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1. 06:14 AM - Re: (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 07:52 AM - air starting solenoid (T A LEWIS)
3. 10:51 AM - Re: (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
4. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: (KingCJ6@aol.com)
5. 11:32 AM - Re: Re: (doug sapp)
6. 11:41 AM - Re: air starting solenoid (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 03:29 PM - Exchange rate (Cpayne)
8. 04:08 PM - air start valve (T A LEWIS)
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Terry,
What is the symptom with the starting coil? No spark to the magneto
cap? If so, definitely check the starting coil wire to the mag cap
first. Many times the wire itself is bad, as the rubber casing
deteriorates over time and the wire tends to arc to ground before the
spark gets into the mag cap. If you've determined the starting coil
wire is good, then check the points under the top cover of the starting
coil. Many times you will find they have a mound on them, preventing
the points to close flush. Dress the points with a point file or
similar file. Then with the starting coil wire held close to ground
(approx. 1/2" or so), the spark should jump to ground when the start
button is pressed. BTW, before you press the start button to test this,
to prevent engine rotation turn the main air off and squeeze the brake
handle until you can not hear any air exhausting when you release the
brakes. That way when you press the start button, all you'll get is the
spark from the starting coil. No engine rotation. Adjust the point
gap with the knurled screw near the points (it probably has some thread
locker on it) until you see the spark jump about 1/2" to ground at the
end of the staring coil wire. If the wire is good and the points are
clean and you can not get the spark to jump about 1/2" at the end of the
starting coil wire, the coil assembly is most likely bad. Call Doug for
a new one.
Hope this helps,
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: T A LEWIS
To: yak list
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:23 PM
Hi,
Can some one tell me the proper way to adjust the coil on the cj-6a
starter .
Thanks,
Terry
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| Subject: | air starting solenoid |
Dennis,
I could have been a little more descriptive of the problem .
The solenoid on this air valve does not always open . I am thinking
that there is an adjustment of the top part of this valve .
Thanks,
Terry
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Terry,
I believe the starter solenoid on the CJ-6 is the same as the YAK-50.
There are two types, one without the external actuator lever and one
with. The guts inside are the same on both. They are not adjustable.
However, you can take them apart and clean them and usually get a little
more life from the things. I did that and managed to get another two
years out of one, but eventually had to replace it.
You can take the guts out of one without the external lever and put them
into one WITH the external lever if you want to.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of T A LEWIS
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:24 PM
Subject:
Hi,
Can some one tell me the proper way to adjust the coil on the cj-6a
starter .
Thanks,
Terry
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Before taking it apart, try flushing it out. Inject WD-40, MMO or some
thin cleaner in the air line going in to the unit, remove the air out line,
pressurize the system and push the start/pull the lever and hold a cloth to
catch the debris. Repeat 2-3 times.
Dave
In a message dated 5/14/2010 10:51:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
mark.bitterlich@navy.mil writes:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Terry,
I believe the starter solenoid on the CJ-6 is the same as the YAK-50.
There are two types, one without the external actuator lever and one
with. The guts inside are the same on both. They are not adjustable.
However, you can take them apart and clean them and usually get a little
more life from the things. I did that and managed to get another two
years out of one, but eventually had to replace it.
You can take the guts out of one without the external lever and put them
into one WITH the external lever if you want to.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of T A LEWIS
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:24 PM
Subject:
Hi,
Can some one tell me the proper way to adjust the coil on the cj-6a
starter .
Thanks,
Terry
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Guys,
Remove the hose FROM the start spider on the engine, Tie wrap a
shop towel around this end of the hose and let it hang down, next fill the
line going TO the solenoid with WD40, then hit the button or depress the
lever. This will flush out the solenoid. This will help if your problem is
junk in the system, but will not help if your problem is in the electrical
portion of the valve (which it normally is).
I have them new in stock if needed.
Doug
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Terry,
>
> I believe the starter solenoid on the CJ-6 is the same as the YAK-50.
> There are two types, one without the external actuator lever and one
> with. The guts inside are the same on both. They are not adjustable.
>
> However, you can take them apart and clean them and usually get a little
> more life from the things. I did that and managed to get another two
> years out of one, but eventually had to replace it.
>
> You can take the guts out of one without the external lever and put them
> into one WITH the external lever if you want to.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of T A LEWIS
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:24 PM
> To: yak list
> Subject:
>
>
> Hi,
> Can some one tell me the proper way to adjust the coil on the cj-6a
> starter .
> Thanks,
> Terry
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: air starting solenoid |
No, the air start valve does not have an adjustment. You may be able to
disassemble and clean as it sometimes gets gunked up.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: T A LEWIS
To: yak list
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:10 AM
Subject: Yak-List: air starting solenoid
Dennis ,
I could have been a little more descriptive of the problem .
The solenoid on this air valve does not always open . I am thinking
that there is an adjustment of the top part of this valve .
Thanks,
Terry
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Closely watching the Euro/USD exchange rate come down...I have had a shopping list
ready for a while now for M-14P parts, props, etc. Hoping for a level-off
at a price-point favorable to a po' boy.
But, just like gasoline, prices always shoot up at 10X the speed of downtrends.
Perhaps the answer will be aftermarket parts "Made in USA". Seems to some evidence
of that happening now.
Craig Payne
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Thanks to all who who had sugestions on the possible fix to this problem.
I'll start tomorrowusing your input and let you know what I found .
Again thanks !
Terry
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