---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/27/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:26 AM - Re: Re: Yak 55 B/C alternator installation wiring (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E) 2. 09:52 AM - YAK 18T (SC) 3. 10:06 AM - Re: YAK 18T (doug sapp) 4. 04:34 PM - AD's on Certified Engines and props in Experimental Aircraft (Yak Pilot) 5. 06:02 PM - YAK and the Greatest of Times (Frank) 6. 07:49 PM - Re: YAK and the Greatest of Times (Rick Basiliere) 7. 08:13 PM - Re: AD's on Certified Engines and props in Experimental Aircraft (Dale) 8. 09:09 PM - Re: YAK and the Greatest of Times (Dale) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:19 AM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Yak 55 B/C alternator installation wiring From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" Just a short note Shawn. The YAK-50 and the YAK-52 generator layout and control is almost identical. The only real difference is that the YAK-52 has an external bias potentiometer that is located in the cockpit that allows the pilot to "tweak" the generator output voltage. The YAK-50 does not have this feature, although it could be added if desired as all the parts are on the Voltage Regulator to allow it. So far, it appears that the 55 is a little different. I'll write back to you on this directly Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shawn J Burwell Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak 55 B/C alternator installation wiring Hello Mark, I`m installing the 35 amp system. I believe that your reverse current relay/over current device may be the same thing as the hi/lo gen relay. gray metal box mounted on cockpit side of the firewall, has two elect. cannon plugs and a red reset button. At this point I`m working on locating a Yak 55 schematic. I do know that the 55 is wired more along the lines of the Yak 50 and not as complex as the 52. If you need any more info just ask and I`ll try to assist . Thanks Shawn Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298989#298989 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:50 AM PST US From: "SC" Subject: Yak-List: YAK 18T Still looking for following parts if anybody can help please: Original intercom amplifier box Original red glass beacon for vertical stabiliser (glass and bulbs will do) Original Yak lower shoulder belts that attach to waist buckle (4) Small clear lens for landing gear strut lights Now waiting for DAR visit so keep your fingers crossed for us ! BigglesUSA ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:01 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK 18T From: doug sapp Anyone know if the small landing gear strut light lens is the same as used on the CJ6? If yes, I have them in stock. Doug On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:52 AM, SC wrote: > *Still looking for following parts if anybody can help please:* > > *Original intercom amplifier box* > > *Original red glass beacon for vertical stabiliser (glass and bulbs will > do)* > > *Original Yak lower shoulder belts that attach to waist buckle (4)* > > *Small clear lens for landing gear strut lights* > > * * > > *Now waiting for DAR visit so keep your fingers crossed for us !* > > * * > > *BigglesUSA* > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:25 PM PST US From: Yak Pilot Subject: Yak-List: AD's on Certified Engines and props in Experimental Aircraft Gents, I need to add some more to the story on AD's being performed on engines and props installed that are certificated and installed in Experimental Aircraft. The EAA is well aware of the Memo that I posted recently and refer to it as "infamous". Basically the EAA's take is that an AD clearly makes the operator aware that there is a problem with a part in the aircraft. Further operation without addressing the safety issue is illegal in that you are now knowingly operating an aircraft with a documented safety defect. But that does not mean you have to comply with the AD exactly as it is written. For example, if you had an AD on an engine mag, and instead of complying with the AD, you simply tossed the mag, and installed a Electronic Ignition System. By doing this, you have addressed the intent of the AD and have removed the part that was causing the whole issue to begin with. I am not surprised that the EAA explains it this way, because... it makes sense. The EAA usually makes sense. The local FAA FSDO's tend to fail in that regard. So, the exact wording in the Memo is only one person's opinion (a quote from the EAA) and it is generally accepted that an Experimental Aircraft does not have to COMPLY with an AD, per se that is ... but on the other hand, the substance of the AD must be paid attention to and the safety issue it points out must somehow be addressed. So ... once again, the local FSDO is "interpreting" and they are doing it in a way that differs from location to location. This is not legal and is being addressed. There is only one interpretation, and the EAA is going to help determine what that is. The same thing applies to having to have a Pilot's Operating Handbook in a Experimental Aircraft. My particular FSDO is treating my Experimental aircraft as if it was a production certified model. This is wrong, and also needs to be addressed... carefully. I am currently awaiting advice from the EAA, which I plan on following. Another tidbit. Unsolicited advice. If the FAA walks out to your aircraft as you are getting ready to fly with a group of safety inspectors... cancel the flight. Tell them you want to speak in a private office and not in front of a crowd. Sit at a table and think carefully what they are asking you and what you are telling them. By and large, the odds are they are not there to help you. If the FAA gent says: "Just call me Tim", you tell him, just call me "Mr Bitterlich". Keep it formal. These folks are not your friends. When I asked if I could say something off the record, the response was: "Everything you say is on the record". And it was.... always keep that in mind. Everything is on the record. And it applies to them as well. Mark p.s. I now have personal experience giving media rides. I am not ever going to do it again, and if anyone at an airshow asks why, I will be more than happy to tell them. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:33 PM PST US From: "Frank" Subject: Yak-List: YAK and the Greatest of Times Just a quick word to the list to say I've had some of the greatest times in my life with my YAK (9110M). Not sure where she is now but I hope she's still going strong. Formation flying with FU (Formation University in Kansas), flights over the Rockies, flights along the Sierra Nevada mountains, and the Red Stars events are some of the highlights that bring back fond memories. The YAK is truly an incredible ride! I sold 9110M some time back and as a result have slowly migrated away from all things YAK. Not that I wanted to do that but that is the reality in our difficult times. With this in mind, the hosting and administration of the YAK-LINKS Website ( http://www.yaksource.com/ ) has changed. Please update your links! I've always considered this website as a resource for new and prospective YAK and Nanchange owners in regards to gathering information about these aircraft. The links provided (I have been told) were (are) a key resource in obtaining information about our former eastern block aircraft.........Everyting from flight manuals to parts suppliers have been available with this website. In short, this has been a valuable, informational, "one stop" resource for the YAK and Nanchang community. I don't yet see Pappy's article on "To Be or Not to Be" on this website but I'm sure that will change. Pappy wrote this article some time back. It's an historical account on the Nanchang and its creators straight from the people who lived it! At one time I was even contacted by a Chinese national looking for historical information about items detailed in Pappy's article. I'm sure that as new adminstrator to the YAK LINKS web site, Noel Jones ( noel@badyak.com ), would be more than happy to include any links to sites that may be of interest to the YAK and Nanchang community. As a side note, you might be surprised to learn just how many "hits" this website has had over the years! Kindest Regards Frank (set out to pasture) Haertlein ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:16 PM PST US From: Rick Basiliere Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK and the Greatest of Times Roy Murray owns her here in CO. He is one of the CO YAK PAC, Joe Wilkins, HO Beckett, Al Tinnes, etc. I have a pic of him in formation with me (lead in my SU-29) Joe and H.O. doing their first paid airshow at the Budwieser Events Center Loveland CO. It was long enough ago that I was the only one with smoke. A little bit of history on your baby. Respectfully, Rick b Now with Yak 55m 255DR -----Original Message----- >From: Frank >Sent: May 27, 2010 7:02 PM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Yak-List: YAK and the Greatest of Times > > >Just a quick word to the list to say I've had some of the greatest times in >my life with my YAK (9110M). > >Not sure where she is now but I hope she's still going strong. > >Formation flying with FU (Formation University in Kansas), flights over the >Rockies, flights along the Sierra Nevada mountains, and the Red Stars events >are some of the highlights that bring back fond memories. The YAK is truly >an incredible ride! > >I sold 9110M some time back and as a result have slowly migrated away from >all things YAK. Not that I wanted to do that but that is the reality in our >difficult times. > >With this in mind, the hosting and administration of the YAK-LINKS Website >( http://www.yaksource.com/ ) has changed. Please update your links! > >I've always considered this website as a resource for new and prospective >YAK and Nanchange owners in regards to gathering information about these >aircraft. The links provided (I have been told) were (are) a key resource in >obtaining information about our former eastern block >aircraft.........Everyting from flight manuals to parts suppliers have been >available with this website. In short, this has been a valuable, >informational, "one stop" resource for the YAK and Nanchang community. > >I don't yet see Pappy's article on "To Be or Not to Be" on this website but >I'm sure that will change. Pappy wrote this article some time back. It's an >historical account on the Nanchang and its creators straight from the people >who lived it! At one time I was even contacted by a Chinese national >looking for historical information about items detailed in Pappy's article. > >I'm sure that as new adminstrator to the YAK LINKS web site, Noel Jones ( >noel@badyak.com ), would be more than happy to include any links to sites >that may be of interest to the YAK and Nanchang community. > >As a side note, you might be surprised to learn just how many "hits" this >website has had over the years! > >Kindest Regards >Frank (set out to pasture) Haertlein > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:37 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: AD's on Certified Engines and props in Experimental Aircraft From: "Dale" Q & A: Question of the Week For EAA Information Services I purchased a Breezy a few years ago. During the last annual inspection, my mechanic said that the seat belts/harness had to be replaced. The tags have either rotted off (it gets a lot of sun) or were cut or torn off by the previous owner. My question: Are the seat belts on experimental aircraft required to display an FAA "approved" tag? Answer: The short (and sweet) answer is NO. Since your aircraft has an experimental amateur-built airworthiness certificate, you are free to use any parts and materials you wish. In fact, all parts installed in/on the aircraft become experimental the moment they are installed, even if they started out as parts for/from type-certificated aircraft (for example the engine and wings) or OEM/PMA parts manufacturers. That's the beauty of homebuilts - you don't have to pay certified aviation prices for most things if you don't want to. In this case, seat belts from the auto racing world are usually cheaper, and you can use them in your Breezy with no problems. Have a question? To ask a question regarding government issues, e-mail govt@eaa.org. For questions about registration, airmen, aircraft and medical certification, safety records, performance, or any other matter, e-mail infoserv@eaa.org Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299106#299106 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:09:19 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: YAK and the Greatest of Times From: "Dale" Hi Frank Is this it? He had two that looked alike, look close. 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