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Tue 06/01/10


Total Messages Posted: 16



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:43 AM - Re: CJ Airspeed (Terry Calloway)
     2. 10:07 AM - Re: YAK-52 gear light (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     3. 11:11 AM - Politics and CJ's (Bill Mills)
     4. 01:39 PM - Re: YAK 18T (SC)
     5. 02:40 PM - Politics and CJ's - Correction (Terry Calloway)
     6. 02:53 PM - Re: YAK-52 gear light (Eric Wobschall)
     7. 03:52 PM - Re: Politics and CJ's - Correction (SC)
     8. 06:34 PM - Cessena Bans use of ethanol based fuels in its' aircraft (Roger Kemp M.D.)
     9. 07:29 PM - Re: Politics and CJ's (T A LEWIS)
    10. 08:07 PM - Re: Politics and CJ's (T A LEWIS)
    11. 08:12 PM - Re: Politics and CJ's (vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
    12. 08:27 PM - Re: Politics and CJ's - Correction (Terry Calloway)
    13. 09:06 PM - Re: Politics and CJ's - Correction (Roger Kemp M.D.)
    14. 09:21 PM - Re: YAK 18T (Roger Kemp M.D.)
    15. 11:04 PM - Official Yak-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
    16. 11:11 PM - Official Yak-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:43:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ Airspeed
    From: Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com>
    They do a nice job. tc On May 31, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Sonic1 wrote: > > Just got my overhauled CJ airspeed indicators back from World Wide Warbirds. Cleaned, calibrated, painted, and re-screened for $175. I think they look fantastic! > > Thanks Barry! > > Jeff. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299500#299500 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1327a_176.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1324a_161.jpg > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:07:37 AM PST US
    Subject: YAK-52 gear light
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Now I am confused.... My memory says that there are two switches. One for down and locked, the other for up and locked. Which one is your hobs meter hooked to, and which light exactly is not working? I was under the impression that you were wired into the UP and locked switch. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wobschall Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK-52 gear light I thought the switch was depressed with the gear extended. With the common (to all gear lights) circuit you described, it's either adjustment or switch, and since it seems to have clicked on extension, I'm guessing switch. I'll put a meter on it. Thanks. On May 31, 2010, at 7:56 AM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: Have you adjusted the arm that engages the button on the micro switch as Mark suggested? What about putting an ohm meter on the micro switch to verify operation? There is no common fuse because if there was and the fuse was blown, all of the gear lights would be out. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Wobschall <mailto:eric@buffaloskyline.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK-52 gear light The lamp for the gear up is fine (using test button), and the microswitch on the uplock does click when you trip it or press it. The down and locked light is not an issue (goes out when retracted. Are all gear lights on the same fuse? On May 30, 2010, at 8:37 PM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: 2W vs. 3W is no problem. I do not know of a US equivalent for the annunciator panel lamps. Push the microswitch button itself. It should click very distinctly when you depress the button. Does the green light go out when you retract the gear? Does the lamp come on when you press the press to lamp test button. Put an ohm meter on the microswitch if you suspect it to be bad. You will have to pierce the wires with the ohm meter leads. Getting to the terminal block is a whole lot more difficult. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Wobschall <mailto:eric@buffaloskyline.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK-52 gear light Hey, Dennis / Doc... I notice that lamp I took out was 2W (the Osram is 3W)... assuming that's a trivial difference. Also, is that the same lamp as used in the annunciator panel? If not, do you know the lamp part number equivilent for those? Lastly, my Hobbs is on the left main gear switch, which is not working... thought it was the switch adjustment, but it seems to be clicking when the up lock is tripped. So, I was guessing it's the switch (didn't put a meter on it yet), but I also wonder if the Hobbs was drawing too much current and tripped a fuse. I don't suppose the three gear indicator circuits are fused separately? Thanks again. -Eric On May 30, 2010, at 8:41 AM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: Osram OS3899. Here's an link for them. http://www.frontierlighting.com/product.jsp?part 14&process=search&sho w=& ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Wobschall <mailto:eric@buffaloskyline.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 9:05 PM Subject: Yak-List: YAK-52 gear light --> Yak-List message posted by: Eric Wobschall <eric@buffaloskyline.com> Does anyone have the part number for the YAK-52 gear light? 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    Time: 11:11:34 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Mills" <bill@yakrobatics.com>
    Subject: Politics and CJ's
    Good Day all, That subject line typically doesn't go together, but I wanted to alert everyone on this page to the fact that one of our brothers, Terry "Pumper" Calloway has decided to run for office and try and bring some decency and accountability back to Washington while also promoting our freedoms in the general aviation arena. He's running for 3rd District Representative in Kansas. www.terrycalloway.com. Terry has always been a huge supporter of the RPA and this list, so I wanted to throw my support behind one that has done so much for our organization and invite all of us to lend a hand in getting him to Washington. We need more folks like Terry in Washington to ensure that our passion for flying remains one of our cherished freedoms. Good Luck Pumper! Bill Mills Blue Sky Yakrobatics, Inc Owner, Chief Pilot www.yakrobatics.com bs_yakrobaticslogorgb


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    Time: 01:39:31 PM PST US
    From: "SC" <thecookoos@gmail.com>
    Subject: YAK 18T
    Any luck Doug ? Mine is 1 = 1.5 " with a small conical glass lens with lines in it which fitted inside a bayonet fitting ring which in turns fastens to main light body Regards Steve _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:05 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK 18T Anyone know if the small landing gear strut light lens is the same as used on the CJ6? If yes, I have them in stock. Doug On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:52 AM, SC <thecookoos@gmail.com> wrote: Still looking for following parts if anybody can help please: Original intercom amplifier box Original red glass beacon for vertical stabiliser (glass and bulbs will do) Original Yak lower shoulder belts that attach to waist buckle (4) Small clear lens for landing gear strut lights Now waiting for DAR visit so keep your fingers crossed for us ! BigglesUSA et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 02:40:54 PM PST US
    From: Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com>
    Subject: Politics and CJ's - Correction
    Thank you Pirate very much for those kind words. One small correction, I am running for the Kansas House of Representatives not the US House. Gotta start somewhere but even that is going to cost the price of a good YAK. Thanks to all for your support. Pumper On Jun 1, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Bill Mills wrote: > Good Day all, > > That subject line typically doesn=92t go together, but I wanted to alert everyone on this page to the fact that one of our brothers, Terry =93Pumper=94 Calloway has decided to run for office and try and bring some decency and accountability back to Washington while also promoting our freedoms in the general aviation arena. He=92s running for 3rd District Representative in Kansas. www.terrycalloway.com. > > Terry has always been a huge supporter of the RPA and this list, so I wanted to throw my support behind one that has done so much for our organization and invite all of us to lend a hand in getting him to Washington. We need more folks like Terry in Washington to ensure that our passion for flying remains one of our cherished freedoms. > > Good Luck Pumper! > > Bill Mills > Blue Sky Yakrobatics, Inc > Owner, Chief Pilot > www.yakrobatics.com > <image002.jpg> >


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    Time: 02:53:48 PM PST US
    From: Eric Wobschall <eric@buffaloskyline.com>
    Subject: Re: YAK-52 gear light
    Yeah, I'm confused, too. I can hear the Hobbs ticking when the up-lock is tripped, but the light doesn't light. The light DOES light when I depress the test button (this is when the gear light switch and battery master are on). I examined the wiring harness where the Hobbs is tapped in, and it looks fine (transparent butt splice). Any theories? On Jun 1, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: > Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > Now I am confused.... > > My memory says that there are two switches. One for down and locked, > the other for up and locked. > > Which one is your hobs meter hooked to, and which light exactly is not > working? > > I was under the impression that you were wired into the UP and locked > switch. > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric > Wobschall > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 8:28 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK-52 gear light > > I thought the switch was depressed with the gear extended. With the > common (to all gear lights) circuit you described, it's either > adjustment or switch, and since it seems to have clicked on extension, > I'm guessing switch. I'll put a meter on it. > > Thanks. > > > On May 31, 2010, at 7:56 AM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > > > Have you adjusted the arm that engages the button on the micro > switch as Mark suggested? What about putting an ohm meter on the > micro > switch to verify operation? There is no common fuse because if there > was and the fuse was blown, all of the gear lights would be out. > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eric Wobschall <mailto:eric@buffaloskyline.com> > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:28 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK-52 gear light > > The lamp for the gear up is fine (using test button), > and the microswitch on the uplock does click when you trip it or > press > it. The down and locked light is not an issue (goes out when > retracted. > Are all gear lights on the same fuse? > > > On May 30, 2010, at 8:37 PM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > > > 2W vs. 3W is no problem. I do not know of a US > equivalent for the annunciator panel lamps. > > Push the microswitch button itself. It should > click very distinctly when you depress the button. Does the green > light > go out when you retract the gear? Does the lamp come on when you > press > the press to lamp test button. Put an ohm meter on the microswitch if > you suspect it to be bad. You will have to pierce the wires with the > ohm meter leads. Getting to the terminal block is a whole lot more > difficult. > > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eric Wobschall > <mailto:eric@buffaloskyline.com> > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK-52 gear light > > Hey, Dennis / Doc... I notice that lamp > I took out was 2W (the Osram is 3W)... assuming that's a trivial > difference. Also, is that the same lamp as used in the annunciator > panel? If not, do you know the lamp part number equivilent for those? > > Lastly, my Hobbs is on the left main > gear switch, which is not working... thought it was the switch > adjustment, but it seems to be clicking when the up lock is tripped. > So, > I was guessing it's the switch (didn't put a meter on it yet), but I > also wonder if the Hobbs was drawing too much current and tripped a > fuse. I don't suppose the three gear indicator circuits are fused > separately? > > Thanks again. -Eric > > > On May 30, 2010, at 8:41 AM, A. Dennis > Savarese wrote: > > > > Osram OS3899. Here's an link > for them. > http://www.frontierlighting.com/product.jsp?part 14&process=search&sho > w=& > > ----- Original Message > ----- > From: Eric Wobschall > <mailto:eric@buffaloskyline.com> > To: > yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, May 29, > 2010 9:05 PM > Subject: Yak-List: > YAK-52 gear light > > --> Yak-List message > posted by: Eric Wobschall <eric@buffaloskyline.com> > > Does anyone have the > part number for the YAK-52 gear light? I seem to > remember it being an > Osram item. > > > -Eric nbsp; > Navigator Photoshare, and > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics > > =======================<; via the Web > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous > bsp; > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > =============== > > > > > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronhref > ="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > > > href=" > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Na > vigator?Yak-List > > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronhref > ="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co > ntribution > > > > > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics > . > com/Navigator?Yak-List > > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics > . > com/Navigator?Yak-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co > ntribution > > > >


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    Time: 03:52:57 PM PST US
    From: "SC" <thecookoos@gmail.com>
    Subject: Politics and CJ's - Correction
    Being a Brit that's what I find so undemocratic about the US of A - people are elected to public office based on how much they have in their pocket NOT ability. In UK ability can still get you elected to Parliament and anybody can become Prime Minister without Millions behind their campaigns. .....and our Health Service is better despite all the rumours. Bigglesusa _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Calloway Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:31 PM Subject: Yak-List: Politics and CJ's - Correction Thank you Pirate very much for those kind words. One small correction, I am running for the Kansas House of Representatives not the US House. Gotta start somewhere but even that is going to cost the price of a good YAK. Thanks to all for your support. Pumper On Jun 1, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Bill Mills wrote: Good Day all, That subject line typically doesn't go together, but I wanted to alert everyone on this page to the fact that one of our brothers, Terry "Pumper" Calloway has decided to run for office and try and bring some decency and accountability back to Washington while also promoting our freedoms in the general aviation arena. He's running for 3rd District Representative in Kansas. www.terrycalloway.com. Terry has always been a huge supporter of the RPA and this list, so I wanted to throw my support behind one that has done so much for our organization and invite all of us to lend a hand in getting him to Washington. We need more folks like Terry in Washington to ensure that our passion for flying remains one of our cherished freedoms. Good Luck Pumper! Bill Mills Blue Sky Yakrobatics, Inc Owner, Chief Pilot www.yakrobatics.com <x-msg://26/www.yakrobatics.com> <image002.jpg>


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    Time: 06:34:41 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Cessena Bans use of ethanol based fuels in its' aircraft
    Cessna bans ethanol in their planes. See attached caution letter Doc


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    Time: 07:29:55 PM PST US
    From: T A LEWIS <talew@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Politics and CJ's
    CS=0AThe very best I can say about your post is bull shit .=0AAny other que stions=C2-I can help you with ?=C2-=0ATerry Lewis=0A=0A=0A=0A__________ ______________________=0AFrom: SC <thecookoos@gmail.com>=0ATo: yak-list@mat ronics.com=0ASent: Tue, June 1, 2010 6:24:57 PM=0ASubject: RE: Yak-List: Po litics and CJ's - Correction=0A=0A=0ABeing a Brit that=99s what I fin d so undemocratic about the US of A =93 people are elected to public office based on how much they have in their pocket NOT =C2-ability.=C2- =C2-In UK ability can still get you elected to Parliament and anybody ca n become Prime Minister without Millions behind their campaigns.=0A ..and our Health Service is better despite all the rum ours.=0ABigglesusa=0A=C2-=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom :owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronic s.com] On Behalf Of Terry Calloway=0ASent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:31 PM =0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Yak-List: Politics and CJ's - Corr ection=0A=C2-=0AThank you Pirate very much for those kind words.=0A=C2- =0AOne small correction,=0A=C2-=0AI am running for the Kansas House of Re presentatives not the US House.=0A=C2-=0AGotta start somewhere but even t hat is going to cost the price of a good YAK.=0A=C2-=0AThanks to all for your support.=0APumper=0A=C2-=0AOn Jun 1, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Bill Mills wr ote:=0A=0AGood Day all,=0A=C2-=0AThat subject line typically doesn =99t go together, but I wanted to alert everyone on this page to the fact t hat one of our brothers, Terry =9CPumper=9D Calloway has decide d to run for office and try and bring some decency and accountability back to Washington while also promoting our freedoms in the general aviation are na.=C2- He=99s running for 3rd=C2-District Representative in Kans as .=C2-www.terrycalloway.com.=C2-=0A=C2-=0ATerry has always been a h uge supporter of the RPA and this list, so I wanted to throw my support beh ind one that has done so much for our organization and invite all of us to lend a hand in getting him to Washington .=C2- We need more folks like Te rry in Washington to ensure that our passion for flying remains one of our cherished freedoms.=0A=C2-=0AGood Luck Pumper!=0A=C2-=0ABill Mills=0ABl ue Sky Yakrobatics, Inc=0AOwner, Chief Pilot=0Awww.yakrobatics.com=0A<image


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    Time: 08:07:32 PM PST US
    From: T A LEWIS <talew@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Politics and CJ's
    CS.=0AI guess I should have answered your post in a little more detail . =0AYou implied that a person ,=C2-a person that I admire , =C2-could no t be elected unless he was well financed .=0A=C2-In this country ,when yo u=C2-decide to run for office, you need finances to inform the electorate of why you seek this office and why you are qualified to do this job . =0A It's that simple !=0AAs to=C2-health care , =C2-your third world approa ch to health care is well documented=C2-in your own news papers .=0AI als o think that your shot at our style of goverment and your defense of=C2- a failed health care system are unfounded and can better=C2-be addressed in another forum and =0Anot on the yak list=C2-.=0AThis does not mean tha t we will not put a lot of effort in solving any problems you have with you r yak . : )=0ATerry Lewis=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFro m: T A LEWIS <talew@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue , June 1, 2010 10:28:15 PM=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: Politics and CJ's=0A=0A =0ACS=0AThe very best I can say about your post is bull shit .=0AAny other questions=C2-I can help you with ?=C2-=0ATerry Lewis=0A=0A=0A=0A_______ _________________________=0AFrom: SC <thecookoos@gmail.com>=0ATo: yak-list@ matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, June 1, 2010 6:24:57 PM=0ASubject: RE: Yak-List: Politics and CJ's - Correction=0A=0A=0ABeing a Brit that=99s what I find so undemocratic about the US of A =93 people are elected to publ ic office based on how much they have in their pocket NOT =C2-ability.=C2 - =C2-In UK ability can still get you elected to Parliament and anybody can become Prime Minister without Millions behind their campaigns.=0A ..and our Health Service is better despite all the rumours.=0ABigglesusa=0A=C2-=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AF rom:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matro nics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Calloway=0ASent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:31 P M=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Yak-List: Politics and CJ's - Cor rection=0A=C2-=0AThank you Pirate very much for those kind words.=0A=C2 -=0AOne small correction,=0A=C2-=0AI am running for the Kansas House of Representatives not the US House.=0A=C2-=0AGotta start somewhere but eve n that is going to cost the price of a good YAK.=0A=C2-=0AThanks to all f or your support.=0APumper=0A=C2-=0AOn Jun 1, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Bill Mills wrote:=0A=0AGood Day all,=0A=C2-=0AThat subject line typically doesn =99t go together, but I wanted to alert everyone on this page to the fac t that one of our brothers, Terry =9CPumper=9D Calloway has dec ided to run for office and try and bring some decency and accountability ba ck to Washington while also promoting our freedoms in the general aviation arena.=C2- He=99s running for 3rd=C2-District Representative in K ansas .=C2-www.terrycalloway.com.=C2-=0A=C2-=0ATerry has always been a huge supporter of the RPA and this list, so I wanted to throw my support behind one that has done so much for our organization and invite all of us to lend a hand in getting him to Washington .=C2- We need more folks like Terry in Washington to ensure that our passion for flying remains one of o ur cherished freedoms.=0A=C2-=0AGood Luck Pumper!=0A=C2-=0ABill Mills =0ABlue Sky Yakrobatics, Inc=0AOwner, Chief Pilot=0Awww.yakrobatics.com=0A< ==


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    Time: 08:12:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Politics and CJ's
    From: vectorwarbirds@aol.com
    Please stop already! TGB -----Original Message----- From: T A LEWIS <talew@bellsouth.net> Sent: Tue, Jun 1, 2010 8:06 pm Subject: Re: Yak-List: Politics and CJ's CS. I guess I should have answered your post in a little more detail . You implied that a person , a person that I admire , could not be elected unless he was well financed . In this country ,when you decide to run for office, you need finances to inform the electorate of why you seek this office and why you are qualifi ed to do this job . It's that simple ! As to health care , your third world approach to health care is well docu mented in your own news papers . I also think that your shot at our style of goverment and your defense of a failed health care system are unfounded and can better be addressed in another forum and not on the yak list . This does not mean that we will not put a lot of effort in solving any pro blems you have with your yak . : ) Terry Lewis From: T A LEWIS <talew@bellsouth.net> Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 10:28:15 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Politics and CJ's CS The very best I can say about your post is bull shit . Any other questions I can help you with ? Terry Lewis From: SC <thecookoos@gmail.com> Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 6:24:57 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Politics and CJ's - Correction Being a Brit that=99s what I find so undemocratic about the US of A =93 people are elected to public office based on how much they have in their pocket NOT ability. In UK ability can still get you elected to Parliament and anybody can become Prime Minister without Millions behi nd their campaigns. ..and our Health Service is better despite all the rumours. Bigglesusa From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@ma tronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Calloway Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:31 PM Subject: Yak-List: Politics and CJ's - Correction Thank you Pirate very much for those kind words. One small correction, I am running for the Kansas House of Representatives not the US House. Gotta start somewhere but even that is going to cost the price of a good YAK. Thanks to all for your support. Pumper On Jun 1, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Bill Mills wrote: Good Day all, That subject line typically doesn=99t go together, but I wanted to alert everyone on this page to the fact that one of our brothers, Terry =9CPumper=9D Calloway has decided to run for office and try and bring some decency and accountability back to Washington while also promoting our freedoms in the general aviation arena. He=99s runni ng for 3rd District Representative in Kansas . www.terrycalloway.com. Terry has always been a huge supporter of the RPA and this list, so I want ed to throw my support behind one that has done so much for our organizati on and invite all of us to lend a hand in getting him to Washington . We need more folks like Terry in Washington to ensure that our passion for flying remains one of our cherished freedoms. Good Luck Pumper! Bill Mills Blue Sky Yakrobatics, Inc Owner, Chief Pilot www.yakrobatics.com <image002.jpg> ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== =================


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    Time: 08:27:38 PM PST US
    From: Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Politics and CJ's - Correction
    Yak List Subscribers, thank you and thank you for the comments Bigglesusa, Your comments describe precisely what Brits' will never know about American Politics. The original post from fellow RPAer Bill Mills was for (if I have it right) financial support of our effort to put fiscal responsibility back into our government. To do that it takes a BROAD base of financial support not just from some Bloke who can put up the whole LOT to make it happen. No offense intended. This may happen in the UK, (and rarely does happen in the US) but in the US, the best elected officials are ones who have the support from a broad base of contributors. I apologize for my reference to the price of a good YAK being the cost of our campaign because I surely am not referring to the US dollars derived from me personally. Even if, I could afford to PURCHASE the elected position, I would not want to be elected in that manner. Finally, to those who subscribe to this List, I ask only two things. If you know someone who can vote for me, tell them it is and an okay decision. If you only know me thru this list and cannot vote for me, just pray we can make a difference. Sincerely, Pumper On Jun 1, 2010, at 5:24 PM, SC wrote: > Being a Brit that=92s what I find so undemocratic about the US of A ' people are elected to public office based on how much they have in their pocket NOT ability. In UK ability can still get you elected to Parliament and anybody can become Prime Minister without Millions behind their campaigns. > =85=85=85..and our Health Service is better despite all the rumours. > Bigglesusa > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Calloway > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:31 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Politics and CJ's - Correction > > Thank you Pirate very much for those kind words. > > One small correction, > > I am running for the Kansas House of Representatives not the US House. > > Gotta start somewhere but even that is going to cost the price of a good YAK. > > Thanks to all for your support. > Pumper > > On Jun 1, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Bill Mills wrote: > > > Good Day all, > > That subject line typically doesn=92t go together, but I wanted to alert everyone on this page to the fact that one of our brothers, Terry =93Pumper=94 Calloway has decided to run for office and try and bring some decency and accountability back to Washington while also promoting our freedoms in the general aviation arena. He=92s running for 3rd District Representative in Kansas. www.terrycalloway.com. > > Terry has always been a huge supporter of the RPA and this list, so I wanted to throw my support behind one that has done so much for our organization and invite all of us to lend a hand in getting him to Washington. We need more folks like Terry in Washington to ensure that our passion for flying remains one of our cherished freedoms. > > Good Luck Pumper! > > Bill Mills > Blue Sky Yakrobatics, Inc > Owner, Chief Pilot > www.yakrobatics.com > <image002.jpg> > > > > >


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    Time: 09:06:35 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Politics and CJ's - Correction
    Off Topic do not achieve: Pumper, Good luck. The list, GA, and the current state of politics in this nation needs physically responsible people willing to serve. You have done so in the RPA community. Saying that good luck with the race. Kansas needs you after Sebelius (if that is how you spell that _ _ _ _ _ '_ name). Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Calloway Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Politics and CJ's - Correction Yak List Subscribers, thank you and thank you for the comments Bigglesusa, Your comments describe precisely what Brits' will never know about American Politics. The original post from fellow RPAer Bill Mills was for (if I have it right) financial support of our effort to put fiscal responsibility back into our government. To do that it takes a BROAD base of financial support not just from some Bloke who can put up the whole LOT to make it happen. No offense intended. This may happen in the UK, (and rarely does happen in the US) but in the US, the best elected officials are ones who have the support from a broad base of contributors. I apologize for my reference to the price of a good YAK being the cost of our campaign because I surely am not referring to the US dollars derived from me personally. Even if, I could afford to PURCHASE the elected position, I would not want to be elected in that manner. Finally, to those who subscribe to this List, I ask only two things. If you know someone who can vote for me, tell them it is and an okay decision. If you only know me thru this list and cannot vote for me, just pray we can make a difference. Sincerely, Pumper On Jun 1, 2010, at 5:24 PM, SC wrote: Being a Brit that's what I find so undemocratic about the US of A - people are elected to public office based on how much they have in their pocket NOT ability. In UK ability can still get you elected to Parliament and anybody can become Prime Minister without Millions behind their campaigns. .....and our Health Service is better despite all the rumours. Bigglesusa _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Calloway Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:31 PM Subject: Yak-List: Politics and CJ's - Correction Thank you Pirate very much for those kind words. One small correction, I am running for the Kansas House of Representatives not the US House. Gotta start somewhere but even that is going to cost the price of a good YAK. Thanks to all for your support. Pumper On Jun 1, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Bill Mills wrote: Good Day all, That subject line typically doesn't go together, but I wanted to alert everyone on this page to the fact that one of our brothers, Terry "Pumper" Calloway has decided to run for office and try and bring some decency and accountability back to Washington while also promoting our freedoms in the general aviation arena. He's running for 3rd District Representative in Kansas. www.terrycalloway.com <http://www.terrycalloway.com/> . Terry has always been a huge supporter of the RPA and this list, so I wanted to throw my support behind one that has done so much for our organization and invite all of us to lend a hand in getting him to Washington. We need more folks like Terry in Washington to ensure that our passion for flying remains one of our cherished freedoms. Good Luck Pumper! Bill Mills Blue Sky Yakrobatics, Inc Owner, Chief Pilot www.yakrobatics.com <x-msg://26/www.yakrobatics.com> <image002.jpg> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/ Navigator?Yak-List href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution


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    Time: 09:21:50 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: YAK 18T
    Have you tried West London Aeroclub @ http://www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk/main.asp I saw lens listed on their site. Nothing against Doug. God knows he has been a friend to the YAK community as well as the CJ community with his willingness to help out with parts interchangeability searches and supplies. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SC Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: YAK 18T Any luck Doug ? Mine is 1 = 1.5 " with a small conical glass lens with lines in it which fitted inside a bayonet fitting ring which in turns fastens to main light body Regards Steve _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:05 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK 18T Anyone know if the small landing gear strut light lens is the same as used on the CJ6? If yes, I have them in stock. Doug On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:52 AM, SC <thecookoos@gmail.com> wrote: Still looking for following parts if anybody can help please: Original intercom amplifier box Original red glass beacon for vertical stabiliser (glass and bulbs will do) Original Yak lower shoulder belts that attach to waist buckle (4) Small clear lens for landing gear strut lights Now waiting for DAR visit so keep your fingers crossed for us ! BigglesUSA et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Dear Listers, Please read over the Yak-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Yak-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Yak-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Yak-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Yak-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Yak-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Yak-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Yak-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. - Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by List members promoting their respective products or items for sale should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. ------- [This is an automated posting.] do not archive




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