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1. 05:35 AM - Re: Strut fill adaptor (Kelley Monroe)
2. 08:59 AM - Re: Top Dog race (Richard Goode)
3. 09:34 AM - Re: Top Dog race (Eric Wobschall)
4. 09:47 AM - Re: Strut fill adaptor (Kregg Victory)
5. 03:20 PM - Re: Top Dog race (Yak Pilot)
6. 03:30 PM - Re: Top Dog race (Yak Pilot)
7. 03:35 PM - Re: The Time has come.. (Yak Pilot)
8. 05:06 PM - Aluminum Tubing (Kelley Monroe)
9. 05:36 PM - Re: Top Dog race (Roger Kemp M.D.)
10. 06:10 PM - Re: Aluminum Tubing (Eric Wobschall)
11. 07:45 PM - Re: Top Dog race (cjpilot710@aol.com)
12. 08:04 PM - Re: Top Dog race (dabear)
13. 08:11 PM - Re: Top Dog race (Roger Kemp M.D.)
14. 08:51 PM - Re: Top Dog race (Roger Kemp M.D.)
15. 10:02 PM - Re: Top Dog race (dabear)
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Subject: | Re: Strut fill adaptor |
I still have a few left. Contact me of list at kelmonroe@comcast.net.
Thanks Kelley Monroe
----- Original Message -----
From: KingCJ6@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:18 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Strut fill adaptor
Lost ours...anyone sell or have a source for the CJ strut
metric-to-American schrader adaptor
Thanks, Dave
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Subject: | Re: Top Dog race |
No,only a rumour.The design work,begun in 1945 by A G Ivchenko,was
original.But,like any other designer,I'm sure he used the best ideas
from others he might have heard about.Vedenyeev took over the design
responsibilities when Ivchenko went over to jet engines only.
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Lannon
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Whether built in Russia or Romania the M14 is a derivative of the
Ivchenko series. The Chinese, Polish and Czech built versions are as
well.
Rumour has it that the original Ivchenko was a copy of a 1930's German
BMW radial but who knows?
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D.
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Not that I'm aware of. I may be wrong but I thought the Vendeneyev
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wobschall
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 5:15 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Doc, isn't that different, though? The Bear 360 was designed by
Yakovlev himself. Did he design (or reverse engineer) the Vendeneyev
engine?
If we are going to do that then lets add the =BE scale F4U
Corsair with the M-14 in the nose?
It will be part YAK too. They are saying 250 kts cruise. We'll
see.
Doc
DOH!!!!
On Mar 26, 2010, at 9:53 AM, rick@rvairshows.com wrote:
Maybe you should allow the Bear 360 in the race. It is a Yak
design.
Rick Volker
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: cjpilot710@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:46:27 -0400
To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Naaaaaaa. I want to stand there and watch the loser putting
col= d hard green backs in my hand and giggle at his wimpy tears when
he= realizes how wimpy his little "drag bucket" is.
Guys I used to have to reduce power for the Yaks when I had the
260= hp Housi 6 in the airplane.
Guys! the gauntlet is laying there!
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52 am
Subject: Yak-List: Top Dog race
--&=gt; Yak-List message posted by: "Russ" <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
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collected through the RPAstore somehow. Purse net based upon total
collected with a chunk going tothe RPA. Russ "AirBoss" WItte-Dycus
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Subject: | Re: Top Dog race |
The point of this thread being: The Bear 360 is a Yakovlev design, and
such a characteristic cannot be attributed to another aircraft just
because it has an M-14P on it. It was suggested that the Bear 360
qualified because of its Yakovlev pedigree. Now if we could find one.
On Mar 28, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Richard Goode wrote:
> No,only a rumour.The design work,begun in 1945 by A G Ivchenko,was
> original.But,like any other designer,I'm sure he used the best ideas
> from others he might have heard about.Vedenyeev took over the design
> responsibilities when Ivchenko went over to jet engines only.
> Richard
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Hereford
> HR5 3LW
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> www.russianaeros.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Walter Lannon
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 4:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
>
> Whether built in Russia or Romania the M14 is a derivative of the
> Ivchenko series. The Chinese, Polish and Czech built versions are as
> well.
> Rumour has it that the original Ivchenko was a copy of a 1930's
> German BMW radial but who knows?
> Walt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Kemp M.D.
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:11 PM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
>
> Not that I=92m aware of. I may be wrong but I thought the Vendeneyev
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> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Eric Wobschall
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 5:15 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
>
> Doc, isn't that different, though? The Bear 360 was designed by
> Yakovlev himself. Did he design (or reverse engineer) the Vendeneyev
> engine?
>
>
> If we are going to do that then lets add the =BE scale F4U Corsair
> with the M-14 in the nose?
> It will be part YAK too. They are saying 250 kts cruise. We=92ll see.
>
> Doc
>
>
> DOH!!!!
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2010, at 9:53 AM, rick@rvairshows.com wrote:
>
>
> Maybe you should allow the Bear 360 in the race. It is a Yak design.
> Rick Volker
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> From: cjpilot710@aol.com
> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:46:27 -0400
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
>
> Naaaaaaa. I want to stand there and watch the loser putting col= d
> hard green backs in my hand and giggle at his wimpy tears when he=
> realizes how wimpy his little "drag bucket" is.
>
> Guys I used to have to reduce power for the Yaks when I had the 260=
> hp Housi 6 in the airplane.
>
> Guys! the gauntlet is laying there!
>
> Pappy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russ <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52 am
> Subject: Yak-List: Top Dog race
>
> --&
> gt; Yak-List message posted by: "Russ" <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Since in PITA's own words, We are scattered all over the
> 'WORLD' (Aussies)
> .
> I suggest that we setup some parameters: course length, number of
> turns,
> turn direction, etc, etc, etc. Races should perhaps have more than
> one
> aircraft. Results posted on YAK-LIST? Entry fee collected through
> the RPA
> store somehow. Purse net based upon total collected with a chunk
> going to
> the RPA.
>
> Russ "AirBoss" WItte-Dycus
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Subject: | Strut fill adaptor |
I have some. Contact me off line.
Kregg
Victory Aero LLC
2502 John Montgomery Dr.
San Jose, CA 95148
408-836-5122
www.balancemyprop.com
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KingCJ6@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 5:19 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Strut fill adaptor
Lost ours...anyone sell or have a source for the CJ strut metric-to-American
schrader adaptor?
Thanks, Dave
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Didn't think so.
-
Mark
--- On Fri, 3/26/10, Roger Kemp M.D. <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
From: Roger Kemp M.D. <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Answer...No he did not.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark
G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:19 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Pappy, was that the 50 or the 52?- The 52 is painfully slow.- For some
reason, some folks think the 50 and the 52 perform about the same.- Did
you actually walk right away from a 50 when it was WFO ???
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Naaaaaaa.- I want to stand there and watch the loser putting cold hard
green backs in my hand and giggle at his wimpy tears when he realizes
how wimpy his little "drag bucket" is.
Guys I used to have to reduce power for the Yaks when I had the 260 hp
Housi 6 in the airplane.
Guys! the gauntlet is laying there!
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52 am
Subject: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Since in PITA's own words, We are scattered all over the 'WORLD'
(Aussies).
I suggest that we setup some parameters: course length, number of turns,
turn direction, etc, etc, etc.- Races should perhaps have more than one
aircraft. Results posted on YAK-LIST? Entry fee collected through the
RPA store somehow.- Purse net based upon total collected with a chunk
going to the RPA.
Russ "AirBoss" WItte-Dycus
get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
le, List Admin.
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Subject: | Re: Top Dog race |
Really?- When was that?-- I have a 1974 Yak 50 sitting here in my han
gar.- You had your stock CJ before then?- :-)
-
If equipped with the 500 kmph indicator, the maximum allowed speed (Vne) is
470 kmph, and that translates to just under 300 mph, .... actually 292 mph
.- That is out of the YAK-50 flight manual.-
-
What's the Vne on that CJ-6 Pappy?- Anywhere near 300 mph?- Just curiou
s.-
-
Mark
-
p.s.- From the same manual:- "At an engine power setting of 99% on a M-
14P equipped YAK-50, the 'near the ground' maximum sustained speed is 198 m
ph.- Mine does 200 mph, but hey... I am also turned up a tad over 99%.-
And.... airspeed indicators can be off just a tiny bit now and then.- :-
)-- But over a course averaging both ways, it came out to 201 mph.-
-
-
--- On Fri, 3/26/10, cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
From: cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Back when I had the 260 in my CJ there were only 52s on this sweet earth.
- The Bear 360 is an aborigine- only one.- What is the Vne of the 50?
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich
@navy.mil>
Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 1:19 pm
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Pappy, was that the 50 or the 52? The 52 is painfully slow. For some
reason, some folks think the 50 and the 52 perform about the same. Did
you actually walk right away from a 50 when it was WFO ???
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Naaaaaaa. I want to stand there and watch the loser putting cold hard
green backs in my hand and giggle at his wimpy tears when he realizes
how wimpy his little "drag bucket" is.
Guys I used to have to reduce power for the Yaks when I had the 260 hp
Housi 6 in the airplane.
Guys! the gauntlet is laying there!
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52 am
Subject: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Since in PITA's own words, We are scattered all over the 'WORLD'
(Aussies).
I suggest that we setup some parameters: course length, number of turns,
turn direction, etc, etc, etc. Races should perhaps have more than one
aircraft. Results posted on YAK-LIST? Entry fee collected through the
RPA store somehow. Purse net based upon total collected with a chunk
going to the RPA.
Russ "AirBoss" WItte-Dycus
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Subject: | Re: The Time has come.. |
Thanks for your answer John.-
-
I honestly think a 10% increase in speed is possible for a YAK-50 if someon
e did some serious work on it.- I am talking gap seals, some fairings on
the main landing gear when they are up, ... other drag reduction mods.- I
honestly believe a YAK-50 could be made to go faster than an AT-6 // SNJ
--- And it can really turn too.- Gosh.. it is exciting to think abo
ut it, at least for me.-
-
Mark
-
p.s.- I have two Sea Fury drop tanks sitting here in my hangar.- Seriou
sly.- I do.- They are fitted to go on my UTVA-66, but otherwise are sto
ck. .- Let me know if you find a Sea Fury owner that ever seriously wants
them.- Seriously meaning.... I am not giving THESE puppy dogs away.- :
-)-
--- On Fri, 3/26/10, John Fischer <fish@aviation-tech.com> wrote:
From: John Fischer <fish@aviation-tech.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: The Time has come..
Mark,
Last year's #1 Qualifier at Reno, T-6 class was Six-Cat @ 239.350
Miles and hour.
http://www.airrace.org/raceResultsQueryDisplay.php
So it would be interesting to see a CJ-6/Yak category racing at Reno.
It would definitely be cheaper to run an unlimited CJ-6/Yak then P-51/Sea F
ury.
It could end up being the new Formula or Biplane class for the average pilo
t.
Although if anyone has a spare Sea Fury sitting around, I have an
extra R-4360 (rebuilt) looking for a home.
Think we can fit it on my Yak-52?
See You at Reno
John Fischer
California City, CA
At 10:40 AM 3/26/2010, you wrote:
>Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
>My stock 50 does 200 mph.- I believe that if I put a serious engine on
>it, like say about 430 HP or so, and had a prop specifically built for
>speed, then stripped the darn thing down even more, I might just get 220
>mph out of the thing.- That's darn close to T-6 speed.- The "stock" T-
6
>speed is 200 mph.- The stock YAK-50 speed is: 200 mph.- I am not talki
ng
>about 52's.- I am not talking about CJ's.- I'm talking about a YAK-50.
>
>Mark Bitterlich
>
>P.s.- I have done a little dog-fighting with a T-6 down in Florida.
>It's a wonderful beautiful heavy airframe with a big 600 HP engine.- I
>want one!- However, the 50 tears it a new rear end in 1 v 1.- Period.
>Not even close.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD VOLKER
>Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:01 PM
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: The Time has come..
>
>Probably slower than the T6 class. Can you see a Yak 52 or CJ that is as
>stock as the winning Gold or silver T6 getting to their speeds? 230mph?
>What a fun class to watch though!
>Rick Volker
>
>On Mar 25, 2010, at 12:52 PM, jetj01@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>- - - ---"If you REALLY want to be cool about it, talk to the
Reno Air
>Racing
>- - - ---folks about opening a new class.- Now THAT would be
something to
>see."
>
>
>- - - ---How cool would that be!!!
>
>- - - ---Jj
>
>- - - ---In a message dated 3/25/2010 11:51:12 A.M. Central Da
ylight
>Time, mark.bitterlich@navy.mil writes:
>
erlich, Mark G CIV
>Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
>- - - - - - - ---Speed is nothing more than large amou
nts of money and
>the willingness to
>- - - - - - - ---spend it.
>
>- - - - - - - ---If you REALLY want to be cool about i
t, talk to the Reno
>Air Racing
>- - - - - - - ---folks about opening a new class.- N
ow THAT would be
>something to see.
>
>- - - - - - - --------Original Message-----
>- - - - - - - ---From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics
.com
>- - - - - - - ---[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matroni
cs.com] On Behalf
>Of
>- - - - - - - ---cjpilot710@aol.com
>- - - - - - - ---Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:50
PM
>- - - - - - - ---To: yak-list@matronics.com
>- - - - - - - ---Subject: Re: Yak-List: The Time has c
ome..
>
>- - - - - - - ---Careful guys,- Old "Payne in the A#
#" has beat some real
>Speedos during
>- - - - - - - ---sanctioned races.- I'll put a hundr
ed on a CJ-6.- Could
>one call that a
>- - - - - - - ---gauntlet?
>- - - - - - - ---Pappy
>
>
>- - - - - - - --------Original Message-----
>- - - - - - - ---From: vectorwarbirds@aol.com
>- - - - - - - ---To: yak-list@matronics.com
>- - - - - - - ---Sent: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 9:55 pm
>- - - - - - - ---Subject: Re: Yak-List: The Time has c
ome..
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---A wise old air force pilot once told
me;- "Son, don't
>put lipstick on a
>- - - - - - - ---pig. If you want fast buy fast."- I
'm sticking with that
>advice.
>
>- - - - - - - ---TGB
>
>
>- - - - - - - --------Original Message-----
>- - - - - - - ---From: Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com>
>- - - - - - - ---To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
>- - - - - - - ---Sent: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 4:37 pm
>- - - - - - - ---Subject: Yak-List: The Time has come.
.
>
>
e
><cpayne@joimail.com>
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---No more talk! I'm tired of hearing wh
o has the best CJ.
>So, who has the
>- - - - - - - ---Top CJ?
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---El Numero Uno, the Big Tuna, King Kon
g? Changzilla? Many
>have well over
>- - - - - - - ---100HP
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---over stock, Really Big Props, side ex
haust, Malcom
>hoods, etc, etc.
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---Top CJ-6? Obviously we have those tha
t GO, those that
>Show, and some
>- - - - - - - ---that Show &
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---GO. There is only one way to sort thi
s out...a shootout!
>Mano 'y Mano. A
>- - - - - - - ---really
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---big one. Problem is that we are scatt
ered all over the
>US and Canada.
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---If not this year, maybe next, certain
ly before 2012
>ends. A purse you
>- - - - - - - ---say?
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---Certainly, some entry fee to sweeten
the pot is in
>order. Sponsors?
>- - - - - - - ---Perhaps.
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---Under 175KTAS in level flight need no
t apply, save your
>money for old
>- - - - - - - ---age or buy
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---a Yak. What say ye Men of Honor? Soar
with Eagles or
>Buzz with Buzzards?
>- - - - - - - ---(sorry
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---Yakistas, I still love y'all like ste
p-children)
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---Inquiring Minds want to know.
>
>
>- - - - - - - ---Craig Payne
>
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I do and will give it to you off list. I just took a bunch of pictures
of a
Goodyear F4U at the Maxwell Air Show today. Have to down load them
still.
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Young
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 12:50 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Do you have a contact or any info on the Corsair? I've got one like it
in
the design stage and would love to talk to them.
Regards,
Greg Young
_____
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
If we are going to do that then lets add the =BE scale F4U Corsair with
the
M-14 in the nose?
It will be part YAK too. They are saying 250 kts cruise. We=92ll see.
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wobschall
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
DOH!!!!
On Mar 26, 2010, at 9:53 AM, rick@rvairshows.com wrote:
Maybe you should allow the Bear 360 in the race. It is a Yak design.
Rick Volker
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
_____
From: cjpilot710@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Naaaaaaa. I want to stand there and watch the loser putting col= d
hard
green backs in my hand and giggle at his wimpy tears when he= realizes
how
wimpy his little "drag bucket" is.
Guys I used to have to reduce power for the Yaks when I had the 260=
hp
Housi 6 in the airplane.
Guys! the gauntlet is laying there!
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52 am
Subject: Yak-List: Top Dog race
--&
gt; Yak-List message posted by: "Russ" <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
Since in PITA's own words, We are scattered all over the 'WORLD'
(Aussies)
.
I suggest that we setup some parameters: course length, number of turns,
turn direction, etc, etc, etc. Races should perhaps have more than one
aircraft. Results posted on YAK-LIST? Entry fee collected through the
RPA
store somehow. Purse net based upon total collected with a chunk going
to
the RPA.
Russ "AirBoss" WItte-Dycus
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum Tubing |
I do as well, in case you need a second source.
On Mar 28, 2010, at 8:03 PM, Kelley Monroe wrote:
> I am replacing air lines in my CJ and I need a source to buy bulk
> 6mm tubing from. Thanks Kelley Monroe
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Top Dog race |
CJ were first built in 1962. I saw a (what was than called a "Yak 18R")
or Yak-50 at the world acro competition in England in 1972 (or 74?). I
believe I still have a 35mm slide of it. My CJ( a 69) came to the US in
94. It was only in here a month or so when I bought it. I was not perso
nally aware of a Yak 50 being in country at that time. There may have bee
n one but I willing to bet not before 1972 or 74.
The Vne on the CJ is 217mph.
We all know any airplane can go fast in a dive. The race should be about
straight and level - full throttle - max RPM. If you want to compete str
aight off the line plain vanilla examples to me , or stock, would be to me
more approbate. The rest is fluff as they say.
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 28, 2010 6:26 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Really? When was that? I have a 1974 Yak 50 sitting here in my hangar.
You had your stock CJ before then? :-)
If equipped with the 500 kmph indicator, the maximum allowed speed (Vne)
is 470 kmph, and that translates to just under 300 mph, .... actually 292
mph. That is out of the YAK-50 flight manual.
What's the Vne on that CJ-6 Pappy? Anywhere near 300 mph? Just curious.
Mark
p.s. From the same manual: "At an engine power setting of 99% on a M-14P
equipped YAK-50, the 'near the ground' maximum sustained speed is 198 mph
. Mine does 200 mph, but hey... I am also turned up a tad over 99%. And.
... airspeed indicators can be off just a tiny bit now and then. :-) Bu
t over a course averaging both ways, it came out to 201 mph.
--- On Fri, 3/26/10, cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
From: cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Back when I had the 260 in my CJ there were only 52s on this sweet earth.
The Bear 360 is an aborigine- only one. What is the Vne of the 50?
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlic
h@navy.mil>
Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 1:19 pm
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
ALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Pappy, was that the 50 or the 52? The 52 is painfully slow. For some
eason, some folks think the 50 and the 52 perform about the same. Did
ou actually walk right away from a 50 when it was WFO ???
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
rom: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jpilot710@aol.com
ent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:46 AM
o: yak-list@matronics.com
ubject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Naaaaaaa. I want to stand there and watch the loser putting cold hard
reen backs in my hand and giggle at his wimpy tears when he realizes
ow wimpy his little "drag bucket" is.
uys I used to have to reduce power for the Yaks when I had the 260 hp
ousi 6 in the airplane.
uys! the gauntlet is laying there!
appy
----Original Message-----
rom: Russ <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
o: yak-list@matronics.com
ent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52 am
ubject: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Since in PITA's own words, We are scattered all over the 'WORLD'
Aussies).
suggest that we setup some parameters: course length, number of turns,
urn direction, etc, etc, etc. Races should perhaps have more than one
ircraft. Results posted on YAK-LIST? Entry fee collected through the
PA store somehow. Purse net based upon total collected with a chunk
oing to the RPA.
Russ "AirBoss" WItte-Dycus
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Subject: | Re: Top Dog race |
There is a guyin the DC area who is building/designing an 80% scale
F4U. He actually reverse engineered the landing gear including the
contraction and rotation. he spoke at our local EAA meeting. Nice job
from what I've seen.
Bear
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D.
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
I do and will give it to you off list. I just took a bunch of
pictures of a Goodyear F4U at the Maxwell Air Show today. Have to down
load them still.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Young
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 12:50 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Do you have a contact or any info on the Corsair? I've got one like it
in the design stage and would love to talk to them.
Regards,
Greg Young
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 4:39 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
If we are going to do that then lets add the =BE scale F4U Corsair
with the M-14 in the nose?
It will be part YAK too. They are saying 250 kts cruise. We'll see.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wobschall
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:57 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
DOH!!!!
On Mar 26, 2010, at 9:53 AM, rick@rvairshows.com wrote:
Maybe you should allow the Bear 360 in the race. It is a Yak design.
Rick Volker
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: cjpilot710@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:46:27 -0400
To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Naaaaaaa. I want to stand there and watch the loser putting col=
d hard green backs in my hand and giggle at his wimpy tears when he=
realizes how wimpy his little "drag bucket" is.
Guys I used to have to reduce power for the Yaks when I had the
260= hp Housi 6 in the airplane.
Guys! the gauntlet is laying there!
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52 am
Subject: Yak-List: Top Dog race
--&=gt; Yak-List message posted by: "Russ" <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
Since in PITA's own words, We are scattered all over the 'WORLD'
(Aussies)=.I suggest that we setup some parameters: course length,
number of turns,turn direction, etc, etc, etc. Races should perhaps
have more than oneaircraft. Results posted on YAK-LIST? Entry fee
collected through the RPAstore somehow. Purse net based upon total
collected with a chunk going tothe RPA. Russ "AirBoss" WItte-Dycus
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Generally I'm at 62% and 600 mmHg when I fly form with the YAK52's and
Housia CJ's. The my M-14 does not really like that.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Really? When was that? I have a 1974 Yak 50 sitting here in my hangar.
You had your stock CJ before then? :-)
If equipped with the 500 kmph indicator, the maximum allowed speed (Vne) is
470 kmph, and that translates to just under 300 mph, .... actually 292 mph.
That is out of the YAK-50 flight manual.
What's the Vne on that CJ-6 Pappy? Anywhere near 300 mph? Just curious.
Mark
p.s. From the same manual: "At an engine power setting of 99% on a M-14P
equipped YAK-50, the 'near the ground' maximum sustained speed is 198 mph.
Mine does 200 mph, but hey... I am also turned up a tad over 99%. And....
airspeed indicators can be off just a tiny bit now and then. :-) But over
a course averaging both ways, it came out to 201 mph.
--- On Fri, 3/26/10, cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
From: cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Back when I had the 260 in my CJ there were only 52s on this sweet earth.
The Bear 360 is an aborigine- only one. What is the Vne of the 50?
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 1:19 pm
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil
<http://us.mc507.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> >
Pappy, was that the 50 or the 52? The 52 is painfully slow. For some
reason, some folks think the 50 and the 52 perform about the same. Did
you actually walk right away from a 50 when it was WFO ???
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<http://us.mc507.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-yak-list-server@matronic
s.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:46 AM
<http://us.mc507.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=yak-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Naaaaaaa. I want to stand there and watch the loser putting cold hard
green backs in my hand and giggle at his wimpy tears when he realizes
how wimpy his little "drag bucket" is.
Guys I used to have to reduce power for the Yaks when I had the 260 hp
Housi 6 in the airplane.
Guys! the gauntlet is laying there!
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net
<http://us.mc507.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=duncan1574@sbcglobal.net> >
<http://us.mc507.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=yak-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52 am
Subject: Yak-List: Top Dog race
<http://us.mc507.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=duncan1574@sbcglobal.net> >
Since in PITA's own words, We are scattered all over the 'WORLD'
(Aussies).
I suggest that we setup some parameters: course length, number of turns,
turn direction, etc, etc, etc. Races should perhaps have more than one
aircraft. Results posted on YAK-LIST? Entry fee collected through the
RPA store somehow. Purse net based upon total collected with a chunk
going to the RPA.
Russ "AirBoss" WItte-Dycus
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Yeah, the thing uses a jack screw to rotate the gear when retracted or
extending.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dabear
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
There is a guyin the DC area who is building/designing an 80% scale
F4U.
He actually reverse engineered the landing gear including the
contraction
and rotation. he spoke at our local EAA meeting. Nice job from what
I've
seen.
Bear
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D. <mailto:viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
I do and will give it to you off list. I just took a bunch of pictures
of a
Goodyear F4U at the Maxwell Air Show today. Have to down load them
still.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Young
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 12:50 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Do you have a contact or any info on the Corsair? I've got one like it
in
the design stage and would love to talk to them.
Regards,
Greg Young
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
If we are going to do that then lets add the =BE scale F4U Corsair with
the
M-14 in the nose?
It will be part YAK too. They are saying 250 kts cruise. We=92ll see.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wobschall
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
DOH!!!!
On Mar 26, 2010, at 9:53 AM, rick@rvairshows.com wrote:
Maybe you should allow the Bear 360 in the race. It is a Yak design.
Rick Volker
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
_____
From: cjpilot710@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Naaaaaaa. I want to stand there and watch the loser putting col= d
hard
green backs in my hand and giggle at his wimpy tears when he= realizes
how
wimpy his little "drag bucket" is.
Guys I used to have to reduce power for the Yaks when I had the 260=
hp
Housi 6 in the airplane.
Guys! the gauntlet is laying there!
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52 am
Subject: Yak-List: Top Dog race
--&
gt; Yak-List message posted by: "Russ" <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
Since in PITA's own words, We are scattered all over the 'WORLD'
(Aussies)
.
I suggest that we setup some parameters: course length, number of turns,
turn direction, etc, etc, etc. Races should perhaps have more than one
aircraft. Results posted on YAK-LIST? Entry fee collected through the
RPA
store somehow. Purse net based upon total collected with a chunk going
to
the RPA.
Russ "AirBoss" WItte-Dycus
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It also compresses the gear strut so that it fits in the wing.
Bear
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D.
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:50 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Yeah, the thing uses a jack screw to rotate the gear when retracted or
extending.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dabear
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 10:05 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
There is a guyin the DC area who is building/designing an 80% scale
F4U. He actually reverse engineered the landing gear including the
contraction and rotation. he spoke at our local EAA meeting. Nice job
from what I've seen.
Bear
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D.
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
I do and will give it to you off list. I just took a bunch of
pictures of a Goodyear F4U at the Maxwell Air Show today. Have to down
load them still.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Young
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 12:50 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Do you have a contact or any info on the Corsair? I've got one like
it in the design stage and would love to talk to them.
Regards,
Greg Young
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 4:39 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Dog race
If we are going to do that then lets add the =BE scale F4U Corsair
with the M-14 in the nose?
It will be part YAK too. They are saying 250 kts cruise. We'll
see.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wobschall
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:57 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
DOH!!!!
On Mar 26, 2010, at 9:53 AM, rick@rvairshows.com wrote:
Maybe you should allow the Bear 360 in the race. It is a Yak
design.
Rick Volker
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: cjpilot710@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:46:27 -0400
To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Top Dog race
Naaaaaaa. I want to stand there and watch the loser putting
col= d hard green backs in my hand and giggle at his wimpy tears when
he= realizes how wimpy his little "drag bucket" is.
Guys I used to have to reduce power for the Yaks when I had the
260= hp Housi 6 in the airplane.
Guys! the gauntlet is laying there!
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52 am
Subject: Yak-List: Top Dog race
--&=gt; Yak-List message posted by: "Russ" <duncan1574@sbcglobal.net>
Since in PITA's own words, We are scattered all over the 'WORLD'
(Aussies)=.I suggest that we setup some parameters: course length,
number of turns,turn direction, etc, etc, etc. Races should perhaps
have more than oneaircraft. Results posted on YAK-LIST? Entry fee
collected through the RPAstore somehow. Purse net based upon total
collected with a chunk going tothe RPA. Russ "AirBoss" WItte-Dycus
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