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1. 03:11 AM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (lou)
2. 03:46 AM - Re: Electric Pump : was : M14P Magneto (Vic)
3. 05:41 AM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (cjpilot710@aol.com)
4. 05:55 AM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (Warren Hill)
5. 06:33 AM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (cjpilot710@aol.com)
6. 06:48 AM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (Warren Hill)
7. 07:21 AM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (DAVID STROUD)
8. 08:23 AM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (Warren Hill)
9. 08:44 AM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (DAVID STROUD)
10. 09:00 AM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (Warren Hill)
11. 09:53 AM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (Walter Lannon)
12. 11:08 AM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (Adrian Coop Cooper)
13. 11:50 AM - Re: Re: CJ6A serial numbers (cjpilot710@aol.com)
14. 12:06 PM - AirVenture Mass Arrivals (Rico Jaeger)
15. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: CJ6A serial numbers (cjpilot710@aol.com)
16. 12:44 PM - Re: The Hydraulic lock (Francois Davel)
17. 01:04 PM - Re: AirVenture Mass Arrivals (cjpilot710@aol.com)
18. 02:34 PM - Re: Re: CJ6A serial numbers (Roger Kemp M.D.)
19. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: The Hydraulic lock (A. Dennis Savarese)
20. 05:31 PM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (Marcus Bates)
21. 05:51 PM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (DAVID STROUD)
22. 06:35 PM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (doug sapp)
23. 06:35 PM - Re: CJ6A serial numbers (doug sapp)
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6A serial numbers |
Adrain
What information is on the plate riverted on the fire wall it should
have date of manufacture on it.
Lou
On 21/07/2010 4:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Adrian Coop Cooper"<cooperairracing@gmail.com>
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> Hope some one out there can help me.
> I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that specifically states
the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and also gives the date of
manufacture.
> Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may access it.
> Thanks very much.
> Adrian Coop Cooper
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Pump : was : M14P Magneto |
Hi Didier,
look at the photo at the bottom of my previous posting showing the installation
in the 18 T. The pumps are Pierburg 24 V and 0,5 bar, ~ 90.- . The whole set
is homemade and sits under the rear floor in front of the service tank including
an extra one-way valve.
Vic
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6A serial numbers |
The serial number on you fire wall maybe either 4 digits or 7.
The first 2 digits are the batch number or a group of production airplanes
The last 2 digits are the airplane number in that batch.
If you have 3 digits in the middle, this will be the factory where the air
craft was assembled.
Example 2532059 (my airplane) was the 59th aircraft in batch 25. The 320
is the factory in Nanchang.
It was part of a batch of 80 aircraft built between May and November of 19
69.
In RPAs 2007 spring issue of Red Alert there a list of all serial number
with their dates of manufacture and number of aircraft in that batch.
If your airplane has a 285 hp HS6A engine in it, it is a CJ-6A. A CJ-6 ha
s the 260 hp engine. That's the only difference.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: lou <ldakos@bigpond.net.au>
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 6:10 am
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
Adrain
What information is on the plate riverted on the fire wall it should have
date of manufacture on it.
Lou
On 21/07/2010 4:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
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> Hope some one out there can help me.
> I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that specifical
ly states the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and also gives th
e date of manufacture.
> Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may access it
.
> Thanks very much.
> Adrian Coop Cooper
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6A serial numbers |
Coop,
Here is a picture showing the location of the serial number plate on the
firewall. Mine says "83 3932010 " indicating that it was manufactured
in 1983 with the serial number 3932010. I have heard that the serial
number may contain other manufacturing information. Perhaps someone on
the list may know how to decode it for you.
A CJ-6 has the 260 HP Housai and the CJ-6A has the 285 HP version. A
CJ-6 would be an older aircraft, probably from the early to mid 1960s. I
know that the 285 HP Housai started being used around the mid-1960s.
Warren Hill
On Jul 20, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
<cooperairracing@gmail.com>
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> Hope some one out there can help me.
> I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that
specifically states the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and
also gives the date of manufacture.
> Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may access
it.
> Thanks very much.
> Adrian Coop Cooper
>
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6A serial numbers |
Warren,
Your airplane was assembled at the Nanchang factory. It was #10 in batch
39 which had 24 aircraft, built between Oct 1983 and May 1984. All 24 ai
rcraft were sent to the PLAF.
At one point both the CJ-6 and CJ-6A were on the production line at the sa
me time. It just depended on which engine they would put in them. You're
correct about the early ones being CJ-6s. At some point in their life,
some CJ-6s were made into 6As with an engine change.
There were other variants too, modified for special purposes. The CJ-6B
was a armed version of an A. Only 10 were built. There several others
too.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 8:54 am
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
Coop,
Here is a picture showing the location of the serial number plate on the
irewall. Mine says "83 3932010 " indicating that it was manufactured in
1983
ith the serial number 3932010. I have heard that the serial number may co
ntain
ther manufacturing information. Perhaps someone on the list may know how
to
ecode it for you.
A CJ-6 has the 260 HP Housai and the CJ-6A has the 285 HP version. A CJ-6
would
e an older aircraft, probably from the early to mid 1960s. I know that the
285
P Housai started being used around the mid-1960s.
Warren Hill
On Jul 20, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
ail.com>
Hope some one out there can help me.
I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that specificall
y
tates the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and also gives the da
te of
anufacture.
Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may access it.
Thanks very much.
Adrian Coop Cooper
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Coop
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6A serial numbers |
Pappy,
Thanks for decoding my serial number. Nice to know this extra
information.
Warren
On Jul 21, 2010, at 6:26 AM, cjpilot710@aol.com wrote:
> Warren,
>
> Your airplane was assembled at the Nanchang factory. It was #10 in
batch 39 which had 24 aircraft, built between Oct 1983 and May 1984.
All 24 aircraft were sent to the PLAF.
>
> At one point both the CJ-6 and CJ-6A were on the production line at
the same time. It just depended on which engine they would put in them.
You're correct about the early ones being CJ-6s. At some point in
their life, some CJ-6s were made into 6As with an engine change.
>
> There were other variants too, modified for special purposes. The
CJ-6B was a armed version of an A. Only 10 were built. There several
others too.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 8:54 am
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
>
> Coop,
>
> Here is a picture showing the location of the serial number plate on
the
> firewall. Mine says "83 3932010 " indicating that it was manufactured
in 1983
> with the serial number 3932010. I have heard that the serial number
may contain
> other manufacturing information. Perhaps someone on the list may know
how to
> decode it for you.
>
> A CJ-6 has the 260 HP Housai and the CJ-6A has the 285 HP version. A
CJ-6 would
> be an older aircraft, probably from the early to mid 1960s. I know
that the 285
> HP Housai started being used around the mid-1960s.
>
> Warren Hill
>
>
>
> On Jul 20, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
>
<cooperairracing@gmail.com>
> >
> > Hope some one out there can help me.
> > I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that
specifically
> states the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and also gives
the date of
> manufacture.
> > Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may
access it.
> > Thanks very much.
> > Adrian Coop Cooper
> >
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6A serial numbers |
Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai engine would
say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
----- Original Message -----
From: cjpilot710@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
The serial number on you fire wall maybe either 4 digits or 7.
The first 2 digits are the batch number or a group of production
airplanes
The last 2 digits are the airplane number in that batch.
If you have 3 digits in the middle, this will be the factory where the
aircraft was assembled.
Example 2532059 (my airplane) was the 59th aircraft in batch 25. The
320 is the factory in Nanchang.
It was part of a batch of 80 aircraft built between May and November
of 1969.
In RPAs 2007 spring issue of Red Alert there a list of all serial
number with their dates of manufacture and number of aircraft in that
batch.
If your airplane has a 285 hp HS6A engine in it, it is a CJ-6A. A
CJ-6 has the 260 hp engine. That's the only difference.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: lou <ldakos@bigpond.net.au>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 6:10 am
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
Adrain
What information is on the plate riverted on the fire wall it should
have date of manufacture on it.
Lou
On 21/07/2010 4:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
Cooper"<cooperairracing@gmail.com>
>
> Hope some one out there can help me.
> I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that
specifically states the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and
also gives the date of manufacture.
> Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may
access it.
> Thanks very much.
> Adrian Coop Cooper
>
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> Coop
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6A serial numbers |
David,
The 260 HP is a Housai HS-6. The 285 HP Housai is a HS-6A.
Warren
On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:17 AM, DAVID STROUD wrote:
> Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai engine would
> say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> Fairchild 51 replica
> under construction C-FYXV
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: cjpilot710@aol.com
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
>
> The serial number on you fire wall maybe either 4 digits or 7.
>
> The first 2 digits are the batch number or a group of production
airplanes
>
> The last 2 digits are the airplane number in that batch.
>
> If you have 3 digits in the middle, this will be the factory where the
aircraft was assembled.
>
> Example 2532059 (my airplane) was the 59th aircraft in batch 25. The
320 is the factory in Nanchang.
> It was part of a batch of 80 aircraft built between May and November
of 1969.
>
> In RPAs 2007 spring issue of Red Alert there a list of all serial
number with their dates of manufacture and number of aircraft in that
batch.
>
> If your airplane has a 285 hp HS6A engine in it, it is a CJ-6A. A
CJ-6 has the 260 hp engine. That's the only difference.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lou <ldakos@bigpond.net.au>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 6:10 am
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
>
>
> Adrain
> What information is on the plate riverted on the fire wall it should
have date of manufacture on it.
>
> Lou
>
> On 21/07/2010 4:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
Cooper"<cooperairracing@gmail.com>
> >
> > Hope some one out there can help me.
> > I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that
specifically states the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and
also gives the date of manufacture.
> > Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may
access it.
> > Thanks very much.
> > Adrian Coop Cooper
> >
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6A serial numbers |
Thanks for that, Warren. The data plate has a 6 embossed on it and right
beside the 6 is an unintelligible symbol stamped in a little square box
all
followed by the long serial number. Likely I've only got 260 hp then ?
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
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From: Warren Hill
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
David,
The 260 HP is a Housai HS-6. The 285 HP Housai is a HS-6A.
Warren
On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:17 AM, DAVID STROUD wrote:
Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai engine
would
say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
----- Original Message -----
From: cjpilot710@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
The serial number on you fire wall maybe either 4 digits or 7.
The first 2 digits are the batch number or a group of production
airplanes
The last 2 digits are the airplane number in that batch.
If you have 3 digits in the middle, this will be the factory where
the aircraft was assembled.
Example 2532059 (my airplane) was the 59th aircraft in batch 25.
The 320 is the factory in Nanchang.
It was part of a batch of 80 aircraft built between May and
November of 1969.
In RPAs 2007 spring issue of Red Alert there a list of all serial
number with their dates of manufacture and number of aircraft in that
batch.
If your airplane has a 285 hp HS6A engine in it, it is a CJ-6A. A
CJ-6 has the 260 hp engine. That's the only difference.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: lou <ldakos@bigpond.net.au>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 6:10 am
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
Adrain
What information is on the plate riverted on the fire wall it
should have date of manufacture on it.
Lou
On 21/07/2010 4:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
Cooper"<cooperairracing@gmail.com>
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> Hope some one out there can help me.
> I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that
specifically states the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and
also gives the date of manufacture.
> Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may
access it.
> Thanks very much.
> Adrian Coop Cooper
>
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6A serial numbers |
One of the more experienced CJ-savvy guys may be able to give you
guidance.
On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:43 AM, DAVID STROUD wrote:
> Thanks for that, Warren. The data plate has a 6 embossed on it and
right
> beside the 6 is an unintelligible symbol stamped in a little square
box all
> followed by the long serial number. Likely I've only got 260 hp then ?
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> Fairchild 51 replica
> under construction C-FYXV
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Warren Hill
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
>
> David,
>
> The 260 HP is a Housai HS-6. The 285 HP Housai is a HS-6A.
>
> Warren
>
> On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:17 AM, DAVID STROUD wrote:
>
>> Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai engine would
>> say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.
>>
>> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
>> Christavia C-FDWS
>> Fairchild 51 replica
>> under construction C-FYXV
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: cjpilot710@aol.com
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
>>
>> The serial number on you fire wall maybe either 4 digits or 7.
>>
>> The first 2 digits are the batch number or a group of production
airplanes
>>
>> The last 2 digits are the airplane number in that batch.
>>
>> If you have 3 digits in the middle, this will be the factory where
the aircraft was assembled.
>>
>> Example 2532059 (my airplane) was the 59th aircraft in batch 25. The
320 is the factory in Nanchang.
>> It was part of a batch of 80 aircraft built between May and November
of 1969.
>>
>> In RPAs 2007 spring issue of Red Alert there a list of all serial
number with their dates of manufacture and number of aircraft in that
batch.
>>
>> If your airplane has a 285 hp HS6A engine in it, it is a CJ-6A. A
CJ-6 has the 260 hp engine. That's the only difference.
>>
>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lou <ldakos@bigpond.net.au>
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 6:10 am
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
>>
>>
>> Adrain
>> What information is on the plate riverted on the fire wall it should
have date of manufacture on it.
>>
>> Lou
>>
>> On 21/07/2010 4:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
Cooper"<cooperairracing@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > Hope some one out there can help me.
>> > I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that
specifically states the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and
also gives the date of manufacture.
>> > Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may
access it.
>> > Thanks very much.
>> > Adrian Coop Cooper
>> >
>> > --------
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David;
You probably have an HS6A. The unintelligable symbol is likely Chinese for "A".
Check the carburettor part # : QHQ-14 for the HS6, QHQ-14A for the HS6A (same
symbol ?)
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: DAVID STROUD
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
Thanks for that, Warren. The data plate has a 6 embossed on it and right
beside the 6 is an unintelligible symbol stamped in a little square box all
followed by the long serial number. Likely I've only got 260 hp then ?
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
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To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
David,
The 260 HP is a Housai HS-6. The 285 HP Housai is a HS-6A.
Warren
On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:17 AM, DAVID STROUD wrote:
Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai engine would
say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
The serial number on you fire wall maybe either 4 digits or 7.
The first 2 digits are the batch number or a group of production airplanes
The last 2 digits are the airplane number in that batch.
If you have 3 digits in the middle, this will be the factory where the
aircraft was assembled.
Example 2532059 (my airplane) was the 59th aircraft in batch 25. The 320
is the factory in Nanchang.
It was part of a batch of 80 aircraft built between May and November of
1969.
In RPAs 2007 spring issue of Red Alert there a list of all serial number
with their dates of manufacture and number of aircraft in that batch.
If your airplane has a 285 hp HS6A engine in it, it is a CJ-6A. A CJ-6
has the 260 hp engine. That's the only difference.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: lou <ldakos@bigpond.net.au>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 6:10 am
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
Adrain
What information is on the plate riverted on the fire wall it should have
date of manufacture on it.
Lou
On 21/07/2010 4:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
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> Hope some one out there can help me.
> I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that specifically
states the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and also gives the
date of manufacture.
> Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may access
it.
> Thanks very much.
> Adrian Coop Cooper
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Thank you all for responding.
I needed this to prove to Transport Canada that this was indeed a CJ-6A as all
my Chinese correspondence and papers referred only to the generic CJ-6, and I
need the airplane registered as a CJ-6A.
So a cautionary tale might be to always translate your serial number as explained
by Pappy. Get the manufacturing date off of the Red Alert archives and explain
that the manufacturing date and the 285 hp engine insist that this is therefor
a 6A.
Thanks again.
Coop.
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Another way to tell a HS-6 from a HS-6A is remove a top cylinder rocker bo
x cover. If it has grease in it, its a 260 hp HS-6. If its oiled than it
s a 285 hp HS-6A.
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Coop Cooper <cooperairracing@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 2:07 pm
Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ6A serial numbers
l.com>
Thank you all for responding.
needed this to prove to Transport Canada that this was indeed a CJ-6A as
all
y Chinese correspondence and papers referred only to the generic CJ-6, and
I
eed the airplane registered as a CJ-6A.
o a cautionary tale might be to always translate your serial number as
xplained by Pappy. Get the manufacturing date off of the Red Alert archive
s and
xplain that the manufacturing date and the 285 hp engine insist that this
is
herefor a 6A.
Thanks again.
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'Any plans in the works for any AirVenture mass arrivals??? Please advise. 'Would
LOVE a runway-side seat if I knew they were coming!!
Godspeed everyone!
>>> Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net> 07/21/10 10:23 AM >>>
David,
The 260 HP is a Housai HS-6. The 285 HP Housai is a HS-6A.
Warren
On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:17 AM, DAVID STROUD wrote:
> Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai engine would
> say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> Fairchild 51 replica
> under construction C-FYXV
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: cjpilot710@aol.com
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
>
> The serial number on you fire wall maybe either 4 digits or 7.
>
> The first 2 digits are the batch number or a group of production airplanes
>
> The last 2 digits are the airplane number in that batch.
>
> If you have 3 digits in the middle, this will be the factory where the aircraft
was assembled.
>
> Example 2532059 (my airplane) was the 59th aircraft in batch 25. The 320 is
the factory in Nanchang.
> It was part of a batch of 80 aircraft built between May and November of 1969.
>
> In RPAs 2007 spring issue of Red Alert there a list of all serial number with
their dates of manufacture and number of aircraft in that batch.
>
> If your airplane has a 285 hp HS6A engine in it, it is a CJ-6A. A CJ-6 has the
260 hp engine. That's the only difference.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lou <ldakos@bigpond.net.au>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 6:10 am
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
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> Adrain
> What information is on the plate riverted on the fire wall it should have date
of manufacture on it.
>
> Lou
>
> On 21/07/2010 4:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
> >
> > Hope some one out there can help me.
> > I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that specifically
states the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and also gives the date
of manufacture.
> > Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may access it.
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> > Adrian Coop Cooper
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You have to careful about shipping papers between countries. My airplane
was listed as a Yak 18A on all its customs documentation. Bureaucrats ar
e notorious for making such mistakes. And for a long time I thought it wa
s just a copy of the Russian airplane. But the history and people behind
the design CJ-6 is far more interesting.
I only wish I could find detailed photos of the production line while it
was going full tilt. At one point a CJ-6 was coming off the line every
3 days.
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: CJ6A serial numbers
Another way to tell a HS-6 from a HS-6A is remove a top cylinder rocker bo
x cover. If it has grease in it, its a 260 hp HS-6. If its oiled than it
s a 285 hp HS-6A.
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Coop Cooper <cooperairracing@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 2:07 pm
Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ6A serial numbers
l.com>
Thank you all for responding.
needed this to prove to Transport Canada that this was indeed a CJ-6A as
all
y Chinese correspondence and papers referred only to the generic CJ-6, and
I
eed the airplane registered as a CJ-6A.
o a cautionary tale might be to always translate your serial number as
xplained by Pappy. Get the manufacturing date off of the Red Alert archive
s and
xplain that the manufacturing date and the 285 hp engine insist that this
is
herefor a 6A.
Thanks again.
oop.
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Well as an update I would like post the following.
Due to a lot of support from friends and a very good engineer we managed to replace
the bent rod, on #5
Below is what would consider a safe procedure, any comments? or additions?
I have been thinking a lot about the that fateful day and how the lock occurred
what could have been done to prevent it and what would I do differently?
We here is what I have come to think of good procedure, to prevent this happening
to myself again, and happening to one of you.
Never pull the prop on the end, always pull the prop half way along the blade,
this gives you less leverage and so limits the problem of bending a rod with the
prop. Which I believe is possible.
Always stop when ANY resistance is felt. Do not try and squeeze through the oil.
It is quite possible to squeeze the oil past the rings and so get through a
small lock.....but it HUGELY dangerous. With the leverage you have in your hand
through the prop you could easily damage the connecting rod.
NEVER TRUN THE PROP BACKWARDS!!!!!! This is arguably the most dangerous thing to
do, since it could allow the oil to go up into the intake manifold, ready to
be sucked into the cylinder and cause damage.
So as soon as there is any resistance felt stop turning the prop, and open the
two bottom cylinders,and allow time for the oil to drain, do NOT rush. Once the
oil has stopped draining then you MUST screw the plugs back in!!! Then pull
another full set of blades, I usually pull 16 blades. And if there any resistance,
then you need to stop and remove the plugs again. Allow time for the oil
to drain.....do NOT RUSH.
As soon as you can pull your blades and there is no resistance then you are ready
to fly.
There are options, like and oil shut off valve that allows you to shut the oil
off after you have stopped the engine, and this valve has a switch that will cut
the ignition circuit so you cannot start the engine with out the oil valve
being open. Part of the kit is a oil pump to pump the engine empty. The danger
here is the mounting of the oil valve could damage the oil tank.
It does not take a lot of oil to cause a lock, I have not worked it out but I would
guess that 100 ml will be enough. What ever the accurate figure is, it is
not a lot.
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| Subject: | Re: AirVenture Mass Arrivals |
Right now there are no plans for an RPA mass arrival since we didn't have
any interest in pre OSH activities. Lately we have participated in the
"mass arrival" by simply getting airborne right from OSH, getting into po
sition to join the other groups in bound. That is done on Monday.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Rico Jaeger <rijaeger@wausau.k12.wi.us>
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 3:05 pm
Subject: Yak-List: AirVenture Mass Arrivals
'Any plans in the works for any AirVenture mass arrivals??? Please advise.
Would LOVE a runway-side seat if I knew they were coming!!
Godspeed everyone!
>> Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net> 07/21/10 10:23 AM >>>
avid,
The 260 HP is a Housai HS-6. The 285 HP Housai is a HS-6A.
Warren
On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:17 AM, DAVID STROUD wrote:
> Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai engine would
say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
----- Original Message -----
From: cjpilot710@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
The serial number on you fire wall maybe either 4 digits or 7.
The first 2 digits are the batch number or a group of production airplane
s
The last 2 digits are the airplane number in that batch.
If you have 3 digits in the middle, this will be the factory where the
ircraft was assembled.
Example 2532059 (my airplane) was the 59th aircraft in batch 25. The 320
is
he factory in Nanchang.
It was part of a batch of 80 aircraft built between May and November of
1969.
In RPAs 2007 spring issue of Red Alert there a list of all serial number
with
heir dates of manufacture and number of aircraft in that batch.
If your airplane has a 285 hp HS6A engine in it, it is a CJ-6A. A CJ-6
has
he 260 hp engine. That's the only difference.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: lou <ldakos@bigpond.net.au>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 6:10 am
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
Adrain
What information is on the plate riverted on the fire wall it should have
date
f manufacture on it.
Lou
On 21/07/2010 4:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
ail.com>
> >
> Hope some one out there can help me.
> I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that specifica
lly
tates the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and also gives the da
te of
anufacture.
> Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may access
it.
> Thanks very much.
> Adrian Coop Cooper
>
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :^))
Doc
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Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: CJ6A serial numbers
You have to careful about shipping papers between countries. My airplane
was listed as a Yak 18A on all its customs documentation. Bureaucrats are
notorious for making such mistakes. And for a long time I thought it was
just a copy of the Russian airplane. But the history and people behind the
design CJ-6 is far more interesting.
I only wish I could find detailed photos of the production line while it was
going full tilt. At one point a CJ-6 was coming off the line every 3 days.
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: CJ6A serial numbers
Another way to tell a HS-6 from a HS-6A is remove a top cylinder rocker box
cover. If it has grease in it, its a 260 hp HS-6. If its oiled than its a
285 hp HS-6A.
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Coop Cooper <cooperairracing@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 2:07 pm
Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ6A serial numbers
<cooperairracing@gmail.com>
Thank you all for responding.
I needed this to prove to Transport Canada that this was indeed a CJ-6A as
all
my Chinese correspondence and papers referred only to the generic CJ-6, and
I
need the airplane registered as a CJ-6A.
So a cautionary tale might be to always translate your serial number as
explained by Pappy. Get the manufacturing date off of the Red Alert archives
and
explain that the manufacturing date and the 285 hp engine insist that this
is
therefor a 6A.
Thanks again.
Coop.
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| Subject: | Re: The Hydraulic lock |
If there is an intake drain kit installed in the intake tubes of
cylinders 4,5 and 6 and you turn the prop backwards when you feel the
"stop", you will be opening the intake valve and allowing the oil to run
out of the locked cylinder through the drain kit. No harm will be done
using this technique. But as Francois has stated, DO NOT DO THIS UNLESS
YOU DO HAVE AN INTAKE DRAIN KIT INSTALLED.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Francois Davel
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:43 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: The Hydraulic lock
<fdavel@senninger.com>
Well as an update I would like post the following.
Due to a lot of support from friends and a very good engineer we
managed to replace the bent rod, on #5
Below is what would consider a safe procedure, any comments? or
additions?
I have been thinking a lot about the that fateful day and how the lock
occurred what could have been done to prevent it and what would I do
differently?
We here is what I have come to think of good procedure, to prevent
this happening to myself again, and happening to one of you.
Never pull the prop on the end, always pull the prop half way along
the blade, this gives you less leverage and so limits the problem of
bending a rod with the prop. Which I believe is possible.
Always stop when ANY resistance is felt. Do not try and
=9Csqueeze=9D through the oil. It is quite possible to
=9Csqueeze=9D the oil past the rings and so get through a
small lock.....but it HUGELY dangerous. With the leverage you have in
your hand through the prop you could easily damage the connecting rod.
NEVER TRUN THE PROP BACKWARDS!!!!!! This is arguably the most
dangerous thing to do, since it could allow the oil to go up into the
intake manifold, ready to be sucked into the cylinder and cause damage.
So as soon as there is any resistance felt stop turning the prop, and
open the two bottom cylinders,and allow time for the oil to drain, do
NOT rush. Once the oil has stopped draining then you MUST screw the
plugs back in!!! Then pull another full set of blades, I usually pull 16
blades. And if there any resistance, then you need to stop and remove
the plugs again. Allow time for the oil to drain.....do NOT RUSH.
As soon as you can pull your blades and there is no resistance then
you are ready to fly.
There are options, like and oil shut off valve that allows you to shut
the oil off after you have stopped the engine, and this valve has a
switch that will cut the ignition circuit so you cannot start the engine
with out the oil valve being open. Part of the kit is a oil pump to pump
the engine empty. The danger here is the mounting of the oil valve could
damage the oil tank.
It does not take a lot of oil to cause a lock, I have not worked it
out but I would guess that 100 ml will be enough. What ever the accurate
figure is, it is not a lot.
--------
Round Engines RULE!
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305804#305804
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From: DAVID STROUD
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai engine would
say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
David....look at the cooling fins on the cylinder......next to the
base of the cylinder.......if the last 2 fins are the same size in
diameter, it is a 260 hp. engine. If the last fin is smaller than the
second to the last, it is a 285 hp. engine. P.S. Did you ever find a
mag? I have several damaged ones if it would help. Marcus Bates, Jr.
Austin, Texas US of A
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Thanks to all for the help in my 260/285 hp question. Mine is 285 (
whew....). Also, I've
got a mag coming up to convert to electronic and will offer my findings
when available.
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
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From: Marcus Bates
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
----- Original Message -----
From: DAVID STROUD
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai engine
would
say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
David....look at the cooling fins on the cylinder......next to the
base of the cylinder.......if the last 2 fins are the same size in
diameter, it is a 260 hp. engine. If the last fin is smaller than the
second to the last, it is a 285 hp. engine. P.S. Did you ever find a
mag? I have several damaged ones if it would help. Marcus Bates, Jr.
Austin, Texas US of A
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Also of note a 260 hp cyl should not be used on a 285 hp engine, but the
reverse is OK. This from a Chinese mech. Parts book alludes to this via a
serial/batch number spread but is not very specific.
Doug
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Marcus Bates <mlbjr@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* DAVID STROUD <dstroud@xplornet.com>
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:17 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
>
> Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai engine would
> say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> Fairchild 51 replica
> under construction C-FYXV
>
> David....look at the cooling fins on the cylinder......next to the base of
> the cylinder.......if the last 2 fins are the same size in diameter, it is a
> 260 hp. engine. If the last fin is smaller than the second to the last, it
> is a 285 hp. engine. P.S. Did you ever find a mag? I have several
> damaged ones if it would help. Marcus Bates, Jr. Austin, Texas US of A
>
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>
> *
>
>
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HS6 is 260 hp, HS6A is 285 hp so I have been told.
Doug
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Marcus Bates <mlbjr@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* DAVID STROUD <dstroud@xplornet.com>
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:17 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: CJ6A serial numbers
>
> Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai engine would
> say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> Fairchild 51 replica
> under construction C-FYXV
>
> David....look at the cooling fins on the cylinder......next to the base of
> the cylinder.......if the last 2 fins are the same size in diameter, it is a
> 260 hp. engine. If the last fin is smaller than the second to the last, it
> is a 285 hp. engine. P.S. Did you ever find a mag? I have several
> damaged ones if it would help. Marcus Bates, Jr. Austin, Texas US of A
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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