Yak-List Digest Archive

Wed 04/07/10


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:29 AM - Re: prop still leaking after hub seals changed? (A. Dennis Savarese)
     2. 07:07 AM - Re: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds (Roger Kemp M.D.)
     3. 09:00 AM - Gill Shutters needed (Barry Hancock)
     4. 09:02 AM - Re: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds (barryhancock)
     5. 09:12 AM - Re: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     6. 11:43 AM - Re: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds (Roger Kemp M.D.)
     7. 11:57 AM - Re: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     8. 12:42 PM - Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds (pilko2)
     9. 12:51 PM - Re: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds (Mark Davis)
    10. 02:02 PM - Re: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds (Mark Davis)
    11. 04:19 PM - Re: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds (cjpilot710@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:29:42 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: prop still leaking after hub seals changed?
    No question about THAT! Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:27 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: prop still leaking after hub seals changed? Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Only thing in life that I can hold my own in. Thanks, Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:16 PM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Yak-List: prop still leaking after hub seals changed? But one hell of a sparkvark! Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:19 PM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: prop still leaking after hub seals changed? Thanks for saying it better than I could Dennis. I am a half-ass mech. Mark --- On Mon, 4/5/10, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: prop still leaking after hub seals changed? To: yak-list@matronics.com Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 1:27 PM Remove the prop dome and piston assembly. If there is oil inside the hub, the inner seal on the piston is bad (possibly incorrectly installed too) OR the seal behind the oil tube is bad or the tube is not fully tightened. Most likely it's the inner seal on the piston if there is oil pooling inside the hub. If the piston outer seal is leaking, there will be oil on the inside of the "skull cap" dome. As Mark says, check the front seal on the nose case to see if there is evidence of oil around the prop hub/flange shaft. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <http://us.mc507.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> To: yak-list@matronics.com <http://us.mc507.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=yak-list@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:36 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: prop still leaking after hub seals changed? Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil <http://us.mc507.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > I think you have an M-14 with a two blade V-530 hub correct? If so... Depends on exactly what you mean by hub seals. The ones on the prop blades are there to keep the grease in. If there is OIL coming out of THOSE prop blade flanges, it is not a bad Hub Blade seal that is the problem. It's one of the OTHER ones. If we are talking OIL, there are usually three areas of concern. 1. The large and small o'ring seals for the hub piston (you take the front hub cover off to get at these) 2. The oil control tube crush washer. This is the PIPE that screws into the front of the engine that the oil goes through to get to the hub and control the prop. This has a crush washer on the front that leaks and ends up coming out the prop area. 3. The shaft seal on the reduction gearbox...that is NOT easy to change, but does not usually go bad unless you're doing serious acro. You're going to have to determine exactly where the oil is coming from. That has been my experience... Others better versed probably have more accurate advice. I am by no means a prop expert. Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <http://us.mc507.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-yak-list-server@mat r onics.com> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of skidmk Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:20 PM To: yak-list@matronics.com <http://us.mc507.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=yak-list@matronics.com> Subject: Yak-List: prop still leaking after hub seals changed? <skidmk@gmail.com <http://us.mc507.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skidmk@gmail.com> > first couple of hours it was fine, then a little weeping... now quite a bit of oil on the vanes. any ideas? M -------- Mike &quot;Skidmk&quot; Bourget Ottawa, Ontario Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293052#293052 http://www.matronics================== ======<; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =============== =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 07:07:01 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds
    The gear last longer that way. Makes for a lighter more agile airplane too when you don't have add 10 tons of additional steel and titanium for those controlled crashes. :^)) Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Halverson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:21 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Well you have to say zoomies are consistent: they always take too long to stop. ;-) William N355YK +-----Original Message----- +From: Roger Kemp M.D. [mailto:viperdoc@mindspring.com] +Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2010 07:29 PM + +Yes, Fly Navy.from deep blue postage stamp to deep blue postage stamp all +the while sleeping with a bunch of guys in a closet. I prefer my runways +long and stable not moving all the while trying to kill me. I prefer my +linens clean and cool in MY Q room not warm and freshly slept in. I prefer +to have a cold beer at the end of a Sierra Hotel sortie not having to wait +until the boat slides into her port of call a month after that Shit Hot +sortie. + +Go Air Force! + +Vipers forever! + +Doc + + + +From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com +Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds + +Too bad you have to settle for a second rate team. Maybe the Blues will be +there next year..... + +(Sorry, but a target of opportunity can't be passed up!) : ) + + + +Have fun. + + + +Fly Navy! + +Mark Davis + +N44YK


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    Time: 09:00:08 AM PST US
    From: Barry Hancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
    Subject: Gill Shutters needed
    Gang, If anyone has new or very low time Yak-18T, Yak-55, or Yak-52 gill shutters available, please contact me off list. Thanks! Barry Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. www.worldwidewarbirds.com (909) 606-4444 office (949) 300-5510 cell "Making your aviation dreams a reality." L-39 video: http://gallery.me.com/bdogltd#100140


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    Time: 09:02:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds
    From: "barryhancock" <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
    Elizabeth, Congrats! Are they letting you bring your rabbit? Barry -------- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. (909) 606-4444 www.worldwidewarbirds.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293350#293350


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    Time: 09:12:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Doc, you just defined the differences between the services perfectly. One service prefers to put fighting the war first. Get close, get dirty, get er done. Another service asks if their linens are ready, if the runway is long enough, if the Q room is warm or cool, whether the beer is cold, and make ABSOLUTELY sure no one is trying to actually kill you, and then maybe that service will participate....And then write themselves up for a bunch of air medals in the process. GO AIR FORCE! You betcha! -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:29 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Yes, Fly Navy...from deep blue postage stamp to deep blue postage stamp all the while sleeping with a bunch of guys in a closet. I prefer my runways long and stable not moving all the while trying to kill me. I prefer my linens clean and cool in MY Q room not warm and freshly slept in. I prefer to have a cold beer at the end of a Sierra Hotel sortie not having to wait until the boat slides into her port of call a month after that Shit Hot sortie. Go Air Force! Vipers forever! Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Too bad you have to settle for a second rate team. Maybe the Blues will be there next year..... (Sorry, but a target of opportunity can't be passed up!) : ) Have fun. Fly Navy! Mark Davis N44YK ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Rizzo <mailto:elizabethrizzosaysit@yahoo.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Folks, Sorry this is OT, but wanted to share with you that I was selected to ride with the USAF Thunderbirds at Sun n Fun. I will be in Thunderbird #8 taking off about 2:00pm on Thursday April 15th. Give me a thumbs up! Sierra-Hotel! Elizabeth Rizzo href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?Yak-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 11:43:29 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds
    Nobody said anything about the Danged Marines...you guys don't know the difference between clean linen or not. Just turn it inside out and wear a couple of more days. :^)) Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:11 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Doc, you just defined the differences between the services perfectly. One service prefers to put fighting the war first. Get close, get dirty, get er done. Another service asks if their linens are ready, if the runway is long enough, if the Q room is warm or cool, whether the beer is cold, and make ABSOLUTELY sure no one is trying to actually kill you, and then maybe that service will participate....And then write themselves up for a bunch of air medals in the process. GO AIR FORCE! You betcha! -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:29 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Yes, Fly Navy...from deep blue postage stamp to deep blue postage stamp all the while sleeping with a bunch of guys in a closet. I prefer my runways long and stable not moving all the while trying to kill me. I prefer my linens clean and cool in MY Q room not warm and freshly slept in. I prefer to have a cold beer at the end of a Sierra Hotel sortie not having to wait until the boat slides into her port of call a month after that Shit Hot sortie. Go Air Force! Vipers forever! Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Too bad you have to settle for a second rate team. Maybe the Blues will be there next year..... (Sorry, but a target of opportunity can't be passed up!) : ) Have fun. Fly Navy! Mark Davis N44YK ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Rizzo <mailto:elizabethrizzosaysit@yahoo.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Folks, Sorry this is OT, but wanted to share with you that I was selected to ride with the USAF Thunderbirds at Sun n Fun. I will be in Thunderbird #8 taking off about 2:00pm on Thursday April 15th. Give me a thumbs up! Sierra-Hotel! Elizabeth Rizzo href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?Yak-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 11:57:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Absolutely correct. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:37 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds --> <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Nobody said anything about the Danged Marines...you guys don't know the difference between clean linen or not. Just turn it inside out and wear a couple of more days. :^)) Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:11 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds --> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Doc, you just defined the differences between the services perfectly. One service prefers to put fighting the war first. Get close, get dirty, get er done. Another service asks if their linens are ready, if the runway is long enough, if the Q room is warm or cool, whether the beer is cold, and make ABSOLUTELY sure no one is trying to actually kill you, and then maybe that service will participate....And then write themselves up for a bunch of air medals in the process. GO AIR FORCE! You betcha! -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:29 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Yes, Fly Navy...from deep blue postage stamp to deep blue postage stamp all the while sleeping with a bunch of guys in a closet. I prefer my runways long and stable not moving all the while trying to kill me. I prefer my linens clean and cool in MY Q room not warm and freshly slept in. I prefer to have a cold beer at the end of a Sierra Hotel sortie not having to wait until the boat slides into her port of call a month after that Shit Hot sortie. Go Air Force! Vipers forever! Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Too bad you have to settle for a second rate team. Maybe the Blues will be there next year..... (Sorry, but a target of opportunity can't be passed up!) : ) Have fun. Fly Navy! Mark Davis N44YK ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Rizzo <mailto:elizabethrizzosaysit@yahoo.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Folks, Sorry this is OT, but wanted to share with you that I was selected to ride with the USAF Thunderbirds at Sun n Fun. I will be in Thunderbird #8 taking off about 2:00pm on Thursday April 15th. Give me a thumbs up! Sierra-Hotel! Elizabeth Rizzo href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?Yak-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 12:42:47 PM PST US
    From: "pilko2" <pilko2@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds
    Wasn't Eleanor Roosevelt quoted as saying ....."The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen". Perhaps standard have slipped since 1945...... sic -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: 07 April 2010 19:57 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds --> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Absolutely correct. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:37 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds --> <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Nobody said anything about the Danged Marines...you guys don't know the difference between clean linen or not. Just turn it inside out and wear a couple of more days. :^)) Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:11 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds --> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Doc, you just defined the differences between the services perfectly. One service prefers to put fighting the war first. Get close, get dirty, get er done. Another service asks if their linens are ready, if the runway is long enough, if the Q room is warm or cool, whether the beer is cold, and make ABSOLUTELY sure no one is trying to actually kill you, and then maybe that service will participate....And then write themselves up for a bunch of air medals in the process. GO AIR FORCE! You betcha! -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:29 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Yes, Fly Navy...from deep blue postage stamp to deep blue postage stamp all the while sleeping with a bunch of guys in a closet. I prefer my runways long and stable not moving all the while trying to kill me. I prefer my linens clean and cool in MY Q room not warm and freshly slept in. I prefer to have a cold beer at the end of a Sierra Hotel sortie not having to wait until the boat slides into her port of call a month after that Shit Hot sortie. Go Air Force! Vipers forever! Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Too bad you have to settle for a second rate team. Maybe the Blues will be there next year..... (Sorry, but a target of opportunity can't be passed up!) : ) Have fun. Fly Navy! Mark Davis N44YK ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Rizzo <mailto:elizabethrizzosaysit@yahoo.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Folks, Sorry this is OT, but wanted to share with you that I was selected to ride with the USAF Thunderbirds at Sun n Fun. I will be in Thunderbird #8 taking off about 2:00pm on Thursday April 15th. Give me a thumbs up! Sierra-Hotel! Elizabeth Rizzo href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?Yak-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 12:51:15 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Davis" <mark@pld.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds
    Mark, That reminds me of the procedures at NAS Kingsville when we had an FCLP pattern full on the parallel 13's. If a T-38 out of SAT came down for an approach (the approach was set up for13L) we had to delta our students overhead until the -38 was out of the way. Rwy 13R met the 8,000' minimum, but 13L was a dangerously short 7,998'. The tower called us and told us to get our flock out of the way. Lots of LSO's had sunburned middle fingers...... Mark Davis N44YK Former Guntrain Paddles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds > MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > Doc, you just defined the differences between the services perfectly. > > One service prefers to put fighting the war first. Get close, get > dirty, get er done. > > Another service asks if their linens are ready, if the runway is long > enough, if the Q room is warm or cool, whether the beer is cold, and > make ABSOLUTELY sure no one is trying to actually kill you, and then > maybe that service will participate....And then write themselves up for > a bunch of air medals in the process. > > GO AIR FORCE! > > You betcha! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp > M.D. > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:29 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds > > Yes, Fly Navy...from deep blue postage stamp to deep blue postage stamp > all the while sleeping with a bunch of guys in a closet. I prefer my > runways long and stable not moving all the while trying to kill me. I > prefer my linens clean and cool in MY Q room not warm and freshly slept > in. I prefer to have a cold beer at the end of a Sierra Hotel sortie not > having to wait until the boat slides into her port of call a month after > that Shit Hot sortie. > > Go Air Force! > > Vipers forever! > > Doc > > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:47 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds > > > Too bad you have to settle for a second rate team. Maybe the Blues will > be there next year..... > > > (Sorry, but a target of opportunity can't be passed up!) : ) > > > Have fun. > > > Fly Navy! > > Mark Davis > > N44YK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Elizabeth Rizzo <mailto:elizabethrizzosaysit@yahoo.com> > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:15 AM > > Subject: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds > > > Folks, > > Sorry this is OT, but wanted to share with you that I was selected to > ride with the USAF Thunderbirds at Sun n Fun. > > I will be in Thunderbird #8 taking off about 2:00pm on Thursday April > 15th. > > Give me a thumbs up! Sierra-Hotel! > > Elizabeth Rizzo > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics. > com/Navigator?Yak-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > >


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    Time: 02:02:08 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Davis" <mark@pld.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds
    Mark, I always got a kick out of the procurement process. The Air Force got new stuff, turned it over to the Navy when they spiffed up their facilities, then when a leg or two was busted off of a table or chair, it went to the Marines. Most JO quarters on an AFB were nicer than senior officer quarters on any NAS. Maybe nicer than flag quarters. Made most AFB's a great RON. Kept Beaufort off of the list of favorites! Mark Davis N44YK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds > MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > Doc, you just defined the differences between the services perfectly. > > One service prefers to put fighting the war first. Get close, get > dirty, get er done. > > Another service asks if their linens are ready, if the runway is long > enough, if the Q room is warm or cool, whether the beer is cold, and > make ABSOLUTELY sure no one is trying to actually kill you, and then > maybe that service will participate....And then write themselves up for > a bunch of air medals in the process. > > GO AIR FORCE! > > You betcha! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp > M.D. > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:29 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds > > Yes, Fly Navy...from deep blue postage stamp to deep blue postage stamp > all the while sleeping with a bunch of guys in a closet. I prefer my > runways long and stable not moving all the while trying to kill me. I > prefer my linens clean and cool in MY Q room not warm and freshly slept > in. I prefer to have a cold beer at the end of a Sierra Hotel sortie not > having to wait until the boat slides into her port of call a month after > that Shit Hot sortie. > > Go Air Force! > > Vipers forever! > > Doc > > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:47 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds > > > Too bad you have to settle for a second rate team. Maybe the Blues will > be there next year..... > > > (Sorry, but a target of opportunity can't be passed up!) : ) > > > Have fun. > > > Fly Navy! > > Mark Davis > > N44YK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Elizabeth Rizzo <mailto:elizabethrizzosaysit@yahoo.com> > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:15 AM > > Subject: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds > > > Folks, > > Sorry this is OT, but wanted to share with you that I was selected to > ride with the USAF Thunderbirds at Sun n Fun. > > I will be in Thunderbird #8 taking off about 2:00pm on Thursday April > 15th. > > Give me a thumbs up! Sierra-Hotel! > > Elizabeth Rizzo > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics. > com/Navigator?Yak-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > >


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    Time: 04:19:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Hmmmm. The oldest honorable service of the United States of America has always been the lowly GI (i.e. Army). Our first commander was none other than GW. We had the first ballown and we also had the first airplane. The rest is just history. Navy, Marines, and Air Force? Just specialized trained oddities. ;>} Pappy -----Original Message----- From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlic h@navy.mil> Sent: Wed, Apr 7, 2010 2:56 pm Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds ALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Absolutely correct. -----Original Message----- rom: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp .D. ent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:37 PM o: yak-list@matronics.com ubject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds -> <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Nobody said anything about the Danged Marines...you guys don't know the ifference between clean linen or not. Just turn it inside out and wear couple of more days. ^)) oc -----Original Message----- rom: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, ark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E ent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:11 AM o: yak-list@matronics.com ubject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds -> Point, ALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Doc, you just defined the differences between the services perfectly. One service prefers to put fighting the war first. Get close, get irty, get er done. Another service asks if their linens are ready, if the runway is long nough, if the Q room is warm or cool, whether the beer is cold, and ake ABSOLUTELY sure no one is trying to actually kill you, and then aybe that service will participate....And then write themselves up for bunch of air medals in the process. GO AIR FORCE! You betcha! ----Original Message----- rom: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp .D. ent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:29 PM o: yak-list@matronics.com ubject: RE: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Yes, Fly Navy...from deep blue postage stamp to deep blue postage stamp ll the while sleeping with a bunch of guys in a closet. I prefer my unways long and stable not moving all the while trying to kill me. I refer my linens clean and cool in MY Q room not warm and freshly slept n. I prefer to have a cold beer at the end of a Sierra Hotel sortie not aving to wait until the boat slides into her port of call a month after hat Shit Hot sortie. Go Air Force! Vipers forever! Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis ent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:47 PM o: yak-list@matronics.com ubject: Re: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Too bad you have to settle for a second rate team. Maybe the Blues will e there next year..... (Sorry, but a target of opportunity can't be passed up!) : ) Have fun. Fly Navy! Mark Davis N44YK ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Rizzo <mailto:elizabethrizzosaysit@yahoo.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: Yak-List: Sun n Fun, and the Thunderbirds Folks, Sorry this is OT, but wanted to share with you that I was selected to ide with the USAF Thunderbirds at Sun n Fun. I will be in Thunderbird #8 taking off about 2:00pm on Thursday April 5th. Give me a thumbs up! Sierra-Hotel! Elizabeth Rizzo ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics. om/Navigator?Yak-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ttp://forums.matronics.com ttp://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The Yak-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== ===========




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