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1. 09:15 AM - Re: M14 P Problem (Francois Davel)
2. 09:48 AM - Re: Fw: M14 P Problem (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
3. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: M14 P Problem (cjpilot710@aol.com)
4. 10:52 AM - M14 P problems oil shutoff valve (cjpilot710@aol.com)
5. 11:04 AM - Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve (doug sapp)
6. 11:04 AM - Re: Oil Shut Off Valves Availible (vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
7. 11:32 AM - Re: Re: Oil Shut Off Valves Availible (Byron Fox)
8. 11:34 AM - Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve (David McGirt)
9. 11:48 AM - Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve (Terry Calloway)
10. 02:58 PM - Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve (Chris Wise)
11. 04:45 PM - To all those that think they are mechanics I offer this! (vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
12. 04:50 PM - Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve (cjpilot710@aol.com)
13. 05:09 PM - Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve (doug sapp)
14. 06:03 PM - Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve (Chris Wise)
15. 08:32 PM - CJ Nose landing gear brace (keithmckinley)
16. 09:02 PM - Re: To all those that think they are mechanics I offer this! (keithmckinley)
17. 09:03 PM - Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve (Roger Kemp M.D.)
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| Subject: | Re: M14 P Problem |
This problem was one I reported to Ivor and he kindly got onto this list.
Just as an update, there was no oil that come out after the engine tried to start
from of any cylinders....so would this still constitute a hydro lock?
I am getting a boroscope tomorrow and looking inside the pots. also I will be checking
the position of the pistons in the bores, to see if one is very low or
not.
Any other good ideas?
Cheers
Francois
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| Subject: | Fw: M14 P Problem |
Is this available as a kit?
Mark
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fw: M14 P Problem
The system that Mark describe is what I have. Basically, its an
electric shut-off valve right at the base of the oil tank. The
electrical circuit for the starter air solenoid is opened or closed by
the actual position of the valve -not power to the valve motor. When
the valve is open - the starter works - when valve is close the starter
don't. HOWEVER YOU CAN CLOSE THE VALVE WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING! Now
this can be a good thing too believe it or not. On a normal engine
shutdown - you run the RPM up to 1900 for some 20 seconds (I think
that's what the book says) to purge the engine. What I do and done for
hundreds of hours now, is take the RPMs up - after 20 seconds or so, I
CLOSE the oil tank valve. I than reduce throttle, and watch for an oil
pressure drop. The engine is at idle and when the pressure hits zero, I
switch off the mags. I believe this has truly purged the engine. I
know get I ZERO oil on the hangar floor. Oh I still pull through before
every start, but I've never had a lock-up (knock on wood) on this
engine. And unless my oil gage is stuck, my oil pressure has not
changed for some 1,500 hours. This switch has a guard on it and is a 2
position switch. If the guard is down, than the switch is in the valve
open position. The switch can only be moved to the closed position if
you raise the guard up. Drop the guard the switch goes to the valve
open position.
Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago. There are some other
drawbacks that can happen in odd ball situations. Like you have a dead
battery but plenty of air pressure. You can start the engine by
manually opening the start air valve. OK but you need to have that oil
tank open too. On my system there is a manual level also on the oil
valve.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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| Subject: | Re: M14 P Problem |
Francois,
I don't how good a bore scope may work for you. Off the top of my head I
can't see how you might be able to see the bottom of all the cylinder ski
rts. Measure the distance or which piston is down the further est is a
good idea. If that piston has dropped far enough that the scraper ring
has gone below the cylinder skirt and hung up the engine, you may need on
ly to remove that cylinder to free up the engine. You can check the rod
at that time HOWEVER most likely if the piston has dropped that low to be
gan with, the rod is mostly likely bent. At least you'll be able to see
just what problem you have. Plus you'll be able to check the rest of the
cylinder skirt too. Remember the master rod is on #4 cylinder. Major
problem if it is bent. Because most master rods are more "beefy" its usu
ally one of the other rods. If one of the other rods, you may only need
to replace it, still not the easy est job in the world.
Good luck
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Francois Davel <fdavel@senninger.com>
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 12:14 pm
Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14 P Problem
This problem was one I reported to Ivor and he kindly got onto this list.
Just as an update, there was no oil that come out after the engine tried
to
tart from of any cylinders....so would this still constitute a hydro lock?
I am getting a boroscope tomorrow and looking inside the pots. also I will
be
hecking the position of the pistons in the bores, to see if one is very lo
w or
ot.
Any other good ideas?
Cheers
Francois
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| Subject: | M14 P problems oil shutoff valve |
Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the first or
second guy to get it. The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37 Mojave helicop
ter. This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted on each side. "A
flying transmission system built for failure". These valves were used fo
r the same purpose. Evidently Bill picked these up from Davis-Monthum.
I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlic
h@navy.mil>
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 12:47 pm
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fw: M14 P Problem
ALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Is this available as a kit?
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve |
Yes, Bill Blackwell offers this system as a kit. Bill's Ph 623-703-1001
Doug
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the first or
> second guy to get it. The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37
> Mojave helicopter. This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted on each
> side. "A flying transmission system built for failure". These valves were
> used for the same purpose. Evidently Bill picked these up from
> Davis-Monthum.
>
> I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <
> mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 12:47 pm
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fw: M14 P Problem
>
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Is this available as a kit?
>
> Mark
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Maybe life is not the party that we were expecting,
but in the mean time, we're here, the band is playing, so we may as well
dance....."
Douglas Sapp
Doug Sapp LLC
18B Riverview Road
Omak WA 98841
PH 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Shut Off Valves Availible |
We have both electric and manual oil shut off valves available and have
had for years.
They are the safest and easiest way to help prevent hyd lock for radial en
gines. Anyone without one is taking a huge chance. The valve simply won'
t let the oil in the oil tank gravity feed down into the engine. This doe
s not mean you can forgot the prop pull through but in over six years I ha
ve never once had oil in the cylinders after installing the valve.
Anyone interested in these valves, either electric or manual, please conta
ct us off list at: vectorwarbirds@aol.com
Thanks and happy flying!
TGB
-----Original Message-----
From: cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 11:50 am
Subject: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the first or
second guy to get it. The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37 Mojave helicop
ter. This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted on each side. "A
flying transmission system built for failure". These valves were used fo
r the same purpose. Evidently Bill picked these up from Davis-Monthum.
I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlic
h@navy.mil>
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 12:47 pm
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fw: M14 P Problem
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Is this available as a kit?
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Shut Off Valves Availible |
Vector, your email address is not functioning. Says your away.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:03 AM, vectorwarbirds@aol.com wrote:
> We have both electric and manual oil shut off valves available and
> have had for years.
>
> They are the safest and easiest way to help prevent hyd lock for
> radial engines. Anyone without one is taking a huge chance. The
> valve simply won't let the oil in the oil tank gravity feed down
> into the engine. This does not mean you can forgot the prop pull
> through but in over six years I have never once had oil in the
> cylinders after installing the valve.
>
> Anyone interested in these valves, either electric or manual, please
> contact us off list at: vectorwarbirds@aol.com
>
> Thanks and happy flying!
>
> TGB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cjpilot710@aol.com
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 11:50 am
> Subject: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
>
>
> Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the
> first or second guy to get it. The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37
> Mojave helicopter. This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted
> on each side. "A flying transmission system built for failure".
> These valves were used for the same purpose. Evidently Bill picked
> these up from Davis-Monthum.
>
> I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil
> >
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 12:47 pm
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fw: M14 P Problem
>
> Point,
>
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
>
> Is this available as a kit?
>
>
> Mark
>
>
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| Subject: | M14 P problems oil shutoff valve |
I agree with the oil shutoff. I have the manual valve from Kimball
Enterprises, it has the extra value of a switch that you can tie to your
starter button. If the oil is STILL shutoff, you cannot start.. I have
proven this is important.. J
http://www.jimkimballenterprises.com/web/m14p.php
Does not matter who , just get one in my opinion..
David McGirt
Yak52 TW
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
Yes, Bill Blackwell offers this system as a kit. Bill's Ph 623-703-1001
Doug
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the first or
second guy to get it. The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37 Mojave
helicopter. This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted on each side.
"A flying transmission system built for failure". These valves were used
for the same purpose. Evidently Bill picked these up from Davis-Monthum.
I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 12:47 pm
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fw: M14 P Problem
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Is this available as a kit?
Mark
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--
Maybe life is not the party that we were expecting,
but in the mean time, we're here, the band is playing, so we may as well
dance....."
Douglas Sapp
Doug Sapp LLC
18B Riverview Road
Omak WA 98841
PH 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
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| Subject: | Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve |
Kevin Kimball has a kit also. As I installed on my M14.
His number is (407) 889-3451
Pumper
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 19, 2010, at 1:04 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, Bill Blackwell offers this system as a kit. Bill's Ph 623-703-1001
>
> Doug
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the
> first or second guy to get it. The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37
> Mojave helicopter. This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted
> on each side. "A flying transmission system built for failure".
> These valves were used for the same purpose. Evidently Bill picked
> these up from Davis-Monthum.
>
> I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil
> >
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 12:47 pm
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fw: M14 P Problem
>
> Point,
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Is this available as a kit?
>
> Mark
>
>
> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
> --
> Maybe life is not the party that we were expecting,
> but in the mean time, we're here, the band is playing, so we may as
> well dance....."
> Douglas Sapp
> Doug Sapp LLC
> 18B Riverview Road
> Omak WA 98841
> PH 509-826-4610
> Fax 509-826-3644
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve |
G'Day Jim,
Can you please send me Bill's email address off-list.
wise@txc.net.au
As I am in Australia it may be easier to communicate via email.
Thanks and cheers,
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
Yes, Bill Blackwell offers this system as a kit. Bill's Ph
623-703-1001
Doug
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the
first or second guy to get it. The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37
Mojave helicopter. This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted on
each side. "A flying transmission system built for failure". These
valves were used for the same purpose. Evidently Bill picked these up
from Davis-Monthum.
I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 12:47 pm
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fw: M14 P Problem
Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Is this available as a kit?
Mark
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Maybe life is not the party that we were expecting,
but in the mean time, we're here, the band is playing, so we may as
well dance....."
Douglas Sapp
Doug Sapp LLC
18B Riverview Road
Omak WA 98841
PH 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
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| Subject: | To all those that think they are mechanics I offer this! |
Many have asked me over the years "Is it easy to install?" That my flyin
g friends is subjective! I offer this picture of something that to this
guy was easy to install. You will notice not only the ground down Nancha
ng fitting to fit the God knows what hose but also the cheap brass hose fe
rrules and some kind of what I think is tractor hose. "Hey if its good en
ough for John Deere its good enough for a Chinese airplane!" This was the
main oil hose from the tank to the engine. This is but one of many, many
things I have seen over the years done by so called 'mecankics'.
Let me remind you it does not matter what kind or where the aircraft was
manufactured, all that matters is that its your ass up there in the air!
No I shall not mention the name of the said 'mecankic' and as you can see
I have blocked off his name to protect the guilty.
Cheers and safe flying!
TGB
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| Subject: | Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve |
Chris,
I don't have that, Maybe some else here on the list does?
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Wise <wise@txc.net.au>
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
G'Day Jim,
Can you please send me Bill's email address off-list.
wise@txc.net.au
As I am in Australia it may be easier to communicate via email.
Thanks and cheers,
Chris.
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From: doug sapp
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
Yes, Bill Blackwell offers this system as a kit. Bill's Ph 623-703-1001
Doug
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the first or
second guy to get it. The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37 Mojave helicop
ter. This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted on each side. "A
flying transmission system built for failure". These valves were used fo
r the same purpose. Evidently Bill picked these up from Davis-Monthum.
I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlic
h@navy.mil>
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 12:47 pm
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fw: M14 P Problem
ALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Is this available as a kit?
Mark
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18B Riverview Road
Omak WA 98841
PH 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
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| Subject: | Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve |
Bill Blackwell, bill@blackwellredstar.com
Doug
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Chris,
>
> I don't have that, Maybe some else here on the list does?
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Wise <wise@txc.net.au>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 5:55 pm
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
>
> G'Day Jim,
>
> Can you please send me Bill's email address off-list.
>
> wise@txc.net.au
>
> As I am in Australia it may be easier to communicate via email.
>
> Thanks and cheers,
> Chris.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:34 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
>
> Yes, Bill Blackwell offers this system as a kit. Bill's Ph 623-703-1001
>
> Doug
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the first or
>> second guy to get it. The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37
>> Mojave helicopter. This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted on each
>> side. "A flying transmission system built for failure". These valves were
>> used for the same purpose. Evidently Bill picked these up from
>> Davis-Monthum.
>>
>> I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.
>>
>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <
>> mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 12:47 pm
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fw: M14 P Problem
>>
>> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>>
>> Is this available as a kit?
>>
>> Mark
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> dance....."
> Douglas Sapp
> Doug Sapp LLC
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| Subject: | Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve |
Thanks Doug,
Kind regards,
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
Bill Blackwell, bill@blackwellredstar.com
Doug
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
Chris,
I don't have that, Maybe some else here on the list does?
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Wise <wise@txc.net.au>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
G'Day Jim,
Can you please send me Bill's email address off-list.
wise@txc.net.au
As I am in Australia it may be easier to communicate via email.
Thanks and cheers,
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
Yes, Bill Blackwell offers this system as a kit. Bill's Ph
623-703-1001
Doug
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the
first or second guy to get it. The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37
Mojave helicopter. This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted on
each side. "A flying transmission system built for failure". These
valves were used for the same purpose. Evidently Bill picked these up
from Davis-Monthum.
I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 12:47 pm
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fw: M14 P Problem
Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Is this available as a kit?
Mark
et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
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--
Maybe life is not the party that we were expecting,
but in the mean time, we're here, the band is playing, so we may
as well dance....."
Douglas Sapp
Doug Sapp LLC
18B Riverview Road
Omak WA 98841
PH 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics
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but in the mean time, we're here, the band is playing, so we may as
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18B Riverview Road
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PH 509-826-4610
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| Subject: | CJ Nose landing gear brace |
Looking at the repair manual I'm not sure if I'm reading the tolerance correctly
on the nose gear brace.
I've just replaced my NG actuator and with the actuator locked at full extension
with no air pressure on the actuator I believe I saw that the brace should be
5mm from the fully locked position.
I'm sure this is so that the brace isn't over extended and bent.
Now I can't find that number specifically as it applies to adjusting the actuator
length.
Have gone through the PT-6 repair manual several times. Still looking for more
definitive number.
Keith
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700HS
KFIT
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The safety wire is a nice touch.
K
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| Subject: | M14 P problems oil shutoff valve |
Anyone have pictures of Doug's system and Jim Kimbel's system?
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wise
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
Thanks Doug,
Kind regards,
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp <mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
Bill Blackwell, bill@blackwellredstar.com
Doug
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
Chris,
I don't have that, Maybe some else here on the list does?
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Wise <wise@txc.net.au>
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
G'Day Jim,
Can you please send me Bill's email address off-list.
wise@txc.net.au
As I am in Australia it may be easier to communicate via email.
Thanks and cheers,
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp <mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve
Yes, Bill Blackwell offers this system as a kit. Bill's Ph 623-703-1001
Doug
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the first or
second guy to get it. The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37 Mojave
helicopter. This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted on each side.
"A flying transmission system built for failure". These valves were used
for the same purpose. Evidently Bill picked these up from Davis-Monthum.
I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 12:47 pm
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fw: M14 P Problem
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Is this available as a kit?
Mark
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Maybe life is not the party that we were expecting,
but in the mean time, we're here, the band is playing, so we may as well
dance....."
Douglas Sapp
Doug Sapp LLC
18B Riverview Road
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