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1. 06:27 AM - Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue (Craig Winkelmann)
2. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue (T A LEWIS)
5. 07:22 AM - Re: Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue (A. Dennis Savarese)
6. 01:23 PM - SNF 2010 (Cpayne)
7. 02:28 PM - Re: SNF 2010 (Roger Kemp M.D.)
8. 02:51 PM - Re: SNF 2010 (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
9. 03:04 PM - Re: SNF 2010 (jetj01@aol.com)
10. 04:51 PM - Re:SNF 2010 (Cpayne)
11. 05:03 PM - Re: Re:SNF 2010 (jetj01@aol.com)
12. 06:25 PM - Re: SNF 2010 (Paul Hamlin)
13. 08:02 PM - Re: SNF 2010 (Roger Kemp M.D.)
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue |
NOT automotive plugs. I was thinking there may be a coil issue where internal
resistance goes up as they heat.
Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue |
The coil issue with these mags is typically caused by the internal
capacitor breaking down, not the coil itself.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Winkelmann
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:27 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue
NOT automotive plugs. I was thinking there may be a coil issue where
internal resistance goes up as they heat.
Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue |
The capacitor is inside the coil. I should have made that a little more
clear.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue
The coil issue with these mags is typically caused by the internal
capacitor breaking down, not the coil itself.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Winkelmann
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:27 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue
<capav8r@gmail.com>
NOT automotive plugs. I was thinking there may be a coil issue
where internal resistance goes up as they heat.
Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue |
Dennis do you know the value of the capacitor ?=0ATerry Lewis=0A=0A=0A=0A
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=0AThe capacitor is inside the coil.- I should have made that a-little
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue |
Sorry, I do not. Check with Jill. I think M14P, Inc has come up with
an external capacitor. But I'm not 100% certain.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: T A LEWIS
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue
Dennis do you know the value of the capacitor ?
Terry Lewis
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From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 9:43:13 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue
The capacitor is inside the coil. I should have made that a little
more clear.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue
The coil issue with these mags is typically caused by the internal
capacitor breaking down, not the coil itself.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Winkelmann
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:27 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-52/M-14P Magneto Issue
<capav8r@gmail.com>
NOT automotive plugs. I was thinking there may be a coil issue
where internal resistance goes up as they heat.
Craig
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Last year's Sun 'n Fun attendees may recall the total mess caused by ash from a
recent burning: clouds of black soot with every startup. Even driving a car over
the surface raised a black cloud that stuck to everything.As I discovered
today, there still is ash inside my airplane, under the cockpit area.
When hopefully, it will be different this year. Today the grass was burned, as
it usually is in January. The grass should be more hospitable. On Thursday through
Sunday of the event, the Thunderbirds will be back.
For us (ex) Green and Navy Blue suiters, it's them guys with the airplanes that
can't touch an F-18. You know, the guys that don't get the concept of a "short
field". Squat to Piss; Flare to Land....:>)
Craig Payne
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Craig,
I just depends on where you see the pipper. On the back of your head if you are
an 18 driver or through the HUD if you are a Viper driver.
Doc
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cpayne
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:19 PM
Subject: Yak-List: SNF 2010
Last year's Sun 'n Fun attendees may recall the total mess caused by ash from a
recent burning: clouds of black soot with every startup. Even driving a car over
the surface raised a black cloud that stuck to everything.As I discovered
today, there still is ash inside my airplane, under the cockpit area.
When hopefully, it will be different this year. Today the grass was burned, as
it usually is in January. The grass should be more hospitable. On Thursday through
Sunday of the event, the Thunderbirds will be back.
For us (ex) Green and Navy Blue suiters, it's them guys with the airplanes that
can't touch an F-18. You know, the guys that don't get the concept of a "short
field". Squat to Piss; Flare to Land....:>)
Craig Payne
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DOC DOC.... I AGREE!
What you say does indeed happen all the time ... At least on the Flight
Line. We ALWAYS park you guys in back!
It's only fair to give USAF pilots at least one chance in life to see
the Hornet from that perspective.
Couple that with pilots that think a "hook" is something to hang your
clothes from, and the outcome is 100% predictable.
Next comes politics and gun control.
Have a nice day,
Bad Bullets... OUT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: SNF 2010
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Craig,
I just depends on where you see the pipper. On the back of your head if
you are an 18 driver or through the HUD if you are a Viper driver.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cpayne
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:19 PM
Subject: Yak-List: SNF 2010
Last year's Sun 'n Fun attendees may recall the total mess caused by ash
from a recent burning: clouds of black soot with every startup. Even
driving a car over the surface raised a black cloud that stuck to
everything.As I discovered today, there still is ash inside my airplane,
under the cockpit area.
When hopefully, it will be different this year. Today the grass was
burned, as it usually is in January. The grass should be more
hospitable. On Thursday through Sunday of the event, the Thunderbirds
will be back.
For us (ex) Green and Navy Blue suiters, it's them guys with the
airplanes tha can't touch an F-18. You know, the guys that don't get the
concept of a "short field". Squat to Piss; Flare to Land....:>)
Craig Payne
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The only scenario I'd rather be in a Hornet rather than a Viper is landing
on boat, hook and all. For an air to air knife fight, unless you are
dumb enough to get slow (The Hornets game), a Viper will win every time. A
Hornet is a compromise between the needs of the aviator and the need to land
on a boat. That's from personal experience. Sorry.
P.S. Another exception, if I'm over the pond and lose an engine, I'd
rather be in a Hornet!
Jj
In a message dated 1/13/2010 4:51:48 P.M. Central Standard Time,
mark.bitterlich@navy.mil writes:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
DOC DOC.... I AGREE!
What you say does indeed happen all the time ... At least on the Flight
Line. We ALWAYS park you guys in back!
It's only fair to give USAF pilots at least one chance in life to see
the Hornet from that perspective.
Couple that with pilots that think a "hook" is something to hang your
clothes from, and the outcome is 100% predictable.
Next comes politics and gun control.
Have a nice day,
Bad Bullets... OUT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: SNF 2010
--> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Craig,
I just depends on where you see the pipper. On the back of your head if
you are an 18 driver or through the HUD if you are a Viper driver.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cpayne
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:19 PM
Subject: Yak-List: SNF 2010
--> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com>
Last year's Sun 'n Fun attendees may recall the total mess caused by ash
from a recent burning: clouds of black soot with every startup. Even
driving a car over the surface raised a black cloud that stuck to
everything.As I discovered today, there still is ash inside my airplane,
under the cockpit area.
When hopefully, it will be different this year. Today the grass was
burned, as it usually is in January. The grass should be more
hospitable. On Thursday through Sunday of the event, the Thunderbirds
will be back.
For us (ex) Green and Navy Blue suiters, it's them guys with the
airplanes tha can't touch an F-18. You know, the guys that don't get the
concept of a "short field". Squat to Piss; Flare to Land....:>)
Craig Payne
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Well alrighty now! The usual suspects rose and took the bait. Am I wrong in saying
that in Red Flag competition, it has really been Canadian pilots and the CF-18
that has kicked butt??
What is this "Viper" crap. I believe that the pentagon refers to these F-16 assets
as the "Fighting Falcon". As all of us vets know, the Pentagon is Never Wrong.
Kinda like the Fonz in Happy Days.
Craig Payne
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Shame shame Craig, you mentioned the P word and fighting type airplanes in
the same sentence. No soup for you, one year! As a non-vol staff weenie
P word veteran (I should have got combat pay there!), I pretend it never
happened and was thankful to escape back to the cockpit and another 2000
hours....thank God! And you bring up our friends to the North???? Great
warriors but woefully under funded with archaic equipment.
Jj
In a message dated 1/13/2010 6:51:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,
cpayne@joimail.com writes:
--> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com>
Well alrighty now! The usual suspects rose and took the bait. Am I wrong
in saying that in Red Flag competition, it has really been Canadian pilots
and the CF-18 that has kicked butt??
What is this "Viper" crap. I believe that the pentagon refers to these
F-16 assets as the "Fighting Falcon". As all of us vets know, the Pentagon is
Never Wrong. Kinda like the Fonz in Happy Days.
Craig Payne
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Assuming you survive to even get to the merge.-
--- On Wed, 1/13/10, jetj01@aol.com <jetj01@aol.com> wrote:
From: jetj01@aol.com <jetj01@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: SNF 2010
The only scenario I'd rather be in a Hornet rather than a Viper is landing
on- boat, hook and all.- For an air to air knife fight, unless you are
dumb enough to get slow (The Hornets game), a Viper will win every time.-
A Hornet is a compromise between the needs of the aviator and the need to
land on a boat.- That's from personal experience.- Sorry.
-
P.S.- Another exception, if I'm over the pond and lose an engine, I'd rat
her be in a Hornet!
-
Jj
-
In a message dated 1/13/2010 4:51:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, mark.bitte
rlich@navy.mil writes:
ALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
DOC DOC.... I AGREE!-
What you say does indeed happen all the time ... At least on the Flight
Line.- - We ALWAYS park you guys in back!-
It's only fair to give USAF pilots at least one chance in life to see
the Hornet from that perspective.-
Couple that with pilots that think a "hook" is something to hang your
clothes from, and the outcome is 100% predictable.-
Next comes politics and gun control.-
Have a nice day,
Bad Bullets... OUT-
--
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: SNF 2010
--> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Craig,
I just depends on where you see the pipper. On the back of your head if
you are an 18 driver or through the HUD if you are a Viper driver.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cpayne
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:19 PM
Subject: Yak-List: SNF 2010
Last year's Sun 'n Fun attendees may recall the total mess caused by ash
from a recent burning: clouds of black soot with every startup. Even
driving a car over the surface raised a black cloud that stuck to
everything.As I discovered today, there still is ash inside my airplane,
under the cockpit area.
When hopefully, it will be different this year. Today the grass was
burned, as it usually is in January. The grass should be more
hospitable. On Thursday through Sunday of the event, the Thunderbirds
will be back.
For us (ex) Green and Navy Blue suiters, it's them guys with the
airplanes tha can't touch an F-18. You know, the guys that don't get the
concept of a "short field". Squat to Piss; Flare to Land....:>)
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Trash,
You date yourself. We have a radar that can reach out and find you as well
as AMRAMS to make for a truly bad BVR day not to mention the newest AiM 9
for that sort of up close and personal moment. All of which I would not want
to be on the receiving end of.
Now as for the knife fight in the phone booth with our big mouths to feed
that big 220 end result is generally not to satisfying for the opponent.
But the real question is if you maintain your smash, can see and kill BVR
then why get in the phone booth where 180 deg of turn makes your fight the
focus of someone else's attention?
Why is the F-16 called the Viper? Just because Gen Creech said he would not
have one of his two premier fighters named after a "damned snake" does not
mean that she would not be nicknamed Viper for that "damned snake." Viper
was the overwhelming choice for her by the fighter community at the time. It
was Creech that over-ruled the overwhelming choice of the fighter squadrons.
So, as one of the original Viper babies, we showed him. She is still
affectionately known as the "Viper. Fighting Falcon is the official Gen
Creech AF name but Viper is her real name.
That Is my story and I'm sticking to it my "jarhead" friend.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hamlin
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: SNF 2010
Assuming you survive to even get to the merge.
--- On Wed, 1/13/10, jetj01@aol.com <jetj01@aol.com> wrote:
From: jetj01@aol.com <jetj01@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: SNF 2010
The only scenario I'd rather be in a Hornet rather than a Viper is landing
on boat, hook and all. For an air to air knife fight, unless you are dumb
enough to get slow (The Hornets game), a Viper will win every time. A
Hornet is a compromise between the needs of the aviator and the need to land
on a boat. That's from personal experience. Sorry.
P.S. Another exception, if I'm over the pond and lose an engine, I'd rather
be in a Hornet!
Jj
In a message dated 1/13/2010 4:51:48 P.M. Central Standard Time,
mark.bitterlich@navy.mil writes:
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
DOC DOC.... I AGREE!
What you say does indeed happen all the time ... At least on the Flight
Line. We ALWAYS park you guys in back!
It's only fair to give USAF pilots at least one chance in life to see
the Hornet from that perspective.
Couple that with pilots that think a "hook" is something to hang your
clothes from, and the outcome is 100% predictable.
Next comes politics and gun control.
Have a nice day,
Bad Bullets... OUT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: SNF 2010
--> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Craig,
I just depends on where you see the pipper. On the back of your head if
you are an 18 driver or through the HUD if you are a Viper driver.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cpayne
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:19 PM
Subject: Yak-List: SNF 2010
Last year's Sun 'n Fun attendees may recall the total mess caused by ash
from a recent burning: clouds of black soot with every startup. Even
driving a car over the surface raised a black cloud that stuck to
everything.As I discovered today, there still is ash inside my airplane,
under the cockpit area.
When hopefully, it will be different this year. Today the grass was
burned, as it usually is in January. The grass should be more
hospitable. On Thursday through Sunday of the event, the Thunderbirds
will be back.
For us (ex) Green and Navy Blue suiters, it's them guys with the
airplanes tha can't touch an F-18. You know, the guys that don't get the
concept of a "short field". Squat to Piss; Flare to Land....:>)
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