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1. 06:37 AM - Re: How it is in England (Roger Kemp M.D.)
2. 06:57 AM - Re: How it is in England (Richard Goode)
3. 07:14 AM - Re: How it is in England (Roger Kemp M.D.)
4. 10:34 AM - Re: How it is in England (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
5. 10:38 AM - Re: How it is in England (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
6. 11:09 AM - Re: How it is in England (Richard Goode)
7. 11:23 AM - Re: How it is in England (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
8. 12:12 PM - Re: Ignition Harness Kit (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
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| Subject: | How it is in England |
Just have to hope the FAA does not get involved with this.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 5:53 PM
Subject: Yak-List: How it is in England
Richard Goode, can you comment on this please?
So, a YAK-50 flying straight and level goes dead at 600 hours? NICE! What
the heck, over?
Mark Bitterlich
United Kingdom
Civil Aviation Authority
Issue Date: 18 September 2009
MANDATORY PERMIT DIRECTIVE
In accordance with Article 11(6)(a) of the Air Navigation Order 2005 as
amended the following action required by this Mandatory Permit Directive
(MPD) is mandatory for applicable aircraft registered in the United Kingdom
operating on a UK CAA Permit to Fly.
MPD: 2002-009R2 YAKOVLEV
Airframe Life Limitation
Yakovlev Yak-50 aeroplanes
Reason:
It has been identified that this aeroplane type is subject to an airframe
life limitation. This MPD is raised to Revision 2 to remove references to
overhaul life and relax the calendar aspect of the airframe life
limitations. In addition this revision allows an alternative means of
obtaining an airframe life extension to that provided by Yakovlev Design
Bureau (YDB) and applies a new 600 hour interim airframe life limit which
could be increased subject to appropriate approvals.
Correspondence with the Design Authority, Yakovlev Design Bureau (YDB), has
confirmed that there is an initial airframe life limit of 300 hours from
new.
This initial 300 hour airframe life limit can be extended to a maximum of
600 hours (interim airframe life limit) by the implementation of an approved
maintenance and inspection programme. In the absence of airframe life
extensions being granted by YDB, this 600 hour interim airframe life limit
has been applied pending further review of what maintenance and inspection
programme would be appropriate to extend the limit beyond this value.
Compliance:
Before further flight from the original effective date of this MPD,
determine the total airframe hours of the individual aeroplane.
No action is required until the aeroplane reaches 300 airframe hours.
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| Subject: | Re: How it is in England |
Yes,it is a fact that the total design life was 300 hours,and 47 hours
[yes,47] for those 50s in the soviet team.
BUT this was continuous aerobatics,and most flights at 9G.,and often
more.
But also remember that this was with the small fuel tank
only;generator/compressor removed,and and a MAXIMUM weight for the pilot
and chute of 100kilos-220lbs.
So the CAA is being cautious and you will see that the 600 is the
interim limit,which will be extended.
In any case each 100 hours we must remove wings;engine ;tail and then do
a detailed X-Ray and crack-test inspection.
Also,the 50 will last forever at 6G,but will not at 8/9G,particularly
with lots of fuel;extras;"big mac"style pilots etc.
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D.
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: How it is in England
Just have to hope the FAA does not get involved with this.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 5:53 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: How it is in England
Richard Goode, can you comment on this please?
So, a YAK-50 flying straight and level goes dead at 600 hours?
NICE! What the heck, over?
Mark Bitterlich
United Kingdom
Civil Aviation Authority
Issue Date: 18 September 2009
MANDATORY PERMIT DIRECTIVE
In accordance with Article 11(6)(a) of the Air Navigation
Order 2005 as amended the following action required by this Mandatory
Permit Directive (MPD) is mandatory for applicable aircraft registered
in the United Kingdom operating on a UK CAA Permit to Fly.
MPD: 2002-009R2 YAKOVLEV
Airframe Life Limitation
Yakovlev Yak-50 aeroplanes
Reason:
It has been identified that this aeroplane type is subject
to an airframe life limitation. This MPD is raised to Revision 2 to
remove references to overhaul life and relax the calendar aspect of the
airframe life limitations. In addition this revision allows an
alternative means of obtaining an airframe life extension to that
provided by Yakovlev Design Bureau (YDB) and applies a new 600 hour
interim airframe life limit which could be increased subject to
appropriate approvals.
Correspondence with the Design Authority, Yakovlev Design
Bureau (YDB), has confirmed that there is an initial airframe life limit
of 300 hours from new.
This initial 300 hour airframe life limit can be extended
to a maximum of 600 hours (interim airframe life limit) by the
implementation of an approved maintenance and inspection programme. In
the absence of airframe life extensions being granted by YDB, this 600
hour interim airframe life limit has been applied pending further review
of what maintenance and inspection programme would be appropriate to
extend the limit beyond this value.
Compliance:
Before further flight from the original effective date of
this MPD, determine the total airframe hours of the individual
aeroplane.
No action is required until the aeroplane reaches 300
airframe hours.
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Well being one of those 100 kilo pilots that tries to limit his G excursions
to 6.0 with an occasional 6.5 G.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: How it is in England
Yes,it is a fact that the total design life was 300 hours,and 47 hours
[yes,47] for those 50s in the soviet team.
BUT this was continuous aerobatics,and most flights at 9G.,and often more.
But also remember that this was with the small fuel tank
only;generator/compressor removed,and and a MAXIMUM weight for the pilot and
chute of 100kilos-220lbs.
So the CAA is being cautious and you will see that the 600 is the interim
limit,which will be extended.
In any case each 100 hours we must remove wings;engine ;tail and then do a
detailed X-Ray and crack-test inspection.
Also,the 50 will last forever at 6G,but will not at 8/9G,particularly with
lots of fuel;extras;"big mac"style pilots etc.
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D. <mailto:viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: How it is in England
Just have to hope the FAA does not get involved with this.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 5:53 PM
Subject: Yak-List: How it is in England
Richard Goode, can you comment on this please?
So, a YAK-50 flying straight and level goes dead at 600 hours? NICE! What
the heck, over?
Mark Bitterlich
United Kingdom
Civil Aviation Authority
Issue Date: 18 September 2009
MANDATORY PERMIT DIRECTIVE
In accordance with Article 11(6)(a) of the Air Navigation Order 2005 as
amended the following action required by this Mandatory Permit Directive
(MPD) is mandatory for applicable aircraft registered in the United Kingdom
operating on a UK CAA Permit to Fly.
MPD: 2002-009R2 YAKOVLEV
Airframe Life Limitation
Yakovlev Yak-50 aeroplanes
Reason:
It has been identified that this aeroplane type is subject to an airframe
life limitation. This MPD is raised to Revision 2 to remove references to
overhaul life and relax the calendar aspect of the airframe life
limitations. In addition this revision allows an alternative means of
obtaining an airframe life extension to that provided by Yakovlev Design
Bureau (YDB) and applies a new 600 hour interim airframe life limit which
could be increased subject to appropriate approvals.
Correspondence with the Design Authority, Yakovlev Design Bureau (YDB), has
confirmed that there is an initial airframe life limit of 300 hours from
new.
This initial 300 hour airframe life limit can be extended to a maximum of
600 hours (interim airframe life limit) by the implementation of an approved
maintenance and inspection programme. In the absence of airframe life
extensions being granted by YDB, this 600 hour interim airframe life limit
has been applied pending further review of what maintenance and inspection
programme would be appropriate to extend the limit beyond this value.
Compliance:
Before further flight from the original effective date of this MPD,
determine the total airframe hours of the individual aeroplane.
No action is required until the aeroplane reaches 300 airframe hours.
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All excellent points, which is why I was asking.
Knock on wood is right! Oh man.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wobschall
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: How it is in England
Sounds to me like there's a provision to extend beyond 600 hours (see
end of paragraph one in the "Reason" section). Maybe Richard knows what
"appropriate means and how to get them from the UK CAA (recurrent
inspections, etc?). We would have no such restriction in the US, knock
on wood. The life limits described by the YDB usually seem to assume
unlimited, violent Russian-style akro. Unless I'm mistaken, In the
Russian system, Yak-52 life limits could be renewed after comprehensive
inspection. They loved to keep everyone busy.
On Apr 1, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Yak Pilot wrote:
Richard Goode, can you comment on this please?
So, a YAK-50 flying straight and level goes dead at 600 hours? NICE!
What the heck, over?
Mark Bitterlich
United Kingdom
Civil Aviation Authority
Issue Date: 18 September 2009
MANDATORY PERMIT DIRECTIVE
In accordance with Article 11(6)(a) of the Air Navigation Order 2005 as
amended the following action required by this Mandatory Permit Directive
(MPD) is mandatory for applicable aircraft registered in the United
Kingdom operating on a UK CAA Permit to Fly.
MPD: 2002-009R2 YAKOVLEV
Airframe Life Limitation
Yakovlev Yak-50 aeroplanes
Reason:
It has been identified that this aeroplane type is subject to an
airframe life limitation. This MPD is raised to Revision 2 to remove
references to overhaul life and relax the calendar aspect of the
airframe life limitations. In addition this revision allows an
alternative means of obtaining an airframe life extension to that
provided by Yakovlev Design Bureau (YDB) and applies a new 600 hour
interim airframe life limit which could be increased subject to
appropriate approvals.
Correspondence with the Design Authority, Yakovlev Design Bureau (YDB),
has confirmed that there is an initial airframe life limit of 300 hours
from new.
This initial 300 hour airframe life limit can be extended to a maximum
of 600 hours (interim airframe life limit) by the implementation of an
approved maintenance and inspection programme. In the absence of
airframe life extensions being granted by YDB, this 600 hour interim
airframe life limit has been applied pending further review of what
maintenance and inspection programme would be appropriate to extend the
limit beyond this value.
Compliance:
Before further flight from the original effective date of this MPD,
determine the total airframe hours of the individual aeroplane.
No action is required until the aeroplane reaches 300 airframe hours.
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| Subject: | How it is in England |
Thank you as always Richard.
One other question. Have there been many 50's that you have seen that
have failed any of these detailed X-Ray and crack test inspections and
if so, can we see some of those results, or at least get more
knowledgeable about them?
Roger on 6G's. You listening Wizard?
"Big Mac" style pilots. I resemble that remark. Sigh....
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: How it is in England
Yes,it is a fact that the total design life was 300 hours,and 47 hours
[yes,47] for those 50s in the soviet team.
BUT this was continuous aerobatics,and most flights at 9G.,and often
more.
But also remember that this was with the small fuel tank
only;generator/compressor removed,and and a MAXIMUM weight for the pilot
and chute of 100kilos-220lbs.
So the CAA is being cautious and you will see that the 600 is the
interim limit,which will be extended.
In any case each 100 hours we must remove wings;engine ;tail and then do
a detailed X-Ray and crack-test inspection.
Also,the 50 will last forever at 6G,but will not at 8/9G,particularly
with lots of fuel;extras;"big mac"style pilots etc.
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D. <mailto:viperdoc@mindspring.com>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: How it is in England
Just have to hope the FAA does not get involved with this.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 5:53 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: How it is in England
Richard Goode, can you comment on this please?
So, a YAK-50 flying straight and level goes dead at 600 hours? NICE!
What the heck, over?
Mark Bitterlich
United Kingdom
Civil Aviation Authority
Issue Date: 18 September 2009
MANDATORY PERMIT DIRECTIVE
In accordance with Article 11(6)(a) of the Air Navigation Order 2005 as
amended the following action required by this Mandatory Permit Directive
(MPD) is mandatory for applicable aircraft registered in the United
Kingdom operating on a UK CAA Permit to Fly.
MPD: 2002-009R2 YAKOVLEV
Airframe Life Limitation
Yakovlev Yak-50 aeroplanes
Reason:
It has been identified that this aeroplane type is subject to an
airframe life limitation. This MPD is raised to Revision 2 to remove
references to overhaul life and relax the calendar aspect of the
airframe life limitations. In addition this revision allows an
alternative means of obtaining an airframe life extension to that
provided by Yakovlev Design Bureau (YDB) and applies a new 600 hour
interim airframe life limit which could be increased subject to
appropriate approvals.
Correspondence with the Design Authority, Yakovlev Design Bureau (YDB),
has confirmed that there is an initial airframe life limit of 300 hours
from new.
This initial 300 hour airframe life limit can be extended to a maximum
of 600 hours (interim airframe life limit) by the implementation of an
approved maintenance and inspection programme. In the absence of
airframe life extensions being granted by YDB, this 600 hour interim
airframe life limit has been applied pending further review of what
maintenance and inspection programme would be appropriate to extend the
limit beyond this value.
Compliance:
Before further flight from the original effective date of this MPD,
determine the total airframe hours of the individual aeroplane.
No action is required until the aeroplane reaches 300 airframe hours.
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No 50 has failed anything serious [yet!].
We are talking to our CAA and to Yakovlev in Moscow who have said they
will help with a similar programme to go beyond 600.
The real problem has been to get them to understand that it is possible
to fly a 50 for fun and not just to win a championship.
52s were different-the Soviet total life was 1500 hours,and they all had
a total remanufacture at 500 hours,with a possible extension to 600.
Then we came and took most 52s away before any had got near 1500 so no
further limit has been set!
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: How it is in England
Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
All excellent points, which is why I was asking.
Knock on wood is right! Oh man.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Wobschall
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:14 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: How it is in England
Sounds to me like there's a provision to extend beyond 600 hours (see
end of paragraph one in the "Reason" section). Maybe Richard knows
what
"appropriate means and how to get them from the UK CAA (recurrent
inspections, etc?). We would have no such restriction in the US, knock
on wood. The life limits described by the YDB usually seem to assume
unlimited, violent Russian-style akro. Unless I'm mistaken, In the
Russian system, Yak-52 life limits could be renewed after
comprehensive
inspection. They loved to keep everyone busy.
On Apr 1, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Yak Pilot wrote:
Richard Goode, can you comment on this please?
So, a YAK-50 flying straight and level goes dead at 600 hours? NICE!
What the heck, over?
Mark Bitterlich
United Kingdom
Civil Aviation Authority
Issue Date: 18 September 2009
MANDATORY PERMIT DIRECTIVE
In accordance with Article 11(6)(a) of the Air Navigation Order 2005
as
amended the following action required by this Mandatory Permit
Directive
(MPD) is mandatory for applicable aircraft registered in the United
Kingdom operating on a UK CAA Permit to Fly.
MPD: 2002-009R2 YAKOVLEV
Airframe Life Limitation
Yakovlev Yak-50 aeroplanes
Reason:
It has been identified that this aeroplane type is subject to an
airframe life limitation. This MPD is raised to Revision 2 to remove
references to overhaul life and relax the calendar aspect of the
airframe life limitations. In addition this revision allows an
alternative means of obtaining an airframe life extension to that
provided by Yakovlev Design Bureau (YDB) and applies a new 600 hour
interim airframe life limit which could be increased subject to
appropriate approvals.
Correspondence with the Design Authority, Yakovlev Design Bureau
(YDB),
has confirmed that there is an initial airframe life limit of 300
hours
from new.
This initial 300 hour airframe life limit can be extended to a maximum
of 600 hours (interim airframe life limit) by the implementation of an
approved maintenance and inspection programme. In the absence of
airframe life extensions being granted by YDB, this 600 hour interim
airframe life limit has been applied pending further review of what
maintenance and inspection programme would be appropriate to extend
the
limit beyond this value.
Compliance:
Before further flight from the original effective date of this MPD,
determine the total airframe hours of the individual aeroplane.
No action is required until the aeroplane reaches 300 airframe hours.
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THANK YOU FOR THAT INFO!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: How it is in England
No 50 has failed anything serious [yet!].
We are talking to our CAA and to Yakovlev in Moscow who have said they
will help with a similar programme to go beyond 600.
The real problem has been to get them to understand that it is possible
to fly a 50 for fun and not just to win a championship.
52s were different-the Soviet total life was 1500 hours,and they all had
a total remanufacture at 500 hours,with a possible extension to 600.
Then we came and took most 52s away before any had got near 1500 so no
further limit has been set!
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
<mailto:mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: How it is in England
Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
All excellent points, which is why I was asking.
Knock on wood is right! Oh man.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Wobschall
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:14 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: How it is in England
Sounds to me like there's a provision to extend beyond 600 hours
(see
end of paragraph one in the "Reason" section). Maybe Richard
knows what
"appropriate means and how to get them from the UK CAA
(recurrent
inspections, etc?). We would have no such restriction in the US,
knock
on wood. The life limits described by the YDB usually seem to
assume
unlimited, violent Russian-style akro. Unless I'm mistaken, In
the
Russian system, Yak-52 life limits could be renewed after
comprehensive
inspection. They loved to keep everyone busy.
On Apr 1, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Yak Pilot wrote:
Richard Goode, can you comment on this please?
So, a YAK-50 flying straight and level goes dead at 600 hours?
NICE!
What the heck, over?
Mark Bitterlich
United Kingdom
Civil Aviation Authority
Issue Date: 18 September 2009
MANDATORY PERMIT DIRECTIVE
In accordance with Article 11(6)(a) of the Air Navigation Order
2005 as
amended the following action required by this Mandatory Permit
Directive
(MPD) is mandatory for applicable aircraft registered in the
United
Kingdom operating on a UK CAA Permit to Fly.
MPD: 2002-009R2 YAKOVLEV
Airframe Life Limitation
Yakovlev Yak-50 aeroplanes
Reason:
It has been identified that this aeroplane type is subject to an
airframe life limitation. This MPD is raised to Revision 2 to
remove
references to overhaul life and relax the calendar aspect of the
airframe life limitations. In addition this revision allows an
alternative means of obtaining an airframe life extension to
that
provided by Yakovlev Design Bureau (YDB) and applies a new 600
hour
interim airframe life limit which could be increased subject to
appropriate approvals.
Correspondence with the Design Authority, Yakovlev Design Bureau
(YDB),
has confirmed that there is an initial airframe life limit of
300 hours
from new.
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maximum
of 600 hours (interim airframe life limit) by the implementation
of an
approved maintenance and inspection programme. In the absence of
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interim
airframe life limit has been applied pending further review of
what
maintenance and inspection programme would be appropriate to
extend the
limit beyond this value.
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MPD,
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| Subject: | Ignition Harness Kit |
Barry, I am just curious here. Why would you recommend the use of
Iridium plugs on an M-14 engine design? These are a rather expensive
plug design that have the main advantage of low erosion wear.. Thus they
last for a long time. However, on radial engines, the lower plugs
usually get soaked in oil before every start. My feeling is that
Iridium plugs were not really meant for that application. Honestly, I
don't know of ANY spark plug that was designed for that application
(Laugh!!) But, we deal with the belching and missing on start as part
of the normal routine. In my case, every year I pull the plugs and
check them... And then throw them right into the trash can regardless of
condition. Why? Because about $35 or $40 buys me a brand new set that
I screw right in and I'm good to go with a brand new clean set of plugs,
properly gapped and ... Away ya go! I would hesitate to throw away
Iridium plugs! How would you go about comparing standard NGK plugs to
Iridium's for example?
No question that the high quality racing wires and automotive plugs
start easy (assuming you gap them correctly!) are less expensive and the
engine runs better.
What size wire do you use and how do you connect it into the mag assy?
I guess I better ask for this off line. Must be pretty impressive at
that price!
Mark
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 4:48 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Ignition Harness Kit
Gang,
Easier starts, no plug fouling, less expensive plugs, and better
combustion...in a box. ;)
We now have ignition harness kits available. These kits are complete
with everything you need for installation except the elbow grease.
Kit is all prefabricated and ready to install when you receive it.
Turn around time 5 days.
These kits use the highest quality racing ignition wires, iridium plugs,
and machined bracket with numbered holes for the wires going into the
magneto housing. All wires are cut to length, literally no assembly of
the harness required outside of pushing the boots on the plugs.
This set up already has over 200 hours of trouble free light time.
Price: $775 with mag cap exchange, $875 outright.
Please contact me off list for photos and details.
Happy Flying,
Barry
Barry Hancock
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition Harness Kit |
I always use Iridium plugs, less chance of fouling due to the smaller area to
get shit suck in, and they cost me $4.50 each on ebay from a marine racing supplier.
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