this list.....................
>>>Seems to me things are going along great with the list the way it
>>>is. People let people know about their products. A limited,
>>>targeted, special interest type commercial activity isn't a problem
>>>until it becomes spam (read that to mean repeated postings to where
>>>people get sick of it). Let people know what you got but don't make
>>>a nuisance of yourself with "advertising like" activities. I think
>>>that is the secret to a list like this. Most people want to know
>>>what's available out there but if it's pounded into their heads
>>>like a commercial it won't go over too well.
>>>Frank
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Richard Goode
>>>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>>Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:55 AM
>>>Subject: Yak-List: Commerce
>>>
>>>It has never been clear to me what the position of the list is in
>>>relation to commercial activities. On one hand I have seen that
>>>it is supposed to be a forum for exchange of ideas etc, and NOT for
>>>anything commercial, but on the other hand I see blatantly
>>>commercial postings.
>>>
>>>Clearly I am myself in the Yak business, although fortunately do
>>>not have to live totally from it, but it does seem to me that there
>>>is a need for a "commercial" Yak list, where people can post
>>>products; aircraft; components etc.
>>>
>>>I have no idea what people generally think of this - is it a good
>>>idea?
>>>
>>>Richard Goode Aerobatics
>>>Rhodds Farm
>>>Lyonshall
>>>Herefordshire
>>>HR5 3LW
>>>United Kingdom
>>>
>>>Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340 120
>>>Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340 129
>>>www.russianaeros.com
>>>
>>>
>>>href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
>>>href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
>>>href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
>>>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref=
>>>"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>>href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
>>>href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
>>>href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
>>>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref=
>>>"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>>href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>www.aeroelectric.com
>>>www.buildersbooks.com
>>>www.homebuilthelp.com
>>>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>>http://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;
>>>">www.aeroelectric.com
>>>href="http://www.buildersbooks.com"
>>>style="color: blue; text- decoration: underline; ">www.buildersbooks.com
>>>style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.homebuilthelp.com
>>>style="color: blue; text-decoration:
>>>underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>style="color: blue; text-decoration:
>>>underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>>blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ. |
Well.alrighty then.don't call Pappy.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ.
But Pappy has an M14 and not the original Housai 285.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D. <mailto:viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:41 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ.
Jon,
Give Pappy a call. He has a B&C in his CJ.
doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ.
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
I would suggest calling the owner of B&C himself. He is a terrific
person, DEDICATED to making a great product and knows these issues like
the back of his hand. If you do, please tell him I said hello and wish
him well. I strongly believe in this mans products and would purchase
anything he sells without hesitation.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jblake207@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:13 PM
Subject: Yak-List: B&C alternator conversion on a stock CJ.
Does anyone out there have any advice on installing the B&C alternator
on a stock CJ? I ask because I'm hearing a couple different things
about adaptor plates, oil seals, special gears, etc. I've ordered the
alternator and VR from B&C, an adaptor plate from Doug Sapp, but would
really like to hear from someone who has been there and done that just
to make sure we aren't missing something. Please contact off list at
jblake207@comcast.net <mailto:jblake207@comcast.net> or voice
334-791-5690. Thanks, -- Please Support Your Lists This Month (And Get the
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As a bit of an outsider by putting a Huosai engine in a homebuilt, my
comments might be
taken as a bit obscure, but generally I think the list is pretty much of
good value "AS IS " ,
to the majority of the audience. Every time the Sapp's , Saverese's et
al post something,
there's good advice and a legit direction to get your stuff up and
flying again with the least
amount of downtime. The Overseas input is good too and it helps to keep
a broader view
of this nice little world we live in. I'd say leave things alone. Two
lists vying for the same
audience might shortly evolve into double posts anyway....who needs
that ?
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
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