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1. 06:34 AM - Re: Anyone east of the Mississippi have a CJ rudder (skidmk)
2. 07:57 AM - Re: questions and opinions (Mozam)
3. 08:47 AM - Re: Re: questions and opinions (Herb Coussons)
4. 09:14 AM - Re: questions and opinions (Dale)
5. 11:54 AM - CJ6 jacks (doug sapp)
6. 04:55 PM - Red Alert (jblake207@comcast.net)
7. 04:59 PM - Re: CJ6 jacks (Donna or Steve Hanshew)
8. 05:01 PM - The Time has come.. (Cpayne)
9. 05:06 PM - Re: The Time has come.. (Eric Wobschall)
10. 05:13 PM - Re: The Time has come.. (Kregg Victory)
11. 05:53 PM - Re: The Time has come.. (Roger Kemp MD)
12. 06:03 PM - Re: The Time has come.. (doug sapp)
13. 06:17 PM - Re: The Time has come.. (Mark Schrick)
14. 06:58 PM - Re: The Time has come.. (vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
15. 07:28 PM - Re: The Time has come.. (jblake207@comcast.net)
16. 07:33 PM - Re: Red Alert (Dave \)
17. 08:51 PM - Re: The Time has come.. (cjpilot710@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone east of the Mississippi have a CJ rudder |
hmmm... whassup?
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Mike "Skidmk" Bourget
Ottawa, Ontario
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| Subject: | Re: questions and opinions |
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the Russian/Romanian engineering concerning
the oil coolers on the TW. I own the first TW ever made and the oil cooler
(and the cooler housing) is without a single modification to it. It works
perfectly.
If I fly on days with an OAT below 65F, I have to start blocking the oil cooler
inlet to get my oil warm enough. If the oat is below 40F, I have to completely
block off the cooler inlet to get the oil warm.
I have flown airshows on 90F days with both levers at the front stops for several
minutes and the oil temp never exceeds 170F.
Some TW's do have oil temp issues. I have several friends with TW's that have
all kinds of modifications to their cooler housings to try to fix their oil temp
problems. IMHO, this is all a waste of time/money/effort. The bone-stock
original cooler/housing/location works just fine.
Their high temps are caused by something else, which I suspect to be the (American
made?) oil coolers themselves. Just my two cents worth.
-Steve Dalton
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| Subject: | Re: questions and opinions |
I would agree with all the posts on oil coolers. I know that there are several
issues involved, location, design of the housing (several versions out there),
the part itself. Point being - there were issues with the design, parts used,
etc with a large portion of the ones that left the factory. They knew it,
they did not know why and incorporated all kinds of fixes in later planes. Much
of the information came from pilots in the US trying different things on their
own planes and the ultimate answer - some pilots had faulty parts was ultimately
the answer. I am only making the comment because to resign ourselves that
the Russian design is "tested" and "right" is shortsighted. There are problems
and safety issues that we can improve. Another example is the FOD / elevator
problem. I would say that the collective solutions of the yak community
have saved lives in this area.
Herb
On Mar 24, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Mozam wrote:
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> There was absolutely nothing wrong with the Russian/Romanian engineering concerning
the oil coolers on the TW. I own the first TW ever made and the oil cooler
(and the cooler housing) is without a single modification to it. It works
perfectly.
>
> If I fly on days with an OAT below 65F, I have to start blocking the oil cooler
inlet to get my oil warm enough. If the oat is below 40F, I have to completely
block off the cooler inlet to get the oil warm.
>
> I have flown airshows on 90F days with both levers at the front stops for several
minutes and the oil temp never exceeds 170F.
>
> Some TW's do have oil temp issues. I have several friends with TW's that have
all kinds of modifications to their cooler housings to try to fix their oil
temp problems. IMHO, this is all a waste of time/money/effort. The bone-stock
original cooler/housing/location works just fine.
>
> Their high temps are caused by something else, which I suspect to be the (American
made?) oil coolers themselves. Just my two cents worth.
>
> -Steve Dalton
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| Subject: | Re: questions and opinions |
Sometime during the production run of the Positec coolers the thermistor seat was
machined too deep and the oil would by-pass the cooler without cooling and
return it back to the tank. I have seen everything from reversing the cooler
to building air dams and lowering the cooler in a attempt to find cool air. You
have to ask yourself why a number of TW's with no modifications work just
fine. Not a placement issue but a cooler that had a small flaw and only showed
up on those planes. Unfortunately the story that the TW overheats continues
to be projected.
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Guys,
Due to the problems of getting CJ6 center section jacks out of China at a
civilized price I have decided to build another 6 sets of my hyd "Yak
Jacks". These would be for the center section only and would not include
the headed engine or tail jacks. Three sets are already spoken for, 3 sets
remain available as of this writing. Any interest contact me off list.
Best,
Doug
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Mike love:=C2- Great job on the Magazine this month!=C2- Tell Condor yo
u need a raise!=C2- Saber
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Doug,
Put me down for a set.
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:38 PM
Subject: Yak-List: CJ6 jacks
Guys,
Due to the problems of getting CJ6 center section jacks out of China
at a civilized price I have decided to build another 6 sets of my hyd
"Yak Jacks". These would be for the center section only and would not
include the headed engine or tail jacks. Three sets are already spoken
for, 3 sets remain available as of this writing. Any interest contact
me off list.
Best,
Doug
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| Subject: | The Time has come.. |
No more talk! I'm tired of hearing who has the best CJ. So, who has the Top CJ?
El Numero Uno, the Big Tuna, King Kong? Changzilla? Many have well over 100HP
over stock, Really Big Props, side exhaust, Malcom hoods, etc, etc.
Top CJ-6? Obviously we have those that GO, those that Show, and some that Show
& GO. There is only one way to sort this out...a shootout! Mano 'y Mano. A really
big one. Problem is that we are scattered all over the US and Canada.
If not this year, maybe next, certainly before 2012 ends. A purse you say? Certainly,
some entry fee to sweeten the pot is in order. Sponsors? Perhaps.
Under 175KTAS in level flight need not apply, save your money for old age or buy
a Yak. What say ye Men of Honor? Soar with Eagles or Buzz with Buzzards? (sorry
Yakistas, I still love y'all like step-children)
Inquiring Minds want to know.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: The Time has come.. |
Get off the sugar.
On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Cpayne wrote:
>
> No more talk! I'm tired of hearing who has the best CJ. So, who has
> the Top CJ? El Numero Uno, the Big Tuna, King Kong? Changzilla? Many
> have well over 100HP over stock, Really Big Props, side exhaust,
> Malcom hoods, etc, etc.
>
> Top CJ-6? Obviously we have those that GO, those that Show, and some
> that Show & GO. There is only one way to sort this out...a shootout!
> Mano 'y Mano. A really big one. Problem is that we are scattered all
> over the US and Canada.
>
> If not this year, maybe next, certainly before 2012 ends. A purse
> you say? Certainly, some entry fee to sweeten the pot is in order.
> Sponsors? Perhaps.
>
> Under 175KTAS in level flight need not apply, save your money for
> old age or buy a Yak. What say ye Men of Honor? Soar with Eagles or
> Buzz with Buzzards? (sorry Yakistas, I still love y'all like step-
> children)
>
> Inquiring Minds want to know.
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
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| Subject: | The Time has come.. |
I like this idea. I already know who has the best CJ. It is the guy that just
sold it !!!!!! -:)
Kreg
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cpayne
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:37 PM
Subject: Yak-List: The Time has come..
No more talk! I'm tired of hearing who has the best CJ. So, who has the Top CJ?
El Numero Uno, the Big Tuna, King Kong? Changzilla? Many have well over 100HP
over stock, Really Big Props, side exhaust, Malcom hoods, etc, etc.
Top CJ-6? Obviously we have those that GO, those that Show, and some that Show
& GO. There is only one way to sort this out...a shootout! Mano 'y Mano. A really
big one. Problem is that we are scattered all over the US and Canada.
If not this year, maybe next, certainly before 2012 ends. A purse you say? Certainly,
some entry fee to sweeten the pot is in order. Sponsors? Perhaps.
Under 175KTAS in level flight need not apply, save your money for old age or buy
a Yak. What say ye Men of Honor? Soar with Eagles or Buzz with Buzzards? (sorry
Yakistas, I still love y'all like step-children)
Inquiring Minds want to know.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: The Time has come.. |
Yawn.
Doc
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 24, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com> wrote:
>
> No more talk! I'm tired of hearing who has the best CJ. So, who has
> the Top CJ? El Numero Uno, the Big Tuna, King Kong? Changzilla? Many
> have well over 100HP over stock, Really Big Props, side exhaust,
> Malcom hoods, etc, etc.
>
> Top CJ-6? Obviously we have those that GO, those that Show, and some
> that Show & GO. There is only one way to sort this out...a shootout!
> Mano 'y Mano. A really big one. Problem is that we are scattered all
> over the US and Canada.
>
> If not this year, maybe next, certainly before 2012 ends. A purse
> you say? Certainly, some entry fee to sweeten the pot is in order.
> Sponsors? Perhaps.
>
> Under 175KTAS in level flight need not apply, save your money for
> old age or buy a Yak. What say ye Men of Honor? Soar with Eagles or
> Buzz with Buzzards? (sorry Yakistas, I still love y'all like step-
> children)
>
> Inquiring Minds want to know.
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: The Time has come.. |
Craig,
So let me get this straight:
Any CJ no matter of the added flavoring?
A speed dash?
And your willing to match any cash amount in a winner takes all race? It's
gotta be worth while, or no one will be interested.
You have me interested, let us all know if we are on the same page.
Doug
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com> wrote:
>
> No more talk! I'm tired of hearing who has the best CJ. So, who has the Top
> CJ? El Numero Uno, the Big Tuna, King Kong? Changzilla? Many have well over
> 100HP over stock, Really Big Props, side exhaust, Malcom hoods, etc, etc.
>
> Top CJ-6? Obviously we have those that GO, those that Show, and some that
> Show & GO. There is only one way to sort this out...a shootout! Mano 'y
> Mano. A really big one. Problem is that we are scattered all over the US and
> Canada.
>
> If not this year, maybe next, certainly before 2012 ends. A purse you say?
> Certainly, some entry fee to sweeten the pot is in order. Sponsors? Perhaps.
>
> Under 175KTAS in level flight need not apply, save your money for old age
> or buy a Yak. What say ye Men of Honor? Soar with Eagles or Buzz with
> Buzzards? (sorry Yakistas, I still love y'all like step-children)
>
> Inquiring Minds want to know.
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
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| Subject: | The Time has come.. |
Kregg that was an awesome answer.......They guy that just sold a CJ.
If you want speed, by a glasair or lancair. If you want a warbird that can FIGHT,
do acro and can travel.
BUY A YAK or AG sprayer in China (you know who I mean)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cpayne
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:37 PM
Subject: Yak-List: The Time has come..
No more talk! I'm tired of hearing who has the best CJ. So, who has the Top CJ?
El Numero Uno, the Big Tuna, King Kong? Changzilla? Many have well over 100HP
over stock, Really Big Props, side exhaust, Malcom hoods, etc, etc.
Top CJ-6? Obviously we have those that GO, those that Show, and some that Show
& GO. There is only one way to sort this out...a shootout! Mano 'y Mano. A really
big one. Problem is that we are scattered all over the US and Canada.
If not this year, maybe next, certainly before 2012 ends. A purse you say? Certainly,
some entry fee to sweeten the pot is in order. Sponsors? Perhaps.
Under 175KTAS in level flight need not apply, save your money for old age or buy
a Yak. What say ye Men of Honor? Soar with Eagles or Buzz with Buzzards? (sorry
Yakistas, I still love y'all like step-children)
Inquiring Minds want to know.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: The Time has come.. |
A wise old air force pilot once told me; "Son, don't put lipstick on a
pig. If you want fast buy fast." I'm sticking with that advice.
TGB
-----Original Message-----
From: Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com>
Sent: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 4:37 pm
Subject: Yak-List: The Time has come..
No more talk! I'm tired of hearing who has the best CJ. So, who has the To
p CJ?
El Numero Uno, the Big Tuna, King Kong? Changzilla? Many have well over 10
0HP
over stock, Really Big Props, side exhaust, Malcom hoods, etc, etc.
Top CJ-6? Obviously we have those that GO, those that Show, and some that
Show &
GO. There is only one way to sort this out...a shootout! Mano 'y Mano. A
really
big one. Problem is that we are scattered all over the US and Canada.
If not this year, maybe next, certainly before 2012 ends. A purse you say?
Certainly, some entry fee to sweeten the pot is in order. Sponsors? Perhap
s.
Under 175KTAS in level flight need not apply, save your money for old age
or buy
a Yak. What say ye Men of Honor? Soar with Eagles or Buzz with Buzzards?
(sorry
Yakistas, I still love y'all like step-children)
Inquiring Minds want to know.
Craig Payne
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that's just cause you are all over the mag...midgets rule!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: jblake207@comcast.net
To: Yak-List Digest
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:07 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Red Alert
Mike love: Great job on the Magazine this month! Tell Condor you
need a raise! Saber
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| Subject: | Re: The Time has come.. |
Careful guys, Old "Payne in the A##" has beat some real Speedos during sa
nctioned races. I'll put a hundred on a CJ-6. Could one call that a gaun
tlet?
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: vectorwarbirds@aol.com
Sent: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: The Time has come..
A wise old air force pilot once told me; "Son, don't put lipstick on a pi
g. If you want fast buy fast." I'm sticking with that advice.
TGB
-----Original Message-----
From: Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com>
Sent: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 4:37 pm
Subject: Yak-List: The Time has come..
o more talk! I'm tired of hearing who has the best CJ. So, who has the Top
CJ?
l Numero Uno, the Big Tuna, King Kong? Changzilla? Many have well over 100
HP
ver stock, Really Big Props, side exhaust, Malcom hoods, etc, etc.
op CJ-6? Obviously we have those that GO, those that Show, and some that
Show &
O. There is only one way to sort this out...a shootout! Mano 'y Mano. A re
ally
ig one. Problem is that we are scattered all over the US and Canada.
f not this year, maybe next, certainly before 2012 ends. A purse you say?
ertainly, some entry fee to sweeten the pot is in order. Sponsors? Perhaps
.
nder 175KTAS in level flight need not apply, save your money for old age
or buy
Yak. What say ye Men of Honor? Soar with Eagles or Buzz with Buzzards? (s
orry
akistas, I still love y'all like step-children)
nquiring Minds want to know.
raig Payne
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