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1. 03:19 AM - Re: Fw: Major accident avoided (Tim Gagnon)
2. 06:45 AM - Major accident avoided (cjpilot710@aol.com)
3. 06:45 AM - Re: : Major accident avoided (Valerie Walker)
4. 08:58 AM - ****** CJ-6 REAR CANOPY ******* (defender)
5. 09:10 AM - Re: ****** CJ-6 REAR CANOPY ******* (doug sapp)
6. 10:44 AM - BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
7. 11:32 AM - Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE (Tim Gagnon)
8. 12:09 PM - Re: Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
9. 12:51 PM - CJ Picture (jblake207@comcast.net)
10. 01:50 PM - Re: Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE (Mark Davis)
11. 11:47 PM - Re: Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE (Jan Mevis)
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Major accident avoided |
While it is primarily the controllers fault, the other two aircraft should have
been paying closer attention as well. Poor situational awareness on the RJ and
Pilatus' part.
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Major accident avoided |
I do not disagree. SA is so important in all aspects of flight and at all
times. Once you expect and accept an intersection takeoff, you should be
very cognizant at what's happening at the end of the runway. Pardon the
pun but a red flag should go up. Busy airport, everyone is in a hurry,
the RJ and Pilatus are rushing ( you can tell that just in the tone and
cadence of their transmissions) however the tower is at fault. If you've
been in a number of busy towers cabs, you know there is a lot of things
going on around a controller that can cause distractions. A career (the
controller's) is most likely shot to hell for a good while. And a bunch
of paxs have had the piss scared out of them.
The PAA/SAS accident is a classic in all the things that can go wrong at
an airport. Vick Grubbs and Roy Butler were good friends whom I flew wit
h a great deal before and after that day. This incident has all those mak
eings.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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| Subject: | Re: : Major accident avoided |
After 30 years of commercial flying and several controller "malfunctions",
I'd say they're excellent 98% of the time. enough to lull a pilot into a
sense of complacency. Always listen to what's happening in your situational
awareness field and keep a running visual of that in your head. It's saved
me (and the controller's job) several times. Trust, but verify and "Whew!"
Great graphics and thanks for reminding us.
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| Subject: | ****** CJ-6 REAR CANOPY ******* |
Looking for a used CJ-6 rear canopy, intact and in good condition, no cracks in
plexi-glass or bent structure.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286152#286152
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| Subject: | Re: ****** CJ-6 REAR CANOPY ******* |
Ron,
I have them in stock, new, used, slightly abused. Contact me off list @
509-826-4610
Doug
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:58 AM, defender <ronbuonomo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Looking for a used CJ-6 rear canopy, intact and in good condition, no
> cracks in plexi-glass or bent structure.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286152#286152
>
>
--
Maybe life is not the party that we were expecting,
but in the mean time, we're here, the band is playing, so we may as well
dance....."
Douglas Sapp
Doug Sapp LLC
18B Riverview Road
Omak WA 98841
PH 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
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| Subject: | BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE |
Folks, this ad is being placed for a friend. NO, it is not a YAK, but let's say
it is a powerful cousin! I've seen the airplane and can verify that it is
one very hot rod son of a gun. Not for the faint of heart, and definitely for
someone who wants the best of the best. For those of you (us) who think that
the YAK-50 is unbeatable in a dog-fight .... ummm.... you might want to rethink
that after you see this thing fly.
Mark Bitterlich
For Sale: Sukhoi Super Su-26. Euro 179,000/$249,000USD. Winner2007 World Aerobatic
Championships 4 Minute Freestyle. Best performing Sukhoi in the World. 435hp
M9F engine w/ MTV-9-260 wide chord prop - both 65TTSN. Large oil cooler and
additional, larger cowling cooling fins. Cockpit oil cooler door control. Su-31
wide chord rudder and fin. Lightweight B&C electrical. Cockpit water drain.
Halon system. 40litre (10 gal) fuselage tank (smoke or fuel). Belly tank quick
release. Fuel capacity 320 litres/84 gals/5.5+hrs. Cold air induction. Microair
VHF/Transponder/Mode C. Outstanding paint. Built to spec for 15 year Sukhoi
owner/US Team member under supervision of Sukhoi chief engineer. Located in
NC, USA.
Call Hubie Tolson
252-670-9370
Watch the Super 26 Perform: You can see the performance of the Super 26 in my 4 Minute Freestyle flight over the Silverstone Raceway at the World Aerobatic Championships in England last summer at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJVng4toD8 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJVng4toD8>
Note the outstanding paint scheme, and how well it shows for both competition and
air show work, along with the large area on the wings for those eager sponsors'
logos!
You can watch the in-cockpit antics of that same freestyle flight at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9xXikFytnI <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9xXikFytnI>
More Details: After the 2009 World Championship, the Super 26 was shipped to NC.
It was assembled and fully inspected by Rich Hamilton and Chris Rudd over several
days in December. Rich Hamilton was the long time chief of maintenance for
Pompano Air Center, the original distributor of Sukhoi airplanes in the Americas
from the beginning. He has assembled, inspected and maintained most of
the Sukhois which exist in the USA, and is an expert in every respect. The next
conditional inspection will be due in January of 2011. If you would like to
speak Rich or Chris about their impressions of this airplane, just let me know
and I'll put you in touch.
Worried about availability of parts? Not to worry! I have a hangar full and will
support the purchaser of this airplane.
Pictures of the Super SU 26 can be found in the aerobatic section of:
www.Barnstormers.com <http://www.barnstormers.com/>
Keyword: Super SU26
Hubie Tolson
UHF Development Group, LLC
227 East Front Street
New Bern, NC 28560
Office Phone: 252-638-4215
Cell: 252-670-9370
Fax: 252-638-7456
Web: www.uhfdevelopmentgroup.com
Email: hubie@hubietolson.com
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| Subject: | Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE |
It might beat a -50 in 1-v-1...but for that kind of money, I would get a 4 -50's
and go all China on him....meaning overwhelm him with numbers!!
Nice bird.....can I live in it? Is there a place for a stove and a tub?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286181#286181
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| Subject: | Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE |
Did you watch the YouTube video Tim?
This is basically one of those aircraft that if you have to ask how much it costs,
you really need to look elsewhere. This is a one of a kind aircraft, built
using the best features of three different models of Sukhoi, to create a purpose
built aircraft meant to kick ass in any aerobatic contest, limited only by
the abilities of the pilot and little else. The design allows it to be supported
by existing parts, the proof of the design comes from winning the four minute
free-style, and the price is in line with what the very best of these aircraft
go for these days.
Just to give the uninitiated a little hint... the landing gear struts on these
aircraft and made from solid titanium. SOLID TITANIUM! Go anywhere you want
in the U.S. of A. and ask how much it would cost to make just one. The wings
have been stress tested to over 20 G's before failure. Then tested again AFTER
they failed and they held the SECOND time (same wings) to over 9 G's. The engine
is one of the most powerful M-14's ever produced by Russia. The fuel system
has been customized to allow long cross countries... and this thing will
cruise faster than a YAK-50.
Comparing how many YAK-50's you can buy for one of these, is honestly comparing
apples to oranges. No matter how many apples you buy, you still don't have an
orange. The old saying applies: "Speed costs money, how fast do you want to
go?" In this case, we are talking about competitive aerobatics. How much is
the very best worth? Depends on how badly you want to win.
Mark Bitterlich
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Gagnon
Sent: Fri 2/12/2010 2:29 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE
It might beat a -50 in 1-v-1...but for that kind of money, I would get a 4 -50's
and go all China on him....meaning overwhelm him with numbers!!
Nice bird.....can I live in it? Is there a place for a stove and a tub?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286181#286181
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Who owns this airplane please?
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| Subject: | Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE |
A similar 435 HP engine on a -50 with a set of VG's would make the fight
more interesting. What's the difference in the empty weights Mark?
Mark Davis
N44YK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Did you watch the YouTube video Tim?
>
> This is basically one of those aircraft that if you have to ask how much
> it costs, you really need to look elsewhere. This is a one of a kind
> aircraft, built using the best features of three different models of
> Sukhoi, to create a purpose built aircraft meant to kick ass in any
> aerobatic contest, limited only by the abilities of the pilot and little
> else. The design allows it to be supported by existing parts, the proof
> of the design comes from winning the four minute free-style, and the price
> is in line with what the very best of these aircraft go for these days.
>
> Just to give the uninitiated a little hint... the landing gear struts on
> these aircraft and made from solid titanium. SOLID TITANIUM! Go anywhere
> you want in the U.S. of A. and ask how much it would cost to make just
> one. The wings have been stress tested to over 20 G's before failure.
> Then tested again AFTER they failed and they held the SECOND time (same
> wings) to over 9 G's. The engine is one of the most powerful M-14's ever
> produced by Russia. The fuel system has been customized to allow long
> cross countries... and this thing will cruise faster than a YAK-50.
>
> Comparing how many YAK-50's you can buy for one of these, is honestly
> comparing apples to oranges. No matter how many apples you buy, you still
> don't have an orange. The old saying applies: "Speed costs money, how
> fast do you want to go?" In this case, we are talking about competitive
> aerobatics. How much is the very best worth? Depends on how badly you
> want to win.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Gagnon
> Sent: Fri 2/12/2010 2:29 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE
>
>
>
> It might beat a -50 in 1-v-1...but for that kind of money, I would get a
> 4 -50's and go all China on him....meaning overwhelm him with numbers!!
>
> Nice bird.....can I live in it? Is there a place for a stove and a tub?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286181#286181
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE |
My Yak 50 has a new M14R engine, measured at the factory in Moscow at 437
hp, three-bladed MT prop, empty weight 720 kg. Oil cooler from an MI8
helicopter. But would be NO MATCH IN ANY WAY with this Sukhoi 26.
Jan YK50 RA2005K
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: vrijdag 12 februari 2010 10:47
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE
A similar 435 HP engine on a -50 with a set of VG's would make the fight
more interesting. What's the difference in the empty weights Mark?
Mark Davis
N44YK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Did you watch the YouTube video Tim?
>
> This is basically one of those aircraft that if you have to ask how much
> it costs, you really need to look elsewhere. This is a one of a kind
> aircraft, built using the best features of three different models of
> Sukhoi, to create a purpose built aircraft meant to kick ass in any
> aerobatic contest, limited only by the abilities of the pilot and little
> else. The design allows it to be supported by existing parts, the proof
> of the design comes from winning the four minute free-style, and the price
> is in line with what the very best of these aircraft go for these days.
>
> Just to give the uninitiated a little hint... the landing gear struts on
> these aircraft and made from solid titanium. SOLID TITANIUM! Go anywhere
> you want in the U.S. of A. and ask how much it would cost to make just
> one. The wings have been stress tested to over 20 G's before failure.
> Then tested again AFTER they failed and they held the SECOND time (same
> wings) to over 9 G's. The engine is one of the most powerful M-14's ever
> produced by Russia. The fuel system has been customized to allow long
> cross countries... and this thing will cruise faster than a YAK-50.
>
> Comparing how many YAK-50's you can buy for one of these, is honestly
> comparing apples to oranges. No matter how many apples you buy, you still
> don't have an orange. The old saying applies: "Speed costs money, how
> fast do you want to go?" In this case, we are talking about competitive
> aerobatics. How much is the very best worth? Depends on how badly you
> want to win.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Gagnon
> Sent: Fri 2/12/2010 2:29 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: BAD ASS SUKE FOR SALE
>
>
>
> It might beat a -50 in 1-v-1...but for that kind of money, I would get a
> 4 -50's and go all China on him....meaning overwhelm him with numbers!!
>
> Nice bird.....can I live in it? Is there a place for a stove and a tub?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286181#286181
>
>
>
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