---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/26/10: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:43 AM - Re: Re: Power (Eric Wobschall) 2. 05:34 AM - Power (Russ) 3. 06:57 AM - Re: Power (N642K) 4. 07:52 AM - Re: Re: Power (Mark Davis) 5. 04:02 PM - Mo' power (Cpayne) 6. 05:06 PM - Re: How old is too old? (Pete Fowler) 7. 05:32 PM - Re: How old is too old? (keithmckinley) 8. 05:44 PM - Cockpit mounted video cameras (Mark Davis) 9. 06:21 PM - Re: Cockpit mounted video cameras (Eric Wobschall) 10. 06:39 PM - Re: Cockpit mounted video cameras (David McGirt) 11. 06:59 PM - Re: Cockpit mounted video cameras (Roger Kemp M.D.) 12. 06:59 PM - Re: Cockpit mounted video cameras (Roger Kemp M.D.) 13. 07:36 PM - Re: Cockpit mounted video cameras (Herb Coussons) 14. 07:38 PM - Re: Re: How old is too old? (alikatz@mbay.net) 15. 07:38 PM - Re: Re: How old is too old? (n4829t@aol.com) 16. 08:03 PM - Re: Re: How old is too old? (n4829t@aol.com) 17. 08:35 PM - Re: How old is too old? (Pete Fowler) 18. 09:40 PM - Re: Re: How old is too old? (cjpilot710@aol.com) 19. 09:46 PM - Re: Cockpit mounted video cameras (Tom Elliott) 20. 10:49 PM - Re: Cockpit mounted video cameras (Didier Blouzard) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:19 AM PST US From: Eric Wobschall Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Power I'll remember #1 when I'm relining my brakes. On Apr 25, 2010, at 10:50 PM, N642K wrote: > > My two rules: > > 1. Money spent on the airplane always makes them faster and sexier. > 2. Never do math in public. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295710#295710 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:36 AM PST US From: "Russ" Subject: Yak-List: Power Search the archives: Brian L. has had this discussion several times. Russ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:03 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Power From: "N642K" Work with me here. Spending money on relining your brakes will make you stop faster. [Wink] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295742#295742 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:43 AM PST US From: "Mark Davis" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Power It also helps the airplane retain its snazzy appearance by not running off the end of the runway into a ditch or taxiing into a gas pump. Mark Davis N44YK ----- Original Message ----- From: "N642K" Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:56 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Power > > Work with me here. > > Spending money on relining your brakes will make you stop faster. > > [Wink] > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295742#295742 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:19 PM PST US From: Cpayne Subject: Yak-List: Mo' power Engine power is a function of many things, no need to name them all except to point out that engine output never stays the same. Even engines with computer controlled mixture, ignition timing, and variable valve timing degrade over time. Our Huosai and M-14 engines seldom produce what they are capable of due to tuning, carbon accumulation, and atmospheric differences. The stock M-14P output is specified as a range of power. The nominal 360HP is towards the bottom of that range, AT TIME OF OVERHAUL. MORE power is possible as the result of both what we might call "tuning" and what Gear Heads call Tuning. "Tuners", as they are called, take a broad approach to tweeking out the horsepower that a given engine may yield. Even so, power generated is not power delivered. Propeller and gearbox losses erode the thrust generated. Then there is heat, and aerodynamic drag. One well known Tuner like Barrett Precision Engines goes to such lengths as to micro-polish the gears in the prop re-drive to reduce friction, lower heat and deliver more power. Without paying attention to tuning details, bolt-on horsepower may not be what is advertised for your engine. Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:48 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: How old is too old? From: "Pete Fowler" This is pretty hard to photograph. Here's one photo and a link to some more on line. What I'm looking at are the "dents" that are on the flat panels between the rivets. There is one set that run around the fuselage just in front of the horizontal stab. In the online gallery, you can click the photos to see them bigger. I've seen similar dents in similar locations one one side or the other on some Nanchangs but not in this quantity. http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/nasa+racer/Nanchang+tail/ -------- N4183E http://nanchangcjs.yuku.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295797#295797 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1000790_191.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:32:49 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: How old is too old? From: "keithmckinley" Those "dents" always look worse with a sweet shiny paint job like yours especially when looking down the side like your photo. Your plane looks like every other CJ I've ever seen including my own. Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295799#295799 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:52 PM PST US From: "Mark Davis" Subject: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras What is everyone using for small video equipment as either a helmet camera mount or gun camera mount? I'm not looking for anything to make professional videos with, just something to record formation/extended trail/maybe a little ACM then analyze under the influence of cold beverages afterward. An audio input would be nice but not a necessity. Durability, ease of operation in the cockpit and size/weight are the most important things I'm looking for. Thanks, Mark Davis N44YK ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:54 PM PST US From: Eric Wobschall Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras Rick Volker uses the VIO POV. On Apr 26, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Mark Davis wrote: > What is everyone using for small video equipment as either a > helmet camera mount or gun camera mount? I'm not looking for > anything to make professional videos with, just something to record > formation/extended trail/maybe a little ACM then analyze under the > influence of cold beverages afterward. An audio input would be nice > but not a necessity. Durability, ease of operation in the cockpit > and size/weight are the most important things I'm looking for. > > Thanks, > Mark Davis > N44YK > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:39:50 PM PST US From: "David McGirt" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras Mark, I have recently started using this little guy.. 1080p , and EXTREMELY flexible in where you can put it. Have mounted on helmet, on the wings, under the wings, tail, just using the suction cup mount.. the last test for it was on the COWL of #3 of Aeroshell during the night show.. it will stay anywhere you put it.. http://vholdr.com/contourhd/helmetcam From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:43 PM Subject: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras What is everyone using for small video equipment as either a helmet camera mount or gun camera mount? I'm not looking for anything to make professional videos with, just something to record formation/extended trail/maybe a little ACM then analyze under the influence of cold beverages afterward. An audio input would be nice but not a necessity. Durability, ease of operation in the cockpit and size/weight are the most important things I'm looking for. Thanks, Mark Davis N44YK ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:12 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Subject: RE: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras Hey Talon, how about posting some of the videos. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McGirt Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras Mark, I have recently started using this little guy.. 1080p , and EXTREMELY flexible in where you can put it. Have mounted on helmet, on the wings, under the wings, tail, just using the suction cup mount.. the last test for it was on the COWL of #3 of Aeroshell during the night show.. it will stay anywhere you put it.. http://vholdr.com/contourhd/helmetcam From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:43 PM Subject: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras What is everyone using for small video equipment as either a helmet camera mount or gun camera mount? I'm not looking for anything to make professional videos with, just something to record formation/extended trail/maybe a little ACM then analyze under the influence of cold beverages afterward. An audio input would be nice but not a necessity. Durability, ease of operation in the cockpit and size/weight are the most important things I'm looking for. Thanks, Mark Davis N44YK http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:58 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Subject: RE: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras Mark, I have not purchased one yet but this is the one the David McGirt recommends. The Contourhd 1080p. He has made some pretty good videos using these cameras. I use a Samsung mini cam with a lipstick external camera. The battery is only good for about 30 - 45 min and it is not overly user friendly either. This is one slid on and one slide off. Doc http://helmetcameracentral.com/2009/09/29/contourhd1080p-review-full-hd-wear able-camcorder From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:43 PM Subject: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras What is everyone using for small video equipment as either a helmet camera mount or gun camera mount? I'm not looking for anything to make professional videos with, just something to record formation/extended trail/maybe a little ACM then analyze under the influence of cold beverages afterward. An audio input would be nice but not a necessity. Durability, ease of operation in the cockpit and size/weight are the most important things I'm looking for. Thanks, Mark Davis N44YK ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:49 PM PST US From: Herb Coussons Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras 4 lipstick cameras Feed into small multiplexor Single out from multiplexor to a portable 40 GB HD. Intercom wired into multiplexor for audio. Both multiplexor and harddrive have ship's power. Total weight incluing wiring - about 4 pounds. A 30 minute flight takes up about 400mb. I can store about a 50 minute flight on a CD for the passenger to watch on any computer with Quicktime or RealPlayer. I have about $600 in the system. Herb On Apr 26, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Mark Davis wrote: > What is everyone using for small video equipment as either a helmet camera mount or gun camera mount? I'm not looking for anything to make professional videos with, just something to record formation/extended trail/maybe a little ACM then analyze under the influence of cold beverages afterward. An audio input would be nice but not a necessity. Durability, ease of operation in the cockpit and size/weight are the most important things I'm looking for. > > Thanks, > Mark Davis > N44YK > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:30 PM PST US From: alikatz@mbay.net Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: How old is too old? I agree with Keith, I Honestly don't see a problem with the aircraft Pete.. Quoting keithmckinley : > > Those "dents" always look worse with a sweet shiny paint job like > yours especially when looking down the side like your photo. Your > plane looks like every other CJ I've ever seen including my own. > > Keith > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295799#295799 > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: How old is too old? From: n4829t@aol.com What year is your CJ? ------Original Message------ From: Pete Fowler Sender: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Re: How old is too old? Sent: Apr 26, 2010 8:05 PM This is pretty hard to photograph. Here's one photo and a link to some more on line. What I'm looking at are the "dents" that are on the flat panels between the rivets. There is one set that run around the fuselage just in front of the horizontal stab. In the online gallery, you can click the photos to see them bigger. I've seen similar dents in similar locations one one side or the other on some Nanchangs but not in this quantity. http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/nasa+racer/Nanchang+tail/ -------- N4183E http://nanchangcjs.yuku.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295797#295797 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1000790_191.jpg Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: How old is too old? From: n4829t@aol.com I have a 1962 CJ with about 4300TT... I have the same dents and have seen many others with the same. Does anyone out there have a 1962 or older? Regs, Jim P. ------Original Message------ From: alikatz@mbay.net Sender: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: How old is too old? Sent: Apr 26, 2010 10:28 PM I agree with Keith, I Honestly don't see a problem with the aircraft Pete.. Quoting keithmckinley : > > Those "dents" always look worse with a sweet shiny paint job like > yours especially when looking down the side like your photo. Your > plane looks like every other CJ I've ever seen including my own. > > Keith > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295799#295799 > > Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:11 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: How old is too old? From: "Pete Fowler" Mine is a 1966 plane. -------- N4183E http://nanchangcjs.yuku.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295833#295833 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: How old is too old? From: cjpilot710@aol.com CJ-6 production was started in 1962. As far as I know there was only one CJ here in the US that was built in 1962. It belonged to Jim Plumy I bel ieve. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby -----Original Message----- From: Pete Fowler Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:34 pm Subject: Yak-List: Re: How old is too old? Mine is a 1966 plane. -------- 4183E ttp://nanchangcjs.yuku.com/ ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295833#295833 ======================== =========== -= - The Yak-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:46:48 PM PST US From: "Tom Elliott" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras Goggle DATATOYS Tom Elliott CJ-6A NX63727 702-595-2680 _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:55 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras Mark, I have not purchased one yet but this is the one the David McGirt recommends. The Contourhd 1080p. He has made some pretty good videos using these cameras. I use a Samsung mini cam with a lipstick external camera. The battery is only good for about 30 - 45 min and it is not overly user friendly either. This is one slid on and one slide off. Doc http://helmetcameracentral.com/2009/09/29/contourhd1080p-review-full-hd-wear able-camcorder From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:43 PM Subject: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras What is everyone using for small video equipment as either a helmet camera mount or gun camera mount? I'm not looking for anything to make professional videos with, just something to record formation/extended trail/maybe a little ACM then analyze under the influence of cold beverages afterward. An audio input would be nice but not a necessity. Durability, ease of operation in the cockpit and size/weight are the most important things I'm looking for. Thanks, Mark Davis N44YK http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:33 PM PST US From: Didier Blouzard Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cockpit mounted video cameras GoPro full HD camera films and Pics 30 and 60 fps great toy Using it with the suction cup on the wing shock resistant, waterproof etc.... Didier 2010/4/27 Mark Davis > What is everyone using for small video equipment as either a helmet > camera mount or gun camera mount? I'm not looking for anything to make > professional videos with, just something to record formation/extended > trail/maybe a little ACM then analyze under the influence of cold beverages > afterward. An audio input would be nice but not a necessity. Durability, > ease of operation in the cockpit and size/weight are the most important > things I'm looking for. > > Thanks, > Mark Davis > N44YK > > * > > * > > -- Didier BLOUZARD didier.blouzard@gmail.com 0624243672 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.