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Wed 10/13/10


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 04:27 AM - Carb Tuning Aide (Cpayne)
     2. 05:20 AM - Re: Carb Tuning Aide (Eric Wobschall)
     3. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (Roger Kemp M.D.)
     4. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (ssssskippy)
     5. 09:02 AM - Engine failure in a Yak-50 (Richard Goode)
     6. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (pilko2)
     7. 10:06 AM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (Scott Poehlmann)
     8. 10:22 AM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (Larry Pine)
     9. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (pilko2)
    10. 04:37 PM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (Eric Wobschall)
    11. 08:40 PM - Re: Engine failure in a Yak-50 (William Halverson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:27:12 AM PST US
    From: Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com>
    Subject: Carb Tuning Aide
    There is some help for the aspiring carb tuner, I wrote a helpful article on the topic a few years ago and you can find it on the RPA/Store/Manuals page. It's NOT a step-by-step How-To but an explanation of how the tuning inputs work together. Craig Payne


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    Time: 05:20:34 AM PST US
    From: Eric Wobschall <eric@buffaloskyline.com>
    Subject: Re: Carb Tuning Aide
    Craig also wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Infield Fly Rule. On Oct 13, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Cpayne wrote: > > There is some help for the aspiring carb tuner, I wrote a helpful > article on the topic a few years ago and you can find it on the RPA/ > Store/Manuals page. It's NOT a step-by-step How-To but an > explanation of how the tuning inputs work together. > > Craig Payne > >


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    Time: 06:39:29 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50
    Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We can have a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft unprepared terrain. Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk letdown. The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to do...fly the airplane first. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 thanks for sharing this! Nice job!!! -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497


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    Time: 07:02:53 AM PST US
    From: "ssssskippy" <ssssskippy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50
    It seems she was gear up for the belly landing, unfortunately this plane seems to have a bad luck.... http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/factor200414.pdf Olivier -----Message d'origine----- De: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Roger Kemp M.D. Envoy: mercredi 13 octobre 2010 15:37 : yak-list@matronics.com Objet: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We can have a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft unprepared terrain. Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk letdown. The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to do...fly the airplane first. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 thanks for sharing this! Nice job!!! -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497


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    Time: 09:02:31 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Engine failure in a Yak-50
    He actually landed wheels-up, and I am sure that was the best way to do it since a normal landing would, I suspect, have done a lot of damage to the undercarriage mountings etc. In passing we have bought the aircraft, and are now restoring it, and I can say that the damage is remarkably little, although there is a certain amount - even wheels-up - to one of the under carriage mountings in the wing, and, of course, bottom engine cowls; oil cooler; one aileron etc etc. However it is one of the last three 50s that were made (actually for a film) after normal production had stopped. So it is low total time, all mods done, and we will restore it to "as new" condition with long-range wing tanks; 400hp; MTV-9-260 prop etc. Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 <http://www.russianaeros.com> www.russianaeros.com


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    Time: 09:37:16 AM PST US
    From: "pilko2" <pilko2@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50
    And there is previous "bad luck" as per this pic ! kp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ssssskippy Sent: 13 October 2010 15:00 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 It seems she was gear up for the belly landing, unfortunately this plane seems to have a bad luck.... http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/factor200414.pdf Olivier -----Message d'origine----- De-: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Roger Kemp M.D. Envoy=E9-: mercredi 13 octobre 2010 15:37 =C0-: yak-list@matronics.com Objet-: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 --> <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We can have a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft unprepared terrain. Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk letdown. The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to do...fly the airplane first. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 --> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> thanks for sharing this! Nice job!!! -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497 List 7-Day


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    Time: 10:06:11 AM PST US
    From: Scott Poehlmann <scott-p@texas.net>
    Subject: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50
    Ouch! On 10-13-2010 10:34, pilko2 wrote: > And there is previous "bad luck" as per this pic ! > > kp > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ssssskippy > Sent: 13 October 2010 15:00 > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "ssssskippy"<ssssskippy@gmail.com> > > It seems she was gear up for the belly landing, unfortunately this plane > seems to have a bad luck.... http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/factor200414.pdf > > Olivier > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Roger Kemp M.D. > Envoy : mercredi 13 octobre 2010 15:37 > : yak-list@matronics.com > Objet : RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp M.D." > --> <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We can have > a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft unprepared > terrain. > Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk letdown. > The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to > do...fly the airplane first. > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "keithmckinley" > --> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> > > thanks for sharing this! > > Nice job!!! > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497 > > > List > 7-Day > >


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    Time: 10:22:13 AM PST US
    From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50
    That can be buffed out! Larry Pine --- On Wed, 10/13/10, pilko2 <pilko2@btinternet.com> wrote: From: pilko2 <pilko2@btinternet.com> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 And there is previous "bad luck" as per this pic ! kp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ssssskippy Sent: 13 October 2010 15:00 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 It seems she was gear up for the belly landing, unfortunately this plane seems to have a bad luck.... http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/factor200414.pdf Olivier -----Message d'origine----- De-: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Roger Kemp M.D. Envoy=E9-: mercredi 13 octobre 2010 15:37 =C0-: yak-list@matronics.com Objet-: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 --> <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We can have a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft unprepared terrain. Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk letdown. The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to do...fly the airplane first. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 --> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> thanks for sharing this! Nice job!!! -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497 List 7-Day =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 10:40:41 AM PST US
    From: "pilko2" <pilko2@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50
    That's what we did...... and buffed it out to 400hp and a nice new Termikas paint job while we were at it. (I think I'll point out that I was not in the a/c when it mounted the Ford) I'm particularly attached to this aircraft as it was the first tail wheel I ever flew......... come to mention it; its the only tail dragger I've ever flown. I sure do miss it. kp _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Pine Sent: 13 October 2010 18:20 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 That can be buffed out! Larry Pine --- On Wed, 10/13/10, pilko2 <pilko2@btinternet.com> wrote: From: pilko2 <pilko2@btinternet.com> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 And there is previous "bad luck" as per this pic ! kp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <http://us.mc316.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-yak-list-server@mat ronic s.com> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <http://us.mc316.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-yak-list-server@mat ronic s.com> ] On Behalf Of ssssskippy Sent: 13 October 2010 15:00 <http://us.mc316.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=yak-list@matronics.com> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 <http://us.mc316.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ssssskippy@gmail.com> > It seems she was gear up for the belly landing, unfortunately this plane seems to have a bad luck.... http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/factor200414.pdf Olivier -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <http://us.mc316.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-yak-list-server@mat ronic s.com> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <http://us.mc316.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-yak-list-server@mat ronic s.com> ] De la part de Roger Kemp M.D. Envoy=E9 : mercredi 13 octobre 2010 15:37 =C0 : yak-list@matronics.com <http://us.mc316.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=yak-list@matronics.com> Objet : RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 --> <viperdoc@mindspring.com <http://us.mc316.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=viperdoc@mindspring.com> > Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We can have a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft unprepared terrain. Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk letdown. The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to do...fly the airplane first. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <http://us.mc316.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-yak-list-server@mat ronic s.com> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <http://us.mc316.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-yak-list-server@mat ronic s.com> ] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM <http://us.mc316.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=yak-list@matronics.com> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 --> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com <http://us.mc316.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=keith.mckinley@townisp.co m> > thanks for sharing this! Nice job!!! -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497 List 7-Day


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    Time: 04:37:49 PM PST US
    From: Eric Wobschall <eric@buffaloskyline.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50
    I had heard that the main issue was the dig in, flip over, and get yourself crushed thing. But that's the 52. Is that also a worry with the 50? On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Roger Kemp M.D. wrote: > > > > Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We > can have > a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft > unprepared > terrain. > Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk > letdown. > The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to > do...fly the airplane first. > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > keithmckinley > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 > > > > > thanks for sharing this! > > Nice job!!! > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497 > >


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    Time: 08:40:28 PM PST US
    From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net>
    Subject: Re: Engine failure in a Yak-50
    Hmmm .... a bit of a sales pitch, I presume? ;-) But so ... refined .... :-) I just wish I had the money to buy her! Richard now that England has Sharia law courts, can I trade my wife for your YAK-50? She is an executive chef, and a YAK can't cook! William YAK55 +-----Original Message----- +From: Richard Goode [mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com] +Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 08:58 AM +To: yak-list@matronics.com +Subject: Yak-List: Engine failure in a Yak-50 + +He actually landed wheels-up, and I am sure that was the best way to do it +since a normal landing would, I suspect, have done a lot of damage to the +undercarriage mountings etc. + + + +In passing we have bought the aircraft, and are now restoring it, and I can +say that the damage is remarkably little, although there is a certain amount +- even wheels-up - to one of the under carriage mountings in the wing, and, +of course, bottom engine cowls; oil cooler; one aileron etc etc. + + + +However it is one of the last three 50s that were made (actually for a film) +after normal production had stopped. + + + +So it is low total time, all mods done, and we will restore it to "as new" +condition with long-range wing tanks; 400hp; MTV-9-260 prop etc. + + + +Richard Goode Aerobatics +Rhodds Farm +Lyonshall +Herefordshire +HR5 3LW +United Kingdom +Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 +Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 + <http://www.russianaeros.com> www.russianaeros.com + + + +




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